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RNA Interference Leads To Nobel Prize

gollum123 writes "The Nobel Prize for medicine has been awarded to two US scientists who discovered a phenomenon called RNA interference, which regulates the expression of genes. From the article: 'The breakthrough has also given scientists the ability to systematically test the functions of all human genes. [...] The Nobel citation, issued by Sweden's Karolinska Institute, said: "This year's Nobel Laureates have discovered a fundamental mechanism for controlling the flow of genetic information."'"

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  1. oh-oh... genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    for all you Americans read that as

    "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala genetics lalalalalalalalalalalalaa"

    just like the guvmint does. OK?

    we'll let you know when it's all clear.

    1. Re:oh-oh... genetics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we'll let you know when it's all clear.

      Thanks, shithead!

    2. Re:oh-oh... genetics by ccmay · · Score: 2, Interesting
      for all you Americans read that as "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalala genetics lalalalalalalalalalalalaa"

      Sometimes I wonder if Eurotrash sneering at the supposed lack of scientific sophistication here is related to insecurity over the "brain drain" from Europe to America that has helped give us more Nobel prizes than any other nation by far.

      -ccm

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    3. Re:oh-oh... genetics by someone1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I read somewhere that this so called 'brain drain' has been reversed for genetics. Asia is now leading in this kind of research.
      I think the GP post meant this too.

      Playing with the gene knobs is surely not what we, humble creations of the Intelligent Designer, are allowed to do.
      That's what the guvner said, hmm?

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    4. Re:oh-oh... genetics by hcob$ · · Score: 1
      Asia is now leading in this kind of research. I think the GP post meant this too.
      It seems easy to lead when you FORGE data... but oh well.
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    5. Re:oh-oh... genetics by sparr0w · · Score: 1

      Actually, since it was two American scientists that discovered the RNA interference, WE'LL let you know when it's all clear!

    6. Re:oh-oh... genetics by ccmay · · Score: 1
      I read somewhere that this so called 'brain drain' has been reversed for genetics.

      Say, looky looky at the news this morning. Four more American Nobel laureates, including two who won the Medicine prize for work on RNA interference. Some brain drain, eh?

      -ccm

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    7. Re:oh-oh... genetics by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for stuff they did 8 years ago.

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    8. Re:oh-oh... genetics by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

      In the moment I saw this on the news I said: "Are americans still allowed to research on genetics? Where has Bush failed?" Of course, I meant this as a joke and people at home laughed. But if you have ever seen stand-up comedy, you know that it's funny because it's the truth.

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    9. Re:oh-oh... genetics by HiggsBison · · Score: 1

      Playing with the gene knobs is surely not what we, humble creations of the Intelligent Designer, are allowed to do.

      "In a general way, man's evolutionary destiny is in his own hands, and scientific intelligence must sooner or later supersede the random functioning of uncontrolled natural selection and chance survival."-the Urantia Book p. 734.

      So, you see, I not only believe in evolution and intelligent design, I also believe that God wants us to "Play with the gene knobs".

      Hehe. Weird, huh?

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    10. Re:oh-oh... genetics by Tim+C · · Score: 1

      Well, for my part it's a reaction to the "USA! USA! America is the greatest!" message that permeates much of your cultural output and political attitude and manoeuvrings. Your reaction to what was clearly a joke doesn't do much to help, either...

  2. *Shakes Head* by Digital+Mage · · Score: 1

    For a second there I thought the title said "RIAA Interference Leads To Nobel Prize". I have found their interference with people's lives to be creative, but Nobel Prize worthy...hardly.

    1. Re:*Shakes Head* by JediLow · · Score: 1

      Is it bad that at first glance thats what I thought as well...?

    2. Re:*Shakes Head* by momerath2003 · · Score: 1

      Me too...

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    3. Re:*Shakes Head* by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

      Interfering *WITH* the RIAA, now that IMO would be worthy of a Nobel prize.

  3. in other news... by macadamia_harold · · Score: 3, Funny

    The Nobel Prize for medicine has been awarded to two US scientists who discovered a phenomenon called RNA interference, which regulates the expression of genes.

    In other news, President Bush has awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor to two US scientists who discovered the gene which regulates the expression of opinion.

    1. Re:In other news... by eebra82 · · Score: 3, Informative

      This news was announced October 2. I checked the Swedish news papers who are very accurate when it comes to Noble prize awards (it's a Swedish prize after all).

      On October 3, they will announce the winner(s) in physics, followed by chemistry the day after. Prize in economy, October 9.

    2. Re:In other news... by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 1

      /. has no clothes. It's run by ftp uploads on auto-timer drops into the website. What you are seeing is the equivalent of digital radio in text

    3. Re:In other news... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but they gave it to John Nash.

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    4. Re:in other news... by Speare · · Score: 1
      President Bush has awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor to two US scientists who discovered the gene which regulates the expression of opinion.

      No, silly, that's RNC interference.

