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Modding Nokia Cameraphone To Be Mouse

ozg333 writes "This guy had the very clever idea of modding a Nokia mobile phone to work as a mouse by using the built in camera. It uses the phone's built-in Bluetooth to link to the PC, so cool! There is also a video of it in action. I can't wait to get one of these, it would mean one less device to carry when I'm travelling."

89 comments

  1. Mouse to Cameraphone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next is a Wireless Mouse to Cameraphone

    1. Re:Mouse to Cameraphone by JelloCube27 · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. Nice way to kill your battery ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It uses the phone's built-in Bluetooth to link to the PC, so cool!"

    First time I've seen "dumb" spelled "c-o-o-l".

    1. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Funny

      You obviosly haven't seen what people say about MySpace...

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    2. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by Total_Wimp · · Score: 2, Funny

      First time I've seen "dumb" spelled "c-o-o-l".

      Dude! this _is_ cool. I have a tendency to put my phone on the desk right near my mouse. I can't tell you the number of times I've reached over for the mouse without really looking and grabbed the phone by mistake.

      Other features:

      -No extra mouse when you travel - saves weight
      -No extra dongle for your wireless mouse (assuming you have laptop with built-in bluetooth)
      -You can take a call and at the same time rub your head against the wall to use the mouse. I'm currently unaware of any mouse that has this as a feature.
      -No extra batteries or charger for your seperate mouse.
      -People will talk about your mouse on slashdot (no one has so much as mentioned my "Target" brand mouse yet)
      -People will gawk at you in the board room.

      Now my biggest problem is that I don't have a Nokia!

    3. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by ppc_digger · · Score: 2, Funny

      >People will gawk at you in the board room.

      That's a bug, not a feature.

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    4. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by Gli7ch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Other "features"
      - Look freaking stupid, pretty much all the time.
      - Wasting the battery of an important piece of communications equipment that most people require for normal daily routine.
      - Cramps and sore fingers from holding tiny phone between thumb and forfinger (look at tfa)
      - Annoying static every time you get a phonecall or a sms.
      - People talking about your mouse on slashdot,

      It's a fun premise, but the only real reason someone would do it was "because they can". In reality, it'd be much easier just to use a normal mouse, or even *gasp* the touchpad.

    5. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by sr3d · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's NOT about the BATTERY! It's about the clever idea. Yeah, people didn't make the first computer while they were afraid of wasting bulbs. I was amazed by this guy's work. It's creative engineering. I would personally challenge anyone here to do something like this and get on SlashDot. It's weird that people just like "this is normal, shouldn't be on slashdot" Well, that person shoudln't comment either because his/ her idea is not worth enough to get on /. The idea of the camera phone + mouse is something new and *c*o*o*l* (notice the spelling) that phonemakers should include in their phones. I don't use my phone to take photos because the quality sucks. But I'll be using the phone on the road as my mouse because It would bean any mouspad major @ss and one less thing to carry. How about a retractable USB cable to connect to the computer instead of bluetooth? That will help the battery if you are concerned. And how many geeks will seriously have a legitimate reason to invest in a new and "high-res" phone. How much money that would bring in for phonemakers? So, in the end, if you don't see the idea is brilliant, that's okay. But to me, it's pretty amazing. People are generally missing the point of things like the post about Dvorak. Dvorak is right on the money on his question and opinion while most normal people just don't see anything. Again, if you are good enough, do something that got featured on Slashdot before writing bashing comments. Otherwise Slashdot would become better without you and your comments.

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    6. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      A dumb idea is still a dumb idea.

      1. "How about a retractable USB cable to connect to the computer instead of bluetooth?"

        Ever use "retractable" cables? Didn't think so ... they're a real pain in the ass. Another dumb idea.

      2. "And how many geeks will seriously have a legitimate reason to invest in a new and "high-res" phone."

        If you had bothered to actually read the article, you'd have known that one of the problems is that NO camera phone can focus properly at such a short distance, so fsck the hi-res. This is EXTREMELY lo-res. That makes 2 dumb ideas ...

