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Scientists Blocking out the Sun

Ashtangiman writes to tell us The New York Times is running an article about geoengineering in which many solutions to global warming include decreasing the amount of sunlight that the planet sees. The ideas are not new, many have been around for quite some time, however they have been relegated to the fringes of science and many have never been published because of this. From the article: "Geoengineering is no magic bullet, Dr. Cicerone said. But done correctly, he added, it will act like an insurance policy if the world one day faces a crisis of overheating, with repercussions like melting icecaps, droughts, famines, rising sea levels and coastal flooding."

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  1. One comment. by WesternActor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!

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    1. Re:One comment. by acoster · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heck, even the Angry Beavers did it.

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    2. Re:One comment. by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you'll find that this topic was covered in an episode of Josie & the Pussycats (In Outer Space) several years before the inception of the Simpsons. The gang travelled to a planet with some aliens that wanted to extinguish the sun because it was hurting their eyes. You see, they had these gigantic eyes. The "bubbly blond" character recommended that they wear sunglasses instead. Everyone lived happily ever after and I'm sure a song was sung at some point.

    3. Re:One comment. by hackwrench · · Score: 5, Funny

      And the robots in the matrix thought the blacking out the sun thing was all about them.

    4. Re:One comment. by truthsearch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Uh, how can the very first post be redundant? Anyway...

      Smithers: Well, Sir, you've certainly vanquished all your enemies: the Elementary School, the local tavern, the old age home...you must be very proud.
      Burns: [stuffing money into his wallet] No, not while my greatest nemesis still provides our customers with free light, heat and energy. I call this enemy...the sun.
      Since the beginning of time man has yearned to destroy the sun. I will do the next best thing...block it out!
      [another button raises a shield over the model town]
      Smithers: Good God!
      Burns: Imagine it, Smithers: electrical lights and heaters running all day long!
      Smithers: But Sir! Every plant and tree will die, owls will deafen us with incessant hooting...the town's sundial will be useless. I don't want any part of this project, it's unconscionably fiendish.
      Burns: I will not suffer your insubordination. There has been a shocking decline in the quality and quantity of your toadying, Waylon. And you will fall into line, now!
      Smithers: [pained] No...no, Monty, I won't. Not until you step back from the brink of insanity.
      Burns: I'll do no such thing. You're fired!
      Burns: [laughing] Take that, Bowlerama!
      [stomp] Take that, Convenience Mart!
      [stomp] Take that, Nuclear Power Plan --
      [stomp] oh, fiddlesticks.

    5. Re:One comment. by BakaHoushi · · Score: 3, Funny

      Curses. Well, no big deal. We scientists will just have to go back to our other mission, building a tiny civilization from the bacteria on our teeth. Wait, what? Oh, okay. Then we'll just place a fake angel in an isolated town to simulate how it reacts to the end of the world. Wait, they did that too? Dammit! Well, how about we just go invent chairs that can't tip backwards or an automatic hammer, huh? Oh son of a--

      Screw this, I'm going to Vegas to get drunk and married!

    6. Re:One comment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Heck, even Futurama did it.

      Fry: This snow is beautiful. I'm glad global warming never happened.
      Leela: Actually, it did. But thank God nuclear winter canceled it out.

  2. Alpha Centauri to the rescue! by Kid+Zero · · Score: 4, Funny

    After all, Launch Solar Shade is one of the techs you pick up along the way.

    1. Re:Alpha Centauri to the rescue! by hobbesmaster · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, but we need Advanced Spaceflight first - while I see spaceflight, I certainly don't see Organic Superlubricant...

      Plasma shards would be cool though. Best part of course is that if we increase the shade too much, we can just melt the polar ice caps a bunch!

    2. Re:Alpha Centauri to the rescue! by Col.+Bloodnok · · Score: 2, Funny

      After all, Launch Solar Shade is one of the techs you pick up along the way.

      From the cold, dead corpses of the Morganites. I'll brook no interference in the matter.

  3. "Nothing for you to see here." by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cool, it works! :D

  4. Totally not New by LionKimbro · · Score: 5, Funny

    This idea is totally not new.

    The only problem is, last time we simulated it, humanity ended up enslaved by robots.

  5. If global warming hasn't started yet... by MarkByers · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...then the flamewar from this thread will start it.

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  6. Oh yeah, that's exactly what needs to be done... by Optic7 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We'll be having rave parties 24x7 then. Cue the Matrix soundrack. Where are the hot chicks in post-apocalyptic skimpy outfits? I see these scientists have started using their recreational drugs even before the raves have started!

  7. Great... by Doc+Squidly · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that we might be able to block out the sun, its ok to burn fossil fuels.[end sarcasm]

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  8. Re:and.... by Nesetril · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am worried more about the vampires, who will reign supreme if there is no more daylight.

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  9. Finally... by Tribbin · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... a cure against skin-cancer ... and an increased possibility of slashdotters mating.
    Everybody will be as pale as we are! Yey!

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  10. In other news... by Macdude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Date line Aug. 17th, 2017:

    NASA has confirmed that it was an error converting metric to imperial measurments that caused the death of almost seven billion people and the started our current ice age.

    In other news; Today's high is expected to reach -65 celcius.

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  11. But then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    we'd have to deal with the growing numbers of vampires wandering about.

  12. Number 1 priority by zecg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please don't forget to make it reversable.

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  13. Re:and.... by ozeki · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because evolution is such a speedy process.

  14. Re:Matrix by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Funny

    That was revisionist history. The robots knew tnat sunlight could have given them the energy they needed, and they knew that humans blotted it out. They put two and two together and came to the conclusion that the humans blotted it out to spite them.

