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Mandriva 2007 RC1 Released
boklm writes "The first Mandriva 2007 release candidate (codename Mona) is out. The final version is due soon.
2007's new features include Gnome 2.16 with New 'Ia Ora' Mandriva Theme, parallel initscript (for faster boot), 3D desktop (with both AIGLX and Xgl to support more graphic cards). Installable Live-CDs including Gnome or KDE are available in different languages, and because it is a live-cd it is possible to try it without installing. Don't forget to report bugs if you find them, in order to get a solid final release."
Do people even stull use this distro? Everything it does, Ubuntu does better.
Personally, I prefer Gentoo, but for what Mandrake^H^H^Hiva is supposed to be, is there really a userbase for it anymore?
This is not the greatest
Seems like everyone is coming out with a release candidate for next year.
There was a time, when Linux distros were measured by how close they were to in terms of functionality to MS Windows. Now they are inovating like crazy and this 3D desktop from Mandriva beats anything that will ship in Vista.
As a long time user of Mandrake till about two years ago I'd like to ask a very simple question; what is its place in todays modern Linux desktop world?
This isn't a troll or a flame as I enjoyed using MDK back in the day though really it is still as bloated and confusing as when I used to use it (I've played with the latest version extensively). Ubuntu and Novell SLED seem to serve the purpose that Mandrake used to fill far more effectively and I can't help but think that those still working on the free parts of Mandrake are wasting resources that could be more effectively used to help other areas in more up to date (philosophy wise) distros...Like decent GUI tools for wireless networking!
I ate your fish.
Man, I ran it on my Macbook Pro and shit it got hot....
A 'release candidate' is equivalent to a final release in all respects except name. It is a candidate for release. The development team believes that this build is as bug free and featured filled as it needs to be and is branded a release candidate. It is then sent over to testing (or to users as is more frequently the case) where it undergoes final testing. If it passes final testing, it is rebadged as RTM, but THE SAME BITS GO INTO AN RC AS TO AN RTM. This isn't a testing release or a beta release where you are expected to find and squash bugs. The bugs are expected to be worked out of the system or are so uninteresting as to not warrant further development time.
If you find a serious bug in an RC, someone, somewhere fucked up royally.
By the time their final release is ready we will have Ulteo to play with. http://www.ulteo.com/main/
Common sense is not so common
While their video does show (some) of the things that the 3D desktop can do, it's actually *far* smoother in real life. Possibly they recorded it on a machine that was too slow to run the app and xvidcap at the same time.
Up to this point it's been a bit of a pain in the backside to set up but now distros are integrating it the next batch of releases should make it trivial.
Compiz and co are really slick and I find it rather amusing that everyeone *except* the world's biggest software company has managed to get their next generation desktop released prior to 2007.
Think of the Children; Sleep with your Sister
I would like to see how far Linux has come since Redhat 5.x (my last test-run) but I see that to use my dial-up modem beyond 16k I first need to get the US$20 driver for my chipset. The instructions to get it working are unnerving for a soft, indulged, undisciplined XP user like me. Thanks but no thanks.
I love how there are thirteen different versions and it tells you nothing about the differences except languages and whether it has non free software. I dont care a whit for software ideals. If your software isnt going to work because you are unable or unwilling to include drivers for common graphics cards then I won't be able to try it.
This has to be the worst way to release an iso ever, the downloads page has everything you need.. EXCEPT for the download link. So does anyone have a torrent to the install dvd?
Mona means "c**t" (female reproductive organ) in an italian dialect...
My university college runs Mandrake on basically all lab computers (dual boot with Windows). Doesn't answer the question, but some people seem to prefer it. If there's a future there, well who knows.
The administration tools of Mandriva are *a lot* better than Ubuntu's. Have you read all the blog posts about how difficult it was to get a printer working with Dapper's default Cups configuration. In Mandriva, your printer will be configured automagically during install if it is switched on or connected to the network, and after install, it suffices to start an automatic detection of printers, and there you go.
Mandriva also has graphical tools for configuring a basic firewall, setting up xgl and aiglx, configuring a VPN connection, configuring back-ups, configuring your UPS,.. Ubuntu has none of these.
Thanks to parallell init, Mandriva 2007.0 also boots faster than Dapper, and it has a more recent kernel and better support of some very recent hardware. Remember that Ubuntu is already some months out.
