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AT&T Accidentally Leaks NSA Suit Information

op12 writes "CNET has an article describing how AT&T accidentally leaked sensitive information involving the NSA lawsuit. From the article: 'AT&T's attorneys this week filed a 25-page legal brief striped with thick black lines that were intended to obscure portions of three pages and render them unreadable. But the obscured text nevertheless can be copied and pasted inside some PDF readers, including Preview under Apple's OS X and the xpdf utility used with X11. The deleted portions of the legal brief seek to offer benign reasons why AT&T would allegedly have a secret room at its downtown San Francisco switching center that would be designed to monitor Internet and telephone traffic. The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which filed the class action lawsuit in January, alleges that room is used by an unlawful National Security Agency surveillance program.""

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  1. DMCA anyone? by MarkByers · · Score: 5, Funny

    But the obscured text nevertheless can be copied and pasted inside some PDF readers, including Preview under Apple's OS X and the xpdf utility used with X11.

    Looks like Slashdot is informing readers how to avoid document protection mechanisms. I hope you don't get sued under the DMCA!

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    1. Re:DMCA anyone? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2, Funny

      DMCA wins.

  2. Oh crap by Intron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now xpdf will be banned under the DMCA.

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  3. Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by BrynM · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From TFA:
    Lawyers for the Justice Department have offered to fly a courier from Washington to San Francisco with classified documents that Walker could review in private--documents that, in the eyes of the government, will convince him to dismiss the lawsuit. (The Bush administration also argues that EFF lawyers should not be permitted to see the classified information.)
    I can just imagine what's in those documents... "here's a picture of your granddaughter next to one of our agents at school... here's a picture of your toothbrush - I wonder what's on it... Here's a picture of your wife sitting at home masturbating thinking she was alone (heh)... Here's a picture of you and your secretary."

    Sorry, but with this administration, it's hard not to assume some underhanded strong-armin^^^^^ persuasion.

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    1. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by packetmon · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Cryptome has had copies of these documents for some time (about a week). You should take some time to read them. This gentleman falls in line with Michael Lynn who lost his job for disclosing Cisco's flaws. With the government wanting to monitor everything and its mother, I think it serves them right to have the truth exposed. If you'd like an interesting read, read on:

      mass surveillance of the entire population is logically plausible if NSA's domestic spying is not looking for terrorists, but looking for something else, something that is not so rare as terrorists. For example, the May 19 Fox News opinion poll of 900 registered voters found that 30% dislike the Bush administration so much they want him impeached. If NSA were monitoring email and phone calls to identify pro-impeachment people, and if the accuracy rate were .90 and the error rate were .01, then the probability that people are pro-impeachment given that NSA surveillance system identified them as such, would be p=.98, which is coming close to certainty (p_1.00). Mass surveillance by NSA of all Americans' phone calls and emails would be very effective for domestic political intelligence.

      But finding a few terrorists by mass surveillance of the phone calls and email messages of 300 million Americans is mathematically impossible, and NSA certainly knows that. The Politics of Paranoia and Intimidation
      Anyhow, here's an unredacted excerpt:

      In January 2003, I, along with others, toured the AT&T central office on Folsom Street in San Francisco -- actually three floors of an SBC building. There I saw a new room being built adjacent to the 4ESS switch room where the public's phone calls are routed. I learned that the person whom the NSA interviewed for the secret job was the person working to install equipment in this room. The regular technician work force was not allowed in the room.
    2. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by Speare · · Score: 4, Funny

      Here's a little "political-cartoon-style" diagram I put together a week ago on this topic: http://halley.cc/2006-05-16.hidden.agenda.jpg

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    3. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by packetmon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wow... Six degrees of separation. Let me tell you what recently happened to me after getting a new phone number in my house... Seems the previous user of this number had credit issues up the wazoo... So let's ponder me getting a number that was used by a terrorist. Should I be labeled guilty by association. Your arguments on this are rather weak. There is no algorithm for determining which communication a terrorist is going to use. After all this same administration touts that the wily terrorists are using crypto. If they are then all arguments of tapping for the sake of weeding out terrorism are flushed down the drain.

