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Web Release of the Open Movie Elephants Dream

Joe (and many others) writes "This month has seen the internet release of the first 3D 'Open Movie', Elephants Dream." From the site: "The 3D animated short 'Elephants Dream' will today be released as a free and public download. This is the final stage of a successfully completed Open Movie project which has been community-financed, using only Open Source tools, and opening up the movie itself as well as the entire studio database for everyone to re-use and learn from. The movie and production files are licensed as Creative Commons Attribution 2.5, which only requires a proper crediting for public screening, re-using and distribution."

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  1. Just the free market at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What we're seeing here is just the free market at work, re-adjusting itself to the distortion of the past 20 or so years. It's clearly obvious to many that a movie star is not worth $20 million per movie these days. They can easily be replaced by high-quality, CG actors and actresses. Thus their real value has declined significantly.

    Projects like this were bound to happen sooner or later. Now that the technology is readily available, the market is able to take care of the problem of overpaid movie stars and distribution companies.

    1. Re:Just the free market at work. by geoffspear · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whatever. The thousands of low budget copyrighted short films produced before this "open" short film didn't kill Hollywood, and neither will this one. If you think Pixar and Dreamworks are worried, you're seriously deluded.

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    2. Re:Just the free market at work. by starwed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They could have been replaced by human actors as well, many of whom can act better than those paid $20 million.

    3. Re:Just the free market at work. by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "It's clearly obvious to many that a movie star is not worth $20 million per movie these days. They can easily be replaced by high-quality, CG actors and actresses. Thus their real value has declined significantly."

      Clearly obvious to geeks, maybe.

      The reason that Joe Public goes to see a movie is not for the plot, nor for the special effects, but for the star power. People will see Pirates of the Caribean for Keira Knightly and Johnny Depp, not because it's about pirates.

      Even if we replace actual actors with CGI clones, or purely CGI characters develop, it will cost $20 million to license their image, because star power is what draws people to the movies in the first place. The movie industry is one of the freest markets, and I think it's a tough case to make that the money stars make is somehow distorted.

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    4. Re:Just the free market at work. by geoffspear · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You think some toy company is going to want to market toys based on a short film no one but a bunch of geeks has seen rather than toys based on a movie that grossed hundreds of millions of dollars and was seen by every kid in the country, all of whom will whine to their parents that they want the toys involved with it?

      I'm absolutely shocked that you're not the CEO of Mattel by now, with brilliant thinking like that.

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    5. Re:Just the free market at work. by demachina · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh...in a word.....no.

      CG actors aren't even close to replacing human actors for most things. CG actors are great for cartoony characters that humans couldn't do anyway. You try to sell a CG actor, in their current state of development, off as a real human actor people immediately spot the fact its synthetic, start noticing all the little traits that aren't human, it immediately starts bugging the audience, they get distracted and turned off by the whole movie. Animation tools simply aren't there to pull off a synthetic human for any length of time. Its really hard for an animator to key every nuance of a lifted eyebrow, or just to lip sync well to a sound track of a voice recording. When an actor speaks every motion and nuance is perfectly in sync with and natural for the audio track. It takes enormous effort for an animator to just get close and then they still don't nail all the nuances of emotion that goes along with whats actually being said. Again it works for cartoon characters because people don't expect perfection. As soon as you try to pull off a synthetic human everyone does expect perfection.

      Human actors who have real character, like Humphrey Bogart or Lauren Bacall are a pretty valuable commodity, though I will agree many actors today don't rate the salaries or praise they get. A key problem is they are often working off bad scripts and with bad directors.

      I wager part of the wasteland that is film today is because todays movie makers, script writers and actors grew up in the TV age and are remarkably devoid of creativity and character. This is a reason we see so many crappy remakes of medicore plots and TV shows like Bewitched. I'm wondering if the rising generations will do better. They grew up in the Internet age and have the ability to search for ideas, and their searches can take them in a billion different directions, versus the one spoon fed direction TV takes its viewers. They have an increasingly vast pool of information and ideas at their disposal so maybe they will be more creative than the current largely failed generation of film makers.