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  4. And all of you athiests have been so smug... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I'd like all of you to take note of how the RNA looks like a cross. Go on, look at the pretty photo that comes with the article.

    This is because God intelligently designed RNA, all those two thousand years ago.

    1. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure about a cross, but it sure does look like a Maxipad with wings. I think the "God's a woman" crowd may have something, there.

    2. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by reverseengineer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "cloverleaf," or cross shape which is indicative of tRNA is only its secondary structure- the 3D form it assumes in vivo looks more like an "L" shape, as seen here.

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    3. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by achesterase · · Score: 1

      Yes, but it's the mRNA that is interfered with, not the tRNA.

    4. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by Gryle · · Score: 1

      That would explain why life is hell once a month

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    5. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by kalirion · · Score: 1

      Two thousand years ago? So people (and animals, insects, etc) lived without RNA until Jesus came along? Hmm, that changes everything!

    6. Re:And all of you athiests have been so smug... by Zaatxe · · Score: 2

      Remember, kids... "Intelligent Design" doesn't imply "Designed Intelligent".

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  5. Paper tape by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2

    It seems that DNA is the 'paper tape' component of the genetic Turing machine. mRNA seems to be the data bus and RNA interference is the ALU.

    If the basic building blocks of life (genes) can be reduced to algorithms, how much longer until we can reduce the rest of our bodies to computer-replicable algorithms?

    1. Re:Paper tape by Corynorhinus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unfortunately its not that simple. The "central dogma" of DNA --> RNA --> Protein has been steadily added to over the past 20 years. Mechanisms such as RNAi have been added to a growing list of different regulatory levels, from transcription to translation, alternative splicing, to protein modifications, to chromatin density...etc. Discoveries like RNAi continually show us that our "programming language" is much more complex than feeding instructions on a paper tape.

    2. Re:Paper tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the basic building blocks of life (genes) can be reduced to algorithms, how much longer until we can reduce the rest of our bodies to computer-replicable algorithms?

      It depends on how long it takes us to come up with a quantum computer able to emulate a few trillion cells. In other words, it's probably okay to get that 30-year mortgage.

    3. Re:Paper tape by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Displaying a comment on a weblog in a browser in a windowing user environment on an OS running on a slew of hardware components each handling its own logic and interfacing with each other is also a very complex task. Yet it is still reduceable to instructions on a paper tape.

    4. Re:Paper tape by Corynorhinus · · Score: 5, Informative

      DNA doesn't tell you the whole story. A developing zygote doesn't respond only to its own genetic makeup, but also to prepackaged mRNA signals from the parents, whose DNA differs from that of the zygote. The zygote's environment and packaging determines its phenotype as much as its own DNA does in the early stages of development. Viruses that convert RNA to DNA show that the messaging isn't one-way and that DNA can be reprogrammed on the fly. It is this adaptability that makes living things so adaptable and diverse. If DNA was merely a static instruction set, the diversity and complexity of life we see today wouldn't be possible.

    5. Re:Paper tape by TheDreadSlashdotterD · · Score: 1

      All hail the machine lord! Glory to all robo kind!

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    6. Re:Paper tape by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you're saying that in addition to the program data on the tape, that additional environmental factors such as mRNA and RNAi (aka the HW platform) are just as much part of the total machine as the data is.

    7. Re:Paper tape by Corynorhinus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, but due to a few billion years of evolution, the interactions between the genome, the protein interaction networks, and RNA signalling make the prospect of writing code for life forms almost as bad as writing Windows Vista in BASIC, Java, and Lisp combined... I wish it was easier (I work in the computational biology field) but evolution doesn't comment its code very well.

    8. Re:Paper tape by Shadyman · · Score: 1

      Discoveries like RNAi continually show us that our "programming language" is much more complex than feeding instructions on a paper tape.

      Not paper tape... punchcards! The way of the future!

    9. Re:Paper tape by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sounds like a Linux distro, to be honest.

    10. Re:Paper tape by glwtta · · Score: 4, Informative

      It seems that DNA is the 'paper tape' component of the genetic Turing machine. mRNA seems to be the data bus and RNA interference is the ALU.

      In the "Genetic Turing Machine" the 'tape' is comprised of DNA, RNA (in various forms), and proteins; the 'head' is mostly protein and RNA; and the FSM involves DNA, RNA, and protein. Oh, with some other crap, like metals, sprinkled throughout. Information is encoded in DNA and various other epigenetic systems (about which we know very little at this point). Reading and writing from/to this 'tape' is accomplished with mechanisms built from proteins and RNA, proteins whose production is regulated by other proteins and various forms of RNA.

      There is no similarity in the fundamental workings of biological systems and computers, except perhaps (depending how you feel about the Church-Turing thesis) their computability power.

      Computer metaphors are generally useless, whether you are trying to explain computers using cars, or humans using computers.

      Oh, but reducing our bodies to algorithms is simple - all you have to do is model the physicals properties of all the atoms that comprise the body. It's simply a matter of processing power.

