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The Physics of Superman

eieken writes "The physics of Superman mostly belong in the realm of comic books, but some scientists decided to give their input on the matter. The article tells of 'a scientific experiment in which a researcher put several chickens in a centrifuge and raised them in twice-normal gravity for months at a time. When they emerged, the chickens were stronger and had larger bones and muscles, and greater endurance. In other words, they were superchickens.' Do they have human sized centrifuges?"

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  1. Question... by crazyjeremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    But can the superchickens fly now?

    1. Re:Question... by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't these physicist have anything better to do than make super strong dizzy chickens?

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    2. Re:Question... by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 5, Funny
      But can the superchickens fly now?

      Not only can they fly, but they think nothing of beating up Klingon chickens. These chickens are so bad, they'll rip off their drumsticks and smack you upside the head with them. These chickens are so strong, you have to fry them in 40 weight motor oil. These are SERIOUS chickens.

    3. Re:Question... by swillden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Chickens can fly

      Not really. Chickens can fly for very short distances and limited heights. They can get over fences and travel maybe 40 feet at a time. After one such "long" flight, they can barely get off the ground and prefer to run.

      they just have their wings clipped to prevent this.

      Chickens that are kept outdoors in pens without high walls have their wings clipped. I don't know what the minimum "safe" wall height is, but most unroofed outdoor pens I've seen use wire mesh about seven feet high. Smaller pens can use shorter walls because the chickens need quite a bit of horizontal room to reach their maximum height above ground. Wing clipping doesn't actually reduce their wings' lift much, mainly it just removes the ends of the primary feathers which are necessary for controlled flight. Chicken flight is pretty erratic and wild at best, and without those feather tips they just can't control it at all.

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    4. Re:Question... by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 5, Funny
      Chickens can fly

      Not really. Chickens can fly...

      'Nuff said.

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    5. Re:Question... by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's called falling...with style.

    6. Re:Question... by jlarocco · · Score: 4, Funny
      But can the superchickens fly now?

      Possibly, but in any case, here are some facts:

      1. Super-chickens are chickens.
      2. Super-chickens fight all the time.
      3. The purpose of the super-chicken is to flip out and kill people.

      Super-chickens can kill anyone they want! Super-chickens cut off heads ALL the time and don't even think twice about it. These chickens are so crazy and awesome that they flip out ALL the time. I heard that there was this super-chicken who was eating at a diner. And when some dude bit into a drumstick the super-chicken killed the whole town. My friend Mark said that he saw a super-chicken totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.

    7. Re:Question... by Warg!+The+Orcs!! · · Score: 5, Funny

      A the risk of going off topic

      When I was at school one of the Biology teachers (let's call him Mr Mudie) was covering the topic of "Birds 'n Flight 'n Stuff" and he borrowed a quail from the city university. Quail tend to be more on the 'flutter' rather than 'soar' end of the flight scale. So, Mr Mudie has this quail in his hands and says (I paraphrase) "..and of course quail don't fly so well" and launches the bird high into the air...

      It went up..... ...and came down. With a thud and without a single solitary flap. Stone dead. Ooops.

      Of course, he proved his point - they don't fly so well

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    8. Re:Question... by Random+Destruction · · Score: 5, Funny
      They also can maintain a near verticle glide when jumping off of a high space.

      Me too. It's called falling.
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  2. its that time again... by freemywrld · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it time to welcome our new super-chicken overlords?

    1. Re:its that time again... by jdbartlett · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, but if you like, you can go through all 10,600 Google results for "welcome our new * overlords":

      http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aslashdot.org +%22welcome+our+new+*+overlords%22

  3. Web server by mh101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like they should have put their web server in the centrifuge as well...

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  4. Obligatory by delirium+of+disorder · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the chickens will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new centrifuge generated superchicken overlords.

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  5. For more along the lines of the summary... by Nybarius · · Score: 5, Informative

    see the book "The Physics of Superheroes". It's about exactly what you would expect.

  6. I wonder where you approach the limit..... by groslyunderpaid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You could only get so much bigger (bones, muscle, etc) before it wasn't an advantage anymore, right? I mean, growing something in higher gravity so that it creates a stronger 'infrastructure' (for lack of a better term) would only be beneficial up to a certain point, at which point the weight of said 'infrastructure' would weight you down so as to defeat the purpose....

  7. No wringing their necks! by psyclo · · Score: 4, Funny

    My grandma used to kill chickens by twirling them over her head to break the necks, then throwing them down. Like to see her try that with a "superchicken"!
    Can't you just see it? Hank comes outside to find his wife, and there the is, cornered in the hen house. "Look out Hank! That one by the door knows judo or something!"

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  8. Super Chicken? by jcostantino · · Score: 4, Funny

    Super Grover unavailable for comment.

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  9. Another weird thing about those superchickens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently they tasted just like Christopher Reeve.

  10. Oh man, I am so old! by gooman · · Score: 5, Funny

    When you find yourself in danger,

    When you're threatened by a stranger,

    When it looks like you will take a lickin',

    There is someone waiting,

    Who will hurry up and rescue you,

    just Call for Super Chicken!

    Fred, if you're afraid you'll have to overlook it,

    Besides you knew the job was dangerous when you took it

    He will drink his super sauce

    And throw the bad guys for a loss

    And he will bring them in alive and kickin'

    There is one thing you should learn

    When there is no one else to turn to

    Call for Super Chicken!

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  11. Please, think of chickens by hierro · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everytime you mod me down, a scientist centrifuges a chicken.


    Please, think of chickens.

