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Microsoft Ponders Windows Successor

InfoWorldMike writes "Before Vista is even out of the gates, a Microsoft exec was talking Wednesday about Windows' replacement at a VC conference. Speaking at The Venture Forum conference, Microsoft's Bryan Barnett, a program manager for external research programs in the Microsoft Research group, said multicore architectures are of particular interest when weighing what to put in future operating systems at the company. "Taking full advantage of the processing power that those multicore architectures potentially make available requires operating systems and development tools that don't exist largely today," Barnett said. Well, with Vista in the pipeline as long as it has been, you must admit it is not surprising Microsoft is taking the long-term view. And it won't be built overnight: There is no timetable for a Windows successor right now. But early work on this effort has not yet been organized, with five or six small projects afoot in various places throughout the company, Barnett said."

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  1. Child of my Child? by MinutiaeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shouldn't this article instead be from the "twenty-years-too-late" department?

    1. Re:Child of my Child? by mgblst · · Score: 2, Funny

      And that turned out to be Windows 2000, widely considered to be the least crap version of Windows ever.
       
      Oooo, high praise indeed. No need to get all gushy.

  2. DNF by omeomi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nice! I bet it's going to ship with Duke Nukem Forever Part Deux

  3. Oh, well that's easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think Microsoft already knows what to do as a successor to Windows...

    Just wait for Google to show us what a Google OS would look like... then do that.

  4. no more drive letters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    just get rid of drive letters and use forwardslashes instead of backslashes and get rid of the \r\n linefeed crap and voila you have windows +1

  5. Singularity by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny
    Microsoft should release the source for their Singularity OS http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/ under one of their shared source initiatives for study purposes.

    Then maybe a clever student, frustrated because the license won't allow him or her to modify it, will re-impliment a new OS out of Singularity. If they allow a lot of other people to contribute, it could get big really fast...

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  6. Teehee by Rendo · · Score: 1, Funny

    Windows "Eventually"

  7. Re:Know what would be funny? by rifftide · · Score: 2, Funny

    Instead of basing the successor on OS X, maybe MS will come out with Plan X OS

  8. 5 or 6 projects... by Arivia · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does anyone else see a future code merge revealing that the protoypes work off horribly incompatible file systems?

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  9. Re:Know what would be funny? by anaesthetica · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mr. Dvorak, please, it's late. Go back to your column and leave these poor /.ers in peace.

  10. Sucessor to windows? by jkrise · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Blinds.
    2. Gates.
    3. Sunscreens.
    4. Smokescreens.
    5. Chairs.... or rather, Chairs! Chairs! Chairs!!!

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    1. Re:Sucessor to windows? by realkiwi · · Score: 2, Funny

      No they'll try "Doors" and have the same legal problems that Apple does with elderly pop music legends...

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  11. Re:Know what would be funny? by dilvish_the_damned · · Score: 3, Funny

    In all fairness, I am not saying that Microsoft can't do it themselves, I'd just like to see a return to the good 'ol days when Microsoft made good, solid applications and were not trying to be all things to all people.

    Ya, I still reminisce about wire-frame FlightSim as well. Ya, playing that game on the AppleII, MicroSoft was the bomb.

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  12. What they need is a new File System. by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 2, Funny


    Personally, I think it would really r0x0r if the new OS shipped with an object-relational file system that had metadata, and a SQL-esque query syntax, and automated fall-over network distribution and...

    1. Re:What they need is a new File System. by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1, Funny

      That'd be cool. What would they call it, though? Nothing with "Win" in the name if this product is going to be a Windows "successor". Maybe that's it. SucFS. Has a nice ring to it.

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  13. Article Summary - Rewritten... by jkrise · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before Vista is even out of the gates, a Microsoft exec was talking Wednesday about Windows' replacement at a VC conference.
    Gates looked at Vista, and left, holding his nose! Before we let this beast loose on gullible folks, we want to pacify them, saying we're working on a better alternative...

    Speaking at The Venture Forum conference, Microsoft's Bryan Barnett, a program manager for external research programs in the Microsoft Research group, said multicore architectures are of particular interest when weighing what to put in future operating systems at the company. "Taking full advantage of the processing power that those multicore architectures potentially make available requires operating systems and development tools that don't exist largely today,"
    Our policy has always been "Whatever Intel giveth (in speed), Microsoft taketh away!" .. this dual core thing has got us stumped... we're figuring out how to slow things down with dual core.

