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PS3 Performance Downgraded Again
Heartless Gamer writes "The PS3's performance has been downgraded again, according to the Inquirer." From the article: "We can't tell you why the GPU lost nearly 10% of it's clock, it could be an NVidia screwup, or it could be Sony/Cell. Either way, it just became much less of an overwhelming value, but you get a DRM infected drive for 'free' either way." Interesting, but keep in mind this is The Inquirer. 9 out of 10 doctors recommend salt with their articles. Relatedly, the choice comments from Penny Arcade this past weekend about Sony's console are wandering around the internets today. From that article: "We've already talked about it, there's no chance we're buying a PS3 at launch."
maybe this downgrade will affect the PS3 price to make it more competetive compared to Wii and 360?
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The P3 might become a flop of E.T proportions.
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"We've already talked about it, there's no chance we're buying a PS3 at launch."
Ouch. That's not good for Sony. You may or may not know who Gabe and Tycho are, but if you do know them, you know they also run PAX. Which is a very large user-centric games show. (Unlike E3).
These guys are hardcore gamers, that's not the kind of comment you want from guys that have this much clout.
I repeat. Ouch.
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directly from the article...
You teh sux0r 2 sae teh PS3 is not going to teh r0x0r! Yew lie, yew 360 luvr. U teh sux! U maek thing up, go die!!!1111one!1!!!1 heheheheh
This is part of a larger Sony initiative. Lower expectations across the board, with all demographics. Once expectations have hit rock bottom, it's easy to exceed them! Imagine if Sony were to drop the price by $50 or increase clock speed by 5%.
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We can't tell you why the GPU lost nearly 10% of it's clock, it could be an NVidia screwup, or it could be Sony/Cell. Have they checked for a rootkit?
Given the crap that Sony Officials have already talked about PS3, I'd take your comment here with a pinch of salt roughly the size of Uranus.
I have to say their article about the speed of the read from GPU memory by each processing element was pretty misleading. I did a bit of research and that indicated that real software will virtually never read from the GPU and even if it does, there is a workaround of going through main memory. While it is obvious that there have been big problems getting the PS3 up and running, I think we should wait for the hardware. These things have a habit of all coming together. We've already heard that the supposedly awful yeilds on the Cell are not as bad as thought. It's the cost issue that'll screw Sony if they don't budge. People are used to $20 DVD players and aren't going to place the extra value on a Blu-ray player that Sony seem to think. There's no way I'm paying 400UKP for a console, especially now they've lost exclusivity on GTA. It just isn't going to happen.
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While I'm sure Sony will not disappear, it is far too large for that, unless it returns to it's prior days of creativity, quality, and innvoation, they will certainly go the way of Panasonic. That being stagnation and mediocrity in the marketplace.
The thing about it is that Sony will downgrade their hardware as often as they want and STILL we will hear trash talk from the Execs and higher-ups about how their hardware is going to outperform and outsell the other consoles. And they'll back up this arrogance by not moving their price point an inch. Sony seems to think that the PS2 success will drive PS3 sales. Most serious video game enthusiasts seem to think otherwise. Sony needs to wake up and start doing some serious damage control after the PAX incident, with Gabe and Tycho endorsing the "Wii60" over the PS3.
I once sent an e-mail to one of there "journalists" pointing out an error. I got perhaps the most childish response imaginable back. They have zero integrity and don't even appear to give two shits about the validity of the information they put out.
Regardless of what I might think about Sony and the PS3, I certainly am not going to believe something just because it comes from those jokers.
Exactly, even if PS3 does poorly, they have huge laptop battery sales to Apple and Dell to make up for it.
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I know you're just the AC Sony Fanboy Troll, but in North America the XBox 360 is performing in the same sales range (Hardware wise) as both the PS2 and XBox were at the same point in their life; software wise the XBox 360 is selling far more software then either the PS2 or XBox did after 9 months. I have no love for the XBox (or XBox 360) but only a fool would not see that it will be the platform to beat in North America; with Microsoft's lock on good simulation soccer games it could take a big chunk of the european market as well. Sony is going to lose a large chunk of their market share this generation, the only real question is how much they are going to lose?
Lets see what's In the box...
Nothing!
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I would have used Pluto, but that poor guy just doesn't carry the clout he used to :(
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The problem is that programming games on the Cell is hard. Remember when Sony dropped the Aibo and dropped out of robotics and AI research? That was partially because all the bright people were needed to make the PS3 work. Non-shared memory multiprocessors with modest per-CPU memory are very hard to program. Their history, from the ILLIAC IV to the BBN Butterfly to the Ncube, has not been impressive. Whole new approaches are needed. In time for the game developers to be ready for the Xmas shopping season.
That's the problem. Sony needs a miracle of programming on a very short timetable.
Microsoft, however, does not. The XBox 360 is just a 3-CPU shared memory computer. It's quite conventional.
Progress is being made, but realistically, the games available for the PS3 at launch will probably be doing too much in the main CPU and the Cell processors will be underutilized.
On the hardware front, if Sony is making changes to the hardware spec this late, there's a good chance they will miss the holiday season. It's September already. As of late August, PS3 manufacturing hadn't even started. For the holiday season, merchandise has to be in the stores by November 1. And that's after shipping and warehousing. Realistically, Sony has about six weeks to freeze the product, get manufacturing running, and get product out in volume.
It's probably too late for this year. They might manage a small-volume prelaunch, like Microsoft did last year.
Sony's moneymaker for this holiday season will be the PS2, which, at $129, is going to look very attractive to parents.