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'Cooking' Carbon Nanotubes Like Spaghetti

Roland Piquepaille writes "Scientists from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) have developed a technique to force a variety of enzymes to self-assemble layer-by-layer on carbon nanotubes (CNTs) with the help of noodle-like polymer molecules. In 'A biosensor layered like lasagna,' the researchers say that this technique can be applied to a wide range of applications. In particular, it will be possible to build other biosensors "that react specifically with other biological chemicals, environmental agents or even microbes." Read more for additional details and the most spectacular scientific image of the month."

57 comments

  1. Still very theoretical. by crazyjeremy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Simply put, this MIGHT be big news. Theoretically you could join two carbon nanotubes with different electrical properties to form a diode. This might help Moores law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moores_law for computers keep on track. From the wikipedia link
    Companies are working on using nanotechnology to solve the complex engineering problems involved in producing chips at the 45 nm, 30 nm, and even smaller levels a process that will postpone the industry meeting the limits of Moore's Law.

    Being able to produce Nanotubes in bulk as the article suggests could ultimately let scientists build processors dozens (if not hundreds) of times faster than what we have today.

    1. Re:Still very theoretical. by erbmjw · · Score: 3, Informative
      The article does not suggest that they are building carbon nanotubes in bulk.

      Rather it mentions that this specific team of PNNL scientists are utlizing electrostatic attraction and completely manufactured carbon nanotubes to rapidly construct extremely small, very precise sensors.
      The technique, described in the April Journal of Nanoscience and Nanotechnology, enables enzymes, with the help of a long, noodle-like polymer molecule, to self-assemble layer-by-layer on a single carbon nanotube.
  2. Disease by buswolley · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The important thing might be its ability to detect biological weapons and wild airbourne diseases.

    As our ability to create deadly diseases increases, it is vitally important that our defenses against them increase also.

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    1. Re:Disease by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Really? I bet that this has never crossed anyone's mind until you pointed it out! +5 insightful ...

    2. Re:Disease by rtaylor · · Score: 1

      As our ability to create deadly diseases increases
      Funny, a "spray" of carbon nanotubes into the air (nanotube bomb?) would make for a pretty good weapon. Printer toner and asbestos combined in one convenient package.

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    3. Re:Disease by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Since you don't care about Karma, why did you ask your friend to mod up your ridiculous post?

    4. Re:Disease by buswolley · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I Meant mod down my post, but I didn't write that clearly. Have a good evening.

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    5. Re:Disease by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Tell me. Is there a slashdotte here who has never had this thought? If so then fuck you." You better watch your mouth troll ... Your post was indeed redundant although the guy's response is admittedly a flaimbait. I'd rather see you modded down to oblivion than him though.

    6. Re:Disease by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      You mean, it would allow for fire-safe printouts? :-)

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  3. This kind of reminds me... by Statecraftsman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    of a lint collector. It seems like we're always hearing about technologies that will make better biological sensors. You'd think by now we could pee in a cup to know if we had trace amounts of cancer already. I'm hoping and praying that the next article I read like this says "Nanotube Cancer Bio-sensor Debuts on Amazon" but I'm not holding my breath.

    1. Re:This kind of reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Suffocates*

    2. Re:This kind of reminds me... by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 1

      That non-invasive cancer detector exists now. It's a highly sensitive chemosensor optimized for organic molecules. Successful clinical trials have been happening in the last few years.

      The sensors are commonly called "dogs".

      Matching the sensitivity of a dog's nose is still around the limits of human skill.

    3. Re:This kind of reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try urinating on a dog and see if it detects cancer.

  4. Re:Hammer, Feather, Freefall on the Moon: Revisite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has the hammer revolution come? --;

  5. Re:Hammer, Feather, Freefall on the Moon: Revisite by buswolley · · Score: 1
    But what about time for the hammer being slower relative to the feather?

    I'm not a physicist, just a failed computer scientist who is now enjoying the relaxations of psychology.

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  6. Call me when... by NalosLayor · · Score: 1

    ...they have a technique to make a single walled carbon nanotube of arbitrary length. I mean, I'm sure this is important, but I just want to hear that headline!

    1. Re:Call me when... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll know it's ready when they throw the single walled carbon nanotube of arbitrary length at the ceiling, and it sticks.

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    2. Re:Call me when... by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      LOL. I'm not sure it was intentional, but we wait exactly for that. It would make a good Space Elevator :)

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    3. Re:Call me when... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Heh heh, completely unintentional. =)

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  7. His Noodly Appendages by Winlin · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's like a testament to FSMism. These scientists are probably true believers.