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    11. Re:Paper tape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You know what?

      It doesn't matter. You and anyone else in the world can believe what you want, it is how it is and belief won't change it.

    12. Re:Paper tape by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1
      Viruses that convert RNA to DNA show that the messaging isn't one-way and that DNA can be reprogrammed on the fly

      Do you mean to say that viruses could be introduced into an organism to change DNA? If so would it be possible for there to be something like inheritance where genetic characteristics propogate directly between organisms rather than through reproduction?

    13. Re:Paper tape by Agripa · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do you mean to say that viruses could be introduced into an organism to change DNA? If so would it be possible for there to be something like inheritance where genetic characteristics propogate directly between organisms rather than through reproduction?

      I am not entirely clear what you are asking but there are cases where children express phenotypes controlled by the mother's DNA. In some species of snail, the direction of the child's shell rotation is controlled by the mother's genes.

    14. Re:Paper tape by Roxton · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's called horizontal gene transfer, and it's more common than you think.

    15. Re:Paper tape by ZSpade · · Score: 1

      It's called horizontal gene transfer, and it's more common than you think.

      Well I suppose that makes sense, most of my gene transferring occurs horizontally.

      Giggity Giggity Giggity!

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    16. Re:Paper tape by Morphine007 · · Score: 1

      The "uber-nifty" thing about Turing machines is that any conceivable combination of turing machines controlling other turing machines running hundreds of millions of multiple tapes is ALL reducible down to a single turing machine running a single tape.

      All that to say, you could represent everything going on at a biological level in a turing machine... but you'd have to be retarded... and masochistic.... and probably a bit insane too...

      This is in partial response to your post, and another post by someone claiming that since the protein is itself a "turing-like machine with tape" "writing" to another "tape" that it actually wasn't like a turing machine at all... which is true.

      A biological system is nothing like a turing machine... but given that a turing machine (in RL) is nothing like a "real" turing machine (which has an infinitely long tape)... it hardly matters. When people compare something to a turing machine, they basically really mean that it's a stateful system which can be represented (abstractly!) by the abstract notation that is a turing-machine.... since a real turing machine doesn't actually exist, hence no direct comparison can be drawn between whatever they're talking about and a real turing machine

      So you're right, and wrong. You're right in that a computer metaphor is generally useless... but a turing machine is more of a math metaphor than a computer metaphor.... computers are just designed based on our attempt to build a real life representation of something that can't actually be built (ie. a finite state machine with infinite storage....) and you're wrong in that the abstract turing machine can, indeed, represent whatever is going on at those lower biological levels, since, they're stateful.

    17. Re:Paper tape by glwtta · · Score: 1

      and you're wrong in that the abstract turing machine can, indeed, represent whatever is going on at those lower biological levels, since, they're stateful.

      Depends on what you mean by "represent". A TM can certainly simulate (hypothetically) any biological process (unless you believe in God), but "represent" is just too vague in this conext. The OP was trying to liken different parts of a particular, abstract, TM construct (head + tape + fsm) with different components of the Central Dogma - and that's silly, was all I was saying.

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    18. Re:Paper tape by Morphine007 · · Score: 1

      well... it represents the process (even if you believe in god... unless eternal souls are somehow biological)... but you're right, it's not exactly analagous in the way most people would understand...

  6. schedule for Nobel Prize announcements by stuartrobinson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the schedule for future announcements: http://nobelprize.org/prize_announcements/

  7. Impressively fast by haluness · · Score: 1

    This is pretty impressive - the work is just 8 years old. And Prof. Mello is pretty young (at least, looks like it)! Neat

  8. I call shenanigans by letsgolightning · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Nobel citation, issued by Sweden's Karolinska Institute, said: "This year's Nobel Laureates have discovered a fundamental mechanism for controlling the flow of genetic information."

    I'm pretty sure condoms have been around for a while.

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    1. Re:I call shenanigans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. I'm never going to look at the phrase "series of tubes" the same, ever again.

    2. Re:I call shenanigans by chawly · · Score: 0

      And the pill !

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  9. Unexpected discovery by DebateG · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The discovery of RNAi is one of science's best stories.

    In the 1980's, Dr. Rich Jorgensen was a botanist interesting in making prettier petunias. He identified chalcone synthase, an enzyme needed to manufacture the purple pigment in the flowers. He reasoned that the more chalcone synthase there was, the purpler the flowers would become.

    Normally, the cell DNA for an enzyme is copied into RNA, which is made into protein. It seemed logical that increasing the RNA would lead to more protein.

    In fact, the statement
    DNA -> RNA -> Protein
    is often called the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology.

    Because single stranded RNA was so hard to synthesize, Jorgensen injected massive amounts of double stranded RNA for chalcone synthase into the petunias. Much to his surprise, the petunias didn't become more purple: they became white. Somehow, increasing the enzyme RNA number actually suppressed the protein.