      What's next? How about a third reich like system where they allocate an entire demographic region, send all the arabs there and figure out who is who. Would that allay fears? This country is turning into the third reich slowly with their psychological crapaganda getting intermixed with politricks.

      [sil@memnon /usr/home/sil]$ which terrorist
      [sil@memnon /usr/home/sil]$ finger terrorist
      finger: terrorist: no such user
      [sil@memnon /usr/home/sil]$ whereis terrorist
      terrorist:
      [sil@memnon /usr/home/sil]$ find $STATE terrorist | xargs grep -i terror
      Right...
    4. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by packetmon · · Score: 5, Informative
      You're wrong. FACT #1: Novak wrote the column. Cheney and Libby Scooter leaked it to him, read the court documents and get your information correct. FACT#2 Cryptography such as PGP is unbreakable as it is known. Assume? We know the breakdown of that term. FACT#3 If the NSA should decide to sniff encrypted traffic, and if by slight chance they had enough disk space and time to break the message, chances are, within the amount of time needed to break the encryption, an act of terrorism would have been acted out making their sniffing worthless. Takes time to break codes so I suggest you read up on the problems of cracking codes (A Tutorial on Linear and Differential Cryptanalysis)

      128-bit encryption: 0.25 sextillion years. That's barebones SSL. PGP with a 4096 bit key? Right...

    5. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by bunions · · Score: 3, Informative
      People tend to clump in certain social networks, and phones calls are a decent way of determining this.

      This is exactly what the NSA is using the records for. No one is sitting there recording 2 billion phone calls a day. They're building a large call graph and using it as an investigative aid.

      http://www.cogitoinc.com/articles/gsn.htm

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    6. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by packetmon · · Score: 2

      So again... Fact someone REPORTED THE NAME OF VALERIE PLAME TO NOVAK. Let me type it in english. Someone reported the name Valerie Plame to NOVAK. Since you dared... 1, 2, 3 (Department of Energy, If left alone, Freeh warned, unbreakable encryption poses a threat to fighting crime through wiretapping., Finally... Case Study of HR 695: The Security and Freedom Through Encryption (SAFE) Act... This is where the government decided to place controls on encryption leaving the US because (guess what...) the government cannot break ciphers as easily as you might think. So when I use the term "Unbreakable Crypto", let me make it clear what I mean... Without the keys its impossible... With the keys... Good luck. It would 1) take too long 2) require more space then there currently is ON THE PLANET 3) by the time they cracked it, it would likely mean nothing.

    7. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by zacronos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You make good points, but here's something else to consider: people tend to clump in social networks when they're not actively trying to avoid such detection. As it has become well-known that examining social networks is a useful technique, you can bet the smart terrorists have taken measures to foil this, and you can also bet the smart terrorists have had tutorials written for the not-so-smart terrorists. While it might still be useful for small-time terrorists, the big boys are most certainly extremely hard to nail down this way.

      So, while I agree with you to some extent, I still have to think that these call records will not produce a lot of results against the targets we are most concerned about. I agree with you that the idea of tracking people who want to impeach Bush is ridiculous... but did you see the article about reporter phone records being used to find leaks? I think social networking would work much better for that task, where the people probably weren't trying as hard to cover their tracks, which is along the lines of what the previous poster was suggesting.

    8. Re:Here's why _you_ should dismiss the case... by Vancorps · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Except that they indeed found one who could have led them to 18 others. Why wasn't the information passed on to law enforement? Didn't the FAA notice the planes weren't exactly on course? Knowing that info wouldn't that have given them enough evidence to order an evacuation? Shooting the planes down would have probably been very unlikely for reasons I imagine are obvious.

