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Videogame Remake of 1986's World Series Game 6

Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "Even non-baseball fans must concede that the re-creation of the bottom half of the 10th inning of Game Six of the 1986 World Series, using the original broadcast audio and a replay with Nintendo's RBI Baseball, took enormous dedication. 'Something like the Keith Hernandez at-bat, where he flies out to center, took like 200 attempts,' Creator Conor Lastowka told WSJ.com. Though it wasn't quite as hard as it looks: 'Thanks to the emulator software, each time Mr. Hernandez's at-bat strayed from history's script, Mr. Lastowka was able to replay from the previous at-bat. Using a computer rather than an actual game console like a PlayStation allowed Mr. Lastowka to save his progress along the way. He built his precise Game-Six replica bit by bit -- not in one flawless, improbable take.' Before he made the viral video, Lastowka was jobless; three days after its release, he had a job with a classic-films company."

174 comments

  1. Blah by michaelhood · · Score: 2, Funny

    Using a computer rather than an actual game console like a PlayStation

    Hmm? You mean like a Nintendo?

    And can I get a supersubmitter account like the WSJ has? I have some regurgitated news with ads, too.

    1. Re:Blah by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or an emulator...

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    2. Re:Blah by foundme · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is no supersubmitter account, this article by WSJ probably took like 200 attempts to get accepted. He submitted this well crafted article bit by bit -- not in one flawless, improbable take.

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    3. Re:Blah by michaelhood · · Score: 2, Funny

      So does he have an emulator for Slashdot?

      NESlashdot?

      SlashMAME?

      OK, I'm done.

    4. Re:Blah by Tezkah · · Score: 2, Funny

      There is no supersubmitter account, this article by WSJ probably took like 200 attempts to get accepted. He submitted this well crafted article bit by bit -- not in one flawless, improbable take.

      so what you're saying is we'll be seeing this again in a few days when the other takes get approved as dupes? :)

  2. can anyone read this? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1, Informative

    When I try to RTFA, I get caught in an endless Flash loop that tells me, ironically, that I have free access to the entire site. "Skip intro" just reloads it.

    1. Re:can anyone read this? by Propagandhi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah yes, the chinese finger trap of flash-based splash intros... the harder you try to get past it, the firmer its grip becomes.

      I'm afraid you've most likely "pulled" so hard that you're trapped forever.

    2. Re:can anyone read this? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

      I went to the WSJ top page and searched for TFA, finally read it.

    3. Re:can anyone read this? by Propagandhi · · Score: 1

      Mmm.. excellent, most buckle under the strain, allowing the little beast consume them totally.

      Well played, sir.. Well played.

    4. Re:can anyone read this? by Firehed · · Score: 1

      Finger traps don't have a close button, though.

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    5. Re:can anyone read this? by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Finger traps don't have a close button, though.

      More like a monkey-trap: some food inside a hole in a tree trunk. The hole is just small enough for the monkey to slide its hand in, but if it grabs the food it can't pull its fist out. So you can escape if you give up what you were looking for.

    6. Re:can anyone read this? by cheese-cube · · Score: 0

      That sounds terrifying. Advertisement purgatory.

    7. Re:can anyone read this? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Also known as the 'Homer Simpson Vending-Machine Trap'.

  3. I believe I speak for Red Sox Fans everywhere... by jpellino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    .. when I say to Conor Lastowka,

    Go kiss a duck.

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  4. Direct link to WMV by tonsofpcs · · Score: 1

    Ah, a direct link to a WMV3 w/ WMA2 audio. Very nice. Anyone want to give me a link that I can actually play?

    1. Re:Direct link to WMV by ZiakII · · Score: 1
      Ah, a direct link to a WMV3 w/ WMA2 audio. Very nice. Anyone want to give me a link that I can actually play?


      http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
    2. Re:Direct link to WMV by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm impressed with duffx.com, whatever it is. I just downloaded this at almost 700KB/s. Yeah, bytes.

      Did you just make that comment without even trying the link?

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    3. Re:Direct link to WMV by MelloDawg · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this is any better, but at least Google has more bandwidth:

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8547285560 243429315

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    4. Re:Direct link to WMV by heinousjay · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Suppose you were to crack yourself in the knees with a hammer. Should I take your complaints of pain seriously?

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    5. Re:Direct link to WMV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where do you see WMV3 support? WMV v8 is WMV2.

    6. Re:Direct link to WMV by mrchaotica · · Score: 0

      The issue is format, not bandwidth. Some of us don't use Microsoft's shit, you know!

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    7. Re:Direct link to WMV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used Media Player Classic on Windows. Now don't tell me you are using Linux. LOL!!!!!!

