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Pirates Promise Improved Version of DaVinci Code

Y'arr, Matey writes "CD Freaks is reporting that pirates are not happy with the quality of the DaVinci Code. According to the article, "A sales assistant at one Shanghai DVD shop said the initial copies were 'pirated overseas' and that 'better quality' versions would probably be available early next month.""

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  1. From the reviews I must conclude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    That the new version will be 0 minutes long.

    1. Re:From the reviews I must conclude by glass_window · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually they just scanned the book in and put it in a pdf onto DVD.

    2. Re:From the reviews I must conclude by nwbvt · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I doubt that would help all that much. I've never read the book, but I read two of his other books in a reading group a few years back. Damn, he has to be one of the worst writers ever. Neither plot made any sense, the 'science' in them (both were considered intelligent novels by the critics which you could learn a lot from) was complete bull, the stories were predictible, the characters flat, the dialog worse than anything from the first three Star Wars movies... If the Da Vinci Code (shouldn't it be The Leonardo Code anyways? Da Vinci was neither his name nor his surname...) was only half as bad as either of those I fully understand what pissed off the Catholic Church.

      Sorry for this completely off topic rant, but I just get like this whenever I hear how great Dan Brown novels are (which has been a lot recently).

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  2. News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't it normal that the first pirated copies aren't top quality? I'm not sure how this is news.

    1. Re:News? by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not, it isn't normal that the first pirated copies aren't top quality.

      The guys who do this stuff usually try to get their hands on (pre)release DVD/VHS screeners.

      Failing that, they grab a telecine or an telesync done in an empty theater.

      Cams usually suck because of their bad quality, both audio and visual. Street corner bootleggers (in countries where it's something of a professional business) generally get their VCD/DVDs from a source that is hooked into the topsites.

      Cam releases don't count for much in "the scene".

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    2. Re:News? by mlewan · · Score: 3, Informative

      It is normal that the first pirated copies are of bad quality. It is true that cam releases suck, but they sell nevertheless. If the pirates can get their hands on better material, that's fine, but it is by no means a rule that they do. And "they" don't wait for optimal material to release their DVDs. (I'm sure some do wait, but they are not the ones first to the market.)

    3. Re:News? by fritzk3 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did you learn that stuff from "Seinfeld" (where Kramer cams movies) or from "The Scene" (www.welcometothescene.com)?

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    4. Re:News? by macdaddy357 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the pirates are making lousy copies, maybe you should buy them from ninjas instead.

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    5. Re:News? by blhack · · Score: 2, Informative

      The guys who do this stuff usually try to get their hands on (pre)release DVD/VHS screeners.

      while this is true, kudos are given to the group who releases the best copy as quickly as they can. As of late the best copies have been cams (often mislabeled as telesyncs). This is due to a huge scene bust that happened last summer. A lot of the bigger groups got out of the scene for fear of going to jail. You are correct that a telecine is used for scene releases, but what you missed was that correctly done telecines are very highly respected. They are also not done in an empty theater. A telecine machine requires that you actually run the film through it. Because of this, you cannot run a telecine and watch the movie on a big screen at the same time. If you want more information on this sort of thing, you should check out This website

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  3. wonderful news! by Schlemphfer · · Score: 4, Funny
    I hope these "better quality" versions feature an improved script.

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    1. Re:wonderful news! by clem.dickey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait for the HD-DVD copies. HD-DVD is supposed to be much better than DVD in all respects.

    2. Re:wonderful news! by Petrushka · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank you! -- for ending my work day on an out-loud laugh.

    3. Re:wonderful news! by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When I first saw the headline, I actually thought that they were going to edit it to make it better. I haven't seen it yet but I heard it was pretty bad.

    4. Re:wonderful news! by grammar+fascist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even better, you were moderated "Offtopic" for... appreciating a joke! Excellent!

      It looks like somebody didn't read the moderator guidelines.

      You may now mod-bomb me, I am full of love.

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  4. Content by Arghdee · · Score: 3, Funny

    What, so they're re-filming it, this time with a better story???

    1. Re:Content by Gryle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not re-filming, but they are digitally editing Tom Hank's hair to make it suitable for public viewing.

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    2. Re:Content by kubrick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ever read Foucault's Pendulum?