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    6. Re:Just the free market at work. by bigredradio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agree. Being a father, I am exposed to a lot of cartoon/CG movies. I love pixar movies becuase of the writing and the stars that say the lines. I am looking forward to seeing cars. Come'on can anybody replace "Larry the Cable guy" in a role like that?

      However, I have also seen some real crap. The Barbie movies are CG and they suck. I can't stand to watch any of them. Along with the care bears (not cg but cartoon). Its not the medium, it's the story and the actors. Even if it's only their voices. Robin Williams as the genie? Have you seen the after-market dvds with another actor. It really makes a difference.

      Take care.
    7. Re:Just the free market at work. by saboola · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can try to make a CGI person jump up and down on a couch like a monkey on a daytime talk show, but it will never be quite right. This is why actors are worth $20 mil.

    8. Re:Just the free market at work. by jank1887 · · Score: 2, Informative
      You got that right. My daughter has a book based on one of those Barbie ones. Even those still shots are hard to look at. CG isn't there yet for human actors. The problem is that it's too good, but not good enough yet. We can do cartoony people really well (Incredibles), but not real ones. Why? Because of The Uncanny Valley.

      "The phenomenon can be explained by the notion that if an entity is sufficiently non-humanlike, then the humanlike characteristics will tend to stand out and be noticed easily, generating empathy. On the other hand, if the entity is "almost human", then the non-human characteristics will be the ones that stand out, leading to a feeling of "strangeness" in the human viewer."

      As we try to inch closer to perfect, we actually get worse results from the general populace. Maybe film CG will break the valley, but it's a long road.

    9. Re:Just the free market at work. by Helios1182 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference is that Pixar has hordes of great artists, producers, directories, writers, etc. working for them. They have the tools and the talent. Not to mention the marketing, distribution, name recognition, etc.

    10. Re:Just the free market at work. by Eideewt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure.

  2. Before it's slashdoted.... by fak3r · · Score: 4, Informative
    Download the movie AVI, MPEG4 (mp42) / AC3 5.1 Surround

    Only playable in: VLC Media Player MPlayer

    1. Re:Before it's slashdoted.... by fak3r · · Score: 5, Informative
    2. Re:Before it's slashdoted.... by Elrond · · Score: 2, Funny

      They should have put it up on video.google.com.

    3. Re:Before it's slashdoted.... by samael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why on earth is it only available in those formats rather than being a straight MPEG?

  3. Zonk Title Sense Make Little Gah! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone else have to read that title a few times before it made sense?

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  4. And That's not all... by Cherita+Chen · · Score: 2, Funny
    There is also the Open Video Project which sports a very cool library of footage, etc...

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  5. Elephants Only Web Dream Release? Huh? by i_am_the_r00t · · Score: 2, Funny

    did someone chew on these words and spit them on my slashdot?

  6. Any information at all? by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    OK, so the homepage is Slashdotted, and the Mirrordot link is just the notice explaining the Slashdotting. So does anyone have any information about this movie at all?

    • How long is it?
    • If it was created using a "community process," how did the writing and direction work?
    • Who does the voice acting, if any?
    • Where did the music come from?
    • WTF is it about?
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    1. Re:Any information at all? by fak3r · · Score: 5, Informative

      ummary from Motevideo:

              Elephants Dream is a story with quick-witted dialogue, tightly designed architecture and unusual sound effects. The main characters, Emo (a cool young trumpeter) and Proog (a confused - or maybe not? - loner) are each stuck in a world of their own. At a certain moment they cross paths with one another. The oddball Proog cautiously tries to introduce his young friend Emo to his world. When Emo realizes that Proog primarily wants to push his ideas on him, this leads to a conflict between them. But can Emo survive in Proog's world? And can they overcome their conflicts, or will they each go their own way in life? Tygo Gernandt and Cas Jansen create two unique personalities that command the imagination, and carry the viewer along into a bizarre world that consists of a bleak wasteland with a tangle of cables and other alien landscapes, a living typewriter, an enormous elevator shaft, and especially a lot of very strange birds.