    8. Re:Direct link to WMV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you just post that without reading the GP? He's complaining about the compression algorithm, not the bandwidth. Obviously he downloaded it if he knows the fourcc.

    9. Re:Direct link to WMV by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Microsoft makes Totem?

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  5. RBI Baseball by MBCook · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I always loved that game. It was very tough (or I was terrible, quite possible). But I just loved the way the little guys looked, all round and fat. It was my favorite baseball game for the NES. In the later versions, they "fixed" the people and they looked better but I always liked the original.

    Baseball for the Game Boy looked almost identical, I always wondered if they were somehow "related" (like it was just published under Nintendo). Anyone know?

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    1. Re:RBI Baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      you should check out gantry's rbi page for everything rbi... like the drinking game, roms with current rosters, and a forum with hundreds of members. go pedriq!

    2. Re:RBI Baseball by DeeKayWon · · Score: 1

      I always figured there were several games that were related and possibly from the same codebase licensed to different companies. I have a Game Boy baseball game from Bandai called Extra Bases that has very similar mechanics, visuals, and sound effects - the "you're out" sound, for instance, is identical to that in RBI Baseball.

      The biggest indication to me is a certain gameplay bug that shows up in several games (Baseball Simulator 1.000 is another). If the ball is in play, you have runners on first and third, and the catcher has the ball, the runner on first can run for second and the catcher won't do anything.

    3. Re:RBI Baseball by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      it wasn't so tough once you realized that you could run from one base to the next faster than they can make a throw between two bases, so you could extend any single to be an inside-the-park homerun.

      the thing that struck me most about this recreation is how deadeningly slow they had to go, with huge pauses between pitches to simulate the real thing. maybe that's why real baseball is so excruciating to watch

    4. Re:RBI Baseball by nugneant · · Score: 1

      That's not a bug. Bugs are unintentional, and in the games you mentioned, a throw from home to 2nd would go so slow that the runner on 3rd could score easily.

      That said, this is one of those things I love about 8/16bit baseball. I'll admit that I check this on every new game I play. And I've gotten quite good at scoring wtih runners on first and third, just by initiating a double-rundown.

  6. Warning to Red Sox fans... by mrbrown1602 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is like reliving a horrible, traumatic experience all over again.

    1. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Yeah...I thought I had it down to just the few minutes during my after-lunch food coma...now it's showing up on /. in the middle of the night...

    2. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How were the Yankees far more deserving? Nobody is deserving of anything when they can't even close it out with a 3-0 series lead. Funny that the only team to ever lose a 7-game series after leading 3-0 is Steinbrenner and the Yankees with their $200mil payroll.

      PS - I am not a Red Sox fan whatsoever, but I definitely don't like the Yankees :-)

    3. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by tylernt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, this thing is every bit as boring as the real game.

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    4. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by moosesocks · · Score: 1
      This is like reliving a horrible, traumatic experience all over again.


      But that's what being a sox fan's all about..... horrible......traumatic experiences.

      Heck, after we won the World Series for the first time in 86 years, not knowing what else to do we rioted anyway.
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    5. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by hole725 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even though I am a Red Sox fan, I enjoy dark humor. On a related note, why doesn't this guy remake the 2003 collapse of the Red Sox in the 8th inning of Game 7 of the ALCS? Or better yet, the A. Rod slap in Game 6 of the 2004 ALCS....I'm sure RBI could depict something so hilarious fairly well.

    6. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by pthisis · · Score: 1

      This is like reliving a horrible, traumatic experience all over again.

      Watching this in 2003 HURT. Watching it now is a vaguely unsettling reminder of a darker time.

      Big Papi, G38, Foulke, Pedro, David Freaking Roberts, Saturn Balls, Manny being Manny, Bellhorn, the Pro, Tek, Trot, Jesus, the Stud Who Hits Bombs, the OC, Timmeh, Timlin, Halloween, Embree, D-Lowe, Curtis the Mechanic, Eyechart, the Embedded Yankee, Buckethead, and the World's Hottest Jew have set us free.

      Bucky Dent, Grady Little, and Bill Buckner have no power over us any more.

      We're just regular sports fans now, which is exactly what we always wanted to be.

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    7. Re:Warning to Red Sox fans... by UnCivil+Liberty · · Score: 1

      It doesn't hurt half as much as it used to after 2004. Recreations of Bucky fucking Dent or Pesky holding the ball in '46 might still hurt a bit though.

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  7. Dirrect Link to Video... by ZiakII · · Score: 0, Redundant
    1. Re:Dirrect Link to Video... by thepotoo · · Score: 1
      You do realize that that was linked in the summary, yes?