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    3. Re:Content by coffeechica · · Score: 2

      Yes... especially the part where their plot generating machine comes up with something that closely resembles the Da Vinci Code and they dismiss it as complete and utter crap. Eco is probably feeling rather smug these days.

  5. Why is this on /. by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People cam/telesync/telecine the movie, and finally a dvd ripped version comes along later. This happens to every movie, why is this news. Even if this was unique to DaVinci Code, this doesn't belong on the front page of /.

    1. Re:Why is this on /. by Zemran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe you have not been reading /. for long or something but it certainly is not a pro-piracy haven. Disgust at the MPAA/RIAA activities does not in any way imply a pro-piracy stance, mearly a dislike of bully boy tactics. Most people here say that things should be more readily available and free to use as you like once you have bought but I have seldom seen a post that advocates piracy.

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    2. Re:Why is this on /. by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'll bite. I think most people agree copyright infringment is wrong and should be delt with somehow.

      What they don't agree with is the *AA treating all their customers like criminals with (sometimes really nasty) copy protection that the real criminals know how to get past anyway.

      Or the *AA creating ridiculous numbers and blaming all losses (even stuff thats not a real loss, like them missing their target growth) on copyright infringment, regardless of how crappy a product is.

      Ot them using mafia tactics of "I don't have much proof and might not win in court, but I'll drown you in legal fees if you don't pay $3000 for something we think you did."

    3. Re:Why is this on /. by hereschenes · · Score: 5, Funny

      Huh? Of course everyone knows that every new movie gets pirated. The article is just to highlight the sheer cheek of the so-called "sales assistant", and (perhaps as an aside) how that might unwittingly be an interesting reflection on society's attitude to pirated goods. Really, it's just supposed to be funny. Remember that? Humour? That thing that makes your tummy wobble up and down with mirth?

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    4. Re:Why is this on /. by NutscrapeSucks · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you have not been reading /. for long or something but it certainly is not a pro-piracy haven

      You are not reading very deeply into this. What goes on here is very much a justification-fest for Internet copyright infringmenet, where frail nerds tell each other that they aren't bad persons by voting the same opinions +5 Insightful over and over again.

      Dislike of RIAA/MPAA tactics is only one small part of this, you can also claim that "information wants to be free", "their business model is obsolete", "people wouldn't pay for this stuff anyway", "their statistics lie", "infringement is not (as bad as) stealing!!!!!!", or really any argument that happens to fit the bill and you'll be lauded because you've provided moral cover for someone.

      Admittedly, there is a small "free music" faction on slashdot trading their public-domain folksongs, but by in large the obsession with firesharing around here is very much because computer nerds love the downloading. (myself included)

      If you have any doubt this is the predominate attitude, check the "DSL/Cable Hog" stories, Bittorrent site stories, or video game piracy stories -- same attitude over-and-over which is that "Piracy is great fun except for those meanies trying to stop us".

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    5. Re:Why is this on /. by rob_squared · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well to be fair, some gripes with copyright are valid, namely the duration of copyright laws. If the origonal rules of copyright were in place in the US, then you would be able to freely trade or resell all the star wars movies, all the origonal Star Trek episodes, and draw Mickey mouse in any cartoon you'd like without any legal issue.

      For some perspective, the movie The Da Vinci Code will enter the public domain in 2081. By then, the US will have already celebrated its tricentennial. The last Apollo moon landing will have been 99 years ago, and I will be 98 years old.

      That, I think, is a problem.

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    6. Re:Why is this on /. by bit01 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stop trying to pretend that there is only one point of view on slashdot.

      There are many thousands of readers and commentators on slashdot with many diverse points of view. Everything from Ayn Rand ideologues against almost any form of government to lying RIAA astroturfers spamming bullshit commercial propaganda and bogus moderations.

      Your attempt to pidgeonhole them into one box is just sad, and shows just how impoverished your own view of the world is.

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    7. Re:Why is this on /. by moonbender · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you can't discuss intellectual property issues on Slashdot because you're automatically just providing moral cover to yourself and others and that makes your contribution worthless? No, sorry, that won't work. While it'd be nice to have people make the argument for you who don't have any vested interest, it's not likely this will happen. Disqualifying - and that is what you are doing, even if you're saying you're just making an observation - arguments based on the (lack of) merits of the author is poor style.

