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Kids with Cell Phones, How Young is Too Young?

An anonymous reader writes "CNet is reporting that the average age of a child receiving their first cell phone is continuing to drop. A report carried out last year showed that the average age of a child's first cell phone was just eight years old and is expected to drop closer to 5 years of age this year. The author raises the obligatory medical questions that have been argued about in adults for years. Just how young is too young for a cell phone?

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  1. preprogrammed phones for kids? by wiggles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder if this survey counted those cell phones that will only call certain preprogrammed numbers, like home or Mom or some such? I would be all over those suckers if I had kids.

    1. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What the hell does a kid under the age of like 13 need a cell phone for???

      Shouldn't someone 8 yrs old be playing with walkie talkies or something? Geez...seems like people are trying to get kids to grow up too fast these days....

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    2. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by joystickgenie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah I think those phones are fine. Like the firefly, where the only people the kid can call are mom dad and the police. That is just an extra security for your child. Although I don't think it is a necessary one most of the time.

      However I don't think that children should have their own cell phones (the full ones). In fact I don't think young teens should have their own cell phones either. Until you can drive a car and have the possibility of being stranded somewhere, I don't think it is necessary to have a phone.

      Hmm.... Yeah I'm gona end up fighting with my daughter over this...

    3. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Informative

      Admittedly, it's an idea that's definately got the potential to be misused.

      During a large scale event (30,000+ people), my younger brother was seperated from my mother. She usually does a supreme job of keeping track of him, but - from what I understand - my dad asked her a quick question and took her attention away just long enough. He was nine at the time. We scoured that event for about thirty panicking minutes, until a New York State Trooper called in and said that they found him. He was no more than five feet from where he had originally been - had gone over to check out one of our local ambulance crews and their on-site setup.

      If he had had a phone, it would have taken no more than 90 seconds to find him, I'd bet. He had no idea that we'd misplaced him, or that he was being searched for, until after we found him, of course. I know that they pounded the 'Tell us where you're going'/'Don't wander off in crowds'/'Don't ever leave my side' lessons into him - I got the very same. Just never occured to him.

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    4. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by B11 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It also has a handy little kidtracker GPS. If my brother weren't 15, I'd sew one into his hip.
      Well aren't you a big brother. Yes, let's get kids used to having their activities/whereabouts monitored, recorded, and analyzed at an early age.
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    5. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by wanerious · · Score: 4, Insightful
      who the hell leaves their 8 year old in a situation where they would need to call someone in an emergency but wouldn't have landline access?!

      It's called a *mistake*

      I'm 21

      Ah, that explains it.

      8 year olds should NEVER be put in a situation where they would need a cell phone.

      Of course not. Mistakes happen. They can get easily separated in crowded areas (heck, even a Wal-Mart), and having a special-purpose phone would save parents like me a lot of panic. I would only give them the phone in these special circumstances.

    6. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      do you really want your daughter stranded in the middle of nowhere without a way to call for help when her looser friends forget to pick her up?

      Her "looser" friends? I would hope that my daughter wouldn't hang out with such sluts. But then again I would hope that my daughter isn't the loosest.

    7. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by mpathetiq · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My parents didn't monitor and analyze my whereabouts and I consider them fabulous parents. They let me go where I wanted (within reason) - all I had to do was check in. Of course, if they found out I was somewhere other than the place I told them, there was hell to pay.

    8. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by porcupine8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      You seem to have an amazingly oversimplified view of how easy it is to keep kids safe. I'm not a parent yet, but even I know that every parent, even the best, is likely to have one or two panicky moments when Junior was right by their side a minute ago and now is nowhere to be seen. It only takes a few seconds, and if your kid can call you when they wind up "lost" three aisles down from you it can prevent a lot of panic on both ends.

      Heck, I had a scary experience as a kid that shows you can't be too careful. We were at TG&Y (a now-defunct K-Martlike store), and I was walking a couple steps behind my mom. I was like 3-4 years old, it's one of my earliest really clear memories. I stopped to look at a purse or something else pretty on a display, got maybe 5-6 feet behind mom as a result - and a second later, someone had grabbed me from behind, with their hand over my mouth. Luckily, when the person swung me around I saw my cousin standing there - my "kidnapper" was my aunt, who happened to see us in the store and noticed that I was lagging behind. My mom walked maybe 10 feet or less before she noticed that I was no longer right behind her, but it was enough.