      Anyway, in case of slashdotting, here's a rapidshare downloadable (better than google video) mirror

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  8. ...it gets through Buckner! by Somatic · · Score: 2, Interesting
    And people said that the popular obsession with the Red Sox would end after they won a world series.

    I have to admit, it did cool my obsession a little bit. I don't hang on to the idea of a World Series win with the same... what's the word... desperation? I don't do that anymore.

    But I think that now, the obsession for most people is still there, it's just changed. It's like people who love the old Commodore 64 games, or old anything. It's a club now, people remembering when-- just like people recreating text based games. I thought I'd be annoyed with it, but it's actually feeling cooler every year, not the other thing.

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  9. Google video link by thepotoo · · Score: 3, Informative
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8547285560 243429315&q=RBI+baseball&pl=true

    A quick google search would have done as much try "rbi game 6"

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    1. Re:Google video link by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Thanks for your interest in Google Video.

      Currently, the playback feature of Google Video isn't available in your country.

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    2. Re:Google video link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  10. Side-By-Side by Flame0001 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Without having seen this World Series, a side-by-side of the actual thing and this recreation would be nice. He did, after all, try his best to mimic the real thing.

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    1. Re:Side-By-Side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely unable to find original footage of this game, I would also love a side-by-side or a link to this part of the game.

      Surely this stuff is out of copyright 20 years later? Link please!

  11. ObSeinRef by mstra · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who does this guy think he is?

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    1. Re:ObSeinRef by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

      I'm Keith Hernandez. You insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:ObSeinRef by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      I'm not driving him to the airport!

      (For the clueless, it's a reference to the season three episode "The Boyfriend".)

    3. Re:ObSeinRef by kahanamoku · · Score: 1

      No!... I am Spartacus!

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    4. Re:ObSeinRef by gowen · · Score: 1

      I'm Keith Hernandez, 1979 National League MVP.

      (There was no second spitter, that was one magic loogie).

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  12. Video clips on YouTube by antdude · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here and here.

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  13. Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Insightful
    From TFA: "Emulators, which are widely available free online, allow any computer to run the programming of older consoles like the Nintendo Entertainment System. Combined with a pirated online version of the game called a ROM, a normal PC can duplicate the Nintendo experience. Mr. Lastowka spent about six hours recreating the bottom of the 10th..."

    And nothing but praise in TFA for his ingenuity. Fine, so why are other people being threatened with enormous fines for doing exactly the same thing? Interesting to see if there is any fallout from that detail.

    1. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by omeomi · · Score: 1

      Combined with a pirated online version of the game called a ROM, a normal PC can duplicate the Nintendo experience. Mr. Lastowka spent about six hours recreating the bottom of the 10th..."

      Well, the article never explicity says that Mr. Lastowka used a pirated ROM. Maybe he made his own ROM from the original Nintendo cart. Unlikely, I know, but it is possible, and legal.

    2. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the NL, tho. DOesn't this break their "no rebroadcast, re-enactment, blah blah blah" stuff?

    3. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by CerebusUS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention the use of audio from the broadcast without (I'm assuming) the express written consent of Major League Baseball (I always like that line best when it was spoken by Al Michaels)

      There's a ton of copyright violations going on here, but anyone who sues over it will look like a major douchebag.

    4. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the use of audio from the broadcast without (I'm assuming) the express written consent of Major League Baseball (I always like that line best when it was spoken by Al Michaels) There's a ton of copyright violations going on here, but anyone who sues over it will look like a major douchebag.

      This is one of those situations where having copyright law be like trademark law, where you actually have to enforce your rights in order to keep them... would be really interesting, and would lead eventually to major overhauls in law....

      Granted, those changes would probably be so you can use selective enforcement... doh.

    5. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      Granted, those changes would probably be so you can use selective enforcement... doh.

      Doh indeed. As it stands, copyright law does allow selective enforcement; unlike trademark law you're not obligated to defend your copyright. However, I imagine that while you could shut down anyone abusing your copyright, if you had been liberal in allowing abuse you might have a hard time collecting much compensation.

    6. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but anyone who sues over it will look like a major douchebag

      That's most lawyers, ya know.

    7. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by AdamBomb8705 · · Score: 1

      ROMs are not necessarily pirated. As long as you own the original medium (cartridge, disk, CD, whatever), it's legal to have them as a backup copy, same as if you had copied the physical medium. I think it's a bad sign if the popular opinion is that all ROMs are, by definition, illegal.

    8. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Pigeon451 · · Score: 1

      Owning roms is a very grey area. Owning the original does NOT entitle you to own the rom, regardless of what people say. If you actually dump it yourself, it may be ok. It still doesn't stop a company from suing you however. The main thing is no one will go after you, it being so old and not worth the time or money to do so, so it's considered "ok".