      Seems to me like there is already too much fragmentation going on. They need to be able to pass info to the people that can make a difference. As long as they can't do that then they've no business collecting even more information which will be mishandled even further.

      I know what you saying, break the info apart but what if a seedy character had my phone number before me? Does that mean I'm under surveillance and instantly labeled a terrorist? This doesn't work because the information obtained is ineffective. If they suspect someone in particular then they can tap that individual line. If they suspect 20 people surrounding it are involved then yes indeed they can be tapped as well, that is reasonable and probable cause. Doing this to every phone is pointless and a huge waste of resources which could be devoted to analyzing the data they already have and then notifying the people that will make a difference. If you're going to change the law for the NSA make it so they can legally pass the info on to the FBI and local law enforcement. That is all that is required and far less invasive.
  4. room 101 by robinesque · · Score: 2, Funny

    The secret room is room 101.
    Duh.

    1. Re:room 101 by Bryan_W · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought it was 404

  5. Proactive protection... by Volante3192 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, if there really are...
    benign reasons why AT&T would allegedly have a secret room at its downtown San Francisco switching center
    then why did...
    the Bush administration [submit] a 29-page brief that elaborates on its argument that the case should be tossed out of court because of the "state secrets" privilege?

    Seems like if they didn't do anything illegal they have nothing to fear.

    1. Re:Proactive protection... by Raenex · · Score: 2, Informative
      The US government has generally been OK with encryption, more or less.

      No, they really don't like it. They really want to listen in. The Clipper Chip was proposed by the Clinton administration.

  6. What's amazing is by thealsir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That the US as a whole doesn't seem to give a shit about this. Look at the results of polls. Ranges from general aloofness to "it's good for National Security(TM)." Look at T's stock price. Huh, normally a company with such an incriminating lawsuit wielded against it would take at least somewhat of a hit in price (though the markets ARE very wierd right now). It seems that the techie crowd are the very small minority of folks who actually care that their phone calls were tracked without ANY precedent in the first place. We're not talking warrantless tracking, we're talking completely random warrantless tracking. What was the saying in Rome? Feed the masses and give them entertainment, and you can do anything to them.

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    1. Re:What's amazing is by slashes · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I totally agree to what you're saying. Their stock has NOT taken too much of a hit admist all of this controversy. But I do think there are other people, not just us 'techies' who actually do care what's happening. What I find funny about all this is how AT&T still denies that the room had anything to do with the NSA program. I mean, honestly, who in here DOESN'T THINK they were eavesdropping? I think they knew perfectly what was going on, what was happening, and how this was illegal.

    2. Re:What's amazing is by QuantumRiff · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The population as a whole can not conceptialize the power of correlated data. They see shopping "club cards" and see that they get a better price. They watch "24", and see that the bad guys are caught cause their license plates are pulled up in 5 seconds (all bad guys drive their own vehicles, of course!).. they see stoplight cams taking pictures of license plates as making the streets safer..

      We geeks deal with data every day. We understand that patterns can be drawn from it, often very incorrect patterns based off of incomplete data.

      The non-geeks cannot comprehend that in the next very few short years, they will get a knock on the door, and the police will say, On Thursday, at 8am, you shopped at the grocery store on 10th street, bought a bunch of bannana's and some milk. 20 minutes later, you were seen driving buy at 3MPH over the speed-limit on this street, which is only 5 minutes from the grocery store. You had better account for exactly what you did during that 15 minutes, because we are placing you under arrest for a crime that was commited in that area at that time. We also see that you have called your nephew 3 times in the last month, who was served 6 months (several years ago) in jail for an assault. And you give money to the ACLU, which makes our job harder.

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    3. Re:What's amazing is by rbochan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That the US as a whole doesn't seem to give a shit about this....

      The US government must think that Americans are lazy, brainless sheep who will shut out even the most obvious evidence that criminals are running the country. I mean seriously, only the most idiotic... Oh look! American Idol is on!

