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Sega Genesis Collection for PSP and PS2
An anonymous reader writes "Sega has announced what may be the coolest retro collection yet in a compilation of 30 Sega Genesis games for the PSP and PS2. 1up has a great breakdown of the games in the collection, which features everything from the Phantasy Star games to the Golden Axe games, to the Shinobis, to the Vectormans. Pretty cool stuff." From the article: "Sega's doing its part to give these games context with numerous unlockable interviews with the original developers and a museum with trivia on the disc. According to Sega, the games will be reproduced with 'the utmost accuracy to the originals as possible' by developer Backbone Entertainment. And as a special cool bonus, the PSP version will allow -- for the first time ever -- wireless multiplayer for several of the games. "
now for God's sake, release ports of Radient Silvergun and Panzer Dragoon Saga so I don't have to blow $400+ dollars on ebay to play them.
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Like the Shining Series, Streets of Rage Series, Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles, Zero Wing (For Great Justice!). Honestly, though, I'm still waiting for the Phantasy Star I, II, and IV 3D Remakes... What ever happened to that anyway?
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So will the same bundle be available on Nintendo's virtual console? Or will we have to buy each game separately for that format? Or is Sega going to outright renege on the agreement they presumably had with Nintendo to support the virtual console?
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Too bad they didnt put wonderboy, a real nice classic.
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Just how much of this is reaction to the perception of the fan-base that these titles are "abandonware"? I mean, aside from ROMs and old-skool computer geeks, how badly missed are these games, and since they are now coming back in updated format is this simply a way to crack down on emulators and ROM sites?
I wish they'd release PSI (Master System) and Herzog Zwei (Genesis), myself... good times, good times...
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I'll admit, when I saw this I thought "Excellent, a chance to do what I really want: play the classic games I love, portably". Then I realised that Sony wasn't doing a Good Thing (TM) at all. The Good Thing would be to stop messing with the firmware with every damn update and let the homebrew developers in. Give me the ability to run a Genesis emulator without jumping through contrived hoops (which are really holes in Sony's attempted patching), and without a chance of bricking an expensive piece of kit. Hell, I'd be willing to pay a reasonable amount, say $5-10, to 'unlock' the PSP to do homebrew stuff. I don't think such a move would be morally right (and probably not financially right for Sony, what with support), but I *really* like the old Genesis games.
As for the game lineup itself... well, it's good, but they could've done better. Golden Axe is plain fun, and Phantasy Star will keep you entertained for quite a while. Sonic 1 and 2 are *excellent*, but they missed the best of the lot: Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles. I can't believe this is by accident. I smell a "Genesis Collection Vol II" in the works.
Will I buy this collection? Nah. true, it's the right sort of idea -- and multiplayer makes it *almost* worthwhile -- but I just don't agree with either the method or the game choice. So come on Sony, let us use our hardware the way we damn well please, and do what we will with emulators and other nice things.
(...and while you're at it, let us rip UMD games to memory sticks. Those things are sloooow. kthxbye)
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It ought to be interesting to see if there will be enough bonus features to compete with homebrew emulators. If the price is reasonable ($30 or less) and the games are at least slightly updated (eg. the Sonic Jam or GBA versions of the games), then I'd consider it.
Sadly, PS/2 was yet another victim of USB, which doesn't care what you plug into it, the electrical slut.
finally a new original game on the PSP that not a port! oh wait..
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Just when I thought the PSP had more firmware updates than games...
The article doesn't say if these will be the Sega CD versions or no? Although the Sega CD was a terrible flop and what not, it did make better versions of the genesis games.
> so I don't have to blow $400+ dollars on ebay to play them.
Try the Gens emulator plus a ROM. The fidelity of the emulators is excellent and ROMs aren't very hard to find if you can manage to work past a bit of search engine spam. Much better than paying $400, and even if you have copyright hangups, they weren't going to get paid for the copy you bought on eBay, anyhow.
This is very good news, and finally we see they're releasing a good number of games, not just 5-6 (pm àst compilations: it's not fun to pay whole price for 5-6 games, older than gramps --great games, but older than gramps-- you already own). The only downside to it is: Where's my Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Goddamn them, they must've thought this through; they'll be releasing another collection with the missing great games. I think they are missing... - Sonic 3 & Knuckles (S&K with Sonic 3 on) - Sonic 1 & Knuckles/Bonus stages (S&K with Sonic 1 on) - Knuckles in Sonic 2 (S&K with Sonic 2 on) - Shining Force 2 (I bet my ass this will be in the next compilation, too great to miss) - Shining Force And I pray to... something that they get a deal to include Wonderboy 5 in Monster World (AKA Monster World 3). They could even throw in Wonderboy 6 (Monster World 4) as a freebie, using DeJap's fine translation.
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That's because the Shinin' series is already on PSP.
Agreed. I was pretty miffed about the lack of S3 & K et al, but the Shining series was a bunch of great games. I spent countless hours playing and replaying the Sonic games and Shining Force 1 -- time unrivalled even by modern games (no I don't play WoW). I'll admit the rest of the games on offer aren't bad, but, as noted above and in other comments, there are some surprising omissions. Makes you wonder - did Sony/Sega listen to the community (or even common sense) when choosing the games for publication on this compilation? Or were they watching their bankroll for "Sega Genesis Collection Volume 2, for PSP, PS2 and PS3" ?