      Also checkout the Wikipedia entry:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephants_Dream

    2. Re:Any information at all? by slapout · · Score: 2, Informative

      The whole point of the project was to see if a movie could be created using Blender 3d. It's called the Orange Project and they have a blog about the production. The Orange Project website, however, is currently slashdotted.
      When it comes back you can check it out at: http://orange.blender.org/

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    3. Re:Any information at all? by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Elephants Dream is a story with quick-witted dialogue, tightly designed architecture and unusual sound effects. The main characters, Emo (a cool young trumpeter) and Proog (a confused - or maybe not? - loner) are each stuck in a world of their own. At a certain moment they cross paths with one another. The oddball Proog cautiously tries to introduce his young friend Emo to his world. When Emo realizes that Proog primarily wants to push his ideas on him, this leads to a conflict between them. But can Emo survive in Proog's world? And can they overcome their conflicts, or will they each go their own way in life? Tygo Gernandt and Cas Jansen create two unique personalities that command the imagination, and carry the viewer along into a bizarre world that consists of a bleak wasteland with a tangle of cables and other alien landscapes, a living typewriter, an enormous elevator shaft, and especially a lot of very strange birds.

      In reality, it is two weirdos running through psychedelic landscapes and talking mostly nonsense. The graphics are very well done and quite imaginative, and the big battle at the end is cool - the Colossus rocks, even if we see just a hand.

      But no, this thing has no real plot. Sorry. It just doesn't. It is, essentially, a demo. Perfectly understandable, since the whole point of this project was to see if you can make a movie with free open source tools, and a success as such - but for this very reason the whole script is simply and excuse to show as many special effects as possible. They are very good, and the whole thing is quite entertaining in its own surreal way - but the description you gave assigns it philosophical qualitites it just doesn't have.

      Don't get me wrong, movie makers: your work is truly amazing. However, you if the description given was what you wanted to say, you failed. The reason for this failure was giving too much priority for FX, and failure to give the viewer any frame of reference (maybe you should have shown the two people meeting instead of starting from the middle of their journey ?). This improved somewhat near end, but most of the movie was just too surreal to carry any recognizable meanings.

      So, basically: a huge technological success, mediocre at best in storytelling, characters simply didn't interact enough with each other (or anything else) to develop any personality beyond simple "youth curious, old forbids him" stereotype.

      Nice surreal tech demo, but only that.

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    4. Re:Any information at all? by markdavis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I couldn't agree with you more. And calling it a "movie" or "film" is just... well.... WRONG. A ten minute psycho-trip with no story, no plot, and uninteresting/undeveloped characters is more like a graphics demo. Perhaps a video hardware benchmark (HD).

      I am impressed at the graphics... and the open nature... but that is about all it has going for it.

    5. Re:Any information at all? by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Script writers shouldn't render 3D demos, and geeks shouldn't write scripts. That's the moral of the story.

      While the scenery, effects and character modeling were intriguing and really really well done, the character animation was odd and crude.

      The voice acting and dialog not just lack any logic or consistency but were flat out annoying.

      One would wonder why they spent all those resources and time on creating this animation but didn't care to get a decent screenplay at first.

      All in all, it may've used OSS tools, but they followed the good ol' Hollywood paradigm: all effects and the story sucks.

  7. NOOOOO by benjjj · · Score: 5, Funny

    YOU CAN'T MAKE OPEN-SOURCE MOVIES!!! Who gets the money??? Who sells shitloads of licensed garbage??? My head is about to EXPLODE!!!