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    4. Re:What's amazing is by iminplaya · · Score: 5, Interesting
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  7. When will they learn? by cdavies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I swear, I've heard about so many instances of this exact same attack, I stop feeling sorry for the idiots who are surely going to get fired for this.

    If it's not people who don't really understand how postscript works, it's people who don't realise those 4MB word files contain more than just the visible part of the document....

    1. Re:When will they learn? by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ever think that somebody was "stupid" on purpose in order to leak the information without going to jail? After all, assuming that they haven't had training in computer security and the specific software in question (after all, who is actually trained to create PDFs?), a prosecutor have a hard time proving that they should have known better.

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  8. Dumb and dumber.... by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every educated person should now know that black bars in PDF do not remove what is under them. There were several high-profile cases in the press by now.

    In addition, do these people not employ any security experts that tell them how to do this right? Making clean (text) documents is really easy: Export to ASCII, remove text, import as ASCII. But obviously this low-tech approach needs a qualified high wizard of computing today.

    Not that I mind that these amoral scum got bitten.

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    1. Re:Dumb and dumber.... by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That destroys the formatting and makes your work look very unprofessional. There are better ways to redact information from a PDF.

      The biggest problem is that it's a paradigm shift for these people and they're not ready for it. The "Black Bars" always worked with regular documents, but when they were forced (against their will) to switch to electronic documents many people tried to find ways to make all of their old procedures work with the new format. This always happens when you force people to switch to technologies they're not comfortable with, and throughout history has been an enormous source of lost productivity and security leaks. The kind of people who are making these mistakes aren't the kind of people who read Slashdot, they're the ones that are thankful when they can finally go home every night and get away from those godforsaken computers for the rest of the day.

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    2. Re:Dumb and dumber.... by (H)elix1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not that I mind that these amoral scum got bitten.

      But did they? I mean, if I wanted to sow disinformation, hiding something with the intent it might be found is a great way to it.

      (/me double checks tinfoil hat... and peeks outside for black helicopters)

  9. Why are they suing AT&T? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You think they would sue the ones actually responsible for making this all happen, you know, the fucking government?

      Suing AT&T really misses the point...

    1. Re:Why are they suing AT&T? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Suing AT&T really misses the point...

      No, it tells companies that the government isn't the only one they should fear.

    2. Re:Why are they suing AT&T? by DragonWriter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      AT&T is the one prohibited by law from providing this information; the government isn't prohibited from receiving it, though they are prohibited from seizing it.

      So they are suing the people that broke the law.

      Plus, of course, sovereign immunity makes it difficult to sue the government unless it voluntarily decides to let you.

    3. Re:Why are they suing AT&T? by deblau · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You think they would sue the ones actually responsible for making this all happen, you know, the fucking government?

      Under settled principles of sovereign immunity, the United States, as sovereign, is immune from suit, save as it consents to be sued. United States v. Dalm, 494 U.S. 596, 608 (1990) (internal quotes omitted). A necessary corollary of this rule is that when Congress attaches conditions to legislation waiving the sovereign immunity of the United States, those conditions must be strictly observed, and exceptions thereto are not to be lightly implied. Block v. North Dakota, 461 U.S. 273, 287 (1983).

      Point me to a statute that explicitly recognizes the right of a private citizen to bring suit against the NSA for this kind of thing, and then we'll continue the discussion. (The Fourth Amendment might be used, in conjunction with Article III section 2 and 28 U.S.C. 1331 or 28 U.S.C. 1346(a)(2), but there's a tricky issue of standing to be resolved. Without at least some evidence of the NSA spying on the plaintiff individually, there's no way to support a claim of actual injury, and the case will be dismissed on a Rule 12(b)(6) motion.)

