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The Physics of Superman

eieken writes "The physics of Superman mostly belong in the realm of comic books, but some scientists decided to give their input on the matter. The article tells of 'a scientific experiment in which a researcher put several chickens in a centrifuge and raised them in twice-normal gravity for months at a time. When they emerged, the chickens were stronger and had larger bones and muscles, and greater endurance. In other words, they were superchickens.' Do they have human sized centrifuges?"

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  1. For more along the lines of the summary... by Nybarius · · Score: 5, Informative

    see the book "The Physics of Superheroes". It's about exactly what you would expect.

  2. Re:Question... by Blymie · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chickens can fly, they just have their wings clipped to prevent this.

    http://www.omlet.co.uk/guide/guide.php?view=Chicke ns&cat=Chicken%20Care&sub=wing%20clipping

  3. Re:Humping Lois by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    See Larry Niven's Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex

    Basically, since orgasm can be described as a 'pleasurable seizure', Superman would rip Lois apart while blowing the top of her head off.

  4. Re:About Flying by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Informative

    Another must-read on the physics of superheroes is Niven's "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex". Unless you're heavily humour-impared though, please don't read it while dining on a bowl of soup.

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  5. Re:Question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Almost all breeds of chickens (especially domesticated) cannot really fly... at least not like you see pigeons, doves, swallows, etc. fly. It is more of a semi-powered unstable glide and they can only maintain it for relatively short distances.

    The can "fly" just enough to get up into the relatively low branches of trees, over tall fences, gliding down from heights and of course as a method of faster escape at ground level.

  6. Re:Larry Niven by emurphy42 · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. Development of Supermans Powers Over Time by David_Shultz · · Score: 5, Informative

    For anyone interested in the development of Supermans powers as the series progressed, check out this website:

    http://www.johnath.com/~david/etc/superman.html

    As other posters have mentioned, yes, it is true that he started without flying ability -he could leap only one eighth of a mile. The development of his powers is actually quite staggering, going from what nowadays would be a lesser superhero, to being one of the most powerful superheroes in the combined comic book multiverse.

  8. In addition by phorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    I picked up the book "The Science of Superman" some time ago. Not a bad read, and it goes into the details of how Superman's powers might stem from the differential in intensity of the earth/krypton sun, gravity, etc.

    1. Re:In addition by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Informative

      the book "The Science of Superman" some time ago. Not a bad read, and it goes into the details of how Superman's powers might stem from the differential in intensity of the earth/krypton sun, gravity, etc.

      I don't know that book, but I know my superheroes.
      Did the book mention that originally, Supes was from the planet Krypton, where the gravity is 10 times that of earth, and therefore he was super strong and could jump really high, and super tough?

      As the years went by, he had more and more powers added to his repertoir, and so they retconed his origin to that of solar radiations giving him the ability to shoot lasers from his eyes, to fly and to see through objects.

      But at first, he was just a super-strong man, not the god he later turned into.

      P.S. The first time superman flew was to go punch some evil japanese spies that stole a plane.
      P.P.S. And that's when "and the American Way" was added to his list of things he figths for. Ah, propaganda, ain't it just so much fun?

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  9. Re:Question... by KevinIsOwn · · Score: 2, Informative

    My chickens didn't have their wings clipped, and they could still barely fly. They could make it into 10 foot high branches without too much of a problem. They were also incredibly good at evading my attempts to catch them, flying into trees, decks, roofs...

  10. Re:No news... by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Informative
    he idea was that if you fell down on such a planet, you'd better have uber reflexes or you'd break bones in the fall.

    The ultimate high-g planet is the super-jovian Mesklin, in Hal Clement's Mission of Gravity. At the poles it was about 600g. The natives were centipede-like, obviously very strong and fast, but they had no clear idea of "falling". If you dropped something, it disappeared and reappeared on the ground, smashed or squashed flat. More extreme, the astronomer Frank Drake imagined life on a neutron star, based on nuclear reactions rather than chemical, microscopic and extremely fast. Robert Forward did a couple of novels using that idea.