      Some of your other reasons make more sense, but saying that a parent is a failure if they lose sight of their kids at some point is really unnecessarily harsh. Ask your parents if YOU ever got away from them for a few seconds in a crowd.

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    9. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      "Apparently they'd forgotten the "if you get lost, go to this place and stay there" lesson. Seriously, when I was a kid, there was always a prearranged meeting spot should we get seperated."

      Same here. Heck, that was the MO Mom and I used when she went shopping. We'd drive to Dallas, and go to some of the larger shopping malls. I had my own watch, and we'd plan to meet at a certain place at a certain time...and she'd go shopping, and I'd go where I wanted...usually book stores, toy shops, skateboard shop...etc. Usually we'd meet about 2 hours later.

      I was probably about 3rd grade or so...what's that like 7-9 yrs old?

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    10. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by canadian_right · · Score: 3, Informative

      No matter how careful you are you can lose track of your kid at a public space. You only have to turn your your head for a second for a kid to wonder off and out of sight. Kids are short and easy to lose track of. They also have no clue about the danger of wondering off, no matter how many times you lecture them. Every good parent tries to keep track of their young children, but even the best parent can lose track of their kid, especially in a crowd.

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    11. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
      "Kid is at school and a friend asks him or her if he can come over?"

      Same thing happened when we were kids. But we used the phone AT the friends house. That was pretty much summer running rules. I'd leave early in the morning, and run around with all my friends in the neighborhood...we'd all be at one of our houses or the neighborhood pool. When really young, my folks had me call from wherever I was to let them know where I was at, etc. Most people had phones at their homes...also, it pretty much verified WHERE I was too.

      No cell phones needed...

      I'm more and more with others on this thread. When the kid is able to work, and PAY for their own minutes used....cool, they can get a cell phone.

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    12. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by jesuscyborg · · Score: 5, Funny

      > [Cell phones] also [have] a handy little kidtracker GPS

      So that's why my mom insists on continuing to pay for my cell phone despite the fact that I am living on my own and making a six figure salary! Better leave it at home next time I troll a Vampyre club and strip joint...

    13. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I was probably about 3rd grade or so...what's that like 7-9 yrs old?
      That would be eight or maybe nine. And my parents and I had a similar agreement at that age. However, I don't think it's safe anymore to allow your eight year old to wander a large shopping mall alone. And from experience, I know that you can't trust a seven year old to even care about what time they should return to meet you. The part of the brain necessary for that kind of judgement usually isn't connected at that age.
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    14. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by tomjen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I would not do that to my child - a child deserves a little privacy and the older he becomes (starting when the kid start school) he should learn to take more care of himself.

      Does the fact that I walked to school every day (500m) from I was 6 mean that my parents where bad?

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    15. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      "However, I don't think it's safe anymore to allow your eight year old to wander a large shopping mall alone."

      I keep hearing this, but, I don't know that I buy into it. There were "bad" people when I grew up...I think it is more hype and paranoia these days...I doubt there is more of it than back then...you just hear about it constantly due to 24/7 news channels having to have something to report!

      I mean, are we saying kids today are more STUPID than we were growing up? I certainly knew not to go with anyone else...to stay in public places...and to pretty much obey my parents!! If I could be trusted at that age, why the hell can't kids today be trusted in the same manner?

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    16. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's just bad parenting to not tell your kids what to do when they get lost or to rely on electronics like phones (which will break given enough time with any kid) instead of relying on "go hit the nearest info booth or lost and found and wait there" like normal people. I got seperated plenty of times as a kid and that never failed to work, especially at large places where Information has a PA system.

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    17. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by Nutria · · Score: 4, Interesting
      all I had to do was check in. Of course, if they found out I was somewhere other than the place I told them, there was hell to pay.

      So, in other words, they did "monitor and analyze (your) whereabouts", given the level of technology available at the time...

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    18. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by Moofie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "I don't think it's safe anymore to allow your eight year old to wander a large shopping mall alone"

      Why?