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  10. This "leak" is intentional. by jthill · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a multinational corporation with its global reputation on the line, not some band of trolls that can't abide sunlight. They have very, very smart people running their response. Their bland, everything's-fine, "we're just innocent li'l good boys doing what we should" arguments aren't even remotely plausible candidates for secret filings. It's a dodge, meant to convince the people who want to trust them and divert the ones who don't.

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    1. Re:This "leak" is intentional. by Exatron · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just because they're smart doesn't mean that they can't make stupid mistakes.

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  11. You see? by cno3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is what happens when you outsource your redacting responsibilities to overseas contractors.

  12. Amazingly Sloppy by flooey · · Score: 4, Informative

    Considering they're apparently working with the NSA, it's amazing they were this sloppy. If you've ever seen an NSA release of a classified document that's been scrubbed, it's always very clear that it's either a document that someone has physically overwritten with a black marker and then scanned (such as here), or a document that was edited on a computer, printed out, and then scanned back in again (such as here). They do that precisely so there's no traces of old information left in there. I'm surprised they didn't lend their trick to AT&T.

    1. Re:Amazingly Sloppy by Kaenneth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The NSA has really strong document rules. Any kind of photographic film, electronic device, so much as a furbie isn't allowed in their work areas, they have multiple sets of telephones, to keep the secret and very secret stuff separate. along with lie detector tests, and background investigations of their employees (not just pulling a credit/criminal records, they send people to talk to employees 1st grade teachers...) very little could get through.

  13. Remember when Patriots died for Freedom? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But now we just let them spy on us, arrest us without warrants, ship American citizens off to foreign prisons to be tortured for years without any formal charges, and turn the Constitution into confetti for their personal profit.

    That said, the NSA has never been that legal, from a constitutional view, but noone is willing to challenge their existance, most likely due to fear or threat of tag teams of government lawsuits, IRS audits, and other tricks used by those who wish America to live in Fear.

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  14. Heavy Underlining by DrNoNo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anybody thinks that this stuff was ruled over? It's very heavy underlining I tell you. Ok, it is so heavy, it covered the text, but it did its task and got it onto /.

  15. Plausible bullshit. by way2trivial · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not the first time 'redacted' pdf's when 'uncovered' have led to increase the defensive position of the group who supplied the 'poorly' protected document.

    I recall a redacted PDF from italy that 'supported' the US gov'ts claims at the time..

    it's too damn convenient, if the redacted portion had been damming.. I'm sure the doc would have been on paper, with the blocked portions cut out... not blacked over with a sharpie.

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  16. Re:Extraordinary rendition? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The problem is that, short of a revolution or coup, there's nothing we would be able to accomplish. Gone are the days when government was for the people... now they're for themselves and the businesses that line their pockets. You may say we live in a democracy and can simply voice our opinions with our votes. Try again. Elections are decided by an audience way too suceptible to infomercials and mudslinging ad campaigns paid for by the companies with the most money... the candidate/company with the most money, has the most influence and thus the easiest task of brainwashing the mindless American public. In other words, we're Rome waiting to crumble.

  17. What the lawyers hid from you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those who cannot read the redacted pdf brief online, here are the parts in bold italics that the lawyers did not want you to read.
    Plaintiffs contend that the Klein Declaration is itself sufficient to make out a prima facie case on their statutory claims. But even if one focused only on the two claims as to which plaintiffs make any argument, the Court could not determine the validity of those claims without first evaluating information covered by the government's state secrets assertion. Plaintiffs' suggestion that they need only show that certain communications have been split off into a "secret room" strips multiple elements from the statutes on which their claims are based and glosses over numerous issues that would have to be explored if their claims were ever to be fully litigated.