    9. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by tepples · · Score: 1

      As long as you own the original medium (cartridge, disk, CD, whatever), it's legal to have them as a backup copy, same as if you had copied the physical medium.

      If what you say is true, then the my.mp3.com case would have gone the other way. You have to have made that backup copy yourself using a dumper device.

    10. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by pdscomp · · Score: 1

      ROMS are completely legal provided that you have a copy of the game you are playing the ROM for. I would bet that this guy probably has a copy of all of the RBI Baseball games for NES. I know I do!

    11. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      IANAL, but wouldn't using the (bit of) commentary fall under fair use?

      And if the guy own the original cartridge, I can't see any problem, as then he would be allowed to play the rom on an emulator?

    12. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      the popular opinion is that all ROMs are, by definition, illegal

      "Popular opinion?" Maybe 1% of the population knows what a ROM is. The WSJ stated they were pirated, and thus illegal, as if it were a fact. Personally I agree with you; however it seems odd that the WSJ (a rather staid, very pro-business newspaper) was implicitly endorsing what it said was an illegal act.

    13. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Kumiorava · · Score: 1

      There is one unexplored way to go around this problem. The companies and organizations involved in the issue should/could allow this particular piece of work. That would save them from the uncertain future of not reacting and also let the gy off the hook and issue specific guidelines how to behave with the content he used. IP owners don't need to be always suing.

    14. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by ragefan · · Score: 1
      There's a ton of copyright violations going on here, but anyone who sues over it will look like a major douchebag.

      I'm sure this would be considered a fair use, due to being parody in nature

    15. Re:Piracy? DMCA? No problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > There's a ton of copyright violations going on here, but anyone who sues over it will look like a major douchebag.

      Umm, we're talking about the ESA & MLB here... :)

      According to MLB, I can't even tell someone the score of a ballgame I went to and they think they have all ballplayer stats copyrighted, etc.

      DISCLAIMER: Speaking of which, the ESA, MLB, the words 'ballgame', 'score', and 'douchebag' as well as other stuff I don't know about may well be copyrighted, trademark, trade secrets of, joint operations with the Co$ (which is also trademarked, copyrighted, whatever, etc.), or otherwise pwn3d by any of those corporate entities. Please don't sue me!

  14. Buahaha by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the About page of duffx.com:

    Duffx.com will live on until it reaches the point where Duff can no longer afford to support it.

    Anyone want to start a pool on this one?

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    1. Re:Buahaha by datafr0g · · Score: 1

      Duffman says, hey - you may think that, but it's not the duff way!
      You need some of Duffman's Duff Beer for that duff logic effect!

      ooooooh yeah!

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  15. Re:I believe I speak for Red Sox Fans everywhere.. by onwardknave · · Score: 1

    I was going to say a blender, but I guess a duck works, in a way that would provide a lasting odd mental scarring value.

  16. Re:I believe I speak for Red Sox Fans everywhere.. by TCQuad · · Score: 1

    Go kiss a duck.

    Actually, given that Red Sox fans (myself included) are everywhere, the best advice would simply be "Duck."

  17. Buckner by drDugan · · Score: 1

    Buckner: a name that will live in infamy through to the end of human consciousness due to the tireless and (sometimes unbelievable) sports history fanatics!

    How these these people love sports details so much is beyond me.

    1. Re:Buckner by climbon321 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ya man, I'm all with you on being judemental about those sports fanatics. I mean it's a good thing you didn't post that on a website full of people who obssess over details about things that would be seen by other people as weird.

    2. Re:Buckner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...especially for a game like Rounders.

    3. Re:Buckner by saltydogdesign · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Buckner got a bad rap. The game was shot when Stanley threw the wild pitch. The Sox squandered a two-run lead in extra innings at field where they didn't have home-field advantage -- always a good recipe for a loss. Buckner, after all, didn't give up the three hits and two runs that got the Sox in that situation to begin with.

      Moreover, most people don't remember how much Buckner did to help the Sox make the postseason in the first place.

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    4. Re:Buckner by UnCivil+Liberty · · Score: 1

      Not to mention Stanley didn't even cover first, even if Buckner had fielded it the runner still would have been safe and the inning would have continued with runners on first and third.

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    5. Re:Buckner by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      Quite true. Plus, it's not like the Sox didn't have their chances in game 7.

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  18. Some people... by RickBauls · · Score: 0, Redundant

    have WAAAYY too much time on their hands.