I've been running Mandriva/Mandrake off and on since 7.0 It's now my OS of choice since the 2005 LE release. The reason I like Mandriva so much is that it is based on Red Hat which a lot of workplaces use as their server OS. This means the enviroment I use at home is similar to what I use at work, I need my /etc/sysconfig/. Ubuntu feels foreign to me as I just don't like the way things are set up and it' s only on one CD so you need a net connection when you want more software, the foreign feeling also goes for SuSe (YAST is terrible). So why don't I run Fedora? Well I find that in terms of configuration tools and package management (urpmi) Mandriva is better suited for the home Desktop than Fedora is. I run Fedora 3 on my testbed system, a minimal install without an X server.
Why don't you spend the US$20 on a real modem that doesn't tie you to a single platform? You'll likely get better performance too.
If you bought $HARDWARE that only works in Windows, the manufacturer won't release drivers for any other OS and won't release information needed to build a driver except under per-user license fee, don't try to blame Linux because there is no free driver. Purchasing decisions such as yours led to this problem in the first place.
If you're going to stick with Windows, can you at least try to avoid buying Windows-only hardware in the future?
I like mandriva because: - lots of packages updated in cooker which has lots of mirrors - it is not biased towards any desktop environment - has zshell well configured that boost productivity in shell, as opposite to ubuntu that seems more of a MS invention to keep people out of their keyboards that are a great power of linux - penguin liberation front - in 2006 release the kernel was compiled by the intel compiler giving the fastest boot time i ever seen on a distro - makes great use of dkms to install kernel modules on boot and the kernel comes with a great configuration, i never needed to compile a kernel since i moved from slackware The only true competition (have enough packages available) are : - suse : they suck in latest software, where are the distros ?!?!? - gentoo : productivity sucks because everything needs to be compiled, no interfaces, PAINFULL !!!! 10 years ago this would be ok, not now. - ?ubuntu : sudo ? sudomania is not for me... typing the password 100 for 100 commands ... is that safe ? just keep asking the sysadmin some commands while you take notes of the password.
Despite users not participating much in slashdot it can be seen that the distro is very active from the package contributions and if someday i have to switch to other linux i will be in big trouble because all of them SUCK.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5792753647 750188322&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en
From the parent: "Ubuntu feels foreign to me as I just don't like the way things are set up and it' s only on one CD so you need a net connection when you want more software"
All I said was that Ubuntu has a DVD download, meaning that you don't need an internet connection when you want to get more software, I *never* said that other distros don't have a DVD download... Where on earth did you get that from?? All I was doing was informing him/her that a lack of internet connection on an Ubuntu box isn't a problem
Honestly you sound like you have a real problem with Ubuntu users. Why? Ubuntu is nice for those of us who want simplicity (I am not saying other distros don't offer this, Ubuntu is just one of those that does).
The Linux = Ubuntu thing? It just happens, the amount of times I have heard "I am using Linux 3" when they are refering to Fedora Core 3 or such...
In one italian city slang "mona" means "pussy".
Are mandriva folks heading toward Lesbian GNU/Linux?
It's amazing the difference some details can make: my environment of choice is Windowmaker, and Mandriva is, as far as I know, the only distrib that integrates it properly (read recent release and menu consistent with the distrib witout having to set it up). I know many will say Windowmaker is a thing of the past, but at least you can switch between virtual desktop using the wheel.
If you want to do that in Gnome Ubuntu, you have to switch from metacity to openbox, but then trying to use the update manager crashes the system.
Not to mention that I like having a control center you can start up with one click/command. Since it's gpl, I still don't understand why nobody (except PCLinuxOS which is a spin-off anyway) has grabbed it yet. It may need some tweaking to do so, but I feel it'd fit perfectly well in a distro such as Ubuntu.
Whether he'll something out before the kinks are worked out of 2007 is an entire different thing altogether
Similarly to you, I had made the switch from Mandrake to Kubuntu; for me, it was a year ago. I found that, unlike the k/Ubuntu distros, upgrading Mandrake didn't work, so I had to keep reinstalling from scratch, putting all my config tweaks into a script file so that I could easily reproduce them after I had made yet another clean install of the newest version. Urpmi was easy to use but would produce broken installations from time to time; I didn't realize what the problem was until I read about how other people had no problems with other package managers. (Example: I installed third-party packages, such as "Thac's RPMs", and urpmi happily installed them without telling me that the dependencies were messed up.) I got tired of reinstalling new versions every time a new version came out, so I stopped at v10.0-official (which is why I still call it Mandrake, since the silly "Mandriva" name change didn't come until later).
Like you, I found that Mandrake/Mandriva's printer config for my HP PSC-1210 worked smoothly whereas Kubuntu's doesn't. Where exactly did you find the printer config files (pathnames), and where did you insert them into Kubuntu to make it work? I would love to know details. If a reply to this posting is not appropriate, please email me at "kwtm-zrezwtid" under tamlylin stripe net, except replace "under" with "at" and "stripe" with "dot". Thanks.
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