    AT&T cannot confirm or deny any of the facts on which plaintiffs' complaint is based. But it is certain that the Klein Declaration and its associated exhibits are insufficient to demonstrate any illegal conduct by AT&T. Plaintiffs offer no evidence regarding what, if anything, actually happens to any data once it allegedly enters the alleged "secret room." Plaintiffs' purported expert provides merely "suggestive" configurations between unknown equipment in an AT&T facility. See Declaration of J. Scott Marcus In Support of Motion for Preliminary Injunction (Dkt. 32) 74. His strongest opinion, explicitly based "in terms of media claims" is conditioned entirely on a supposition: "if the government is in fact in communication with this infrastructure." Id. 39. Plaintiff's purported expert, of course, has no knowledge whether this is true or not.

    Even accepting their allegations as true, plaintiffs' declarations fail to establish their claims. Key factual issues that bear directly on the viability of their legal claims and AT&T's defenses are subject to the Government's state secrets assertion and are unavailable. Without either confirming or denying the plaintiffs' assertions, AT&T notes that the facts recited by plaintiffs are entirely consistent with any number of legitimate Internet monitoring systems, such as those used to detect viruses and stop hackers. Although the plaintiffs ominously refer to the equipment as the "Surveillance Configuration," the same physical equipment could be utilized exclusively for other surveillance in full compliance with the terms of FISA - which even the plaintiffs themselves would not contend is unlawful. See id. 40 ("The SG3 Configurations could be used for a number of legitimate purposes."). The mere existence of these so-called configurations, even if plaintiffs' allegations were accurate, would not by itself be prima facie evidence of what - if any - information is intercepted or divulged or by whom. And it certainly is not prima facie evidence of any illegality. Plaintiffs fail to establish even a prima facie case that there has been an "interception" of "contents" within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. 2510(4) & (8), whether there has been "electronic surveillance" within the meaning of 50 U.S.C. 1801(f), and whether particular statutory exemptions do not apply, see, e.g., 18 U.S.C. 2702(c). Certainly nothing compels the inference that the contents of communications of "millions of ordinary Americans," (Motion for Preliminary Injunction (Dkt. 30) at 11), have been divulged to the government, in contradiction of the government's statement that communications are intercepted only if the government has "a reasonable basis to conclude that one party to the communication is a member of al Qaeda," or otherwise affiliated with al Qaeda. Press Briefing by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and General Michael Hayden, Plaintiffs' Request for Judicial Notice (Attachment 2) (Dkt. 20).
  18. Re:Extraordinary rendition? by barefootgenius · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Thank you for your reply. I'm still pretty angry about this and after getting moderated as flamebait (probably correctly), I'm going to cancel my Slashdot account in disgust. If I had the money, I would come over and protest myself but the only money I have is currently negative. Instead I have sent a letter to our PM, as follows;

    Dear Prime Minister,
    I have just read about extraordinary rendition on an online forum. This is a practice where the American government sends suspects overseas for interrogation and imprisonment. This practice is seen as a way of circumventing their obligations under the United Nations Convention Against Torture. If cases such as these are presented in an American court they are dismissed by the administration on "State Secrets" grounds.
    In view of this I would like to ask the Prime Minister to;
    *Assure me that we are in no way an accomplice, indirectly or directly, to this practice.
    *Investigate these rumors for evidence.
    *Act upon any evidence obtained.
    I realise that America is the most powerful country in the world currently, but at the same time I don't think any moral person of our country would justify that as grounds for turning a blind eye to torture.
    Yours sincerely, .

    I doubt that will have any effect, but who knows, maybe she has received a thousands more like it. Good luck, I hope things improve for you. If it gets to bad, you will more than likely be welcome at this end of the world. We aren't totally screwed up in N.Z. yet (just a touch). Its a pity, America once epitomized hope for me. I believed in it standing for freedom, rights, humanity. When Neil Armstrong said, "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind." I believed he meant for mankind. When I visited Los Angeles as a teenager, I liked the people. They were helpful and friendly....just good people. I still believe that most Americans are good people. At some point though, you have to stand for what you believe in or you will lose it. Even if you find it was a lie, it is still better to know.