    1. Re:Some people... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Funny

      "have WAAAYY too much time on their hand"

      "I just figured I'd wander into the comments area and tell everybody that these people had too much time on their hands."

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    2. Re:Some people... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      I love when people post anonymously to defend themselves. Not to mention the big enormous flaws in their argument.

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  19. for comparison by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 0

    i found the winning play on youtube here. interesting. i didn't watch the original broadcast, so the RBI version was the first i'd seen it :P

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  20. This is old, old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gothamist ran this story weeks ago, and by the time Gothamist picks it up, it's over. You nerds aren't exactly the quickest bunch, are you?

  21. the recreation most baseball fans are waiting for by rifftide · · Score: 4, Informative
    is Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS. As I remember it:

    "He walked him, Millar's going to first base, and in comes Dave Roberts to run for Millar as Bill Mueller steps in the batter's box. The Yankees are just three outs away from a trip to the World Series and a sweep of the Red Sox. Roberts definitely has Rivera's attention, he's drawing a lot of looks from the mound. There's a throw over, runner back. Another throw over, runner back. Here's the pitch.

    Roberts is taking off...."

  22. Seinfeld by CharAznable · · Score: 1

    How about a recreation of the Keith Hernandez spitting incident?

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    1. Re:Seinfeld by Physician · · Score: 1

      As you may recall, Keith Hernandez was not the one who did the spitting.

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    2. Re:Seinfeld by corrosive_nf · · Score: 1

      Id love to see Nolan Ryan beaning Robin Ventura, who then charged the mound to get his ass kicked, recreated.

  23. I saw this game 20 years ago.... by BulletMagnet · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I have to admit, it's pretty damned entertaining with what he did (being from NY and watching the Red Sox even lose virtually in a 20 year old game brings a smile to my face)

    Hats off it if scored him a job....

  24. Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by Rhett · · Score: 1

    The one thing that people remember about this game was not re-created in the video game. So basically, this is just a big waste of time for everyone involved.

    1. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by TheCage · · Score: 2, Insightful

      huh? The guy got a job out of it, so it was hardly a waste of time.

      I was entertained as well, so your argument fails on that count as well. There is more to that inning than the ball through Buckner's legs. I doubt that animation existed in the game anyway.

    2. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by bxbaser · · Score: 1

      Unfortuanatly for red sox fans that was the game, the whole game. a collective groan from boston was heard as far away as portland maine. The buckner incident is forever etched into sox fans memory. "Buckner terrors" is the medical term for screaming in your sleep, there are support groups for the famlies of sox fans. buckner wives as they are called meet together for support and to try to understand how thier husband can cry daily 20 years later.

      All joking aside its pretty sad when the most repeated phrase from a sox fan was "I just want to see them win one before I die" and many fans went thier whole lives and where denied just that.

    3. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by bxbaser · · Score: 1

      If you care that much about about grown men playing a fricking game you need to never reproduce ever, please. Get a life already

      HAHA what a tool your replying to it.

    4. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by Tickenest · · Score: 1

      Given that millions of people in the US and billions of people worldwide care about games played by grown men, I'd say that with an attitude like that, you're not one of the in crowd, eh?

      gg

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    5. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      I disagree. Most Sox fans I know (and having lived in Boston for a long time, I know many) have terrors over the Stanley wild pitch (which was really what cost them the game). Buckner gets a lot of slack in New England. It's mainly the rest of the country that harps on that play.

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    6. Re:Ball doesn't go through Buckner's legs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that is why Buckner won't even vistit Boston?

  25. it wont be long until.. by LOTHAR,+of+the+Hill · · Score: 1

    We see this real time in sports games, for instant replays or "what if" scenarios.

    1. Re:it wont be long until.. by tighr · · Score: 1

      [It wont be long until...] We see this real time in sports games, for instant replays or "what if" scenarios.

      We already see that on ESPN, when they do the Maddden NFL replays of key moments in football games. They use the replay abilities of the video game to manipulate the camera angle.

    2. Re:it wont be long until.. by Footix · · Score: 1

      WWE sort of does this sometimes. Before a big match they'll show that match in one of their video games - "After the break, John Cena faces Triple H - maybe it'll be something like this..." (clip of Cena being Pedigreed in video game)

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  26. first base, second base, third base and home plate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All your base are belong to the Mets.

  27. How Cruel by Physician · · Score: 1

    Though I was a youngin living in Massachusetts at the time, the game being remade here is still very painful. Did they think of consulting Red Sox fans first? I may need to go see a counselor. Of all the totally insensitive things to do...

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  28. even...must agree... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 1

    Ever notice that when you see the statement even [...] must agree..., it is always followed by a bald-faced assertion that everyone is never going to agree on?