    1. Re:His Noodly Appendages by YeOldeGnurd · · Score: 1

      Dammit! I thought for sure I'd be able to be the first Pastafarian to comment on this story! Yet more evidence of the benevolence of his Noodly Appendage.

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  8. FSM in Nature! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else read this summary and think "The FSM be praised!"?

    http://www.venganza.org/

  9. Pasta Metaphors... by fatjesus · · Score: 1

    How many can you fettuccine into a slashdot post?

  10. Hungry? by triso · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why all the references to food? 'Cooking' Carbon Nanotubes Like Spaghetti. ...with the help of noodle-like polymer molecules. A biosensor layered like lasagna... I am hungry now.

    1. Re:Hungry? by sankyuu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to mention meat buckyballs... and carbonara sauce *drool*

  11. Roland Piquepaille .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    ...is back.

    Damn, I thought they had done something about him. I suppose we'll never be rid of him.

  12. that's-a-spicey meat-a-ball by AndyAndyAndyAndy · · Score: 1

    ...and the stage is set for the mafia nerds to make a comeback.

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  13. Perhaps Not for Electronics by biohack · · Score: 3, Informative

    This particular method has more to do with processing bulk quantities of nanotubes, rather than producing them. The closest connection to advanced electronics applications of NTs, is that selectively coating NTs with polymers and/or biomolecules is considered a promising route for purification and separation between conducting and semiconducting ones (the former are good as connectors, but the latter are needed for diodes and transistors). Selective attachment of a few biomolecules can also be useful for making self-assembling circuits. This particular method, however, produces a rather thick (30-50 nm) coating and not very specific attachment sites for biomolecules, so it lacks the features that would make it useful for electronics applications. The thick polymer layers are also likely to degrade contacts either between NTs or NTs and CMOS devices, which of course will reduce the possible operational frequencies for such hypothetical electronic components. Just a couple of reasons why using thinner polymers and/or biomolecules, such as DNA, to wrap NTs is currently considered as a more promising approach for electronics applications.

    On the other hand, using these coated NTs for biosensors is indeed promising. The requirements for biosensing are significantly different compared to those for electronic components, and having a relatively thick polymer layer, which can be functionalized with many biomolecules, is in fact an advantage.

  14. For a mere $110 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    For a mere $110 you can have your own copy of the paper. That's nuts. Their research was probably funded by us the taxpayers. I'm assuming the journal is refereed and that the referees don't get paid. The $110 goes to support an inefficient publishing model. Maybe science should get with the twenty-first century. Maybe science should become open source - like it used to be.
    (Actually, the idea of Slashdot type moderation for scientific papers intrigues me.)

  15. I noticed that too by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    While its been traditional to charge for papers, 100 bucks for an *abstract* of a theory? Geeh im in the wrong business.

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  16. Warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't try to eat it!

  17. MOD PARENT DOWN by RedNovember · · Score: 0, Troll

    Parent is an often copied troll.

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    1. Re:MOD PARENT DOWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it isn't.

  18. Re:Hammer, Feather, Freefall on the Moon: Revisite by JeanPaulBob · · Score: 1

    That's the subjective time for the hammer, silly. In the absolute, objective frame of reference--mine--time progresses at the same rate for both the hammer and the feather.

    Don't you remember anything from your college physics class? Sheesh! Kids these days.

  19. Another money-making scheme by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 3, Informative
    Is there anything that can be done to divest ourselves of these parasites? This "blog" is simply extracts of text taken from other places, images taken from other places, a referral link charging $110 ! dollars for the abstract of the paper, and then advertisements at the bottom of the blog telling you "how to make money with a blog"!

    Are we really, as a community, this simple-minded to be taken in by pyramid schemes like this?(pyramid in that; look, I am making money with a blog, give me money to tell you how to make money with a blog)

    Please, please, please, pay attention people. We have to be vigilant and not give these scammers even more views/clicks/dollars.

    And isn't this Roland guy the same one that has blatantly defrauded us in the past with similar linkfarm/scam advertisement stories? What is going on here? We need to stand up and take notice of the leeches on our backs and make use of the salt!

    1. Re:Another money-making scheme by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Are we really, as a community, this simple-minded to be taken in by pyramid schemes like this?

      It's not the "community" that selects the stories. It's the editorial staff. They don't care that Roland is a parasite. When they deign to notice comments like this on Roland's stories stuffed with his links to his own "blog", they tend to mod them to invisibility.