    Over the past five years my impressions of America have been destroyed by the actions of its government both at home and on the world stage. After reading Slashdot over the past year, there was a brief moment of hope that there were people still willing to lay down their comforts for the ideals expressed in your constitution. It seems now that Slashdot is a place were people say they stand for certain ideals, but the saying of it is enough for them. It is not enough for me.

    Goodbye, good luck. BarefootGenius.
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  19. Actual Contents of Secret Room by Analogy+Man · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From the decoded text the following here are the contents of this and other secret rooms:

    • A massive stockpile of red Swingline staplers
    • Jimmy Hoffa (NSA got to the horse ranch first...oh how they'll laugh at the Christmas party)
    • Massive stash of Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft "home movies" from Frisco area bath house during W's coke days
    • Osama and 72 virgins
    • Geraldo Rivera
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  20. Re:It's not this admin, liberal JFK spied on ML Ki by evilviper · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Excuse me, *this* administration. You lost quite a bit of credibility on that one. *Any* administration can do such things. Read up on President John F Kennedy and Attorney General Robert Kennedy's surveilance of Martin Luther King.

    Excuse me, *Kennedy*. You lost quite a bit of credibility on that one. Read up on FISA and specifically what year it was enacted.
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  21. Re:It's not this admin, liberal JFK spied on ML Ki by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What JFK did or did not is irrelevant because, at the time, wiretapping-at-will was legal. Telephone conversations were not considered private at the time (you know, with manually operated switchboards, crosstalk, reconnections, you could not reasonably expect your conversation to be private. Kinda same way as if you screw your wife in the park, then sue the city for 'violating your privacy': there is no expectation of privacy at the setting.

    NOW, since 1978, due to Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/ warrantless spying on Americans became illegal.

    To be fair, Clinton had tried same shit, but was bitchslapped back into behaving... because warrantless spying was illegal since 1978! ... that was back when we had REAL conservatives.

    With Bush, REAL conservatives turned into kookservatives, the general public is happy with 9/11 excuse...

    Q: Why did we invade Iraq, W?
    A: terrorism

    Q: why do you torture people?
    A: 9/11

    Q: why does the gas cost $4?
    A; bin Laden

    Q: why is the sky blue?
    A: terrorism?

    But hell, people like you know better, people like you know the Truth, people like you have all the answers, even before you hear the question.

    Megadildoes, asshole! Good luck to you with all that.

  22. Don't need anything special. by Transcendent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But the obscured text nevertheless can be copied and pasted inside some PDF readers, including Preview under Apple's OS X and the xpdf utility used with X11.

    Also works with the normal Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 for Windows. No DMCA mumbo-jumbo... whoever did it just had no idea what they were doing.

  23. Part of the politcal defense strategy? by abb3w · · Score: 2, Funny
    Every educated person should now know that black bars in PDF do not remove what is under them.

    FTA:

    "In an ironic twist, the NSA published a 13-page paper in January describing how redactions could be done securely."
    Maybe AT&T is trying to show that they're not just a sock puppet of the NSA. Or maybe the NSA is sneaky enough to try and hide that AT&T is merely a sock puppet.

    Damn, I'm snickering so hard that I can't find my tinfoil....

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    //Information does not want to be free; it wants to breed.
  24. Bullshit statistic by a_greer2005 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just for the record, that stat is bogus, you can vote 5 times per phone line, most people have two phone lines, the only way you can vote 10 times for president is to move to Chicago and die...

  25. NSA itself isn't really the problem. by Polarism · · Score: 3, Insightful

    On the whole, the concept of the agency is great, vital to the nation.

    The problems come in when required legal processes are ignored by the powers that be.

    I feel ashamed to have worked under that agency for a couple of years. What is going on here is against the very mantra they preach to you regarding the performance of your duties. Violating the laws against collection on US Citizens used to be about on the same level as screwing a horse. Now it seems to be quite acceptable, at least by the upper echelon of management.

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    All your base are belong to Google.