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GPS Map Viewer for PSP Released

DCEmu writes "Deniska has released a GPS Map Viewer for the PSP. The program uses imagery from Google Maps, which currently has pretty good coverage of North America, Western Europe, Australia, Japan. There's also a video on YouTube." According to the post, map data can be retrieved via WiFi or an external GPS receiver. This story selected and edited by LinuxWorld editor for the day Saied Pinto.

61 comments

  1. Now, you see by FireballX301 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is why I like the PSP platform - versatility.

    None of the games that came out for it are worth their cost and the cost of upgrading my 1.5 firmware. No thanks, I like being able to do awesome stuff like this on a high res handheld. Music, video, emulation, and all the homebrew you can ever imagine.

    Now, Sony, if you pulled your face out of your ass and stopped trying to screw the homebrew community over, maybe the PSP could have sold more units.

    1. Re:Now, you see by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now, Sony, if you pulled your face out of your ass and stopped trying to screw the homebrew community over, maybe the PSP could have sold more units.

      So people can buy what is ostensibly a portable video game device that (as you point out) has no decent video games, leaving them to settle for hobbyist software? Oddly, I really doubt that's going to convince your average consumer to drop the dough for one of these things...

    2. Re:Now, you see by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

      I'm almost psyched for the Xbox360 Dev kit that's supposed to come out in a few months and only cost $100. I have so many ideas for simple, but fun, MMOGs. The problem with PC is someone can hack your game in a day. Now when it comes to hacking a console, theres more work involved and the hack doesn't spread like the plague.

    3. Re:Now, you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally I don't understand this fascination on PSP homebrew SW as you need to hack the firmware to get some "not that useful" apps to run.

      I'd rather buy a Nokia 770 with open Linux platform with better wireless connectivity.
      E.g. for this particular case there already is a _much_ more interesting GPS solution. MaemoMapper
      http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/maemo-mapper/
      You can use the Bluetooth to connect directly to a Bluetooth GPS module and use your mobile to download map sections while on the road.

      Free, no hacking, direct GPS connection, more mobility.

    4. Re:Now, you see by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      and only cost $100

      Bzzz. $100/year! At least that's what I read.

    5. Re:Now, you see by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. "while on the road" seems fairly limited as that requires wifi access. When I'm thinking "on the road", I know wifi access is not available to me. Perhaps if I'm driving around down town, or as I transit from one city to another, I might find a spot of support...heck, some cities provide free wifi..but that means spotty access unless I stay within that city. In other words, I see very limited value. On the other hand, if they supports wifi AND EDGE or other "G"-type technologies, then we have a real solution worth talking about. Until then, even the 770 seems to have limited value; aside from its geeky-coolness factor.

    6. Re:Now, you see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having read TFA, there's also the capability to download maps ahead of time and write them to Memory Stick. Memory Stick is fairly cheap and the
      graphics aren't all that large -- it shouldn't be too much of a hassle to grab most of what you want ahead of time.

      Now what would be _really_ cool is WiFi access to the GPS data. Then your in-car computer can host gpsd for your PSP :D

    7. Re:Now, you see by RosenSama · · Score: 1
      None of the games that came out for it are worth their cost and the cost of upgrading my 1.5 firmware. No thanks, I like being able to do awesome stuff like this on a high res handheld. Music, video, emulation, and all the homebrew you can ever imagine.
      For curiosity's sake, what make the PSP better than the Nokia 770 for hi-res homebrew? It's got higher res and Maemo to help with the homebrew. Is it a cost thing? Does the PSP have a stronger processor for multimedia?
    8. Re:Now, you see by kwark · · Score: 1

      1.5 is a great firmware in the PSP, so keep it at that version.

      If you feel the need to run software requiring a newer version (up till 2.71 ATM) 1.5 allows you to run http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devhook which lets you load firmware from the MS without touching the firmware in the PSP itself.

      It also lets you run UMD images from MS.