      Besides, you're wrong. Slashdot is actually pretty good about giving differing views "air time". Of course you'll find lots of anti-IP commentary at +5 in the respective stories (and sometimes, in totally unrelated stories...), but you'll often find pro-IP comments at the same threshold. And meta-comments like yours aren't exactly rare, either.

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    8. Re:Why is this on /. by linvir · · Score: 3, Funny

      It seems to slip below the radar every fucking time, so I've created a graphical illustration of how to spot a foot icon and what it means.

    9. Re:Why is this on /. by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let me just start off by saying that exactly the same is going on in quite many social groups outside "frail nerds". Here in Norway the latest BSA stats show pirated software on the rise to 35% of all software, a recent poll showed >25% of males 16-24 has downloaded TV shows (which aren't legally available anywhere). Particularly mp3 trading among kids and teens is rampant (try asking anyone with an iPod or other portable player) and college students have long been heavy pirates of everything, far and wide beyond a small circle of nerds.

      On slashdot you at least see a lot more serious attempts at justification than "I've used up my allowance/budget this month already", if any at all beyond "Why not? It's free". Here on slashdot you at least get a broader discussion on the basis for and duration of copyright, DRM and implications for consumer rights, interoperability and competition, time and formatshifting and other fair uses, how they strike down on P2P tools, implications for privacy and so on. Obviously, there's those who just want to be able to leech the latest CD/DVD and not pay for it, and just feel they need an excuse. Those people will always find one anyway.

      It's also really hard to reach the middle ground with a "fair" exchange when there's none to be had from the other side. There's also certainly those who advocate fighting fire with fire and that only through mass disobedience of copyright law (which is not quite the same as civil disobedience, where a few are doing it vocally but rather where as a mass is doing it silently) is the only way to bring about change. So far my impression is that all it means is that legitimate consumers get even less rights though, but I suppose this is like a rubber band between consumers and producers that sooner or later will snap.

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    10. Re:Why is this on /. by operagost · · Score: 2, Insightful
      draw Mickey mouse in any cartoon you'd like
      Mickey Mouse is a registered trademark of Disney; so no, you wouldn't. But you could reprint and sell the movies featuring him.
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  6. because by NoGuffCheck · · Score: 4, Funny

    because pirates are renowned for the quality control.

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    1. Re:because by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ummm... Actually, they usually are.

      The top release groups are very picky about the criteria* they use to evaluate a release that they're going to stick their name on.

      To make sure that nothing gets past their filtering process, they have guys whose sole job it is to Nuke "bad" releases.

      *The wikipedia article only gives you a broad overview. Some release groups are insanely specific about their release and won't accept/distribute anything that doesn't fit within their narrow definition of "good"

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    2. Re:because by raju1kabir · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In Malaysia you buy pirated copies in shops at the mall like normal, and they offer low ($0.50) and high ($2.00) quality, and even let you preview the copy to make sure it's up to your standards.

      Earlier this week the shops in downtown Kuala Lumpur (capital of Malaysia, for those unfamiliar with southeast Asian geography) were shut down by one of those periodic raids, the ones where the cops take all the DVDs they find on the premises and smash 'em up and email some photos to the MPAA. Obviously that's not many, because the guy outside the mall selling the plastic toys that nobody buys has already phoned up to the shops to let them know the police van is looking for a parking spot.

      The shops that sold exclusively movies and TV shows were shuttered up. The ones that also sold pirate software and games were open, but the movie shelves were empty. A few guys were loitering furtively in the corridors of Plaza Imbi (the most grungy and underworldy of the big pirate malls in central KL) with small folders of movies but even there the shops were shut. I ran into one of the shop guys at a restaurant Tuesday night and he made it sound like the raids were their annual holiday leave system.

      Just for fun I tried to find a shop selling legit DVDs but never came across one, except for the always-deserted video sections at Borders and Tower Records. So I guess everyone had to watch shitty Malaysian satellite TV for a few days. The cinemas were packed, but they always are.

      By Wednesday evening, it was back to business as usual for all.

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  7. I don't know what's worse.. by the_skywise · · Score: 5, Funny

    That they're this blatant about their piracy...

    Or that their customer service is better than most "official" DVD publishers.