    1. Re:NOOOOO by dasdrewid · · Score: 2, Funny

      This can only lead to one thing:

      Open Source fast food restaurants with toys that choke young children because, after including the GPL, there's no space left for the "CHOKING HAZARD" warning...

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  8. Elephant's Dream by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > From the site: "The 3D animated short 'Elephants Dream' will today be released as a free and public download.

    Also from the site:

    > 425MB (USA #1)

    Not for long, it won't be.

    (Where are an elephant's genitals located? In his feet. Because if he steps on you, you're fucked. Any parallels between a webserver with a 425 MB .avi file that just got linked on the front page of Slashdot are purely coincidental.)

  9. Just wishful thinking at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "What we're seeing here is just the free market at work, re-adjusting itself to the distortion of the past 20 or so years. It's clearly obvious to many that a movie star is not worth $20 million per movie these days. They can easily be replaced by high-quality, CG actors and actresses. Thus their real value has declined significantly."

    Translation into slashspeak: I want free movies. Of course as the saying goes, "you get what you pay for".

    1. Re:Just wishful thinking at work. by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course as the saying goes, "you get what you pay for".

      Do you pay for slashdot?
      Do you think slashdot is worthless?
      Why do morons keep repeating that, when there are soooo many counterexamples?
      the saying just has no meaning in real life.
      Do you pay for Linux?
      Do you pay for GNOME?
      I even didn't pay for my Ubuntu CDs, and I have a great OS!!!

      Of course, you could say that things don't get made for free, magically, and that someone has to pay for stuff, always. But you don't get what you pay for.
      About movies, Da Vinci code's production must have paid top dollar for that Tom Hank's hairpiece, and it looks like shit. They surely didn't get what they paid for.

  10. A start, I suppose by Benanov · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Open movie...open build process, open tools... But...no open codecs.

    1. Re:A start, I suppose by fossa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Truly a shame... especially if the claim of a previous poster is correct "VLC or MPlayer only". Both of these play Ogg Theora for example on Linux, Mac, and Windows. If you're already using a format that doesn't work by default with, say, QuickTime and Windows Media Player, why not go all out and use Theora?

      P.S. It looks like the latest version of Xiph's QuickTime Components has preliminary Theora playback. And there have been DirectShow (Windows Media Player) filters for Ogg codecs for some time now.

      P.P.S. Anyone know that status of Dirac?

    2. Re:A start, I suppose by FunkyChild · · Score: 4, Informative

      We tried our best to make a Theora/Voribs file for the release, but weren't able to. I (a Mac user) spent the best part of a week attempting different things to encode versions from 1024 down, analogous to the H.264 ones. I even installed Linux on an old PC in the hope that it would make things easier, but it didn't. Our audio guy was in contact with Ogg Vorbis developers and produced what may be the first 5.1 surround Vorbis file in existence. Currently, after a lot of trial and error, I'm left with an Ogg Theora video file, and a stereo Ogg Vorbis Audio file. They seem both fine on their own, but when I tried to merge them with oggzmerge, the two are out of sync. Along with the encoding of the other files, the release of our new website, our promise to release the videos, and thousands of screaming fans, I didn't have time to keep trying so we released as is.

      Hopefully when the release fuss dies down I'll blog about it and try and get some help. In any case, those who condemn others for not using open formats should actually try and use them themselves. I'm sure Theora would get used a lot more if it were easy, or even at least possible for content producers (i.e. artists, not developers) to actually use. My experience hasn't shown that to be the case so far.

      Cheers

      Matt

  11. Teasers / Trailers for the impatient by fak3r · · Score: 3, Informative
    30MB MPEG4 (BitTorrent)

    30MB MPEG4 (blendertestbuilds.de)

    Update Oct 17: Here are some other mirrors and compressed versions made by the community!