      3. "But I'll be using the phone on the road as my mouse because It would bean any mouspad major @ss and one less thing to carry."

        You'll need to carry your phone charger. That's as much wire as a mouse. Also, again, if you had read the article, you'd have known that its damn inconvenient to use - you can't just rest it on a mouse pad (yes, you need a mouse pad or similar surface) - you have to hold it in the air slightly above the surface, to let some light in. So you'll end up with RSI injuries quicker.

      You scored a trifecta of dumb ideas, which could have been avoided if you had simply read the article.

      "Again, if you are good enough, do something that got featured on Slashdot before writing bashing comments. Otherwise Slashdot would become better without you and your comments."

      And if you would bother to actually RTFA (read the fucked-up article), you would have avoided dumb idea #4 - you wouldn't have been writing such a lame-ass comment, giving me an excuse to write even MORE "bashing comments". So why not do your share to "improve slashdot" and foe me. Maybe if enough people do, something bad will happen. (yeah, sure, what-evah).

      Or - and here's a really radical idea - you could just read the articles before posting.

    7. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> Or - and here's a really radical idea - you could just read the articles before posting.

      You must be new here.

    8. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      That's why I say its a radical idea to RTFA for so many of the newer posters :-)

      Its like all they want to do is try for a quick score to karma whore. Those of us who have been at the karma cap like forever don't relly give a crap. Me, I just want to get more freaks ... I've been sitting at something like 80 people foeing me for ages. Maybe if I start posting "Every time X happens, Dick Cheney splits a live baby with his buddy Osama" or "Israel pre-emptively kills another 5-year-old lebanese 'terr'rist'" or something ...

    9. Re:Nice way to kill your battery ... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      And you end up with a mouse with at least 23 buttons (from photos and description) and the possibly ability to pick it up and use it for voice recognition: "Hello, Computer."

      Apply the other mod used with a real mouse and turn it into a color hand scanner (after applying a corrective lens cover to fix the close-focus problem). And use it as your modem for connectivity on the road (one of the reasons why your phone would be nearby).

      Con: mouse abuse breaks an expensive phone and service contract.

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  3. DIY Project? by dawhippersnapper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This might seem interesting as a DIY project, but it's a quite worthless gadget, while neat that it's possible, it shouldn't be big news.

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    1. Re:DIY Project? by MarkByers · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... it's a quite worthless gadget, while neat that it's possible, it shouldn't be big news.

      You must be new here.

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    2. Re:DIY Project? by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I say it's worthy of a slashdotting. Just because it's not "Man uses Nokia cell phone to cure cancer" doesn't mean a million geeks wouldn't find it interesting...

      Or am I fishing too much for the slashdot of yore...

      Anyone that wants to compose a limerick in regards to the slashdot of yore, have at it...

    3. Re:DIY Project? by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Informative
      You must be new here.

      Considering he is #861941, he is actually is pretty new here.


      Back on topic: I really do not want to drag my cell phone back and forth across a desk. Also, if I am on a trip and end up using my computer for an extended period of time, I want something that is a bit more ergonomic. A phone is designed to be held close to the head, not horizontally and in front of you.

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    4. Re:DIY Project? by TheGhostOfDerrida · · Score: 2, Funny

      Huzzah for the slashdot of yore,
      Where ne'er was there a bore,
      but then came a dupe-
      (something that rhymes with dupe),
      and following that came some more

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    5. Re:DIY Project? by Ryz0r · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anyone that wants to compose a limerick in regards to the slashdot of yore, have at it...

      I once browsed the Slashdot of yore,
      The comments insightful and more;
      But now all they be,
      Are links to goatse;
      And n00bs pwning j00 with dual c0re!

      I'm so sorry.

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    6. Re:DIY Project? by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 2, Funny
      While browsing my work time away
      On slashdot one fine August day
      a limerick I bore
      about slashdot of yore
      lost fr1st p0st to the GNAA! :(


      Don't kill me, please. *ducks*

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    7. Re:DIY Project? by rts008 · · Score: 1

      LOL, well done!