      Is the world a more dangerous place, or are there interests whose profit is served by making you think so?

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    19. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by rk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I mean, are we saying kids today are more STUPID than we were growing up? I certainly knew not to go with anyone else...to stay in public places...and to pretty much obey my parents!! If I could be trusted at that age, why the hell can't kids today be trusted in the same manner?"

      I totally agree with you. I think the problem may well be today's legal environment. By the time I was 13 I was old enough for my parents to go away for a weekend. They might have a neighbor look in on me, but other than that I was by myself.

      I'm about to leave my son at home alone for three days with my almost 14 year old son, and even though "Nana" will be coming to spend one night with him, I'm more worried that some busybody will call child services on us for reckless endangerment or something.

      I don't worry about him at all. He's got a level head, can take care of himself...he's a bit of a picky eater and because I don't run a restaurant, he's learned to cook and clean up after himself when he doesn't want what I'm making. He keeps his cool in an emergency and he's an all round good kid.

      Heck, when I was a kid, 13 or 14 was when I started babysitting other kids. Does anybody do that these days?

    20. Re:preprogrammed phones for kids? by Caiwyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I love how this B.S. gets modded up, but when it comes to censoring video games, the Slashdotters are quick to accuse parents of not doing their jobs by monitoring what their kids see and do.

      Howsabout you drop the hypocrisy and let parents take care of their kids as they see fit?

  2. How young is too young? by Jhon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Easy. Anyone under the age of 18 -- with virtually no exception.

    In my experience, many problems with family harmony can be either traced back to cell phone use -- or cell phones helped compound the problem.

    I don't think ANYONE should have a cell phone until they are emancipated *AND* pay for the damn thing themselves.

    That said: I've seen the FireFly -- and T-Mobile's new "kidconnect plan". Both look very interesting and may force me to rethink my position.

    1. Re:How young is too young? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Interesting
      In my experience, many problems with family harmony can be either traced back to cell phone use -- or cell phones helped compound the problem.
      And before cell phones, those same problems could be traced to regular telephone use. And before regular phones, those same problems could be traced to the same underlying factor: kids trying to establish their independence.

      Cell phones aren't causing those problems, they are just a manifestation of other problems -- some of which are just part of the normal process of growing up/raising kids.

      Why not just lock out all numbers except 'home' and '$parentsoffice' during proscribed times? Allow general use during the time they are allowed to watch TV -- then they can choose between the two.

      Finally, one more thing -- ban cell phones from mealtimes, and from family time.

      The trick isn't to ban kids from using cell phones -- the trick is to teach them to use them considerately, responsibly, and at appropriate times.

      That said, I won't let my kids have a cell phone until they are allowed to go off and do things unsupervised -- their tween years. Then I won't feel comfortable unless I know that IF they needed to contact me, they could.

      Now, back to TFA -- I think the health concerns are probably overstated, and are for me a minor concern compared to the social and psychological well-being of my kids.
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    2. Re:How young is too young? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny
      i got mine when i was 15.. but then again i was working 40 hours a week and paid my own bill.. my parents objected but because i was paying for it they didnt' say anything

      They objected, but they didn't say anything? What did they do, send you a memo?

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    3. Re:How young is too young? by Who235 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Text message. . .

  3. Just freakin great! by dave562 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like my life on the road isn't hectic enough already with soccer moms in their SUVs changing lanes without looking because they are on the phone. Now I'm going to have to worry about running over little kids stepping away from the ice cream truck with their cellphones stuck to their heads.

    1. Re:Just freakin great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
      Like my life on the road isn't hectic enough already with soccer moms in their SUVs changing lanes without looking because they are on the phone. Now I'm going to have to worry about running over little kids stepping away from the ice cream truck with their cellphones stuck to their heads.
      I would call that culling the herd...
  4. Nokia FeotalFone 772 by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because there is no such thing as too early.

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    1. Re:Nokia FeotalFone 772 by Bruitist · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll have twins calling eachother up... "Dude, stay in there! It's not worth it, they just dragged me out by my legs and spanked me!"

  5. I don't care how young they are, by Megaweapon · · Score: 4, Funny

    just stay the f*ck off my lawn!

