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AT&T Breached, Exposes 19,000 Identities

mytrip writes to tell us News.com is reporting that a recent attack on AT&T's systems saw thousands of customers' personal data compromised. About 19,000 customers of AT&T's online store who purchased equipment for a DSL connection were affected. From the article: "AT&T is offering to pay for credit monitoring services for customers whose accounts have been impacted because they could be at risk of identity fraud. The company also has made available a toll-free number to affected customers to call for more information."

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  1. Perhaps an appropriate punishment by Bromskloss · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...for using AT&T.

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    1. Re:Perhaps an appropriate punishment by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be fine if AT&T were the only company having these problems.
      Has ANYONE set up a clearinghouse for these security breaches so I can keep an eye on where (not if) my private information is leaking?

  2. O RLY? by abscissa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They will pay for credit monitoring services, but will they pay for all the liability from a stolen ID? That can reach into the hundreds of thousands of dollars in real damage.

    1. Re:O RLY? by TIMxPx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good point. I suppose that a person releasing 1 million copies of a CD should expect the same level of privacy as a person who submits encrypted credit card information. Oh wait, maybe not.

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    2. Re:O RLY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > It wasn't stolen, it was "shared". Making a copy doesn't take anything away from the original owners, right? They still have their names, social security numbers, etc.

      It wasn't shared (that implies willingness). If anything, it was "exposed", because it was suposed to be secret or confidential information, something a Britney Spears CD is not (but I would not arge with you if it should).

    3. Re:O RLY? by jackbird · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It wasn't stolen, it was "shared". Making a copy doesn't take anything away from the original owners, right? They still have their names, social security numbers, etc.

      That's true. And if the identity thieves stop there, simply filing their collection of stolen identities away and displaying a few choice specimens above the mantle for when guests come over, I don't have a problem with it (well a small one, but I can deal).

      When the identity thieves use those stolen identities to clean out bank accounts, take out fradulent loans, and steal real, physical goods using credit cards in the victim's name, then they do take something the owner no longer has. IHBT. HAND.

    4. Re:O RLY? by Evro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I imagine if someone was copying the information simply to have it, it wouldn't be a big deal. But the fact is that they're copying it for the purposes of identity theft, which translates to real dollars-and-cents costs for the victims. Copying a CD is not the same thing as copying someone's credit card number, which implies using that number to purchase goods with the stolen information. Your argument is cute but specious.

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  3. Thats exactly why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I choose to be an Anonymous Coward.

  4. Only "thousands"? by KiloByte · · Score: 4, Interesting
    thousands of customer's
    Wait, so an one-time spill of the data of just mere thousands of customers (no "'") are suddenly news, and everyone forgets about ongoing constant spilling of the data of 299 millions? Interesting...
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    1. Re:Only "thousands"? by azaroth42 · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Will the CTO of AT&T resign like AOL's did over the search history release, which was significantly less damaging than this.

      I'm putting my money on No, personally.

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    2. Re:Only "thousands"? by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Insightful

      To you and the GP:
      This was a break-in, not a "spill", which was detected by AT;&T, on the weekend at which time they took very active measures (shutting down the site and contacting credit card companies). Sounds to me like they have some pretty good procedures in place already; you know, the kind of thing a CTO is responsible for.

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    3. Re:Only "thousands"? by balsy2001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am in the military and have had my personal information lost/stolen 3 times in the last 18 months. 1) By bank of american "shipping" backup tapes of my account history and other gov crad holders in the back of somones car, 2) Veterans Affairs laptop, 3) Someone hacking into the DOE. This kind of thing happens all of the time and there aren't any real consequences for anyone in either the public or private sectore. As you all may remember the VA loss affected 26 MILLION people.

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  5. Re:not my fault... by legoburner · · Score: 4, Funny
    no wonder i have shitty credit... ppl keep stealing my identity... how do i start a new credit report?

    Steal someone's identity.
  6. Look, shit happens to the best of us. by Pink+Tinkletini · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not saying AT&T is "the best of us," but your proposed remedies are fucking childish. Do you also support capital punishment for late pizza delivery?