      Encore! Encore! We want verse two!

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    8. Re:DIY Project? by gnarlin · · Score: 1
      Encore! Encore! We want verse two!

      Don't you mean verse two-point-oh?

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  4. battery life by Speare · · Score: 3, Informative

    Boy, and I thought my 2xAAA bluetooth optical mouse had a short battery life! The CCD sensors are only intended for bursts of a few seconds, not for continuous clicky-draggy mouse motions. They chew up a large amount of battery power to amplify extremely small amounts of incoming light signal into usable pixel values.

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    1. Re:battery life by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Not only that, but you have to hold it above your mouse pad, not in actual contact.

      "Light is needed. My temporary solution is to hold the phone about .6cm above the pad, letting light in the side. My camera picks up enough to see at this distance."

    2. Re:battery life by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      hmmmm so then it will be really nice when the induction charging pads are supported... ie: use the phone for a mouse on the pad and charge it at the same time....

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    3. Re:battery life by karnal · · Score: 1

      Next up- mod the phone so that pressing a button illuminates a LED in very close proximity to the camera.

      I'm betting it has to be held up a slight bit just to allow the light in (and no, I didn't read the full text of the article, but I did notice whomever was moving it was keeping it above the pad)

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    4. Re:battery life by tomhudson · · Score: 1

      That's what the article said ... and using an LED would just further drain the batter ... so then you're stuck with a dead phone ane no mouse.

  5. Pointless but...ya know! by Fred+Porry · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Pointless but...ya know! by jas203 · · Score: 1

      There is this also http://shop.psiloc.com/en/Application,65575,Mobile +Mouse. I tried this as a demo at least 9 months ago, it did work, but it wasn't the best mouse I've ever used.

  6. Fake by tliet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a joker. This is as fake as it can be. The video shows Windows and then it shows him moving his phone about.

    1. Re:Fake by junglee_iitk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I for one second that! While he is moving the windows, my guess is that he should be pressing some button (to imitate Left-Click of mouse), which he is not!

    2. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not once does the video show both the monitor *and* him moving the mouse around together. I'm not saying its fake because its plausable to use the phone as a mouse, but surely you would need some kind of left click button to move windows around like that.

    3. Re:Fake by ppc_digger · · Score: 1

      >While he is moving the windows, my guess is that he should be pressing some button (to imitate Left-Click of mouse), which he is not!

      That doesn't say anyhting. A 2-line VB/C++ program can lock the left mouse button using mouse_event().

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    4. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is definitely fake since the Nokia 6230i is a Series 40 platform 2nd edition device. However, image capture using the Java MMAPI is only supported on some Series 40 3rd edition devices and not one 2nd edition handset. More information in this thread: http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/archive/in dex.php/t-75277.html/

    5. Re:Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does look like a fake. The video should be shot from the right hand side, showing the phone and screen in one frame, with the phone movement actually causing the windows movement. Look at the video as it is and imaging that was a banana, not a phone. Would you reason that the banana was controling the windows?

      It does look like a fake, but the guy can find better ways to prove it true than this bad video.

  7. His Windows vs. Linux Article.... by Khakionion · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...is a total flame, typical of a Microsoftie who expects to jump headfirst into Slackware/Gentoo and understand everything in a week. When he doesn't, it's the fault of "the community."

    What a tool.

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    1. Re:His Windows vs. Linux Article.... by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 1

      Follow that link and mod parent up... His views on windows vs. linux are just as skewed as many fanboys are, but it's almost sad... A whole page of flaming, it looks like slashdot on friday night!

    2. Re:His Windows vs. Linux Article.... by corychristison · · Score: 1

      I remember when I jumped into Linux just about 2 and a half years ago...

      I can honestly say I rarely had problems, and what problems I did have I could eventually figure out what I could do to fix it or get around it.

      After reading what he had written, he is a dolt. I actually feel stupider after reading it. And, as a web developer, I feel he should never enter the market with a page such as his.