    This Nobel Prize is well-deserved. By elucidating the mechanism of this paradoxical response, they challenged the Central Dogma. Moreover, by allowing scientists to "knock-down" genes, RNAi can be used to study the loss a single gene quickly and cheaply. It is very difficult to find a published biology paper today that doesn't use this technique.

    1. Re:Unexpected discovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      This isn't quite correct... The phenomenon identified by Jorgenson et al. was cosupression... What they actually did was transfer an extra copy of the gene (DNA) for chalcone synthase into the petunia. What wasn't known until some years later is that this actually is based on the same mechanism as what happens in RNA interference. Essentially, the overproduction of the chalcone synthase is recognized by the plant, and a second strand of RNA is made, this then leads to the chalcone synthase mRNA being chopped up. For quite some time cosupression was a mystery and it wasn't immediately clear that it was the same thing as RNAi.

    2. Re:Unexpected discovery by Tsiangkun · · Score: 1

      This discovery changed our whole game overnight.

      It's never been easier to do massive screens to identify interacting factors on a genome wide scale.

      Before we used RNAi, we had a simple file server with one hard drive holding everyone's data, maybe 6GB.
      After RNAi, we have a respectable number of terabytes of images, and live videos of cells.

      It's a good time to be a scientist.

    3. Re:Unexpected discovery by deltacephei · · Score: 1

      It's also very difficult to find one of those papers that doesn't use the word "elucidate."

    4. Re:Unexpected discovery by Hrshgn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have to agree completely. RNAi is an amazing tool. We are using it every day in our lab. Before you had to generate knock-out animals to suppress the action of a gene. A very expensive and slow method.
      Now you can just add either RNAi directly to cells (a bit expensive), transfect cells with DNA which expresses RNAi (cheap) or even integrate a gene expressing RNAi into the genome of cells (laborious but very handy).

      Hrshgn

    5. Re:Unexpected discovery by anubi · · Score: 1
      Stories like this - and posts like yours - are the main reason I read Slashdot.

      I envy you guys for being in position for doing the ultimate software hacks... on the genome of life itself.

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    6. Re:Unexpected discovery by Unc-70 · · Score: 1
      I think some people have misunderstood the central dogma of molecular biology. I'm happy to be corrected but I always understood that it referred to the flow of information rather than relative amounts. From wikipedia, Francis Crick's definition of the Central dogma:

      The central dogma of molecular biology deals with the detailed residue-by-residue transfer of sequential information. It states that such information cannot be transferred from protein to either protein or nucleic acid.
      Also, it is not hard to find a published paper that does not use the technique. I've just scanned the latest issue of the Journal of Biological Chemistry (oct 6, 2006), and of the first twenty experimental reports only one mentions RNAi in the Experimental Procedures section. I stopped at twenty because I got bored.

      I agree that RNAi is important work and probably deserving of a Nobel, but some information here is just misleading.
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    7. Re:Unexpected discovery by srblackbird · · Score: 2, Informative

      RNAi explained in a very clear way.
      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/02.ht ml
      Left-under is the video

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    8. Re:Unexpected discovery by rajorgensen · · Score: 1

      Hi, Thanks for making the correction. If I might, I'd like to note that actually the paper in question is Napoli et al., not Jorgensen et al. I've received plenty of credit but Carolyn gets forgotten, so please refer to the paper as Napoli et al. It's Carolyn Napoli, Christine Lemieux and me. 1990. You can find a free copy, with petunia photos, original cosuppression RNase protection experiment, etc., in The Plant Cell: http://www.plantcell.org/cgi/content/abstract/2/4/ 279 You can also find a link to this paper at my web site, along with links to a short Nova video that explains RNAi beautifully and simply: http://ag.arizona.edu/pls/faculty/jorgensen.html?& index=8#pubs I guess I should clarify that "it wasn't immediately clear it was the same thing as RNAi" because this was 1990 and RNAi was discovered in 1996/7 and published in 1998. RNA silencing was a small field for a long time before RNAi came along and got the whole scientific community excited about it. It was truly a monumental discovery - double-stranded RNA as the key to RNA silencing - and more than worthy of a Nobel. Hats off to Andy and Craig. Rich Jorgensen

  10. wtf? by bloko · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Wow i just read that headline wrong and had to read it again. I though it said "RIAA Interference Leads To Nobel Prize".

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    1. Re:wtf? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just shut the fuck up you narrow minded fag. Your bullshit is really stupid.

  11. NOVA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NOVA had a cool show on TV explaining this to the more dense (like me). Here's an animation that show explaining RNAi:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3210/02-ex pl-flash.html

  12. my impression of Mello and Fire by myc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    IAACES (I am a C. elegans scientist) and have had the opportunity to interact with both Craig Mello and Andy Fire (albeit briefly) during and after seminars. An interesting study in contrast.