    24MB MPEG (BitTorrent)

    9MB Xvid/Vorbis OGM

  12. i can't wait by icepick72 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I laughed, I cried, it was part of me. Too bad it's still downloading.

  13. A little more info by lawpoop · · Score: 3, Informative
    Since the link only provides download mirrors and torrent links, here's some background about the project from Wikipedia:

    "Elephants Dream is a computer-generated movie made using open source applications that premiered on March 24, 2006. Beginning production in September, 2005, it was developed under the name Orange by a team of seven artists and animators from around the world. It was originally known as Machina, before being changed to Elephants Dream to more closely match the way the script was developed.

    The film was first announced in May, 2005 by Ton Roosendaal, the chairman of the Blender Foundation and the lead developer of the foundation's program, Blender. A 3D modelling, animating, and rendering application, Blender is the primary piece of software being used in the creation of the movie. The project is joint funded by the Blender Foundation and the Netherlands Media Art Institute. The Foundation raised much of their funds by selling pre-orders of the DVD. Everyone who preordered before September 1 has their name listed in the movie's credits. A number of companies also donated render farm time for the movie.

    The film's purpose is primarily to showcase the capabilities of open source software and evaluate it as a tool for organizing and producing quality content for professional films.

    During the film's development, several new features, such as hair and fur rendering [1], were added into Blender especially for the project.

    The film's content was released under the Creative Commons Attribution license [2], so that viewers may learn from it and use it however they please. The DVD set includes NTSC and PAL versions of the movie on separate discs, a high-definition video version as a computer file, and all the production files.

    The film was released for download on the Official Orange Project website on May 18, 2006, along with all production files.

    "


    Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts.

    A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".

    Content on Wikipedia is covered by disclaimers.

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  14. Project background by bartv2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've posted an article on the background of this project: http://www.blendernation.com/2006/05/18/the-worlds -first-open-movie-released/ Enjoy!

  15. Multi-core by gr8_phk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we know what people will do with 4 cores and up. Render their own movies.

    1. Re:Multi-core by ggy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yup, I just did 'emerge elephantsdream'. Should be ready in time for the sequel. ;)

  16. Won't someone think of the fluffers? by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...so please, please remember - when you make "open" movies, you don't just take profits away from some Hollywood fat-cats; You hurt the gaffers and set designers and makeup artists and fluffers and all the rest of the "little guys". Without all of them, the movies you love just couldn't exist!"

  17. Re:Wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No Final Cut Pro, all composting and editing was done inside Blender.

  18. And I thought the Elephant's Dream... by digitaldc · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was to live on a muddy peanut farm in a world without circuses or pianos.

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  19. Half Right by iamlucky13 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    CG actors and actresses don't come close to the realism, emotion, or raporte that real ones do. I personally doubt (and kind of hope they don't, because it would be somewhat creepy) they never actually will. CG is a great medium for getting creating fantasy (like with Toy Story or Shrek) or for unique special effects (like the Matrix or Fight Club...but not Star Wars. ILM owned CG in the original trilogy, in my opinion).

    Where you are right is that real actors aren't really worth $20 million or whatever a film. I'll bet there's thousands of aspiring actors out there with just as much talent and even as much good looks as the celebrities who roll in the dough from major productions. The reason they do get the money though is marketing. It's a familiar face and a person who's given the audience a positive experience before. How many people go watch a Tom Cruise movie just because it's Tom Cruise (although I no longer understand the appeal behind that one)? How many CG films still pay out big bucks to get major names doing the voice acting?

    I'm not saying that a movie can't succeed without big name actors, but it's almost like an insurance policy. The major studios can basically rely on a certain amount of income based entirely off of who's name is with the movie.

  20. Well... I wonder... by rcastro0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder, and I am too lazy to research, whether being open source
    also means that I could download the 3d models they used and create
    my own film stories, TV commercial, product endorsements, pron, etc...

    Is there any "open source", copyright-free 3d model characters out there
    that one could just grab and use ?