    3. Re:His Windows vs. Linux Article.... by packeteer · · Score: 1

      Hes takes his points a bit too far but he brings up good points about learning linux. Let me first say that learning windows is not easy, but the key thing here is that there are billions of people who know how to use it. When you switch from windows to linux there are quite a few annoying things that keep windows users from converting.

      One of the things i think he was correct about was the directory structure. Although it is probably a better system to have so many predefined folders it is confusing to a windows convert. More people would adopt linux if everyone quit calling people who didn't understand it "stupid".

      His comments about productivity and linux users additudes are way off though. I think this is becuase he had a bad experiance but unfortunatly if more people get burned like him its only hurting linux being adopted on the desktop.

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    4. Re:His Windows vs. Linux Article.... by remmelt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Have you visited the Ubuntu forums lately? Not to sound fanboi (I am), but there are so many helpful, friendly people there, it's really amazing. Sure, they expect you to at least have a google at your problem yourself, but why is that bad?

      Yes, there are people who will say you are stupid. Sometimes, they're even right. But if they aren't, you could just ignore them and listen to the 10 other people who actually provide a helpful answer.

  8. Fake... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, this video is supposed to prove that it 'works'?

    Actually, I have the impression that some person is doing tricks with a real mouse, while another one moves the mobile phone. I would have loved seeing the window dragging and the phone movements in sync, however it seems that the author carefully avoided this...

    I wonder which buttons are used for the click, hold and drag actions?

    1. Re:Fake... by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 1

      I wonder which buttons are used for the click, hold and drag actions?

      So, the phone was inverted with the screen where your palm would rest. This makes the keypad available for buttons. Not surprisingly I used three buttons, Star, Zero and Hash (pound for US'ites).

      As far as proving it works, I guess anyone can fake the video, so a call to release the code is in order..

      If he doesn't comply, we burn his server down!!
      :)

    2. Re:Fake... by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

      If he doesn't comply, we burn his server down!!

      I think slashdot will do that for us weather he complies or not ; )

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    3. Re:Fake... by MrFlannel · · Score: 1
      Obviously it's fake (FTA):
      A lot of thought went into the interface. Originaly the phone was the right way up with the screen at the top, but this put the buttons at the bottom! Not a good shape for a mouse. So, the phone was inverted with the screen where your palm would rest. This makes the keypad available for buttons. Not surprisingly I used three buttons, Star, Zero and Hash (pound for US'ites). Originally I intended to make the volume up/down on the side into a scroll wheel but it seems that its just not positioned right when the phone is upside down, and I decided that left right buttons were more important than scroll wheel.
      Emphasis mine.

      Except, in the video, the buttons ARE at the bottom. Unless he moved the window around (while holding the button down) and then flipped the phone around with massive ninja skills so we can see him moving it...
      No, no. I'll stop trying to make up excuses to explain it

      Yeah, it's a fake.
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  9. too much time on their hands by 56ker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The combination of having to hold it 0.6cm above a surface, plus the generally poor battery life of cameraphones makes it a little impractical for normal use.

    Although kudos to them for writing the software to do this.

  10. travelling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I can't wait to get one of these, it would mean one less device to carry when I'm travelling" ... between home and school.

  11. bright idea by 56ker · · Score: 1

    I've just thought of something. If they used it on a glass table would the ambient light or perhaps a light shone at the mouse be enough not to have to "hover" it above a surface?

    1. Re:bright idea by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      If they used it on a glass table would the ambient light or perhaps a light shone at the mouse be enough not to have to "hover" it above a surface?

      I think I'd prefer to carry a real mouse when I'm travelling rather than a glass table :)

  12. What happens when... by justsomecomputerguy · · Score: 1

    You get or need to make a call and... you want to use your computer while talking on your PHONE?

    Basically its the same problem as when trying to use your phone as a PDA: Talk or type (or retrieve) but can't do both at the same time.

    Forget about battery life. Answer me this either/or question first.