    1. Re:I don't know what's worse.. by thedletterman · · Score: 2, Funny

      You don't have to go to Shanghai to buy pirated movies, you can pick them up easy enough here in New York City.. three for $10.

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    2. Re:I don't know what's worse.. by dynamo52 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      That they're this blatant about their piracy...

      A friend of mine owns a mastering studio and contracts out large pressings. A few days before the release of the Da Vinci Code, he was contacted by somebody who claimed to have a copy and wanted 10,000 of them pressed as soon as possible.

      Of course, my friend turned him down.

      Judging by TFA, he must have finally found somebody to do it.



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    3. Re:I don't know what's worse.. by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True Story.

      A friend of mine was looking for an original copy of Star Wars on DVD for a movie night. After looking around for a long time, he finally found someone selling a custom version of the trilogy. These are mastered from the lazerdisks, and have been remixed to match the originals as closely as possible. The audio had been re-edited with the original effects, title, etc. They also included four disks worth of bonus material collected from the LD's, VHS editions, Re-releases, TV interviews, holiday edition, etc.

      In short, they sold him the definitive box set that Lucas wouldn't*. The customer support was great. The vid and audio quality was excellent. The extras and menus were nicely polished. And of course none of the people who actually produced or worked on the movie got any money at all.

      *Rumor has it that at the end of 2006, Lucas will be selling a box set of the hexagy, that includes the revised revised special editions plus the original versions of the films as they appeared in theaters. This is great, and would be considered the definitive archival set, except that he's also planning a revised revised revised "definitive" edition on blu-ray for 2007. And after that definitive, final, this-is-really-it edition, they're working on a 3D version. Sigh.

  8. Re:I can't believe... by paulius_g · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Agreed.

    I don't know if the news source can be trusted. And how come a few words that this average salesman said suddenly become news?

    Pirates won't stop pirating movies and their quality always increases. They'll try getting the actual film from the theatres and rip it. Or even yet, get an "internal agent" which would work closely with the movie to leak a copy. Ah, so many possibilities!

    As for the movie itself, I still have to force myself to read the book before watching it.

  9. Disappointed after reading TFTA... by spiritraveller · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was hoping it would say they were editing Da Vinci Code to make it more entertaining.

  10. No right to complain by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Alright, considering that what they're doing is illegal in the first place I don't think they have any right to complain.

    This is like stealing a car and then complaining to the owner that it doesn't have air conditioning.

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  11. Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If the Pirates aren't happy then the Ninjas must be pissed.

  12. In other news... by PainBreak · · Score: 5, Funny

    This Slashdot "news item" was formulated overseas, and we anticipate a more newsworthy post within the next month.

  13. Why is this here? by Distinguished+Hero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only way this story would be newsworthy would be if pirates saw the movie, were unhappy with what they saw, and decided to improve it by reshuffling the scenes around (sort of a Pirate's cut).

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    1. Re:Why is this here? by kponto · · Score: 2, Funny

      Much like my roommate, who edited Twin Peaks to make sense.

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  14. I concarrr by smvp6459 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Arrrr, the post-production value of the film wasn't up to the same quality as other blockbustarrrr book to movie productions; here on the ship we're still parrrrtial to Mastarrrr and Comandarrrr!

  15. ...and a dupe... by PornMaster · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and a duplicate post within a day.

    1. Re:...and a dupe... by BiAthlon · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's not a dupe, it's a pirated version of the first story.

  16. When? by gaanagaa · · Score: 2, Funny

    When did people start "pirating" movies? And they started with DaVinci Code? Are these pirates anti-christian missionaries?

  17. This time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    the guy with the camera is not going to sit behind some chick with a Marj Simpson hair do!

  18. Re:Cmon people! by aero2600-5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Heh, The Pirate Bay has you covered...

    Link

    Aero

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  19. Okay, maybe its not front page material... by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...but it does illustrate a point about the protection of content and the unauthorized distribution of said content. Look, these "pirates" have a copy - crappy though it may be - shortly after the first screening. And they're, apparently, selling (though no number figures are given for volume).

    What is interesting is that the unauthorized distribution chain is well organized enough that a typical time frame can be placed on the "next" release of the film. It speaks volumes about the actual control content producers have on their material.