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    1. Re:Well... I wonder... by belg4mit · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, they released their source.

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    2. Re:Well... I wonder... by The_DoubleU · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. If you buy the DVD version you will get all the textures, bender modules, etc used for this movie. You can copy it, modify it and release it, as long as you provide credit where credit is due.

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  21. 311MB by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Funny

    311 Megabytes. This is going to be a Slashdotting to end all Slashdottings.

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  22. Obvisously a technology demonstration by Enselic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I saw the whole thing, and it is obvious that this movie was made by technology geeks, and not cultural geeks. The graphics is easily in par with commercial movies, but the script sounds as if it was authored by a chatbot.

    1. Re:Obvisously a technology demonstration by brjndr · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...but the script sounds as if it was authored by a chatbot.

      or George Lucas

    2. Re:Obvisously a technology demonstration by CreatorOfSmallTruths · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, a proffesional script writer wrote the story. I suggest you go through the movie a few times (say , 10 ) before saying it's a tech demo, because it's not. As for the technical aspects, there are always places to improve, the beauty part here is that you will be able to load the blender scene files and fix it yourself. No need to wait for anyone else.

  23. How good is it? by hexix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All the comments seem to be focused on the open source aspect, which is cool and very important. However, did anyone actually watch this movie?

    I watched it the other day (I think it was on digg or boing boing or something). I thought it was insanely bad. It was like I came in halfway through some crazy anime. I didn't know what the hell was going on. I couldn't even begin to figure out what the characters were suppose to be feeling or thinking.

    This has a cool factor going for it, but man it was painful to watch. The 3D work was well done as far as textures and models, but the animation seemed really awkward and bad.

    I don't think anyone should be patting themselves on the backs too hard yet. If this is what the open source model can produce for entertainment, then I don't think Pixar has much to fear.

    However, the possibility for movie remixes should be pretty cool.

    1. Re:How good is it? by reldruH · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the main reason this is important is solely because it's the first open source movie. It's mainly showcasing the fact that such a thing is possible. Just like with any first, you can't really hold it to standards of greatness. Edisons light bulb was probably pretty weak and didn't last very long, but the fact that he did it set the stage for massive improvements later on. Nobody expected him to come up with flourescent lights, but without him (or somebody else doing the same thing) we would have never had flourescent lights.

      Movie remixes should be awesome. Even better since anybody can make them. The possibilities are enormous.

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    2. Re:How good is it? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Everyone is forgetting that Open Source Motion Capture is not here yet. The hardware for motion capture is still quirky and expensive to get working with any of the very few OSS projects out there and it's in it's really early stages for Blender Motion capture.

      as soon as they get motion capture working the "jerkyness" will disappear and end up 100% identical to hollywierd productions as that is all they do.

      REmember, this is people doing it for fun as a hobby. Pixar programmers do it for insane salaries and with an insane budget.

      They get to get there faster simply because of the bottomless Visa card they get.

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  24. What? by Gannoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    > Hello, I am Eliza.
    * Web Release of the Open Movie Elephants Dream
    > Come, come, elucidate your thoughts.
    * Web Release of the Open Movie Elephants Dream
    > Say, do you have any psychological problems?

  25. Re:Wrong... by dr_dank · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sad... Cineralla could have done it couldn't it?

    Nope, it turned into a pumpkin after midnight.

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  26. Re:Wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The film was edited using Blender's sequence editor. This is discussed quite a bit on the "making of" DVD documentary.

    One of the biggest developments of this project (imo, as a filmmaker) is the vast improvement of Blender's sequence editor. The RAM usage has been fixed up so well that it now functions very well as a non-linear editor, and doing complex cutting is easier than any other open-source program. 2.42 will also integration with FFMpeg, so it will be able to handle a multitude of formats.