  15. Re:Warming by ndansmith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that the most reasonable "something-other-than-humans-caused" global warming hypothesis I've heard so far is that the sun's energy output is increasing, (incindentally, this would also explain Martian global warming, which by some evidence matches terrestrial warming), this seems like exactly the way to go.

    Actually, I am pretty sure that Martian global warming is caused by those two little SUVs we have driving around up there.

  16. Re:Bad Idea . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    You must be a poor parent if your kid thinks like that. Do you live in the US by any chance?

  17. Re: Insane arrogance! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Given that we don't conclusively understand the way the earth works, it strikes me as insanely arrogant to think we can CONTROL the biosphere. We should work on controlling our own (that is, INDIVIDUAL) actions before we try to tell "mother nature" what to do ..

    So, I gather that you don't go for the idea of importing weasels to destroy the snakes that you imported to destroy the frogs that you imported to destroy the flies that you imported to destroy the...

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  18. A few years later.... by caffiend666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    A few years later: Tokyo is 'lost' after the giant sunscreen is blown to earth by solar winds, covering up all of Honshu island... The giant reflective shield blocks out all heat, light, radio signals, air, but conducts elictricity so many are electrocuted. All of the worlds scientists whom built the block would figure out a way to help the dying/freezing/suffocating Japanese but the world is too busy laughing.... Imagine it, most of Japan destroyed by a giant sheet of mylar. Is known to future generations as the Great Tokyo Jiffy-Pop Disaster.

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  19. Re:Warming by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Martian global warming, which by some evidence matches terrestrial warming

    Think of the effects this will have on the Buggalo!

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  20. The Overlords by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2, Funny

    I seem to recall that the Overlords in Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End had this ability. I, for one, welcome our new Overlord overlords.

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  21. And during the testing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    they will suddenly discover that they've invented a Tox Uthat ? ;-)

    Hm, better idea: just skip a few steps and go directly for the totally sci-fi approach:

    Let's build a Dyson Sphere to feed our Matrioshka Brain. :-D

    Hmm.. thinking about this, I think Google's new data center is starting to scare me :O

  22. Highlander Highlander 2 Highlander 3 by MoFoQ · · Score: 2, Funny

    damn it...u had to ruin it for me!
    I was trying to get Keanu's butt out of my mind....thx man...thx.

  23. Re:and.... by Mozk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah those plants and their damn migratory routes.

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  24. Re:Warming by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Funny

    Who gives a shit if humans are causing it. We can't stop being human. The only solution is planetary engineering.

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  25. 3-Day Blinds is having a sale by wardk · · Score: 2, Funny

    these guys can get it delivered to custom size in only 3 days

  26. Re:Heaven forbid... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry, I would rather find a way to make chicks more comforatable about giving head than to just go with out. Finding solutions to keep a life style is always more prefered then to change the lifestyle.

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  27. Oh you missed one by fandog · · Score: 2, Funny

    A: determine honestly to the best of our ability what and when and how ( leaving if on the table ) we humans will be affected. and no dilly dallying or politicing, or hiding heads in sand.

    B: once we know that, decide how we semicollectively want to respond. options seem to include getting us off the earth, and letting it go the way it wants to, while we terraform lifeless ( hopefully ) planets elsewhere, space stations, etc, etc. Or deciding to taylor earth better to our liking ( would not be my first choice ). and think of other strategies.

    C: Put the plan into action, if one is needed.

    D: PROFIT! :)
  28. Here is definitive proof, at last, by GungaDan · · Score: 3, Funny

    that the Simpsons is fully 3 /. mod point points funnier than the Angry Beavers.

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  29. Re:soviet solar scientists by JPribe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nope. The sun has nothing to do with the temperature of the earth. Nothing at all.

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  30. Re:Trees Hug Back by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's not that simple (I'm not going to explain). But I guess you like having simplified looks on things.
    Let me redefine the scenario, in that case: There is a breakable glass sphere. Inside it is a device which, if the glass sphere is broken, will trigger a nuclear bomb(possibly through some wi-fi signal, the exact method of detonation isn't the point here, the effects are, that's why I'm saying you're dodging the issue ). If it falls, you don't pick it up, then throw it to the ground as an 'experiment'. Which is what this sun-blocking is doing.
    Where is the wholesale slaughter in stopping the planet from overheating?
    When all of your green plants die and the CO2 levels rise even more, you won't be asking me that.
    Your reaction the same as people who said 'dont sail too far', because they would seriously be afraid that thought you would fall off the (flat) planet.
    Nobody thought the world was flat since before Aristotle, and in those days, people always sailed near land and were afraid of even being in the middle of the Mediterranean not because they'd fall off but because everyone who did got lost. Columbus wasn't trying to prove the world is round(fscking 3rd-grade-level education) but that the world was smaller than it actually was(He believed the distance between Europe and Asia was around what the actual distance is between Europe and the 'New World'). Now who's oversimplifying things?
    Or (back in the day when they started building trains) the people who were afraid that trains would make the milk in their cows sour.
    I haven't heard anything about that, and a Google search for 'trains sour milk' turned up nothing referencing that. May I please have a source?
    If anything, the closest metaphor would be the very complex issue of developing the nuclear bomb to strike Japan. Except that we already have a good method to fix this which doesn't have the problems a full-scale invasion of Japan would--reduce CO2 emissions and plant more trees. Blocking out the sun will fix global warming the same way a nuclear winter will fix global warming.
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  31. Re:Warming by Intron · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm missing 3 fingers, so I always write numbers in base 7. Really.

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