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Intel Names Upcoming Chips
Phooey42 writes "USA Today is reporting that Intel has finally announced names for their new set of desktop and notebook processor lines, previously dubbed Conroe and Merom. The new chips for both the desktop and laptop lines will be dubbed "Core 2 Duo", whereas their new "premium processor" for high end desktop users will be called the "Core 2 Extreme". Knowing Intel, who would have ever thought that the successor to the Core Duo would be the Core 2 Duo!?"
I am very happy to see Intel stepping it up in the Processor market again. Hopefully it will provide a nice environment for more competition between AMD and Intel again so another leap forward can be made in the computing world. Also, I hope they come up with a new jingle for this processor... I hate hte Pentium one. Hehe. Evil inside.
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Intel has recently come up with a series of totally unoriginal and ultimately confusing names for their CPUs.
For example, the "Core Duo" is a pretty unoriginal name for a dual core processor, and I've seen a lot of people start referring to dual core CPUs as "DuoCore" or other such nonsense.
Core 2 Duo? Talk about redundant and confusing naming...
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Let's extrapolate: How long until we get the Core 2 Duo Duplex Beta II?
Argh.
Clearly a better sequel to Core Duo would have been The Two Coreys.
against anything with the word "extreem" in it. This includes dictionaries that still contain this "word".
model when the Extreme version is out.
You may risk getting insulted at Best Buy: "Look at that loser buying the regular core duo, guess he cant handle the extreme."
Oh you got served sucker.
The phrase "more better" is acceptable English. suck it grammar Nazis
The successor to the "Core 2 Duo" will be the "Core 2 Duo: Championship Edition." Alas, folks will illegally mod the chip to the point that Intel releases its own "Core 2 Duo Turbo Hyper Fighting" modified chip to combat such modifications. Then they'll release "Super Core 2 Duo" but it'll bomb for the most part and it's home version will nearly bankrupt the company.
I know there has got to be a number of ways to make fun of these name choices. My problem is everything I come up with is obvious and pedantic
I am guessing Intel had the same problem.
I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
I read in a science magazine that these names are 50% unoriginal and 50% lame.
"The project has been using the code-name 'Death Star', but we felt that 'Laser 2 Station' would better strike fear into the Rebellion."
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Because they dont want to name their product after a condom?
But then again they would have the clear cut case of never crossing market segments becuase the people that are concerned about one will probably not have any use for the other.
The phrase "more better" is acceptable English. suck it grammar Nazis
The one you've got there is over 5 months old. Try this one.
Many companies are doing similar -- the goal is to emphasize the company brand name over the individual product names.
For example, Cadillac replaced the Seville and Deville with anonymous letters like STS and DTS. This puts more brand id on "Cadillac" part. And Apple is moving to a generic Mac* naming scheme to emphisize the "Apple" and "Mac" parts over the individual model names.
Intel had the problem that "Pentium" had such high brand recognition that it was difficult to move away from it, and after a while having products like "Pentium D" got very silly & confusing. They could create a new product brand like "Stupendium", but then they're starting at zero and they would just create the same problem again in the future. Instead they put that money behind "Intel" by picking a rather generic product names.
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Assholes, just name the thing "2 cores @ 3.8 ghz with 2 MB Cache 800 FSB."
That always pissed me off about AMD too. processors with the same clock speed but varying amounts of cache warranted a different "fake speed name". Fuck that, I hate having to read a spec chart to figure out exactly whats in a god damn cpu.
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I'm pretty sure the CPU makers quit caring about the general public's level of understanding about their processors a while ago. It used to be pretty simple, really. You had a primary name of a CPU and then a Mhz speed rating. That was apparently too much for many consumers to comprehend - judging by how many folks had no idea how many generations of Pentiums there were. (EG. "Isn't there a Pentium 5 now, or is the Pentium 4 the best one out?")
But these days, processor sales are geared towards the system builders and enthusiasts. Basically, it's up to Dell or HP or your local "mom and pop" system builder to choose an appropriate CPU for a given machine, and then to sell it on its merits to an end-user.