    1. Re:What happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can both talk and retrieve/enter data into my PPC phone - as long as I use a headset.

    2. Re:What happens when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just turn on the loudspeaker mode on the phone, you'll be able to talk and listen while mousing away. Does that answer your question? Can we now talk about the battery life?

    3. Re:What happens when... by Moofie · · Score: 2, Informative

      Use a headset. Or the speakerphone. Not very complicated.

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  13. I concur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    His entire article can be translated to "I spent years learning DOS/Windows but have never used unix and refuse to learn". What's with all the moving ads on his awful website? Ewwwwww!

    The guy is a total kook.

  14. Shut up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I can't wait to get one of these, it would mean one less device to carry when I'm travelling."

    Are you kidding me? Seriously using your camera phone for a mouse?

    Don't even bring up the "one less device to carry when I'm travelling" crap. That is the stupidest-ass horse shit I have ever heard. You are a fucking faggot.

    1. Re:Shut up by livewire98801 · · Score: 1

      Now, I'm convinced that this idea sucks. Thank you for showing me the light!

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    2. Re:Shut up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are welcome, sir.

      The amount of stupidity in this world never ceases to surprise me. People will do anything, no matter how retarded, to get some attention.

      I ask you, what the fuck is wrong with people?

  15. this is just what i need by lytles · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i sit at work with my cell sitting on the table next to the mouse. i mostly use the keyboard, and tend to reach to the mouse to click a button without looking at it. several times I've tried to move the mouse without the pointer moving for a few seconds, only to realize that I reached for the phone instead.

    i guess i'm not the only one.

  16. Oh, boy! A fifteen-button mouse! by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    Watch your productivity soar as you program simple three-key combinations to bring up your favorite Windows function.

    To remember which is which, you can just put a yellow Post-It note over the phone's LCD screen.

  17. I did that already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..and converted my Rowenta steam iron into a mouse so I could surf
    while getting the creases out of my shirts. The phone mod didn't work
    out so good though, someone called me up and I burned half my right ear
    off.

    1. Re:I did that already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The phone mod didn't work out so good though, someone called me up and I burned half my right ear
      off.


      I bet you've burned the half of your other year off, too, while trying to call 911.

  18. sounds cool but... by jackjeff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a cool hack, but i don't think it is "that" useful to replace a "laptop mouse".

    Laptops have builtin trackpads... I assume people who use a mouse because
    1) they need a more precise + ergonomic device than the trackpad.
    2) have a shitty trackpad on their computer.

    In both cases, I wonder if my Nokia phone is really an improvement for problem 1 or 2...

    The only "useful" application is to show of in front of your friends :)

    1. Re:sounds cool but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with admitting the sheer coolness of it?

      Ok, I know mice are sold in all kinds of stores these days. Even using your bluetooth equipped cellphone as remote control is standard, so why bother. The nose-drilling "useful" term is covered by consumer electronics industry.

      Now, using the word "useful" in THIS context equals to "eat crap and kill yourself" compared to this elegant approach to a so far unsolved problem: What do you do without mouse but only having "x"?

      Future hardware modifications to connect to your laptop as a cursor-control include some more breath taking ideas such as:

      - standard microwave front panel turn switches; (probably requires some makeshift bluetoothing)

      - use your car's manual stickshift; (probably requires some wire signal re-routing)

      - use your headphones by simply TURNING them; (probably requires turning your whole office into some type of magnetic resonance pickup device at the expense of several hundreds of miles of copperwire and then calibrating the damned thing and write some driver software for it, but, hey! new mouse!)

      - come up with some light triangulation to have your friend drive the motor boat out on a lake, and you with a megaphone on the border of it, yelling "right", "up", "left", and emulating mouse clicks by having him or her shoot something up in the air; (now that'll have you working on electronics and construction and signals!)

      "Useful". This word makes me puke. Like, y'all are getting it. We all are in dire need for NEW, and I mean, NEW mouse devices. We've seen the "useful" ones. Now we want something really cool.