    9. Re:Now, you see by si618 · · Score: 1

      So go support (buy) GP2X if you want hackable portable hardware that's open. Do you really think Sony is the company for that?

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    10. Re:Now, you see by GooberToo · · Score: 1

      But that doesn't really change anything...which was my point. When I need to go, I need to go...I often don't have time to delay my trip so I can load crap on a stick/card/whatever. The point stands and has zero to do with reading TFA. Like I said...real value will exist when it can do both WiFI and highspeed data connections with cellular networks.

  2. Re:GPS reciver? by FireballX301 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Quoted:

    - GPS support: ability to read and interpret NMEA sentences from a GPS receiver communicating through PSP's serial port. Rather simple DYI hook up with GPSlim 236 receiver from Holux is explained in following thread: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t= 30035

    RTFA.

  3. USB? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  4. Re:GPS reciver? by Atlantis-Rising · · Score: 0

    That has nothing to do with map data. That's transferring the positional data to the PSP.

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  5. Re:GPS reciver? by William_Lee · · Score: 1
    I have not RTFA, but how does a GPS reciever transfer Google Maps map data to the PSP? That smells suspiciously like bullshit.

    Maybe you should try RTFA since it tells you it's through the serial port. It's a nice piece of coding. Nice to call bullshit without even looking at the guy's work. Oh wait, this is slashdot...

  6. Re:GPS reciver? by FireballX301 · · Score: 2

    The map data is downloaded onto the PSP through its USB port, like anything else.

  7. Why a GPS enabled PSP? by crazyjeremy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Aww, yes... for that large "handheld gaming/gps self-positioning" demographic. Glad that group is good with serial ports, cause they're going to need to fall back on that to get active GPS data to the device.

    1. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Aww, yes... for that large "handheld gaming/gps self-positioning" demographic.

      It is an excellent demonstration of how confused I think people are regarding what, precisely, the PSP is intended to be. Is it a video game device? A movie player? A music player? Honestly, I don't know! The movies are crazy expensive, so it's not terribly good for that. As a music player, it's mediocre at best. And we've heard time and again how lack-lustre the game lineup is. So... what is this thing? Frankly, I doubt even Sony really knows the answer to that question...

    2. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't care what Sony or anyone else for that matter thinks it is. The kids and I share it. We use it to play official games, browse the internet from the national Linksys network or I use my iPass or Tmobile wifi credentials supplied by my employer, watch movies and shows that I convert to its native format (automated tools make that conversion easy), listen to music, and for a temporary file carrier (well, that is really only a function of the memory card). I was doing home brew for a while but since I do play official games, I updated the firmware. I assume by the time the home brew scene gets my interest again, tools will be available to use $current_firmware or allow easier switching between various firmwares (some tools are already out for this and I've been out of the scene for a while).
      The lack of keyboard makes the internet a little different but more often then not, I use the PSP more for browsing then my Blackberry or my cell phone.

      I agree with the others though, if Sony opened the freaking thing up, it would be much better. If you don't play the official PSP games, various Palm devices would seem like a more logical choice.

    3. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by TEMMiNK · · Score: 1

      This could be great for those Real Life games, someone could write a homebrew GUI that gives people clues or whatever and they need to find different places, or like the RL Pac-man or assassination game. I think it would be great. GW

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    4. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by gbobeck · · Score: 1
      Is it a video game device? A movie player? A music player?


      You left out "personal intimate massage unit" and "spinach stuck between teeth removal device"

      I doubt even Sony really knows the answer to that question...


      I think Sony thought it would be a Nintendo DS (or Nintendo DS Lite) kille, and would injur or maim the iPod. They must have decided that giving it the ability to do everything would cause it to dominate the market. Unfortunately, they ended up producing the handheld version of the Bradley tank (without the planned flying feature).