  11. Re:its that time again... by jdbartlett · · Score: 5, Informative

    No, but if you like, you can go through all 10,600 Google results for "welcome our new * overlords":

    http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aslashdot.org +%22welcome+our+new+*+overlords%22

  12. The excerpt from the Great Mambo Chicken book by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to read more details, use the "Inside Book" search on Amazon within the Great Mambo Chicken.

    From the search results link above, visit pages 54 and 55 - the sidebars navigate to the next and previous pages.

    No I have no affilate link in there (that I am aware of) - call me crazy.

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  13. Re:I wonder where you approach the limit..... by naoursla · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually some professional athletes train in low oxygen environments to give them more stamina in normal oxygen environments.

  14. Man of Steel, Larry Niven's take by 0WaitState · · Score: 2, Informative

    No discussion of the Physics of Superman is complete without this analysis of why Superman can't have sex.

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  15. Re:time travel by Zygamorph · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're alluding to the time dilation effect in general and/or special relativity.

    Basically if you are travelling close to the speed of light relative to some other point ( say earth), then time slows down for you relative to the time flow at the other point. The effect is:

    sqrt( 1- ((v**2) / (c**2)))

    Where v is your velocity and c is the speed of light. So if you get really close to the speed of light time slows down for you a lot.

    I'm assuming that when they say comes back in two hours they mean from Superman's time frame and not the earth's.

    Its also sometimes called the twin paradox. Take a pair of twins, put one in a space ship and fly it close to the speed of light in a round trip that ends up back on earth. Their ages are now different even though they both travelled close to the speed of light relative to each other. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox for a better expalanation.

  16. Re:I wonder where you approach the limit..... by fossa · · Score: 2, Informative

    I recently read Human Acclimatization and Adaptation to Stresses. The article explains, unsurprisingly in retrospect, that altitude training has different effects on different people. Some are helped, some remain the same or worsen. But the majority of athletic improvement should be attributed to the other big condition of a high altitude camp: the absence of stresses of normal life. The article also suggested that an athlete often ends up unintentionally training less intensley due do the difficulties of low oxygen. Upon returning to sea level, the athlete is well rested not from any changes due to low oxygen but due to the unintentional taper, and thus improves performance. Another interesting fact mentioned was "with elite athletes, training effects are so specific that there is no beneficial carry-over of circulatory improvements in one activity to another". For example, improvements in running do not translate to improvements in cycling; I'm interested in a more in-depth explanation of that phenomenon.

  17. Re:its that time again... by Gyga · · Score: 3, Informative

    Using slashdot search and ordering by date, and clicking next 30 I got http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?cid=441212 2&sid=41804 on Tuesday October 08, 2002. But it appears to not be the first. Google doesn't show all the results either. The one I link to does follow the simpson quote exactly. (talks of insects)

    A wider search of overlords gives the same post

    This one http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7988&c id=736976 from Monday October 02, 2000 (I think) is linked from wikipedia. It offers apologies to The Simpsons. Wikipedia claims it is the first know use. (talks of fungus)

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  18. Re:Quoth Mitch Hedberg: by soft_guy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dude, grits are corn, not potatoes.

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  19. Re:Question... by packeteer · · Score: 3, Informative

    IHRC (I have raised chickens). Chickens with clipped wings can still make very high jumps when flapping their wings hard. They also can maintain a near verticle glide when jumping off of a high space. Chickens with clipped wings can often jump over fences or most high barriers they just cant maintain flight for extended periods.

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  20. Old news by deathstar778 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Goku and Vegeta already did this a long time ago in DragonBall Z or GT... at 500G.

  21. Human centrifuges by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Do they have human sized centrifuges?

    Yes.

  22. Re:Question... by emandres · · Score: 2, Informative

    If anybody didn't catch the reference, it's referring to Real Ultimate Power.

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