  19. Kinda lame by jpardey · · Score: 1

    As I am A Real Man, I would plug my digital video camera into my computer by firewire, and use it as a mouse. Better res, and way more manly to hold a 1.68 lb camera and power cables and my assorted arm weights 5 centimeters above the table.

    It dosen't have programmable buttons. Oh well, the ones below my laptop's touchpad will do.

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  20. Negative comments by vasanth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I see a lot of negative comments here... what ppl fail to understand is that it is not meant to be a practical solution but a project for the sake of doing it... I enjoy working on small projects in my spare time which do not actually solve anything but just keeps me engaged and the stuff this guy done is cool from that perspective..

    1. Re:Negative comments by MrFlannel · · Score: 1

      He does get +3 cool points for hacking, but then +1000 idiot points for faking it, and doing a bad job at that.

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  21. How to please everyone by Tx · · Score: 5, Funny

    You may recall this article, about guy turning his optical mouse into an imaging device. Now here we have another guy who wants to turn his imaging device into an optical mouse. Pity they didn't just think of doing a swap, eh? ;)

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    1. Re:How to please everyone by bccomm · · Score: 1

      Or how about the mouse-embedded screen. Kinda hard to watch DVDs on.

    2. Re:How to please everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=173345&cid=144 21940

      see this comment...this slashdotter had it right

  22. I don't believe a word by stefanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sounds like a really cool hack, but I don't believe a word of it.

    I just took a sample shot with my 6230, and at 1cm, a printed page with 12pt courier on it shows essentially no structure at all, it's all too blurred. At closer range, the body blocks too much light for the camera to aquire anything. My wooden desk and various other things also didn't give any discernible shapes. Looking at the video and the mouse pad, I doubt the camera would see anything at all.

    Even if it is possible to properly track the blobs, I doubt that you'll get high resolution from the typical phone camera. I believe typical optical mice have a resolution between 500 and 2000 dpi, and given the typical 640x480 resolution, you'd need optics to focus the camera on a rather small spot. The mice have these optics, the cameras won't (they're usually wide angle).

  23. Fake? by palmnet · · Score: 1

    Im not to sure, he never shows the phone and pointer moving in step, but the buttons on the side of the phone where he has his fingers in the video throw off the "He couldnt click because he didnt have his fingers on buttons" claim to fakery. Anyway, major kudos if its real, if not, then someone make it real!

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  24. -o-o-o- by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

    You may recall this article, about guy turning his optical mouse into an imaging device. Now here we have another guy who wants to turn his imaging device into an optical mouse. Pity they didn't just think of doing a swap, eh? ;)

    We could also give up and building our own computers to write OSS software on, go to an electronics store to buy some Voleware and a Dell box and have loads of new free time to go bowling or to play golf but that would kind of take the fun out of being a nerd.

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  25. Some comments missing the point... by ziggyzig · · Score: 1

    It's not supposed to be practical: it's just a cool hack.

  26. Nokia by oskugbg · · Score: 1

    Ii's sooooo fake! How the f**k could the phone see anything? It's completely dark under its lens. Bullshit!!!! FAKE!!

    1. Re:Nokia by palmnet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Erm, I just got my Nokia 6220 which is an older model to his phone, and the camera on it sucks ass, but I could easily make out my keyboard letters at less than his recomended 0.6cm And even when it was really faint you could track the direction of movement quite easily, wether a java program could do that though is up for debate.

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  27. What about radiation?? by Coleon · · Score: 0

    I`ll get hand cancer with one of those mouse

  28. Poor video by Kuvter · · Score: 1

    They show a screen with a window moving. Then show the camea by itself moving to the side of the monitor. Never do they show the two at the same time. I could have made this video and swapped out the camera for the mouse before the camera showed anything.

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  29. or, you could... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1
    "...it would mean one less device to carry when I'm travelling."

    How about, you know, just not carrying a mouse every damn where you go?
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    You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
  30. Interesting Coincidence. by joebob2000 · · Score: 1

    I have been waiting for a couple years now for someone to put an optical mouse pickup on the back of a pda or a celphone as part of the user interface. I am surprised it has not been done yet, but maybe this slashdot topic got a few more engineers thinking.