    In this day of first weekend hits which fizzle or stay on the charts for such a short time, and the inevitable surfacing of the video in the "pirate" channels - both physical and online - is it really advantageous to the bottom line to spread (a) the theatrical release from the home video release by several months and (b) the theatrical release across continents by several months. In an age of essentially world wide communications and market size, and with the ability to distribute and screen content digitally, why not release the films one weekend, and the home version the following Tuesday? Have a blockbuster you think will have staying power and want to try and get a repeat audience? Delay the DVD 2-3 weeks. Get your hype budget right up front, and make sure the patrons who liked the theatrical screening can pick up their own copy before they forget about it.

    All the laws and controls the studios have bought from the various governing bodies in the world won't stop the people who make a living doing this kind of stuff. And, unlike drugs or arms traffiking, we're not talking about societal crimes and social unrest. It's a God damned entertainment flick. Quit trying to constrain these "pirates" with rules they won't abide - beat them at their own game. Get the real discs into stores and into consumers hands before the "pirates" do. Crappy copies are no fun to watch. And I don't know about you folks, but if you've ever tried to get a movie of any decent quality off of the usenet you know it can be a royal pain. Quite honestly, it's not worth my time to futz with it if I can have Amazon deliver it to my door for $15. And I pay for good usenet access, so my dowloads are easy and fast. Provide the goods and take away their business and reason for being. Sure, you'll still have to deal with the snot-nosed teens who pirate stuff for the thrill, but those folks aren't going to be buyers (by and large). Write them off.

    FWIW, I have unauthorized copies of Star Wars (IV), The Little Mermaid, and (on VHS) Song of the South. I have since purchased Ep. IV, though it had been out for a while (heck, I already "bought" a copy, right?). TLM is "in the vault". I couldn't purchase one from Disney if I wanted to, so some Malaysian pirate got my $20 - I'm claiming fair use since I own the VHS (with the phallic cover, no less). SotS will "never be released", though having watched it I can't quite figure out why. The NAACP has nothing to worry about in the portrayal of of the slaves, but caucasians should be appalled at the portrayal of the plantation owners in the film.

    IMHO, the movie cartel actually keeps these shady shops in business. That's what the story really is.

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  20. Remember "The Phantom Edit"? by Animats · · Score: 2, Funny

    A few years back, someone re-edited "The Phantom Menace", and called it The Phantom Edit. Some people thought it was an improvement over the original. About 20 minutes of Jar-Jar was cut, which didn't hurt.

  21. Re:Sadened by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Judging from the e-mail address on the submitter's name, I'm guessing the point of the article is actually a political statement meant to make the RIAA/MPAA look stupid for (a) their obsession with DRM and (b) suing file sharers when actual for-profit pirates are so brazen.

  22. Re:Sadened by tftp · · Score: 2, Funny

    You are sad because the movie has been pirated, or because the movie exists in the first place?

  23. New version by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using (pirated) PC-based video editing software, enterprising movies pirates have issued a new, improved version of the Da Vinci code. A plot summary follows:

    Middle-aged Harvard professor Robert Langdon is giving a lecture in Paris when he is confronted by a police detective, who shows him a picture of a man who has been murdered in a gruesome fashion. Langdon, who has been living in an airport terminal, takes off in search of the holy grail, which has been stolen by a young Leo di Caprio. A gratuitous time warp takes him back to WWII to save Matt Damon from being killed by Nazis. Returning to the present, a slingshot around the moon reveals his presence to vengeful mobsters, who are unimpressed by his skill at ping-pong and shrimping. Escaping from them via Fed-Ex cargo plane only leads him to a close encounter with a volcano and a young Meg Ryan, with whom he has a cheesy and banal romance that only a woman could appreciate. With a newfound attitude towards the fairer sex he agrees to coach a group of weepy baseball players, but mysteriously, without even sleeping with any of them, he contracts AIDS and dies. But that doesn't stop our hero. He returns from the dead, bangs a mermaid, and brings joy to millions of kids before returning back to Paris where he started, which makes you wonder why the hell he left in the first place.

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  24. Re:Sadened by bitt3n · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am truely sadened that this made it onto Slashdot. Are we openly praising these people? I have digitally edited your post for the better quality appreciation by the consumer market: ARR!1! Ye murderous pirating trolls would befoul the pristine intellectual spaceways of ye noble Dot, will ye?! Ye scoundrels deserve no less of an intergalactic keel haulin' than the scrofulous scallywags of the HMS Digital Millenium Falcon herself!! yar!