Really, with all the obfuscation of the true speeds of CPUs lately, not to mention all the variants with different numbers of pins on a socket, different amounts of internal cache, etc. - it seems like they're trying hard to ensure the "average user" *can't* understand exactly where the CPU they own benchmarks relative to the others.
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Intel has been dropping the ball lately on performance... it seems like the inmates in Marketing have been running this asylum for some time now. They need to hand it back over to Engineering if they are to stop their decline.
Especially now that even Marketing is running out of ideas, evidenced by stupid product names and logos. (VIIV? 64? 75? Core 2 Duo... Extreme? Wha...?!)
Make the product perform better than the competition. Make "Intel Inside" *mean something*.
Do that, and I'd be willing to bet that everything else (including bad marketing) will take care of itself.
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This is just brilliant marketing for Intel - instead of using logically progressive numbers (286, 386, 486) they are activly confusing the consumer base (Core Solo -> Core Duo -> Core 2 Duo -> Core 2 Extreme) with subjective an illogical naming conventions.
This means that consumers will have to rely more heavily on Best Buy and Dell to "guide" them right where Intel wants them - buying a computer with too much horsepower for what they want to do - send email and surf the web - but just enough so that when Vista arrives, it is "too slow" and an upgrade will be in order in a few years.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
What about 'Batman and Robin' ... the Dynamic Duo(tm)
So if I have a server with two of these, it's a dual Core 2 Duo? -j00bar
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Rejected Core 2 Duo Names:
1) CORE 2: The Meltdown
2) Dual HardCore Extreme2
3) Penetrino II
4) C.H.I.P.S. - Core Hardware Intel Pentium Substitute
5) The Dual Core Acute Consummate Maximal Intense Ultimate Severe Processor
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
They could have named them Duo Core Venti and Duo Core Grande.
When Intel first decided to abandon conventional chip numbering,
8086 . 80186 . 80286 . 80386 . 80486 and then magically 'Pentium',
based on the Latin for 5, I was convinced that there next one
would be 'Sexium', based on the Latin for 6.
And that really would have had 'Sex' appeal.
...will be whatever AMD comes up with as it tries to imitate Intel's names...
Let's trying to name our products as confusingly as possible:
Memory Stick (with MagicGate)
Memory Stick Pro
Memory Stick Duo
Memory Stick Pro Duo
Darned if I know which one will or will not work in my camera. Looks like they want to do the same thing for motherboards.
At least they didn't call it "Wii"
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At this point, the Core series are untouched in the laptop market when it comes to performance/power. They are extremely fast, up there with many desktop chips, yet very low power. That was one of the driving factors of Apple going Intel, the Core chips are impossible to beat at this point for efficient laptops.
) and, more importantly, is much more power efficient.
Looks like it's going to swing back around on the desktop too. The Conroe, Intel's next gen desktop chip looks like it's a powerhouse. It's apparantly faster than what's out currently (http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2713&p=1
To me, looks like Intel is doing just fine. I know it's popular to hate on Intel, but really, their products are not bad. AMD does not have some amazing, crushing superority. Their products are a little faster right now. Ok, great, looks liek Intel's products will be a little faster here soon, and I expect AMD to hit back with something not long after that.
Even though Pentiums and Xeons have shared the same core since P6 (Pentium 2), Intel has reserved some workstation/server features (like multiple processors) for the Xeon platform (AMD does the same for Athlon/Opteron).
So if Apple still wants dual-processor options for the PowerMac's successor, then they will very likely use Woodcrest (Xeon). However, the emergence of dual-core and the availability of Intel "Extreme" CPUs might mean Apple does not need more than one processor anymore for their "pro" desktops. Also, Intel offers "low end" workstation platforms that use Pentium CPUs with worstation chipsets (ECC memory, worstation graphics cards, PCI-X, PCIe x4/x8). Example: E7230 chipset.
My revised predictions: iMac will use Core 2 Duo. PowerMac (Mac Pro?) will use Core 2 Extreme (no more dual-processor) with a workstation chipset (ECC, workstation graphics cards, PCIe x4 and x8 slots). Xserve will use dual-processor Xeon (Woodcrest). I'm hoping Apple will offer another non-pro desktop (besides iMac and Mac mini) that uses Core 2 Duo.
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