    Craig looks more like a rock star than a Nobel Prize winning scientist in person; he's got the faded blue jeans/shirt hanging out look down pat. He's also ~6'5 and has great hair. Looks aside, Craig is one of the most intelligent people I have ever met. Some of the science he has done is simply mind-blowing (not necesarily the RNAi stuff). Back in the late 90's when Craig was just beginning to work on RNAi I remember going to a seminar of his and thinking "wow, this stuff will win the Nobel Prize one day."

    Andy on the other hand looks exactly like the egghead stereotype of an absent-minded professor. Balding, wears thick round glasses, sweater and khakis. While not as physically imposing as Craig, Andy has this incredibly modest demeanor that really demonstrates what it means to be a *top notch* academic. No pretenciousness at all. As a "worm person", I will be eternally grateful for Andy for providing a vector kit for the C. elegans research community essentially free of charge. Even without the RNAi and other research accomplishments the worm community has much to thank Andy for.

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    1. Re:my impression of Mello and Fire by kestasjk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks, I was pulling my hair out wondering what they looked like. :-P

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    2. Re:my impression of Mello and Fire by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      >> I was pulling my hair out...

      I'm betting you *used* to look more like Craig than Andy.

    3. Re:my impression of Mello and Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a Jobs/Wozniak duo to me. Coincidence or pattern? You decide!

  13. RNAi 101 by DebateG · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the comments here, it's pretty clear that very few people on Slashdot have any clue what RNAi is.

    Ever since the 1920's, scientists knew that DNA was the inheritable component that held the genes. They also knew that protein was the actual workhorse, the microscopic machines that accomplished cellular processes. Eventually, they elucidated that DNA copies itself into RNA, which is then converted into protein. Watson and Crick determined the structure of DNA, and proposed the mechanism for conversion of DNA to RNA.

    Since Watson and Crick's time, we have been using the Central Dogma of Molecular Biology:

    DNA -> RNA -> protein

    Increase the amount of DNA? That means more protein. Increase the amount of RNA? That means more protein.

    The big question in biology is now: given that there is usually just one gene for each protein, why do you have drastically different amounts of protein?

    What these guys show is that the Dogma really isn't entirely true. Sometimes you can add certain RNAs and make *less* protein. Moreover, they showed that this mechanism was conserved in organisms ranging from yeast to microscopic worms, to humans. In other words, small RNA molecules not only directed the synthesis of protein, they actually could be used to suppress it. An entirely new level of cellular regulation was elucidated.

    But to be quite honest, that wasn't the reason they won the Nobel Prize. It is for the experimental implications. Back before RNAi, if I were studying My Favorite Gene, the classical way to do it would be either to find a small molecule inhibitor (very difficult and expensive to find one) or to genetically modify cells to stop making it (also very time consuming and difficult). Now, with RNAi, I have a third, very fast method. Simply construct RNAi using a pretty standardized cookbook, order it online for around $100, and stick it in the cells. See what happens. Experiments that used to take months to years and cost thousands of dollars could now be done in a few days for a few hundred dollars.

    I'll put it in terms you guys can probably understand. Research without RNAi is like debugging without a debugger. Yeah, you can do it, but it's often time-consuming and confusing.

    1. Re:RNAi 101 by recordMyRides · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just to nitpick - it wasn't until 1944 that Oswald Theodore Avery, Colin MacLeod and Maclyn McCarty established that DNA was the "transforming principle". Read about it here: http://www.genome.gov/Pages/Education/Kit/main.cfm ?pageid=28.

    2. Re:RNAi 101 by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1
      Research without RNAi is like debugging without a debugger. Yeah, you can do it, but it's often time-consuming and confusing.

      I write in Perl. To debug, I just put a "print" statement after every line in the program. Failing that, I change characters randomly until it works.
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    3. Re:RNAi 101 by AxelBoldt · · Score: 1
      Sometimes you can add certain RNAs and make *less* protein.
      Yes, but why don't you quickly say how and why this works, rather than leave it all obscure?

      DNA is double stranded: one string of letters glued to a complementary string of letters. If you know one strand, you can deduce the other strand, and the two strands like to stick together. This makes copying DNA especially easy. When DNA is to be converted into a protein, one of the strands is copied into an RNA strand. Such a strand contains the same information but remains single-stranded. It moves out of the cell nucleus and is then translated into protein, according to a well-known code.

      Now it turns out that the cell has a machinery that hunts for double-stranded RNA molecules. Once it finds one, it gets primed on that particular string, and proceeds to destroy all copies of that RNA, even single-stranded ones. Why would the cell need a mechanism like that? Most likely to defend against viruses which often employ double-stranded RNA. (Secondarily, the cell also uses this mechanims to turn down certain genes: simply have another gene produce the complementary RNA sequence, let the two strands combine into a double-stranded RNA molecule, and have the machinery take care of the rest.)

      Now scientists exploit this machinery for their own purposes: they insert complementary RNA or have the cell produce complementary RNA, again the two strands combine, and the machinery takes care of the rest. This is a very cheap and quick way of suppressing a gene and thereby finding out what exactly the gene does.