    If you find yourself making this statement, maybe you should just stop right there and rethink what you are about to say.

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  29. for more classic nintendo videos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  30. For his next project... by Lord+Aurora · · Score: 4, Funny
    Do you think he could re-create my first date?

    In GTA: Vice City?

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    1. Re:For his next project... by Fex303 · · Score: 1

      So... Your first dates end with cops chasing you too, huh?

    2. Re:For his next project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think hiring a prostitute and then killing her to get your money back counts as a first date...

    3. Re:For his next project... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      "Bitch pressing charges? I get that all the time."

    4. Re:For his next project... by Loco3KGT · · Score: 1

      did it involve a hooker and subsequently running her over to get your money back?

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    5. Re:For his next project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it you didn't get any hot coffe? //Vaccuum

  31. Anodyne link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    From the WSJ article:
    Unfortunately, Mr. Lastowka neglected to click an anodyne link at the bottom of the page marked "rules and regulations,"

    Did anybody else not understand what an "anodyne link" is? As an adjective, anodyne means "capable of relieving pain".

    Can somebody clue me in here as to what that could possibly mean?

    dom

    1. Re:Anodyne link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must've been written by a French-speaker confused by a false friend. In French, anodin means something like "unobvious because it is so ordinary".

    2. Re:Anodyne link? by Seven+Sided+Snowflak · · Score: 1

      >> Did anybody else not understand what an "anodyne link" is? As an adjective, anodyne means "capable of relieving pain". Game 6 of the 1986 World Series? I grew up in Boston, and trust me, it should be "reLIVing pain."

    3. Re:Anodyne link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Anodyne link? by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      I don't know what dictionary you're looking at. That's the noun definition. The adjective is "not likely to provoke dissent or offense; uncontentious or inoffensive, often deliberately so."

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  32. Er, Why? by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    What about this causes Red Sox fans ill-will?

    1. Re:Er, Why? by corrosive_nf · · Score: 1

      One man. Bill Buckner. Dont ask them about it or they start sobbing.

    2. Re:Er, Why? by ElvenMonkey · · Score: 2, Informative
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  33. Re:Let me be the first to ask... by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because he wanted to? Why do so many people write different versions of basically the same program on their own time?

    Besides, it got him a job, didn't it?

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  34. I don't know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it's just not cricket.

  35. Just STOP already! by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 4, Funny

    This was the single most painful event in the long Red Sox win drought. I was watching that day, and a simple fielding error by Bill Buckner, his failure to stop a ball hit between his legs, seemed to cause the Red Sox to lose their spirit, and go on to lose that game AND the next one to lose the Series.

    It RUINED Buckner's life, although the rest of the team bore responsibility too, for not fighting back. Eventually Buckner had to move from Boston, because of abuse by fans, and then to Canada, to try to escape the taunts he heard every day.

    But one day, it became too much for him, and suicide seemed to be his only option. On a street in downtown Toronto, he stepped in front of a bus.

    It went through his legs.

    1. Re:Just STOP already! by flynns · · Score: 1

      Thank you, sir. You made me double over in laughter.
       
      /15 year Atlanta Braves fan
      // ...how many World Series titles?
      ///sonofaslashie, I'm on the wrong website!

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    2. Re:Just STOP already! by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      That's horseshit. I lived in Boston for nearly ten years, and Buckner was a frequent guest on tv and radio sports programs. Sox fans recognize he wasn't the only one responsible for that loss. Schiraldi and Stanley get the bulk of the blame (as they deserved) -- it's primarily the rest of the world that improperly place it on Buckner.

      Moreover, Buckner didn't leave Boston because of abuse. He left because he was traded to the Angels. He wasn't even *from* Boston. And he moved to Idaho when he retired, not Canada.

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    3. Re:Just STOP already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be from Boston since that's a rework of an OOOOLD Gerry Cheevers (Boston Bruins Goalie from the mid-late 70's) joke.

    4. Re:Just STOP already! by MrWa · · Score: 1

      Maybe one day we will see a recreation Steve Bartman ruining the World Series dreams of all Cubs fans.

  36. And THIS is why... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

    ...we need to defend Fair Use!

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  37. Re:Home page worthy? by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Funny

    Commander Taco, this is Echo 4. We have Soxfan-sign. Repeat, we have Soxfan-sign.

  38. How about the kennedy assacination by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    In unreal tournament. HEADSHOT!!!

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    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  39. Oh. by Jacques+Chester · · Score: 1

    Well that was a spectacular waste of a few minutes of my life.

    I'm glad that Slashdot is here to forward every lame video - now I don't need email.