  25. that's how it is in China by Lalo+Martins · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here in Beijing, there are CD/DVD shops pretty much on every block, and in none of then can you find "legal" products, at least not for non-Chinese stuff. In any place with lots of pedestrian traffic, you'll find "street merchants" with boxes full of DVDs. Stores that carry "legal" imported DVDs are quite hard to find, if you really want them.

    Movies that are showing in the theatres will usually be in the stores a few days *earlier* than in the theatre; most often, they won't show in the theatres at all. And a few weeks later (about two weeks after the theatre premiere), you'll have the decent-quality DVDs, although those second-batch disks are typically either sans subtitles, with subtitles copied from some other random movie, or really bad "all your base" subtitles. The third batch are the actual DVD copies that come usually a few days before the "legal" DVDs are released in the rest of the world.

    If you're a good customer, and the second batch is expected at some point in this same week, the clerk will sometimes even tell you, "no buy this, the better quality come tomorrow".

    The Shanghai poster neglected to mention prices. A regular DVD costs an average 10 yuan, 15 or 20 if it comes in a box rather than envelope (not so much for the box, but because these are usually slightly better). A DVD9 ranges from 20 to 40 yuan. One USD = 8.14 yuan.

  26. Good post by @madeus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A good post, and all too accurate sadly. The post about DSL/Cable hogging is quite relevant too I thought (it certainly annoys me for many of the same reasons).

    It seems it's always okay to use as much bandwidth as you possibly can or to copy media as you like, but it's not okay when it's your bandwidth or your software that's being abused.

  27. Re: Foucault's Pendulum by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm glad somebody else noticed that. I got about 40 pages into the "Code", then realized that I've already read this story before, only the last time it wasn't written by some Crichton-wanna-be hack. And then of course they had to get Ron Howard to direct...

  28. The way it is in China by DumbSwede · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Having just gotten back from China I can tell you that ANYTHING you want on DVD is available for a BUCK. High Quality packaging and everything with FBI warnings and disclaimers in place. They use to just make VCDs that everyone had players for, then they went to DVD-5 and compressed the quality of some movies a bit. Now they rip full DVD-9 and market it as DVD-9 or HDVD. The "Broke Back Mountain" rip I saw (my wife made me watch it with her, BTW BORING!) had the "For Academy Viewing Only" disclaimer scroll across the screen about 3 times, but he quality was great. In Guangzhou lot of people have 50+ inch plasma Hi-Def TVs. I'm sure they will pirate Blu-Ray when it comes out. I saw lots of PSPs in use while I was there.

    I was sorely tempted to snap up DVDs for bootlegging before coming back home but resisted.

    I'm not sure I have much of a point other than piracy is here to stay in China. Copy-protection won't matter one wit because it is done by professionals with the equipment to do it right, and it is so firmly a part of the society I don't know anyway you could stop it if you really tried. I for one like the fact that if things become too draconian here stateside I always have a source that can hook me up in the East.

    1. Re:The way it is in China by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Having just gotten back from China I can tell you that ANYTHING you want on DVD is available for a BUCK.

      Yes, that goes for DVD recordables too.

      Seriously, what makes China that different? Piracy is rampant pretty much everywhere. It's just that pirated material is sold there. Good for those who're lazy enough, but I can't say it's hard to let a computer stay on over the night and spend a few minutes burning your own high quality pre-release DVD.

      In Guangzhou lot of people have 50+ inch plasma Hi-Def TVs.

      Yes, so? People have that in Sweden (where you come from?) too...? My sister has one for example. Hardly shocking. Well, it is if you believe all of China still are some kind of poor population, but that's not really the case anymore.

      I'm sure they will pirate Blu-Ray when it comes out.

      Yes, and I'm sure that will also be distributed to homes via BT sites too.

      As you're a Swede, you already know we have very cheap 100 Mbps connections over here, with The Pirate Bay going strong, so only the sky is the limit as for pirated material here if that's what you wish to do. No need to travel and impress yourself by going to China?

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    2. Re:The way it is in China by bayankaran · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Copy-protection won't matter one wit because it is done by professionals with the equipment to do it right, and it is so firmly a part of the society I don't know anyway you could stop it if you really tried."