  14. Its all about the citations by hey · · Score: 0, Troll

    > It is very difficult to find a published biology paper today that doesn't use this technique.

    So its got a good pagerank.

    1. Re:Its all about the citations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why has this been modded as troll? I think it is a very apt analogy.

  15. i'm looking right now by arrrrrpirates · · Score: 0

    if only they would find the miRNA that silences the america v. world debates.

  16. Paper tape? No, not quite by deltacephei · · Score: 1

    Cells manufacture proteins via DNA->RNA->protein. This is more analogous to a nested function application. RNAi is more analogous to removing the outer function that then prevents expression of the intended protein. The cell erases the chalk board by absorbing the unused mRNA. Indeed this points to one of the RNAi central uses - that of infering which gene is doing what - turn one or more off and see what happens to the mouse.

    It's way too much of a leap to "humans can be abstracted as computer-replicable algorithms." There is still far more to learn, despite advances in genetic engineering, which by the way you are probably consuming every time you ingest a product containing corn, soy or wheat. And more practically at hand, the promise of genetic medicine brings with it the freight train of eugenics to contend with.

  17. Slip by ydnar · · Score: 0

    Somehow I read the headline as "GNAA Interference Leads to Nobel Peace Prize."

  18. WHERE IS THE PEER REVIEWED ARTICLE? by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    Just kidding.

    Personally this is one of the amazing stories for me. It is an obvious mechanism of regulation for chemist or physicist, but not so obvious for a biologist. The simplicity of theoreetical ideas and easy usage has destined this work for the fast Nobel track from the very beginning.

    Well done.

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  19. Exam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I'm checking Slashdot during a break in my studying today and suddenly I see the material I'm covering is posted on the front page!

    Makes me wonder whether it's too early to be tested on the material when the Nobel Prize was awarded AFTER the lecture I recieved on it. That's the field of biology for you though, dramatic changes are possible every year.

    The central dogma has really been taking a licking with prions first, and now this.

    The article doesn't really go into anything very scientific unfortunately. Here is an animation on RNAi that will hopefully explain the process visually for anyone that may be interested. http://www.nature.com//focus/rnai/animations/anima tion/animation.htm

  20. Nice Guy by marshmallow+soup · · Score: 1

    One of them (Dr. Mello) works a floor below me at UMass Med, and is a genuinely *nice* guy. It's good to know that getting the Nobel doesn't seem to require being ruthless in your research.

  21. Oops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone else read that as RIAA Iterference Leads To Nobel Prize?

  22. Of course, this is only one theory by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to top White House Scienticians, we also have to give equal credence to the ISGB3 hypothesis, in which personal characteristics are regulated by an Invisible Sky Giant shouting "BOOGLY BOOGLY BOOGLY".

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  23. remedial RNAi by Lurker2288 · · Score: 1

    The central dogma doesn't refer to quantities ('more DNA = more protein')--it's about the flow of information from the relatively stable medium of DNA, through the transient messenger RNA, into the proteins that do the bulk of the work in the cell. The reason Fire and Mello's work flew in the face of the central dogma is because they showed that some small, non-protein producing RNAs could feed back and downregulate the production of protein from the mRNAs. And what's more, work that's going on right now in micro-RNA (miRNA) shows that most multicellular organisms are already using some of the mechanisms involved in RNAi to regulate. It makes the regulation of gene expression infinitely more subtle and adaptable.

  24. Nature article by nucal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Right here . Although I must beg to differ, with you - the mechanism wasn't obvious to anyone until this study. For what it's worth, it was in the "Letters" section of nature - it wasn't even a full article:

    Potent and specific genetic interference by double-stranded RNA in Caenorhabditis elegans

    ANDREW FIRE, SIQUN XU, MARY K. MONTGOMERY, STEVEN A. KOSTAS, SAMUEL E. DRIVER & CRAIG C. MELLO

    Experimental introduction of RNA into cells can be used in certain biological systems to interfere with the function of an endogenous gene,. Such effects have been proposed to result from a simple antisense mechanism that depends on hybridization between the injected RNA and endogenous messenger RNA transcripts. RNA interference has been used in the nematode Caenorhabditis elegans to manipulate gene expression,. Here we investigate the requirements for structure and delivery of the interfering RNA. To our surprise, we found that double-stranded RNA was substantially more effective at producing interference than was either strand individually. After injection into adult animals, purified single strands had at most a modest effect, whereas double-stranded mixtures caused potent and specific interference. The effects of this interference were evident in both the injected animals and their progeny. Only a few molecules of injected double-stranded RNA were required per affected cell, arguing against stochiometric interference with endogenous mRNA and suggesting that there could be a catalytic or amplification component in the interference process.

  25. More attempts at explanation by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    First of all, obligatory Wikipedia reference. As it quite often happens in Wikipedia it provides the most popular yet dry explanation of science.

    I would add to this an analogy.

    So, the storyline is DNA->mRNA->protein.