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  40. Simple answer by Atario · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because there's no such thing as the Old Video Games That Don't Generate Incomes For Our Member Companies Anymore Association Of America to buy off our governmental representatives and sue random citizens.

    I would have thought that was obvious...

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  41. He didn't even get it right by mollusk · · Score: 1

    At 314 seconds into the video, the audio says "...Kevin Mitchell at 3rd, Gary Carter at 2nd..." when the video clearly shows the runners at 1st and 2nd.

    With such an obvious error as that, I guess we have a new definition of "precise".

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    1. Re:He didn't even get it right by Tickenest · · Score: 1

      No, he says, "Mitchell at 1st". The video's right.

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      This is the NFL, which stands for "Not For Long" if you keep making those bulls*** calls.
  42. Re:Let me be the first to ask... by gbobeck · · Score: 1

    Because.

    This sounds like a case of a "hobby gone obsession gone job" to me. It most likely started as "Hey, I think it would be cool if..." and then after countless hours, became the finished product and a job.

    Now that I think of it, I should do a full scale rendition of the NHL 2005 Playoffs in Lego.

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  43. well... by illuminatedwax · · Score: 1

    He wanted to do a recreation of the downfall of the 1969 Cubs, but couldn't figure out how to get a black cat into RBI Baseball.

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  44. As long as it's not the Red Sox by ishmalius · · Score: 1

    They have been boo-hooing and whining way too long. Get over it. You mistreated the Babe, thus you deserve it.

  45. Pay a visit to imdb.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and take a look at the goofs section. A lot of movie makers don't always get things right.

  46. "Even non-baseball fans must concede"? by imsabbel · · Score: 1

    Well, i for my part didnt even feel the motivation to click on that link.
    The description just sounded so... baseball-like. (yawn)

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    1. Re:"Even non-baseball fans must concede"? by saltydogdesign · · Score: 1

      Well, i for my part didnt even feel the motivation to click on that link.

      But somehow you found the motivation to do something far more time-consuming: bitch about it.
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  47. World series ? by Builder · · Score: 0, Troll

    Which countries were competing ?

    1. Re:World series ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, some people just get sick of hearing shit like that. If your country wants to call something the "World Series", they can do it too.

      Stop whining.

    2. Re:World series ? by CComMack · · Score: 1

      The Civilized World vs. Red Sox Nation

      Yeah, I've got karma to burn, why do you ask?

  48. WMV - Weaksauce by Whatsisname · · Score: 0

    Its dissapointing that something would be posted to slashdot in a secret proprietary video format.

  49. I loved the way the video... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    caught the reactions on the player's faces perfectly. :)

    With the exception of Red Sox fans, I thought the video was very clever.

  50. Laches by tepples · · Score: 1

    I imagine that while you could shut down anyone abusing your copyright, if you had been liberal in allowing abuse you might have a hard time collecting much compensation.

    You're right, to a point. Laches and other sorts of estoppel could come into play if a copyright owner delays legal action.

  51. Re:Copyright violation on so many levels its funny by Jozxyqk · · Score: 1

    What is the NBA doing with MLB audio?

  52. The ESA by tepples · · Score: 1

    Because there's no such thing as the Old Video Games That Don't Generate Incomes For Our Member Companies Anymore Association Of America

    O rly?

  53. Re:Let me be the first to ask... by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

    Um, there were no NHL playoffs in 2005. The '04-'05 season was cancelled because of the lockout.

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  54. What's next? A Steve Bartman replay? by plorqk · · Score: 1

    if you want to dig up bad memories, how about that one?

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  55. We don't sob .... by ipjohnson · · Score: 1

    We usually kick the douchebag in the genitals and move on with our day .... Mass. has inacted a law where we can violate moron's civil liberties if they mention Bucky F*ckin' Dent,Arrone Boone, and of course Bill Buckner.

  56. Re:Let me be the first to ask... by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 0

    "If you must ask why, you will never understand the answer."

  57. Re:Home page worthy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez, asshole...

  58. I still got the tapes ... by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1


    from those memorable seventh through last innings.
    Recorded from AFRTS TV, with Vin Scully and Joe
    Garaciola.


    BJ
    The Netherlands


  59. Re:Let me be the first to ask... by Infamous+Tim · · Score: 1

    *whooosh* goes the joke sailing over your head.

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  60. Implied oral consent... by PhYrE2k2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But it's all about rebroadcasting with only the implied oral consent rather than the expressed written... talk about living on the edge.

    -M

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  61. A (new?) idea? by ksheka · · Score: 1

    I've had this idea mulling in my head for a few months:

    1. Take the soundtrack for an old sci-fi movie. Recreate the movie only on computer, with modern computer effects.

    Either:

    2. Release the video of the movie, with instructions that it should be played with the sound from the original film

    or

    2. Include with the video an application that will rip the sound from the original DVD, to create a new DVD.

    Since you are technically not infringing on the copyright of the movie, you should get some interesting results.