      Note: I own a Nintendo DS, and tag all Sony related stories as "sonycrap", so I may be a bit biased.
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    5. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by loki1978 · · Score: 0

      i bought each movie for around 5 on Amazon new and not from a seller but Amazon directly i wouldnt call that crazy expensive

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    6. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by mapmaker · · Score: 1
      Why a GPS enabled PSP?

      So I can justify having my office buy me one?

    7. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by Abcd1234 · · Score: 1

      You're either very lucky or full of shit. Looking here, the average price for a new UMD seems to be around $20, with some, like Pirates of the Caribbean going for closer to $30.

    8. Re:Why a GPS enabled PSP? by loki1978 · · Score: 0

      all three Matrix and the Constantine
      on Amazon.de
      currently the first Matrix is up to 20 again, i bought it at 5
      the reloaded is still at 5
      Revolutions is unavaiable with offers starting at 12
      Same with Constantine, starting at 5
      when i bought end of july they had about 4 dozen UMDs at the low price. Most went up again. Some more, some less

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  8. Re:GPS reciver? by DruidFyr · · Score: 2, Informative

    The summary does not have it quite right...

    Wifi is used to get map graphics from google (cached on memory stick)
    The article notes there is a script to "preload" maps for a given area.

    The GPS is used for position data to show where you are on the maps.

    Two different functions. Hope this clears up your confusion. %-)

  9. I know exactly where we are! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

    We're halfway between a bunch of mushrooms with a plumber jumping around on them and a checkered landscape full of gold rings a hedgehog is running around trying to collect.

    Well, maybe some kids will take a break from playing games to do some GeoCaching.

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    1. Re:I know exactly where we are! by Androclese · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, but you must have never played Lumines...
      *absent minded drooling*

      Pretty lights...
      Flashing lights...
      Pulsating Music...
      must...pay...Sony...more...money...and install...root-kit...willingly...
      *drool*
      brains....

      Ah yes... Lumines... legal crack for the Y-Generation. -- This post brought to you by Sony Mind Control(tm).

  10. Re:GPS reciver? by Bishop · · Score: 1

    So how exactly does the GPS receiver get the Google maps data?

  11. RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have not RTFA

    Then why are you posting?

    Are you one of those obnoxious kids who couldn't wait for the teacher to finish saying something before yelling out what you thought would be the answer?

    Are you still so socially stunted?

    Have you considered medication to help control this compulsion? Some sort of course in effective communication? Learning to sit on your hands?

    Seriously, shut up. Go away. You're not contributing signal, you're noise.

    Is this a troll? No, it's communicating to the too-quick-to-post asshats to actually skim (at least!) the damn article so they don't continually burp up inanities. It might be off-topic, but then anything that begins with "I have not RTFA" was pretty much assured to be that to begin with...

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    1. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by Ethan+Allison · · Score: 1

      No need to! Other people will just say it when people post ignorant comments.

    2. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by LEX+LETHAL · · Score: 1

      Are you teaching the root poster a lesson by embarrassing and insulting him? How many people reply on the Slashdot forums and don't read the articles but just want to talk and interact? At least someone was upfront enough to admit it! The ease of connectivity swings both ways.

    3. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If people read the articles, they would contribute better ideas to the conversation. If they want to talk, they should be informed. The root poster should be embarrassed and ashamed for their idiotic rambling. The worst kind of poster is one who doesn't understand the situation but insists on farting out an ill informed reply to something and confuses otherwise intelligent types from having a conversation.

    4. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by maggard · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How many people reply on the Slashdot forums and don't read the articles but just want to talk and interact?

      Yes dear, they're called "boors": Folks who can't be bothered to make the least effort to inform themselves before imposing on others to do so for them.

      They're self-indulgant parasites, taking up space but contributing little of value, indeed actively degrading the quality of conversation. They're why moderation systems are now so popular, and why unmoderated environments like usenet are now largely wastelands.

      "Talk & interact" is an admirable, if limited, goal for a child's playgroup.