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Altered Beast, Bonanza Bros, Flicky, Gain Ground, Golden Axe, Super Thunder Blade - why the Genesis versions? Port from the better-looking arcade versions.
Sonic The Hedgehog - again? Sonic Mega Collection was released two years ago!
Virtua Fighter 2 - gotta be kidding me... release the Sega Ages port instead.
Phantasy Star series - now here's the most flawed part. It's incomplete, put the first one there too - anything less won't do. And in PS2 and PS3, I sure don't want accuracy: despite the good plots, these games desperately need a massive overhaul! They look crappy, sound horrible, have exceedingly complex labyrinths, characters move and level-up too slowly.
This compilation is overall very weak. It certainly could use games like Beyond Oasis, Alien Soldier, Gunstar Heroes, Pulseman, Dynamite Headdy, Kid Chameleon, Ranger X, Revenge of Shinobi, Mystic Defender, and the Shining Force series.
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Where's your Sonic 3 and Knuckles? In the Sonic Mega Collection Plus, of course. They've got Sonic 3 and Knuckles, the Sonic 1 and Knuckles bonus stage game, Sonic 2 and Knuckles...why, everything you think is missing! And for only $20 to boot!
Sega isn't run by idiots. Including all of the Sonic games in the package would mean that the incentive for buying the Mega Collection is close to zero. Even if it's an older title, it's still being produced and there's still some level of demand for it.
In any case, there won't BE another collection, more than likely, because this covers most of the bases as far as notable Genesis titles go. It might not be perfect, but this is easily one of the strongest retro compilations we've seen yet, and anyone who doesn't think it'll sell well is a fool.
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Of course, this may be too late, as it's been
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Collections such as these won't always meet your expectations; if for nothing else, modern controllers aren't close enough to what the original games used, and so it won't always work that well.
"Midway Arcade Treasures 2" - Xbox(1):
Mortal Kombat 2, Mortal Kombat 3, Gauntlet II, Spyhunter II, Xybots, NARC, APB, Cyberball 2072, Timber, Total Carnage, Pit Fighter, Wizard of Wor, Xenophobe, Primal Rage, Arch Rivals, Rampage World Tour, Kozmik Krooz'r, Championship Spirit, Hard Drivin', Wacko.
-Of these, Timber is "the best;" works well, and is fun. Rampage W.T. actually works with the "modern" controller aswell, but there are limits to how fun that one is over time. - - - Most of the remaining titles doesn't quite work, sorry to say..
(..evaluated with the "S"-controller series; "small", compared to bulky original controller..)
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I'd heard it had Sonic and Knuckles, but I'd NOT heard of the ones that the combo games were included, now I've GOTTA get it! Hyper Sonic is just too damn cool to pass up.
WOW! Giving away my genesis, Sega Master System and all the games as a kid was definitely a mistake, especially since I did so for the Nintendo 64 :-( Add Space Harrier to the disk and I'd camp out for it. Definitely a reason to buy the PSP if you haven't already.
As I think someone has mentioned, they have a couple of Shinobi games on there, but not Revenge of Shinobi. Wasn't that widely considered to be one of the best of the series? Also, this falls in my personal favorites--the Streets of Rage games were excellent. The controls of Streets of Rage 2 were just about perfected, and there was a pretty good balance in the four playable characters. (Um, except that Axl had that incredibly awesome sliding uppercut that was da bomb.) That was some pretty good multi-player cooperative game play. I think it had one of the more unusual features I've seen. When you had lost all your lives and were going to continue, you could select which character you wanted to continue the game with.
Also, I'm not aware of a port yet of my two favorite arcade games. They were the X-Men and Avengers games. They were fairly similar multi-player beat-em-ups, but were a lot of fun. Before you suggest MAME, I'm wondering if they have actually come to any of the newer consoles like XBox, Game Cube, or PS2.
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Where's your Sonic 3 and Knuckles? In the Sonic Mega Collection Plus, of course. Oh, awesome. Then where's my Sonic Mega Collection Plus for PSP? Sega isn't run by idiots. LOL man. I mean it, I laughed in real life, in front of my monitor. If I were editing an encyclopedia and had to do an article of "idiot", I'd ask current and past Sega directors for pictures to illustrate my article.
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They're included; the catch is that you've got to unlock most of them by playing the games you start out with a set number of times (twenty, I believe).
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Even if those HADN'T been included, though, the compilation is still well worth your $20 if you're a fan of Sonic.
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Oh, awesome. Then where's my Sonic Mega Collection Plus for PSP?
You're right - that doesn't exist and probably never will. To be fair, though, I don't believe you mentioned the PSP once in your original post, and because the number of people who own a PSP is very, VERY small compared to the number who own a PS2, I guessed PS2 instead of PSP.
And regardless of Sega's management mishaps, you've got to admit that it makes zero business sense to remove a product that's still viable and not technologically outdated from the market by replacing it yourself is a boneheaded move. Again, this was written with the PS2 assumption in mind.
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Yes, I hadn't mentioned the PSP, my bad. Yeah, I own a PSP and despite how wrong not being able to run open sauce on it is, I'm seeing if I can avoid exploiting/modifying it; partly because of the time it takes to learn all that, and partly because I buy my games anyways; that's why I'm very concerned regarding my favourite MegaDrive games for it, I'd like to play them without having to modify it then use an open sauce emulator.
BTW, replacing a product by a superior product is perfectly acceptable (if only a bit infuriating for people who got the older product), it happens all the time with software.
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