    Extra points if you:
    1. Manage to make the video change the theme of the movie without changing the soundtrack.

    2. Create an application to rip and resequence the audio track from one or more movies to create a new audio track.

    Should I patent this? Probably.

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    1. Re:A (new?) idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ince you are technically not infringing on the copyright of the movie,...

      You are - you're creating a derivative work. Only the original creator has the right to do that, or license you to do that.

      IANAL, but if you did what you're describing you'd need one.

  62. got a JOB from making that video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wait wait wait...

    HE GOT A JOB making this? it's 8 minutes long, inaccurate, and he got a JOB?

    geez, you mean i could be doing work for film companies by poorly editing together old sports audio to emulated recordings of NES games?

    sign me up. :P

    1. Re:got a JOB from making that video? by AdamTrace · · Score: 1

      I think you underestimate how much time/work/dedication it takes to COMPLETE such a project... He clearly shows gumption and a can-do attitude. I think he deserves a job.

  63. Redemption for Mr. Lastowka is possible... by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

    If he recreates the entire 2004 ALCS playoffs vs. the Yankees. To make this daunting task a little easier, we would settle for games 4,5,6, and 7.

    Buckner's error in 1986 was just management stupidity, the guy was in the lineup for his bat, not his glove. Since that time, many teams have gone so far as to have a defensive specialist first basement who is on the roster for the sole purpose of playing the field late in the game.

    1. Re:Redemption for Mr. Lastowka is possible... by djp928 · · Score: 1
      Since that time, many teams have gone so far as to have a defensive specialist first basement who is on the roster for the sole purpose of playing the field late in the game.


      The 86 Red Sox had such a player, though. His name was Steve Sax. He came in as a late inning defensive replacement for Buckner in every one of Boston's post season victories that year. He wasn't in Game 6 because McNamara (Red Sox manager at the time) wanted Buckner to be on the field to "enjoy the celebration". Of course, we know he never got to do that.


      I'm not bitter though. Not anymore. 2004 erased all those sour memories. I can watch that RBI Baseball recreation and laugh now, whereas just hearing Vin Scully's call of the Buckner error pre-2004 would have been enough to make me cringe.


      -- Dave

    2. Re:Redemption for Mr. Lastowka is possible... by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

      Actually, the defensive first baseman was Dave Stapleton. He was a late inning first base replacement in games 1, 2, and 5.

    3. Re:Redemption for Mr. Lastowka is possible... by djp928 · · Score: 1

      Duh. Right. Stapes was the guy. Steve Sax was... Some other guy.

      -- Dave

  64. And what, exactly... by hackwrench · · Score: 0

    is Bill Buckner supposed to mean to me?

    1. Re:And what, exactly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're not a baseball fan from New England, you honestly wouldn't understand.

      Oh, what the heck...

      So, back in the old days, before the Boston Red Sox finally won the World Series in 2004, there was the perception that the Red Sox were a cursed team that would never be able to win it all ever again.

      The closest the team came to winning it all was in 1986. The Red Sox had won 3 games in the best-of-seven World Series, leading into the game which was recreated. So, if the Red Sox had won this game, they would have won the World Series. Instead, however, the New York Mets staged a comeback (as depicted in the video, or alternately you can watch the actual error itself at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C5-k_2ZvZ4&search= buckner as well). Bear in mind that the Red Sox were winning this game, and then it all fell apart at the end. The Mets proceeded to win the 7th game, and deny the Red Sox the World Series win.

      It should be noted that it really isn't all Buckner's fault. If one must be forced to put blame, the relief staff collapsed. But the easiest image to walk away from that game from was the image of the ball rolling through Buckner's legs, and that's what many fans focus on to this day. The Red Sox finally won in 2004, though, so it's not as painful to deal with.

  65. To put this in simple terms ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> [...] he stepped in front of a bus.
    >> It went through his legs.

    > [stuff about how it didn't really ruin his life, etc.]
    > Moreover, Buckner didn't leave Boston because of abuse.

    I think that I can illustrate what this all means:

       ___
      /   \     <---- Joke
    .
        0       <---- You
       -|-
        ^
       / \

    Any questions?

  66. stuff that matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we're nerds. sports don't interest us. remember?

    and this site is supposed to be "stuff that matters"

  67. Analogous... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    When a main character on a show I like dies it's sad, but that doesn't mean I'm going to have any desire to go after a guy who recreates it in machinima or something!