    2. Re:Another money-making scheme by mapkinase · · Score: 1

      I thought this is what most bloggers do: provide links, some copy-pastes.

      As for $110 per article - this is common practice of publishers of scientific journals (I have never seen the prices THAT high though, probably depends on the distribution - the wider distribution journals like Nature charge you appr. 3 times less).

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    3. Re:Another money-making scheme by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      I thought this is what most bloggers do: provide links, some copy-pastes.

      So why bother with a blog that is just a rehash of an original article when you can link to the original article? Slashdot submitters and editors already supposedly make extracts and links.

    4. Re:Another money-making scheme by biohack · · Score: 1

      I have not been a regular Slashdot reader for very long, but I already have heard about this guy, so I am not going to defend his specific marketing practices. It also seems that the bad publicity his previous posts have generated is taking a toll in a very effective way, which is bound to be noticed by the editors, namely the lowest number of comments I have seen so far for a science story.

      The 110$ charge for an abstract is not surprising given that JNN is a second-tier journal (impact factor 2) published by a commercial publisher, rather than a scientific society. American Scientific Publishers (NOTE: the site generates errors in FF and Opera) is known for heavy marketing of their journals and charging respectively high prices.

      ASP also tries to tightly control the electronic files for the stuff they publish. For example, I have written a chapter for their ENN and yet I do not have a PDF of the published version, they only provided hardcopy reprints. So ironically enough, looking at extracts of papers from this publisher on a blog (albeit, perhaps not this particular one) may be helpful for some people, as ASP journals are not widely subscribed to by universities and research labs, and sometimes even the authors do not have a PDF that they can circulate.

    5. Re:Another money-making scheme by Danny+Rathjens · · Score: 1

      I was more referring to the open source community than the /. community. I have noticed more and more scams like this in various places, such as phony HOWTOs in the linux documentation project, the "explorer destroyer" project a few articles back promoting unsavory behaviour in the pursuit of google's adsense money under the guise of promoting firefox, random websites proclaiming to be a resource for linux or other open source projects, but in reality just link farms pushing products or services or unnecessary donation requests on people.
      These scum like "Roland" that are socially engineering the /. editors are just one more example; and they are getting smarter and more subtle in their methods of avoiding our notice, so it is even more imperative that we stand up and proclaim that we will not tolerate this behaviour.

  20. Mexican? Oh, how about Italian? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why you don't write press releases right before lunch

  21. "most spectacular scientific image of the month"? by CAlworth1 · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but linking a blog with a label like "most spectacular image of the month" actually had me get my hopes up for a moment. Two notes about this image:

    a.) The 'image' is actually a blog. And not just any blog... we've heard from this guy before, but we don't seem to learn.

    b.) What? I think we need to look up spectacular again. "Sensational or thrilling" this is not...

    I'll help you cut to the chase - the full image is available at http://biomarkers.pnl.gov/media/JNN04.pdf, as is mentioned on said blog. Enjoy... or something

  22. Nice, but... by MadTinfoilHatter · · Score: 0, Redundant

    In tomorrwow's slashdot news:
    Nanotube research set back several years, after janitor mistakes it for canneloni

  23. Science makes me hungry by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    All of a sudden I feel like ordering Italian, not sure why.

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    1. Re:Science makes me hungry by eheldreth · · Score: 1

      You drank to much coffee before you read this story.

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  24. Action plan! by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

    Well, making comments like the above doesn't seem to get through to the editors. But we might make a small impact via the tag feature. Quite a lot of Roland's stories are already tagged "Piquepaille" &/or "Roland". I propose something a little more judgemental: "fuckroland". As I understand it, if enough people tag a story with a particular word it shows up on the home page.

  25. Oh great... by Malakusen · · Score: 1

    Now I'm hungry...

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  26. MOD PARENT UP by lamp540 · · Score: 1

    tsia

  27. Still only "nano"-tubes... by elFisico · · Score: 1

    *sigh*

    I had hope for a short time that they managed to produce nanotubes out of polymer via enzymes. This would have been a significant step towards...

    *tadah*

    TERATUBES!!

    Imagine you could spin nanotubes that are thousands of kilometers long...
    Imagine weaving those teratubes into cables...
    Imagine lowering these cables from orbit and running escalators up and down...
    Imagine using the cables to send down electric power from orbit...
    Imagine the impact on our future society...

    *sigh*
    But of course this is off-topic, so feel free to mod me down... ;-)