      However adults have a higher expectation for interaction, it is called "conversation", and to engage in such one must have a clue as to what one is talking about. To excuse posters from this minimal level of competence, to indulge their social dysfunction, neither benefits the community or those unable to meet this requirement.

      Instead setting expectations, giving public feedback, both provides incentive towards socially sucessful interaction and dissuades antisocial "I want to make noise" masturbation. Hopefully Atlantis-Rising and others who are disinclined to RTFA but insist on posting inanities will learn from this and adopt age-appropriate communication strategies.

      Or perhaps this will be the wake-up-call they need to look into medication to control a disorder, develop better skills, simply learn when to not speak unless they have something useful to say.

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    5. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by IANAAC · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people"

      - Elenor Roosevelt, among others.

    6. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by psymastr · · Score: 1

      The fact that you stuck "Elenor Roosevelt" there means you're discussing people too.

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    7. Re:RTFA or shup up, go away, get help by Krilomir · · Score: 1

      Nice try, but that is just citing a reference (which is always the polite thing to do!). I think the quote stands well on it's own.

  12. Re:GPS reciver? by modecx · · Score: 1

    Quoth the article:

    "- WIFI map retrieval: ability to acquire and store map data to memory stick over WIFI
    - Linux/Cygwin script is also provided to generate a map of given size and detail for a given location."

    Ostensibly, I'd say this means that, first of all, the program can connect to google maps directly from WiFi, download maps and handle the rest on the fly, this might be good if you had cellphone internet service. Secondly, it appears that there's a script that can download maps from Google's server, and store them on memory stick so they can be accessed when the device can't connect to the net.

    I think it's a neat hack.

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  13. I don't know what YOU call "good coverage" by queenb**ch · · Score: 1

    Ok, I admit that I live in Texas, where every thing really is bigger. What? You don't beleive me. Well, look at this. Yeah, it's nearly 60 miles...

    Now that we've settled that, you'd be surprised what isn't covered by Google earth here. We've been shopping for property and most of Texas, outside the major metropolitan areas isn't included in any detail. When Google finally decides that it's worth covering, maybe I'll spring for the app. Till then, I'll stick to my old school Mapscos. They're much more useful.

    2 cents, QueenB
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  14. Somehow... by bangenge · · Score: 1

    I feel sorry for the PSP after all the crap that goes in its way. On paper, it was a great thing. You can play videos, music, games, and it looks cool (is the white version available elsewhere outside of japan?). But it didn't have that killer must-have game it needs to compete with the DS. Sad, so sad. Too bad it has to resort to hobbyist software (which isn't enough) and other niche stuff to be noticed.

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  15. Java Version by cachimaster · · Score: 0

    Nice work! I have a similar project, but using J2ME, works on cell phones, palm and pocket-pc.
    You can download Here, and is free. When I get some time, will upload it to sourceforge, i already have the project name reserved, SmartMap.
    Would like to start it as a Google Project instead, but it says the name is taken :(

  16. Uh, guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is not a ha... wait, sorry, wrong site.

  17. Re:GPS reciver? by davro · · Score: 0

    Maybe try looking at the getmaps.sh script in scripts directory, this is used to "generate" the maps.

  18. On an unrelated notes by Wolfier · · Score: 1

    There exists a J2ME mapping software - and I've seen it being tried on a GPS receiver paired with a Bluetooth-enabled Blackberry - map is retrieved from the network much like Google maps, and looks pretty cool...

    1. Re:On an unrelated notes by z4pp4 · · Score: 1

      link please?

    2. Re:On an unrelated notes by Bushman624 · · Score: 1

      My Sprint phone came with a trial version of this Rand McNally application. It was really cool while it lasted. Had a little 'locate me' feature that would pop up a map of my exact location. I played with it while the trial version lasted but refuse to pay Sprint 5 bucks a month to keep using it. I really wish the new Google Maps mobile app supported GPS.