    Barnett said. Well, with Vista in the pipeline as long as it has been, you must admit it is not surprising Microsoft is taking the long-term view.
    Well... we've taken a long while to build some junk, we've thrown out all useful stuff we promised.. don't worry, we'll keep working harder and longer in similar fashion.

    And it won't be built overnight: There is no timetable for a Windows successor right now.
    WE WON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ANNOUNCING TIME TABLES AGAIN... NEVER, EVER!!! The successor to Windows could come in the next centruy... we won't be there, we won't care, but there's nothing wrong living in hope... We'll announce this non-event, non-timetabled non-initiative in Slashdot though!

    But early work on this effort has not yet been organized
    We are proud to declare that we have NOT YET started this NON-INITIATIVE

    With five or six small projects afoot in various places throughout the company, Barnett said.
    Some five or six groups of disgruntled employees have given up on Vista.... and now, they're talking about joining Google to Build The Successor To Windows...

    Actually, we should've posted this in Ask Slashdot... but we aren't part of the OSDL, and we have our pride.. so we announce it as News for Nerds... Thanks for your suggestions!

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    1. Re:Article Summary - Rewritten... by ggy · · Score: 2, Funny

      .. this dual core thing has got us stumped... we're figuring out how to slow things down with dual core.
      Hey, if you had tested Vista, you would know that they've already figured this one out...

  14. MS... the news of yesterday by l3v1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Taking full advantage of the processing power that those multicore architectures potentially make available requires operating systems and development tools that don't exist largely today

    Marketing is one thing, lying is another. Oh, wait, this is MS.

    I so hate them when they speak about SW and OSes like there would exist nothing nowhere besides Windows. So, no wonder I don't ever like what they say.

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  15. Re:Ozzie the wizard by megaditto · · Score: 2, Funny
    [...]he discovered his passion, which was, as he once put it, to augment relationships among human beings through technology.


    Well, then Ozzie should stay out of Texas. The use of such technological 'devices' is illegal there even for consenting, married adults:
    http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news/2005/03/03/Op inion/Lawmakers.Should.Pull.Out.Of.Sex.Lives-88395 7.shtml
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  16. Re:Know what would be funny? by Kyeo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please don't anthropomorphize Microsoft. It really hates when people do that.

  17. Window Successor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    afaiac, Windows died out years ago. Linux is the king of the hill now.

    Long live Linux!

  18. Yet another discovery by M$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    First they discovered the PC, then they found the internet, now low and behold they have found multicore procesors! What's next, an operating system that doesn't need to be re-booted? Nah, no one has discovered one of those yet, have they?

    Sheeze, why does everything that everyone else has been doing for years suddenly become a revelation when M$ discover it?

  19. Re:Know what would be funny? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

    3. .Net platform is now driven into the heart of the OS. If you have written code in a "managed" environment, you already know why this is better.

    Because it's the only way to insure that the vampire stays dead?

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  20. Re:Know what would be funny? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

    But where did BSD come from ? Was it not just basically a rewrite of the old UNIX V6 ? Itself an evolution of the original UNIX ?

    And was Unix not inspired by MULTICS ?

    Yet there is no trace of MULTICS in Mac OS X...

    Coincidence ? I think not...

    It's a conspiracy I tell you !

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  21. Hello Mr Penguin by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny
    Microsoft Ponders Windows Successor

    Hasn't anyone ever seen an Adam Sandler movie ?!
    It's going to be the biggest slack-assed OS out there that eventually gets a fire lit under its' ass & saves the OS day.
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  22. Re:MS needs to compete against itself by nietsch · · Score: 3, Funny

    AFAIK, gold is twice as heavy as lead, and albatrosses are way more aerodynamically efficient than geese. So the transfer to a lead albatros is to be considered an upgrade. You still need a pretty dense atmosphere for it to be able to fly...

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  23. Re:A successor to Windows by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

    Surely you mean Windows\2 ? ;)

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  24. Re:Know what would be funny? by deadphoenix · · Score: 1, Funny
  25. Sounds like ... by lwriemen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Microsoft should buy OS/2 from IBM.

  26. Re:Know what would be funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    not half of my money. AARR, Matey!