    The second leg of this classic protein production path is done on ribosomes - 100A brontosaurs of the cell. One of the elements of protein synthesis on these astounding machines is recognition of a triplet of nucleotides (codon) on the matrix RNA (mRNA) by tRNAs (transfer RNAs) that uses anticodon triplet of nucleotides on tRNA to attach it to the corresponding complementary part of the mRNA (that is codon).

    This is like lock and key. Lock being a particular place on mRNA you need to unlock in order to advance an mRNA on the ribosome. So essentially the whole process of synthesis of the protein is a long enfilade of rooms with about 4^3 different locks in a computer game of hunting treasures. New lock - new codon. Open the lock with tRNA key, find a treasure - next aminoacid, attach it to the list of posessions (nascent protein chain), rinse, repeat.

    The important part of this unlocking is that you are able to remove the key from the lock before proceeding to the next room. Imagine that you have a key chain of 4^3 keys. The easiness of removal is achieved by the fact that there are only 3 nucleotide pairs in this key-lock combination and the fact that the 3D structure of the interacting parts of tRNA and mRNA are a little bit twisted (there are other details like wobbling, that I am omitting now). Bottom line: the complementary 3 nucleotide-lock parts are easy to attach to each other and easy to part from each other.

    Now here comes RNAi, which is a monstrous superkey in terms that instead of having an anticodon of 3 nucleotides it is, say, 20 nucleotides matching exactly (or near to exact) the complementary sequence on mRNA. Being 20 nucleotides long it attaches to the mRNA with much stronger force, very hard to remove, so the superkey (in opposite to what one might expect from this analogy) instead of unlocking 20/3=6 doors in this enfilade right away is instead jamming one of the locks.

    So you walk with your key-chained set of tRNAs (in reality they are not physically connected, of course) along the enfilade of mRNA's codons, then BOOM! one of the locks jammed by RNAi. Last room, that is completed protein, not reached, no points earned, game over, restart with a different molecule of mRNA. In other words, the expression of particular protein (the amount of proteins of this kind in the cell) is inhibited.

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  26. Weird, I recall knowing this... by Da3vid · · Score: 1

    I graduated only about a year ago with a BS (yeah, haha) in Biochemistry. You know, just for fun. I remember this being in my textbooks. Did they just offer some additional proof to a theory or something? We've known about double stranded RNA, RNA enzymes (ribozymes) and RNA proteins... these sorts of molecules have been to known in RNA interference for awhile now. Its predicted that the world was first RNA based, not DNA. A sequence of RNA molecules can be programmed to cleave another RNA sequence (or even its own) at a specific site, and can be programmed to degrade RNA sequences of certain patterns (or can be of similar patterns)

    Cells have already been known to use this method rarely, and we've been provoking cells to do it for our own purposes for years.

    1. Re:Weird, I recall knowing this... by liswinz · · Score: 1
      If this was in your textbooks, it was because of their 1998 paper and the subsequent work that has shown that the mechanisms are involved are conserved all the way to mammals. I do know what you mean about the theory that everything started with RNA, which can both act as genetic material and have important enzymatic and structural properties. However, RNAi is very different from the big RNA molecules that act as enzymes (ribosymes) and I'm not really sure what you mean by RNA proteins.

      RNAi is a natural mechanism that is used in all cells to regulate gene expression. It turns out that in addition to the mRNAs (messengerRNA) that are translated into protein, the rRNAs (ribosomal RNA) that provide the scaffold for the translation, the tRNAs (transferRNA--the big cross in the article picture) that match the RNA with the amino acid (protein building block) it codes for, and those ribosymes, all of which we've known about for some time, we also have very small RNAs called microRNAs (miRNA). These are transcribed but not turned into protein. Once transcribed, these pieces join up with the proteins that catalyze RNAi in the RISC complex. Normal mRNAs that have sequences that match up with the microRNAs become bound in the complex and may either be prevented from being turned into protein or degraded by the complex. It turns out that most natural microRNAs, due to their small size, can match up with sequences in a large number of mRNAs (on the order of 100-200), and do actually appear to regulate how much protein is made by a large number of different RNAs. It's currently thought that this may be a mechanism by which cells can quickly stop the generation of protein for an entire pathway or process at once by making just one regulatory microRNA.

      Although this mechanism has become important for normal regulation in the cell, it appears to have been originally developed to combat foreign RNA that may have been inserted into the cell by viruses. Thus, in addition to the silencing RISC complex, there is also an enzyme called Dicer that chops up any double-stranded RNA it finds lying around into the bite-sized pieces that fit in the RISC complex. mRNAs that match those pieces are then silenced by the mechanism mentioned above, and poof! You have essentially gotten rid of the protein for whatever gene you inserted the double-stranded RNA of.