    A common objection is that the screen moving around as you drag the device would make it unusable, but most people do not move the mouse that far when navigating, so the eye should have no trouble tracking on the screen.

    1. Re:Interesting Coincidence. by flapjack57 · · Score: 1

      seriously, give us some more options. There hasn't been a new najor feature on a phone in a couple of years it seems. Living in bandwidth starved SC prevents me from experiencing the joys of evdo, but while I'm waiting, give me a full blown gps receiver and navigation on my Treo from the factory (got mine running TomTom w/ cable GPS, but a bit of a pain), along with functioning TV remote software, wifi (for crying out loud) and a projector for my snappy P'Points. And when the hell is Skype going to support Palm OS??

      I digress. I like as many options as possible on a smartphone. Keep the options coming, I'll find a use for them all . . . even though this one is hokey. I applaud your effort . .

  31. Hmm - I thought about this before by goldcd · · Score: 1

    but concluded that it was impossible to do. Maybe the best solution would be for some mobile maker, just to shove an extra LED into one of their handsets and flog it as working as a BT mouse?
    I mean how much extra could that possibly cost - and it'd definitely be one less thing to shove into my laptop bag (which is always a good thing).
    Another thing on my wish list is just an extendible prong I could flick out of my phone that goes into a USB socket (not a proper usb, just a board with contacts on it, you can put it on an SD card, you can put it on my phone). Would hardly take any space and I could dump the synch/recharge cable from my bag as well.

  32. Limerick attempt by Shipwack · · Score: 1

    There once was a girl on Slashdot Who'd talk dirty to make the geeks hot. She would speak 733T, to the guys in heat. They never guessed that she was only a spambot.

    1. Re:Limerick attempt by Shipwack · · Score: 1

      Gaah... that'll teach me not to preview.

      There once was a girl on Slashdot
      Who'd talk dirty to make the geeks hot.
      In those days of yore,
      the guys tried to score,
      Not knowing that she was only a spambot

  33. wabbellab by pitu · · Score: 1

    It is in some connection... this game for a mobile phone i know named wabbellab here http://people.freenet.de/hskopp/wabbellab.html using tha phone camera you move the ball on the screen & you get the 'gravity effect'. It is somewhat buggy on my nokia but it generally works...

  34. Why bother modding a nokia by Pop69 · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Sony Erickson K750i has this built in to it.

    Uses the joystick thingy on it to control the pointer over bluetooth.

    Why is it news that you have to use hacks on one phone to do something that is native on others ?

    1. Re:Why bother modding a nokia by nausicaa · · Score: 1

      >My Sony Erickson K750i has this built in to it.
      >Uses the joystick thingy on it to control the pointer over bluetooth.
      >Why is it news that you have to use hacks on one phone to do something that is native on others ?

      Because this isn't about using the joystick to control the pointer through bluetooth, but the camera. Quite a difference..

  35. NEW OFFER FREE by drzut · · Score: 2, Funny

    so this is my offer: ONLY 5 (Source Code included).
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    1. Re:NEW OFFER FREE by Pyrofer · · Score: 1

      Now that is Impressive, you even managed to emulate the same mouse pad! That tops everything. But at least you now understand how its hard to co-ordinate filming with your left hand while doing stuff with your right. No wonder the video doesnt show them both at once, its hard enough to line it up at all without the viewfinder near your eye.

  36. Its Kernel, not Kernal. Idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its Kernel, not Kernal. Idiot.

  37. Not feasible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I doubt this would be practical: it is inconvenient to hold the phone in the air, and having the camera constantly turned on would quickly drain the batteries. I think phone manufacturers should simply include a real mouse LED/sensor combo on their geek phones.


    On the other hand, if the phone has a touchscreen, then it is possible to use it as a touchpad. Things like BlueRemote for Palm OS already do this. Of course, having another touchpad for your laptop is kinda pointless.