      I am not Chinese. But you made a wild unsubstantiated statement.

      Developing economies like India and China has official versions of audio-visual content priced very high. Last I checked an official DVD of a typical Hollywood film goes for USD8 and above in both the countries. This is equivalent to paying $80 and above in US for the DVD of a feature film. Will an American buy if a DVD costs $80? You will try to get your fix illegaly.

      Remember watching a film in theaters costs anywhere from 50 cents to 1.5 dollars in these countries.

      So rather than going for the "volume" will bring profits approach, the industry associations and producers go for "ours is a luxury item" approach.

      Between, I make films - you do a search on my ID and you will find films made by myself - so I know a bit of what I am talking about.

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  29. 5 yuan = bad quality by McDull · · Score: 2, Informative

    If the reported paid only 5 yuan, he could only get a pirated CD with bad quality. For a better one, or some people say, "the copy of the legal copy", you need to pay 7 to 12 yuan, depending on your bargain skills.

  30. davinci code by achacha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It wasn't even a good movie, couldn't they at least wait for X-Men 3.

    This does bring up an interesting point, RIAA and MPAA are so busy suing average folk in the US that they don't really make any serious efforts against the huge pirates in China. Chinese pirates will continue to go about ripping off movies and software because the Chinese government would rather side with its people than some evil foreign capitalist organization.

  31. Why the fuck? by d_jedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why the fuck is slashdot giving these scumsucking leeches who illegally profit off the hard work of others recognition?

    This sort of shit really pisses me off.. why the fuck did China gain admittance into the WTO with this appalling shit going on? They're not even hiding the fact that this is going on..

    Sorry for the profanity, but this really makes me angry..

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  32. Re:Sadened by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes. As long as the movie companies maintain a monopoly on the industry, and continue to set prices artificialy high, I'll give props to anyone who rips them off.

  33. I DON"T believe... by Potor · · Score: 2, Informative
    ... the story in the first place.

    Having lived in SE Asia until quite recently, and having seen high quality copies of everything from the Incredibles to SW 3 weeks before they hit the cinema, I am certain that high quality boots are available of DvC.

    My guess is that he choose the wrong vendor.

  34. am i the only one... by smash · · Score: 2, Interesting
    ... who initially parsed this as the idea that the pirates were going to edit the footage and get rid of some of the long-windedness?

    I've read all the dan brown books, but from what I've heard of the movie, it's quite tedious.

    smash.

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  35. Pirate Update by artemis67 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Reportedly, the new version will have more action in it. And more humor. And more romance. And more puzzles. And they are going to give the protagonist a sidekick for more comic relief. Oh, and the pursuit of our heroes by the bad guys won't mysteriously drop off in the third act.

    In fact, the pirate update has already been available for a while.

  36. Re:Sadened by Tango42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Movie companies are the only people making movies? Who would have thought it...

    A monopoly is ONE company, not an entire industry. Nobody has a monopoly on movies. You might complain that there's price fixing going on, but that has nothing to do with a monopoly.

  37. Dan Brown's writing style by totallygeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I cannot read. Let me say that my attention span causes me to skim pages, skip words, go back and forth. Because of this, I end up reading with no comprehension if something goes more than a few pages. Character development is difficult for me to follow. Along comes Dan Brown with a writing style that has short chapters, little descriptive notation, etc. He has been criticized for his writing style, but I find it easy to follow. Admittedly, I listened to the 13-CD audio book for Da Vinci Code, but I read Angels and Demons and Point Deception (?) (the meteorite book). I can pretty much only read a Stephen King novel if I have seen the movie, but I can start and finish a Brown novel without difficulty. I did not finish Digital Fortress because I lost interest in the story.

    Inaccurate information is what good stories are all about. I doubt there are many that bitched about the Indiana Jones trilogy for similar reasons. I enjoyed watching National Treasure, which was rife with errors. Any science fiction film -- don't get me started. For us computer nerds, I enjoyed many movies with tons of errors: Virus, Wargames, Sneakers, Lawnmower Man, etc. I think some people need to lighten up and enjoy a story every so often. Da Vinci Code is a work of fiction, building on convenient coincidences and half-truths. That statement describes half the history books I have read in the past.

    Can't we all just get along?!?!