  27. More resources by dasdrewid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you're interested in some more resources for Blender (or info on the movie), try checking these places out:

    Blendernation

    Blendernation article about Elephants Dream

    Blender Artists Forums

    Collection of WikiBooks

    Elephants Dream on Wikipedia (in case you don't know anything about it, considering the main website is down and the original poster didn't say much of anything about the short itself)

    Blender on Wikipedia

    Seriously, though, considering how much has been happening with this project, and what a significant milestone it is for those who use OSS and/or CC, I find it almost sad that this is the first story on Slashdot in almost exactly a year. And that it took Slashdot editors well over a day since the first story submissions (some with links directly to the torrents to avoid killing the Elephants Dream homepage immediately) to get this up. Maybe I'm biased (I pre-ordered the DVD 9 months ago), but I just think that stories about people doing amazing things within and beyond the community deserves precedence over the latest reports about what the PS3 might cost. Not to anger anyone, just to toss that up for discussion.

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  28. It is Not Possible That This Movie Exists by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 2, Funny

    Without copyright protection for life + 75 years, people will not make movies. Everyone knows that.

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    My turnips listen for the soft cry of your love
  29. Huh... it must be "art". by rdmiller3 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Elephants Dream" had wildly complex animation and sound. That much was very impressive. Aside from that though, it was an incoherent mess.

    With no background, the viewer is thrown successively into four or five disjointed sequences where the same two characters move through a ludicrously-impossible "machine" which has no apparent purpose.

    I thought I must surely have only seen the trailer. No, that was the whole film.

    The voice for "Emo" was very wrong somehow, I can't put my finger on it. Might it have been done by several different people? No reference at all to Elephants.

    The "description" in the parent to this article is bogus because half of the things it mentions aren't even in the film! There was no "quick-witted dialog" because there was hardly any dialog at all. Emo is a trumpet player? That wasn't in the film. Proog is a loner? In the film he's always with Emo. Proog doesn't "cautiously introduce" anything, but shouts "Follow me!" before dashing along narrow, railless, flipping catwalks with hostile bird-things swooping about. If Emo feels that Proog is pushing his ideas, well, I can't imagine what those ideas are since the guy doesn't say much of anything except that the machine is "beautiful". These characters don't have any conflicts to work out, except where Emo wants to go through a door with calliope music coming from behind it and begs like a three-year-old.

    This film doesn't "carry" the viewer at all. It drags the viewer, kicking and screaming, through complex scenes with no coherence. One reaches the credits and says, "What was that about?"

    Yah. Must be "art".

  30. IMDB? by chochos · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is this movie ever going to have an entry in the IMDB? I'd like to see a rating before I download 450MB...

    Also, it would be cool to have a downloadable ISO, to burn directly to a DVD and watch on a TV instead of in the computer. It's also an easier way to pass it around to non-tech people who would like to watch it.

  31. Anyone Interested In Making a Re-Edit? by kayser_soze · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just watched the movie, and I must say I really liked the animation (sans the sometimes jerky character animation). I thought the backgrounds, and other scenic elements were pretty well done. I really dug the dark feel it has.

    Then we get to the plot/story/dialog.

    Being nice...it was incomprehensible. Being not so nice...poop.

    Anyway, I think the thing has some great potential. Is there anyone here interested in perhaps re-writing the story and redoing character voices? I'd be more than willing to help with the writing and editing the story.

    Reply under this post if you'd like to help, and I'll try and get something going.

    [C]

  32. I knew this day would come..... by nblender · · Score: 4, Funny

    cd movie ; ./configure --pg13 --with-keanu=/usr/local/actors/keanu --with-lindsay=/usr/local/actors/lindsay --disable-product-placements && make && mplayer movie.out

  33. This has nothing to do with the "free market" by John+Nowak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What we have here is a bunch of people that worked to create tools and give them away for free. Without compensation. We then have another group of people who created a movie for free. Without compensation.

    What you have here is a gift economy. This has nothing to do with primitive "free market" economics.