    1. Re:Look, shit happens to the best of us. by DesireCampbell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If AT&T is the pizza guy, they didn't show up late; they showed up with shitty pizza, charged me way too much for it, has been regularly giving my delivery records (including my name, number, address, pizza info, time of delivery, etc.) to the NSA, and have such slip-shod security that information gets leaked putting me (and 19,000 other pizza loving customers) at risk for identity fraud.

      Late pizza is the least of my worries.

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  7. Re:"...customers were effected" by Pointdexter · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, it's not like the editors couldn't of fixed that.

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  8. Re:"...customers were effected" by asylumx · · Score: 3, Informative

    While we're at it.... "thousands of customer's personal..." should be "thousands of customers' personal..." in the write-up. Why do we call the folks that run Slashdot "Editors" anyway?

  9. Stop collecting SS# by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These companies need to stop collecting this information in the first place. There is no need for AT&T to have this at all to do their business. Last I checked they aren't the Social Security department.

  10. Good for them by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The news here isn't that some incompetent set up their systems, nor that they were cracked. The news is that they've responded openly and meaningfully, without trying to deny it or play down the scale of what happened. I wouldn't be hurrying to sign up to their service because of it, but it certainly doesn't bias me against them. Honesty and integrity are rare enough qualities in corporations that we should applaud them when they claw their way past the lawyers and PR weasels.

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  11. It looks like . . . by Don_dumb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    . . . AOL is off the hook.

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  12. Steal identity? by homer_s · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can anyone steal someone else's identity? Oh, you mean they stole people's social security numbers. That should not be a problem, because as we all know, ss numbers are not meant to be used for identification.

    The real problem is companies and the govt using SS# for identification. At this point, about 50 ppl know my SS# - the librarian, the assistant at my school, the clerk in the bank, etc, etc. - so any of these people can harm if they don't like me for some reason? This is stupid.

    So what next? Some company decides they are going to use FIRSTNAME_LASTNAME as the id and we are all supposed to keep our names a secret? And run around complaining when our 'identity' (FIRSTNAME_LASTNAME) is stolen?

    In many countries, you need a notarised signature to obtain loans, etc. While not foolproof, you can always prove it was not you and it takes more effort to commit fraud.

    1. Re:Steal identity? by russ1337 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That is why, when they ask for my SSN, i say "I don't have one"... They say "huh? *dumbest look on their face*" and I tell them "I was born overseas and do not have one... and you shouln't need it anyway....."... It usually works. I've nearly always had to pay a higher deposit ('cos they cant check my credit), but its a small price to pay to not give my SSN to the library / power company / phone company / old navy / lunchlady...

  13. Heck, frankly... by skids · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wouldn't even be so sure of that. Nowadays whenever I see any corporation saying they take responsibility for something, I immediately suspect another yesmen prank.

    Now that may not be very likely, but if I were the yesmen, I'd be perched and waiting for another ID theft scandal, because nothing would be more meta than stealing the ID of a PR person handling an ID theft incident.

  14. This goes back to the original problem.. by saboola · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You should not be able to do so much damage with a simple number and some extra data. It is ridiculous that armed with merely this amount of information one could cause so much damage. The system needs to be completely reworked.

  15. Scope Creeps by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Corporations should not be allowed to store personal info longer than the duration of the transaction, or transmit it outside the scope of the transaction. AT&T should be prosecuted for liability, including lifetime exposure to ID fraud. AT&T security and policy managers and directors should hold personal liability, piercing the corporate liability veil.

    Then we'd see American corporations rush to rewire their databases to protect customers, instead of protecting their advantages in charging and marketing to us, and the risk that their few bucks benefit will destroy our lives.

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  16. Why go to all the trouble break in? by kasparov · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hell, they probably could have just *asked* for the information and AT&T would have handed it over...

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  17. Re:Where there's smoke by King_TJ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Huh? The responsibility for that illegal operation should rest squarely on the shoulders of the current presidential administration. You can't reasonably expect any company in AT&T's position not to comply with something like that - no matter how evil the request is.

    Ultimately, they're put betweewn "a rock and a hard place" because they have no immediate legal recourse for a demand placed on them from the highest level of government. They're already govt. regulated as it is - and failure to comply with such an order could effectively put a freeze on their ability to do business at all.

    I think their smartest business move was to just go along with things, but not to interfere when it gets challenged in court either. This is between the govt. and the people, with AT&T getting drug into the middle of things because they owned the technology that needed to be tapped into to make the spying plans work.

