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Oklahoma Senate OKs Violent-Games Bill

CNet is reporting that the Oklahoma Senate unanimously approved a new violent-games bill on Monday that makes it a crime to sell violent video games to children under 18. From the article: "The bill passed 47-0 in the state Senate, but is being held on a motion to reconsider the vote within three legislative days before being sent back to the House to vote on Senate amendments."

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  1. You would think by Kierthos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that after the similar Michigan law was drop-kicked by a Federal judge that the Okies wouldn't even try. I guess there's always that sound-bite they have to go for...

    You know... "We're doing this for the children!"

    What a load of bollocks.

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  2. What do they mean by violent? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This type of thing really pisses me off. Are they going to ban violent sports games like football, boxing and hockey? There is a lot of hitting in those games. Are they going to ban sales of violent rated "T" games? This is just another example of legislators usurping parents' roles. It will be struck down, they're doing it all for show.

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  3. Not much of a solution. by Funkcikle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Making it a crime to sell such games is pointless if one can simply supply a child with them. Say, for example, on the 25th of December after weeks of begging.

    The problem isn't some immoral shopkeep hawking his wares to unsuspecting kiddies whilst twirling his moustache, but the permissive parents at home who mostly don't give a damn if their child is virtually running around with a virtual gun shooting virtual people with virtually aroused sexual organs.

    1. Re:Not much of a solution. by Tim+C · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Speaking as a parent, I'd rather my daughter did it virtually (in moderation, of course), than in reality.

      One of my earliest childhood memories is of being at school during play time, at the age of 5 or 6, running around with a bunch of other kids playing war. We divided into two teams, and ran around miming shooting, stabbing and otherwise killing each other, long before you could do the same on a computer. Great fun.

      Violent video games don't make kids violent; being human makes kids violent. Some are worse than others, and need special care and attention; despite my favouring violent games, films, etc I've never actually been in a fight in my life.

  4. Re:How many times do we have to go through this? by doesitmakeitsick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Correct me if I am wrong, but this law simply restricts minors from purchasing/renting "violent" games without their parents' knowledge. This simply forces the parents to get involved. If a parent doesn't think that the game is too violent, then that parent can simply authorize the purchase (ie: purchase it for the child). This law seems to really be made for parents who don't care to get involved with their child; it simply governs the child when the parents fail to.

  5. Re:Loop hole? by Randolpho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And others would say the exact opposite -- that no video game holds *any* artistic value. Then your loophole would work in the other direction.... banning the sale of all video games to anyone under 18.

    Honestly, I think this may not be a bad idea. I'm a life-long gamer, but I'm also a parent, and I firmly believe that parents should rigidly control what games their children play. Banning the sale of of all video games to minors would help parents in that regard, and may just force the issue with lazy parents, making them go to the store to buy a game for their kid. Maybe even getting them to go together, actually talk to each other for five minutes... yeah, a bill like that might even eventually bring about world peace!

    Heh, who am I kidding?

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  6. Re:Make it a crime? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >Movies and Books/Magazines, on the other hand, have already been restricted

    No, there is no law restricting the sales of movies, books or magazines. It would be unconstitutional, just like this one. Not that this ever stopped a law from being passed or enforced...

  7. Re:Text of the Bill. by Bwerf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmm.. I'm a bit confused, but what does any of the above examples have to do with violence?

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  8. What Part of "Loosely Defined" is hard to grasp? by Rachel+Lucid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem isn't in saying "Okay, these games are violent, we shouldn't be selling 'Game-Name-Here'".

    The problem is that what THESE guys define as violent and in bad taste could range from anything from overly pokey nipples to firing off guns of any type (And when you can include Ratchet and Clank or Final Fantasy VII on a list of banned games with enough legalese...)

  9. Re:Text of the Bill. by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, they are indeed singling out homosexuals, because all of the other standards for sexual conduct described apply equally to homosexuals and heterosexuals alike. It would be entirely possible to read this law to say that two men or two women holding hands is illegal, but a man and a woman is not.

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  10. Re:Then the buyer should just get older by Perseid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bzzt. Wrong. There is no law against a 10 year old going to see an R-Rated movie. There is no law against a 10 year old buying said movie on DVD - unrated version even. There is no law against a 10 year old buying an Emimen album.

    If this law is accepted, it will also be accepted that video games are for some reason a less protected form of speech than other media. I that OK with you? It's not OK with me.

  11. Homosexuality is not a form of sexual conduct by Colonel+Angus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Homosexuality isn't a form of sexual conduct. It's a sexual preference. Anal sex is sexual conduct. Oral sex is sexual conduct. A Dirty Sanchez is sexual (mis)conduct.

    Homosexuality is no more a form of sexual conduct than heterosexuality is, the latter of which appears to be missing.

    That's purely prejudicial to include one and not the other. A homosexual character in a game makes it illegal to sell to minors? Please.

  12. Re:Whats wrong with this? by shadow169 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If your against this bill, then you are probably 12 years old.

    This sounds an awful lot like "If you're not doing anything wrong, you've got nothing to hide"

  13. You don't know what a democracy is by LKM · · Score: 4, Insightful
    In the name of political correctness, values and morality have eroded to appease a few in the minority.

    How in the world is homosexuality immoral?


    Necause the Federal Republic that is the U.S. has been twisted so much, the minority now gets to dictate to the majority. If the U.S. was a true Democracy, then the rule of the majority would speak for itself.

    Unfortunately, you have no clue about what a democracy is. Here's a hint: Democracy does not mean dictatorship of the majority.

    Accepting homosexuality as something normal is not the minority dictating the majority, it's simply the majority showing a bit of respect for the minorty.

    1. Re:You don't know what a democracy is by uberjoe · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Because so many homosexuals engage in pre-marital sex.

      Maybe if we actually allowed them to get married this wouldn't be an issue.

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  14. Re:Whats wrong with this? by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry, I don't believe we need more games filled with whore bashing and cop killing.

    Sorry, I think we do. Why are your desires more important than mine?

    This is a fad I am very happy to see waining, and I applaud any state or country or franchise that attempts to curb the proliferation of this kind of crap.

    You really think the government should step in to stop a fad? Just because you find it distasteful? Do you have any concept of liberty?

    Games can be fun and exciting without being derogatory, racists, sexist, or promoting behaviour that many minors in fact mimicking in real life.

    Yes they can. They can also be fun and exciting WITH being derogatory, racist AND sexist. I'm glad that we have enough room in this society for both.

    If your against this bill, then you are probably 12 years old.

    No, you just have to care about freedom of speech for all.

    Nobody over the age of majority should have to worry or complain about this bill.

    Just because you're not directly affected by an injustice doesn't mean you shouldn't care about it. Remember, all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. When you are the victim of injustice, you will be glad that others care.

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  15. Re:Text of the Bill. by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 3, Insightful
    physical contact with a person's clothed or unclothed . . . buttocks

    So American football is now "sexual conduct"?