      So this discovery was novel on two levels, both incredibly important. First, uncovered another piece in the puzzle of how our cells are regulated with such incredible speed and specificity. Second, the sudden ability to quickly and specifically get rid of any protein of interest revolutionized molecular and cellular biology. Before, to know what a gene was doing in a particular cell, it took months to years of work to generate an animal or cell line that lacked that gene. Thus, most of our knowledge of the required functions of genes came from either genetic screens in organisms such as yeast, worms, and flies or targeted knock-outs of genes you already thought were pretty important. These are still very important techniques, but now that we have RNAi, we can fairly easily determine the critical functions of almost any gene we want, even in mammalian systems. The technique has been an incredible tool for molecular biologists, and has aided in studying not only cancer (as one poster mentioned), but probably any other molecular/cellular process you can think of as well. I always figured he would win the Nobel prize for it eventually, just not this soon (8 years!). However, given both how much it has changed the field and how many times and ways it has been validated, I can see why they decided to go ahead and give it to them now.

  27. I read interference and think of interferon... by gozar · · Score: 1

    Dr. Hibbert: Good lord, you're wasting thousands of dollars worth of Interferon!
    Homer: And you're "interferon" with our good time! Hehehehe!

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  28. Hello World? by sadler121 · · Score: 1

    So can I now code DNA to do this...?

    #include main() { printf("Hello, World."); }

    1. Re:Hello World? by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can, but it takes 9 months to compile and requires a mixed gender team of programmers. May be more difficult for most of the /. crowd of programmers.

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  29. God did it! by IdleTime · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You are all wrong!

    God did it and the bible clearly says so.

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    1. Re:God did it! by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

      You are all wrong! God did it and the bible clearly says so.

      "Funny" mod will not improve your karma, buddy!

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  30. First observed in plants! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This Nobel prize should have been shared with a plant biologist, Richard Jorgenson and others http://cals.arizona.edu/pls/faculty/jorgensen.html , who initially discovered the phenomena. He discovered it while inserting extra copies of an already existing gene into Petunia. Moreover, co-suppression, the silencing of gene expression, has been well documented in plants. They should give credit where credit is due and they Nobel committee missed a nice opportunity.

  31. MIT Nobel Prizes++ by JelloJoe · · Score: 1

    Rack another Nobel Prize up for MIT affiliated people And don't forget the physics one as well that guy won today. (MIT++)++;

    1. Re:MIT Nobel Prizes++ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who cares? You didn't win the prize, so quit trying to ride on the coattails of the actual talent.

  32. Morgellons Disease by wytcld · · Score: 1

    CNN reported on Sunday morning that investigators of Morgellons Disease (previously discussed) have found plant genetic material in association with it. Could this be horizontal transfer from genmod plants (perhaps through other plant intermediaries)? All of the victims have worked with plants, either as hobby or profession.

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    1. Re:Morgellons Disease by CTachyon · · Score: 1

      I'm not the OP, but lateral gene transfer between plants and animals seems extremely unlikely. Plant DNA and Animal DNA, although they share some similarities as they are both eukaryotic (e.g. large amounts of non-coding "junk", much of it regulatory), they're very different in other important respects. More importantly, there's no obvious mechanism by which lateral gene transfer could occur, since plant-infecting viruses don't affect humans and vice versa. Viruses have a hard enough time jumping from apes to humans, much less jumping from Kingdom to Kingdom.

      Supposing that Morgellon's is a true infectious disease and not e.g. a type of delusional parasitosis or other psychosomatic disease, it sounds less like human-plant gene transfer and more like a parasitic infection, somewhat reminiscent of a lichen (a mutually beneficial symbiosis between fungi and algae). Based on the most common reported symptom (fibrous growths), it sounds like the hyphae of a parasitic fungus, but that's at odds with the presence of plant DNA. The plant DNA might just be incidental contamination from gardening, or I suppose an undiscovered infectious lichen isn't entirely out of the question (however unprecedented it may be), although one would expect fungal DNA to be present in either case. Either way, it sounds like something that a single application of hydrogen peroxide or rubbing alcohol could easily kill, so long as the wound is then covered and allowed to heal naturally. (Peroxide and alcohol kill your own skin cells, in addition to anything else. This prevents healing, so they shouldn't be used more than once.)

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  33. Real life implications by zitintheass · · Score: 1

    Please could you cite any real implications, but I mean real (that even average /. folk can grasp) because saying Experiments could now be done in a few days for a few hundred dollars that really sound like scientific blur agenda. What are you regulating with that "iRNA" and what is that for?

    1. Re:Real life implications by thec · · Score: 1

      The one that directly impacts me can be seen here: http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2003/june11/ hepb.html The article has, atleast to me, a layman's description of the process. Although this article only talks about using this method to regulate the Hepatitis B virus, other publications from various researchers have shown progress with AIDS and Hepatitis C.

  34. AHA!! by camperdave · · Score: 1

    So, it is possible to develop web spinning cells after being bitten by a radioactive spider.

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  35. probabilist evolution.... by chro57 · · Score: 0

    Naaaa....
    it's just that God doesn't plan very well it's code :-)