  18. Who modded the troll up? by phorm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seriously, that is disgusting. The article is completely unrelated to filesharing, and focusses on poor security. It also overlooks that the "information wants to be free" zealot crowd aren't necessarily the same as those in the information-security crowd. Either crowd also tends to be happy when somebody is nailed for trying to sell copied articles.

    Copyright won't protect your personal information in any way. So perhaps you should go troll an RIAA article now. Perhaps if there's an article about how a filesharer with 1000 copyrighted songs had his personal info distributed by a p2p virus you can happily troll away. In the meanwhile, I think your name of "BS artist" pretty much fits.

    Not all information wants to be free. Wanting to have free (as in choice) software is different from wanting my personal credit info out in the wild, or having a glass-toilet in a glass-bathroom.

  19. Re:No copyright by bsartist · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The only thing on a SS-card or a credit card might be the artwork, everything else has no copyright.
    I used the term "principle" for a reason. The principle I'm referring to is control. The legal technicalities are different - which is why I specifically did not refer to them. But the principle is the same: the right of a person to control and/or limit the distribution of specific bits of information. To demand that right for one's self while at the same time trying to deny it to others is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
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  20. Looks like I was on that list by killermookie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This email contains important information that requires your immediate
    attention. Please do not reply to this e-mail; instead please use the
    telephone number provided below if you wish to contact us.

    You previously placed an order with AT&T for DSL-related equipment
    through the http://www.sbcdslstore.com/ Website, at which time you
    provided certain information including your name, address, e-mail
    address, phone number, credit card number and credit card expiration.
    (This information did not include your Social Security Number, Driver's
    License Number, date of birth, or other identifying information.) AT&T
    has learned that a computer containing the information you provided has
    been accessed by an unauthorized person, who may have obtained this
    information about you.

    In addition, AT&T also believes that some customers who purchased
    DSL-related equipment from us through this same website may be receiving
    e-mails that appear to be from AT&T, but actually are being generated by
    an unauthorized third-party (a practice known as "phishing"). These
    e-mails refer to your prior order with AT&T and request that you
    provide additional personal information such as your Social Security
    Number, date of birth, or another credit card number and expiration date.
    Please be advised that these e-mails are not being sent by AT&T and are not
    legitimate. Do not respond to these e-mails or otherwise provide any of your
    personal information in response or at any Website to which the e-mail may
    refer you.
    We sincerely regret that a third party was able to gain improper access
    to your order information and we are working diligently with law enforcement
    and major credit card companies to limit your potential exposure. Although
    your 3-digit credit card verification number (from the back of your card)
    was not stored, and therefore not accessed, we strongly suggest that you
    contact your credit card company directly to report this suspected incident
    and to protect the credit card you used to purchase this equipment from any
    unauthorized activity.

    In addition, we suggest that you contact the fraud departments of any one of
    the three major credit-reporting agencies and let them know you may be a
    potential victim of identity theft. That agency will notify the other two.
    Through that process, a "fraud alert" will automatically be placed in each
    of your three credit reports to notify creditors not to issue new credit in
    your name without gaining your permission. For your convenience, we have
    included contact information for all three credit reporting agencies:

    Equifax
    P.O. Box 740241
    Atlanta GA 30374
    To report fraud: 1-888-766-0008
    Website: http://www.equifax.com/

    Experian
    P.O. Box 2002
    Allen, TX 75013
    To Report Fraud: 1-888-397-3742
    Website: http://www.experian.com/

    TransUnion
    Post Office Box 6790
    Fullerton, CA 92834
    To Report Fraud: 1-800-680-7289
    Website: http://www.transunion.com/

    Lastly, to provide further security, AT&T is arranging to provide you the
    option of enrolling for one year, at no cost to you, in a credit monitoring
    service specifically designed to notify you of changes to your credit report
    activity in order to detect fraudulent bank or credit card use. The service
    will be provided by one of the major credit reporting agencies. We will
    provide specific information on this option as part of a letter you will
    receive via U.S. Mail in the next few days.

    Again, we regret this unauthorized and unlawful access to your order
    information and are working with law enforcement to pursue those who
    are responsible. We are also reviewing applicable security procedures
    in an effort to prevent an incident like this from recurring. Should yo