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  6. Why and what kind? by andrewman327 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    First off, I an inclined to say that this is an ultimate waste of money. I lost so many coats as a child in Michigan that I cannot imagine having held onto a cell phone at age 6. The lost and found will gradually resemble Radioshack.


    It really depends on why you are equipping your child with a cell phone. As TFA points out, many parents are not doing it for social reasons:

    One company that has picked up on the concerns of parents is Disney Mobile. Disney Mobile was set up in the US this June and provides families with mobile phones specifically designed for "tweens, young teens and parents who want to keep an eye on them", according to the Disney Mobile Web site. Unlike standard mobile phones, these handsets feature software that allows parents to limit texts, calls and downloads, restrict phone usage and even locate their children via GPS. Their latest phone, pictured on PhoneArena, is the Disney D100 (pictured), which features a Mickey Mouse-style keypad and a picture of Winnie the Pooh on the casing -- Disney Mobile seems to be marketing itself as a family solution, aimed at concerned parents, and not directly at children.


    If a child can hold onto the phone, this could be a nice way to keep track of children. I can think of two major caveats to tracking: the aforementioned loss issue and the fact that kidnappers will search their victims for cell phones now thus in a true emergency they will not really help.

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  7. Who wants a phone that old? by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 5, Funny
    the average age of a child's first cell phone was just eight years old and is expected to drop closer to 5 years of age this year.
    Man - I know they're kids, but who wants an 8-year-old cell phone? I try to get a new one every two years or so. Of course, I keep my Motorola Lugable radiophone just for kicks...
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  8. If you can afford it, why not? by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it means being able to track them if they go missing, and it means they can call you when they do something dumb. Concentrate on raising good kids and you won't have a problem with them abusing it anyway.

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  9. It's a different world. by nathan+s · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think that this whole cell phone culture is pretty fascinating. I mean, a few millenia ago it was pretty common for kids to live in tribal societies where they knew and had easy access to their friends in physical space. Walk to the next hut over and talk to your friend, if you're not busy doing chores.

    In modern society, I think that social networking and technology are bringing people "virtually" closer together despite the fact that many of us now live orders of magnitude further away from our friends and even relatives than our ancestors did. So in a sense, the idea that a kid is "too young" for a cell phone really cuts to controlling that child's interactions with his or her peers. I mean, once they would have been able to physically play with their friends, but now they live 30 miles from their best friend.

    To me, it seems like it will happen anyway - we will see kids getting phones as soon as their language skills reach the point that they can appreciate having conversations with people that they can't physically interact with. Instead of restricting the phones, though, I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't phones developed which allowed parents to restrict/track contacts in the same way that parents long ago would visually keep an eye on their kids.

    It's a different world, but in a way, there's nothing new under the sun again. Just technology enabling old ways of interaction to be feasible (at least in spirit) in a faster, more spread-out world.

  10. School age by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It is only a decade ago, my sister worried if a responsible parent could send a kid to school without a cell phone. Today that would be unheard of, how else can the kids sort out when and where to meet their parents for home transport, changes of plans, or emergencies? By the time all three kids were going to school, that family of five had no less than seven active working phones...

    Of course, that was in Finland.

  11. WTF? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I was 5 years old I couldn't convince my mother to buy me a new GI Joe .... there's no flippin way I could have gotten a cell phone, even if they did exist.

    What the hell does a 5 year old need with a cell phone? Call the babysitter to tell them you'll be late because you're power lunching with Billy on some cool mudpies? Call AAA if your Big Wheel breaks down? (Assuming they still make Big Wheels ;-)

    Crap do I feel old now.

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  12. Funny Anectdote by GWBasic · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Funny Anectdote: A few weeks ago I was standing in line for Space Mountain at Disney Land. Behind me were two teenagers, brother and sister. Their phone rang, and it was their parents "just checking in." The ensuing conversation indicated how annoyed the kids were that they couldn't get a few hours of freedom away from their parents.

    It made me realize that children with cell phones never get to be completly free of their parents. Who remembers, as a child, being able to get away from over-protective parents by simply walking away from a phone? Now, as children get cell phones, over-protective parents will flip out whenever the "battery dies".