  12. Re:Larry Niven by emurphy42 · · Score: 4, Informative
  13. Quoth Mitch Hedberg: by mpathetiq · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think a rotisserie is like a really morbid ferris wheel for chickens. It's a strange piece of machinery... "We will take the chicken, kill it, impale it, and then rotate it. And I'll be damned if I'm not hungry! Because spinning chicken carcasses make my mouth water! I like dizzy chicken. With a side of potatoes of some sort."

    1. Re:Quoth Mitch Hedberg: by nacturation · · Score: 4, Funny

      With a side of potatoes of some sort.

      I believe the technical term around here is "hot grits".

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  14. Development of Supermans Powers Over Time by David_Shultz · · Score: 5, Informative

    For anyone interested in the development of Supermans powers as the series progressed, check out this website:

    http://www.johnath.com/~david/etc/superman.html

    As other posters have mentioned, yes, it is true that he started without flying ability -he could leap only one eighth of a mile. The development of his powers is actually quite staggering, going from what nowadays would be a lesser superhero, to being one of the most powerful superheroes in the combined comic book multiverse.

  15. Whatever you do, don't swing a sword at them by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've heard rumors to the effect that if you attack them with a sword repeatedly, it will send a call out to dozens of other superchickens which will all attack you until you flee indoors or scroll to the next area.

  16. The excerpt from the Great Mambo Chicken book by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want to read more details, use the "Inside Book" search on Amazon within the Great Mambo Chicken.

    From the search results link above, visit pages 54 and 55 - the sidebars navigate to the next and previous pages.

    No I have no affilate link in there (that I am aware of) - call me crazy.

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  17. I Had a Problem Set Like This Once... by SonOfFlubber · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I was an undergrad taking lower division Newtonian Physics my prof assigned a problem set along the lines of:

    "Superman: the man of steel. Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound:
    1) Calculate Superman's kinetic energy to go faster than the bullet
    2) Determine the amount of work Superman would do pushing against the locomotive to make it go backwards 1 km on a level track
    3) Compute the impulse generated by Superman to leap a tall building

    Most of the class did OK, I got all the answers in the ballpark, but one student had answers that were an order of magnitude greater than anybody elses'. When the prof asked the student why his answers were so high, he replied "Well, it seems as if I used a higher mass than anybody else - you DID say that Superman was the man of steel, didn't you?"

    He got full credit.

  18. DragonBall Z, Goku and Vegeta by Soong · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They started training at 10 times earth gravity, and were well up over a hundred in just a couple villain intermissions worth of training.

    So yeah, train hard, get strong. (as long as you don't break yourself in the process)

    Maybe the interesting thing here is not that the chickens got stronger, but that 2g was within their biological limits.

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  19. Superman as an Energy Being by Bombula · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Whenever you hear one of these physics of Superman debates where they ask MIT physicists or whatever, the assumption is always that Superman has his abilities because he has a super version of a human body. So he's super strong and super fast because his muscles are super powerful, and so on. But if this is the case and he's constrained by the ordinary laws of physics, then everything about him from strength to flight to x-ray vision is totally implausible.

    However, if you escape from the assumption that he's some fancy biological being, then things change completely. In my mind, Superman is a being composed of energy. His appearance is just a convenient form, a shell. Kryptonian technology seems to be advanced enough for this to be plausible, and it also rids us of the unlikely coincidence that Kryptonians and humans happen to look exactly the same.

    Composed of energy and manipulating forces, all of Superman's powers become plausible - as energy, flight makes sense, speed makes sense, and strength could be the transmutation of energy into forces. With Kryptonian technology, it might be possible to create force fields of two dimensions (planes, or surfaces) or three dimensions (volumes, or zones), which you could also view as curving space. Then things like lifting a car by its bumper would make sense, whereas with human phyics you'd just rip the bumper of. And as for lifting continents, if the force required to lift a continent was applied to an area the size of your hand it would pass through any known substance as easily as we pass through air. Strength-by-force-field is the only thing that makes any sense.

    Kryptonite also makes more sense with Superman as an energy being. Maybe it gives off some weird particles that interfer with Superman's ability to transmute energy into gravitons or other force particles. Superman being solar-powered makes better sense this way too. And obviously heat vision, x-ray vision, and flying at cose to the speed of light make more sense for an energy being than for a material being.

    Well, that's my uberdorkiness binge for the day.

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    1. Re:Superman as an Energy Being by CmdrGravy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think if you take your theory a little further and make the assumption that Superman is in fact a fictional character and lives soley in our imaginations where anything is possible regardless of any laws of physics, or anything else, you may get closer to discovering Supermans true nature.

  20. Re:Human centrifuge - the Gravitron by D4MO · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I worked in one of those for a whole summer once. I was that dude in the centre with the speed button. So I basically spent about 12 hours a day spinning for about 4 months. The trick to not getting totally fucked up was not to move your head outside the plane of rotation. Move head left and right, fine, but if you moved up and down it was trippy. At the end of every ride, someone would always ask why I wasn't sticking to the walls...

    The amusement park was right beside a beach so I'd get chicks coming in with their two piece bikini's. At a certain speed of rotation, the panel you lean against would slide up. At this speed and force, a lot of the women couldn't lift their arms and hands away from beside them - they were as good as pinned down. It took me a few weeks, but I pefected tweaking the speed just right to have those panels slide up and down repeatedly. And in doing so, I managed to "jiggle" many a breast out from under a bikini top!

    Yeah, I'll go to hell, but damn, it made the job worthwhile ;)

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  21. Re:Larry Niven is wrong by Itchy+Rich · · Score: 4, Funny

    Given that he's powered by the Sun, I'd lean more towards an optical nervous system.

    I'd lean more towards getting out more.