  19. Re:GPS reciver? by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's a neat hack, but next to useless functionally. Usualy homebrew stuff for consoles has worthwhile funcionality. To use this hack you have to go over serial, use a cellphone with GPRS/Edge/whatever net access plus a laptop plugged into that phone that has a Wi-Fi card in it.

  20. Looks like Maemo Mapper by wertarbyte · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of Maemo Mapper for the Nokia 770.

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  21. Why from the GTA-without-guns dept? by BeardsmoreA · · Score: 2, Funny

    No guns? It said North America support didn't it?

  22. But is it LEGAL though? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Posting anon on this one..

    Going by Google's TOS.. uses of google imagery/maps like this are a huge no-no in their books. Funny thing though, there are a lot of sites out there that use GE imagery in a TOS breaking way.

    Wonder what will happen when Google finnaly decides it has to put it's foot down globally and stop the "It is ok for you, but NOT ok for you" game.

  23. I smell a rat... by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    The article, supposedly written by the developer, says you can hook up a GPS through the PSP's serial port. Last time I checked, the PSP doesn't have a serial port...

    1. Re:I smell a rat... by Winckle · · Score: 1

      Universal Serial Bus

    2. Re:I smell a rat... by Shemmie · · Score: 1

      I believe it was established that the port next to the earphone socket was a functioning serial port - http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:98YmnohLNdEJ:ni l.rpc1.org/psp/files/PSP%2520Serial%2520Converter. pdf+psp+serial+port&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2&clien t=firefox-a (PSP/RS232 Serial Converter)

    3. Re:I smell a rat... by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

      I did not know that. Thanks.

  24. Apparently not. by porkchop_d_clown · · Score: 1

    As the other reply to my comment indicates, apparently the jack where you hook up the PSP's "headphone remote" is actually a serial port.

  25. Bah by ElleyKitten · · Score: 1

    Give me more games, not more wierd shit. While I love Valkyrie Profile, can I have some good games that are not Playstation ports? Gamers by game systems to play games, so game makers should focus on giving us games to play.

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  26. Nintendo DS. by Agilo · · Score: 1
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  27. Just imagine... by liak12345 · · Score: 1

    With global positioning, a mapping tool, and wi-fi all on the PSP we can get an accurate real-time map of every landfill in the United States.

  28. My views by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Im not going to debate the merits/flaws of the PSP, but anyone who has one knows that its an amazing piece of hardware with much potential. It has been crippled to death by Sony, and aimed at a younger audience to sell video games to. (I thought the "Plumber" reference was the funniest thing I ve seen in a while). Sony supposedly loses money on each PSP they sell, with hopes of making it back by licensing the games they sell to "Little Johnny"

    So on one hand you have Sony, a global, multi-billion dollar corporation, devoting huge resources to keeping this device crippled and as closed-source a device as possible, vowing to "eventually eliminate the homebrew community"

    On the other hand, you have a 'community' of people sharing information, disecting units, scouring through code to make their $200 "gameboy" do other things. Like stream media wirelessly from a PC, surf the internet, scan for wireless networks, control any infrared device, and much more.

      The homebrew GPS navigation is a huge development. It first involves a hardware hack to interface a GPS reciever to the PSP, and then deploying the software. Is it as good as say a $500 Tom-Tom? No. But it probably will be, eventually. I imagine that you could easily emulate any of the very-expensive GPS nav. units on the market with the PSP.

    Dad is gonna wonder why he blew $350-700 on a GPS when "Little Johnny's gameboy" does the job just as well. Plus Johnny can watch pr0n or play GTA on his GPS. Dad's GPS just does...GPS.

    Sony announced earlier this year they would be releasing a GPS for the PSP in the US this Fall.

    I guess the real debate should be whether people should give a sh*t about whether the big-corporation's business model makes them money or not, or whether that corporation has the right to dictate what you do with a product after the sale.

    Anonymous Noob

  29. Re:GPS reciver? by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 1

    Not exactly sure how this was moded flamebait, but ok. Aparently stateing facts is a bad thing.