  13. Doesn't matter. by mustafap · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Considering the crap most people feed their children, the danger of a mobile phone is a minor addition.

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  14. As a father of 4... by mjh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have 4 sons, the oldest of which is 8. For my children, there is no place that they go where they are not supervised by adults. So it's not really an issue... yet. But it soon will be. Soon, I'm going to be faced with a dillemma. On the one hand, I want them to have access to a cell phone so that they can call me if they need me. It's a safety thing.

    On the other hand, I really don't want them eating up 17x10^23 minutes every month. Nor do I want to worry about the frequency with which my kids tend to lose things. They lose things that aren't important to them. And if I gave them a device that limited their minutes and contacts (e.g. a firefly type device) then they'd probably lose it because it's just not that important to them.

    The one thing I am absolutely certain of, however, is that I do not want to see some law come in and make the decision for me. Let me decide how old is an appropriate age for my children to have a cell phone. What might be a sensible answer for my kids might not be a sensible answer for my neighbor's kids. My neighbor is a single parent mom. Her 8 year old has a cell phone. She absolutely relies on her kids ability to have a cell phone, and it seems a sensible thing for her situation. Any law, even one that tries to think of all the contingencies, will ultimately fail to account for something. This is better left to individuals to decide for themselves and leave the legislation out of it.

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  15. Re:IMO by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite a few accidents are caused by cellphone use however :/

    No. They are not.

    Quite a few accidents are caused by people being poor drivers, or by allowing themselves to act like poor drivers because they're doing something that's distracting them (putting on makeup, eating a sandwich, looking at the cows in the next field that will be their next sandwich, fiddling with their iPod, yelling at the kids in the back seat, smoking, digging through their briefcase - whatever). Cell phones don't cause accidents, people do.

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  16. Remember that pay phones are gone... by porcupine8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    When I was in high school a decade ago, I never had a curfew - I just had to call my mom at a certain time, or every X hours, or whatever, to let her know I was still alive and about when I'd be home (which was never a crazy hour on a school night anyhow, I had scholar bowl practice at 6am for pete's sake!). This was easy, because there were pay phones everywhere. If I needed a ride home from an afterschool activity or from just socializing, I called her on a pay phone. Etc etc etc.

    The problem is, with the rise of cel phones, there are no more pay phones. At least, hardly any. I've tried to find one once or twice, and it's hard. As such, any teen who wants to contact their parents either has to have a cel phone or borrow a friend's. You can't even guarantee that if they're at a friend's house, there will be a landline for them to call on (or for you to call them on)! I'd definitely want my teen to have one, just because these days there is a serious lack of other options.

    That said, I agree with other posters that until the kid is old enough to be doing this kind of stuff on their own, they probably don't need one. Although the ones people have mentioned that will only call parents or emergency #s sound like they might not be a bad idea, as long as the kid knows when and how to use it responsibly.

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  17. RIAA has made it necessary.. by spasm · · Score: 4, Funny

    Five year olds need cellphones so they can call their lawyers when RIAA sues them for filesharing. Duh.

  18. Back in my day by teal_ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back in my day, during the summer, the neighbourhood kids would all leave the house early in the morning (riding our bikes with no helmets) to go play with GIJoe or Star Wars figures in somebody's back yard, go to the comic book store (tended by an eerily similar fella as the one in The Simpsons), go play (and pirate) C64 games at somebody's house, and just be all over the place, including woods and construction sites and our parents had no idea where we were all day, nobody could reach us. Only rule is we'd have to be home by the time it was dark. I don't recall ever having someone we knew go missing or of anything awful happening to anybody, maybe we were just lucky (middle class suburbs of Chicago), but then again we weren't stupid either, we knew not to get into cars with strangers and what not. Anyway, those were the days, no worries, no responsibility, pure independence, all day.

    Give a kid a cell phone and you make them trade that experience for your own peace of mind, all of a sudden you burden them with something there. It's tough though, if I were a parent I'd be too fretful to let my kids run about like I did. Parenting must be a totally different experience now with the internet and cell phones, you're not sure who your kids are associating with. At least back then our parents knew that were were only associating with other kids more or less our age, but with the net, dunno.