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Hans Reiser Arrested On Suspicion of Murder

Many readers wrote about the arrest today of Hans Reiser, author of ReiserFS, by Oakland, CA police on suspicion of murdering his estranged wife. From the San Francisco Chronicle: "Hans Reiser, 42, was taken into custody at 11 a.m., hours after Oakland police and FBI technicians searched his home in the Oakland hills. His estranged wife, Nina Reiser, 31, has been missing since Sept. 3, when she dropped off the couple's son and daughter at his home on the 6900 block of Exeter Drive... Police made the arrest based on circumstantial evidence and have not found Nina Reiser's body, [Hans Reiser's attorney] Du Bois said. 'I have no idea what the circumstantial evidence is,' he said. 'When I hear what the evidence is against him, I'll make a decision as to whether he'll talk to them.'" kimvette writes, "While the disappearance (and possible murder) of his wife is tragic, Linux users will wonder where this will leave Reiser 4. If Reiser is found guilty, will Novell or IBM pick up the pieces and finish up Reiser 4 for inclusion in the kernel or is this the end of the Reiser filesystem project? Will there be any future for the Reiser filesystem, and if Hans is found guilty and the project is continued, will the project be renamed to avoid notoriety?"

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  1. That really sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope they let him code in prison.

    1. Re:That really sucks by Oliver+Defacszio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most people who murder someone will probably spend the rest of their life fucked up in the head. They have created their own punishment, living every day with the guilt.

      Jesus H. Christ, can we PUH-LEASE leave this damned stupid argument behind once and for freaking all. SOME murderers, I am sure, feel guilty, but to state that MOST killers are wracked by guilt goes way, way, way beyond what evidence has repeatedly shown. Prisons are full of unrepentent murderers, as are the streets.

      In other words, a healthy percentage of killers don't care for one second what they've done. There are various reasons for this, but look around before assuming that "most" murderers are just good people who have done something bad. The world is full of assholes who are assholes just for the sake of being assholes, and there are countless examples of this extending into the realm of murder.

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    2. Re:That really sucks by uufnord · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wonder if you'd change your tune if it was your wife or mother or daughter that was killed.

      He probably would, of course. When a tragic event like that happens to a family, most of them would lose objectivity and be filled with regret, remorse, and hatred. That's why we need sane, objective people who have the capacity to see things clearly making these kinds of decisions, instead of bitter, reactionary victims.

    3. Re:That really sucks by 'nother+poster · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, point me at a peer reviewed scientific study that shows that most killers aren't wracked with guilt. Come on. You said you had evidence.

    4. Re:That really sucks by pluther · · Score: 5, Funny
      Got it wrong once with Jesus...

      That case was an aberration.

      Almost every executed criminal since then as stayed dead.

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    5. Re:That really sucks by julesh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, just ignoring the problem will drive some of those people to revenge killings - this is what happens in societies that break down, like Iraq. The government is seen as powerless or uncaring, so people take matters into their own hands...

      And of course this is a real problem in the EU where the death sentence is illegal because of a variety of treaties. Revenge killings are commonplace and ... oh, hold on, no they're not. Must be something wrong with your logic.

    6. Re:That really sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, don't forget, Hans shot first!

  2. Unbelievable by nubnub · · Score: 5, Informative

    He's arrested for killing his wife and this post asks what's the deal with Reiser 4? Classy kdawson, very classy.

    1. Re:Unbelievable by Random+Destruction · · Score: 5, Insightful
      But honestly, how many people would think that even if it wasn't posted on the front page?


      Probably a lot of people. But, what's wrong with that? It's natural for people to think of how an event will affect them.
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    2. Re:Unbelievable by SoulDrift · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the contrary, far from being crass, the fate of ReiserFS is the only part of this sorry subject that merits discussion on Slashot. Anything else, discussed in a forum of people who don't personally know those involved, is nothing more than lurid gossip

    3. Re:Unbelievable by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It depends whose life, and to whom, and what their criteria for determining importance are. Importance isn't a property of the world; it is a relationship between a mind and a thing. A child of mine would be more important than the entire US fleet - to me. Outside of peoples' minds, there is no such thing as "importance."

    4. Re:Unbelievable by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. Reiser hasn't yet faced trial, let alone been found guilty.

    5. Re:Unbelievable by visgoth · · Score: 5, Insightful
      we can never replace a life

      Sure we can, its called having children. My life is only important to myself, my family, and perhaps a small circle of friends. Outside that, the greater mass of humanity doesn't give a flying fuck about me, you, or anyone else.

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  3. This brings up an interesting line of questioning by Thnikkaman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This brings up an interesting line of questioning. Are OSS projects that rely so heavily on a single person able to be trusted for widespread use? OSS and Linux zealots scream the advantages of using that kind of software, but is it a smart business decision to deploy something that could potentially lose all support if its project manager is in a fatal car accident? I'm the first to admit my own ignorance on a lot of the heirarchy of OSS projects. Are concerns like this valid or is the community able to pick up where someone left off with minimal interruption to clients?

  4. i hope she is alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People need to remember that there are human lives involved here. There are also children in the mix. This is NOT a tragedy for the Reiser filesystem.

    1. Re:i hope she is alright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While it is a tragedy, who really cares? I mean, honestly. Who really cares?

      I know that sounds cold, but unless you personally know the Reisiers, I don't think anyone really does. There are hundreds of people murdered each day. There are hundreds killed in tragic car accidents each day. Do you feel pity for each and every one of them? No.

      The only reason why this is on Slashdot is because of the ReiserFS. And because of that, it would be silly to not speculate on the ReiserFS future. Unless you just want 250 posts of people saying "Oh, that's terrible!"

      Posted as anon for obvious reasons..

  5. Reiser4 already renamed by straponego · · Score: 5, Funny
    It will now be known as ojfs.

    Okay, so I'm not a good person.

    1. Re:Reiser4 already renamed by st1d · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's the difference between O.J. and Hans Reiser?

      Hans kept a journal.

      (Sorry everybody...)

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    2. Re:Reiser4 already renamed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the transaction doesn't commit, you must acquit!

  6. You ain't seen tacky yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    All Reiser has to do is roll back the journal on his wife's deletion. Problem solved by superior software!

    There. How's that for tasteless?

    1. Re:You ain't seen tacky yet... by msuzio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, I appreciate the completely tasteless humor much more than the completely stupid serious comments on this. The humor recognizes and appreciates the absurb quality of all of this, and doesn't even try to propose a serious take on the matter.

      Is it really funny? No. But horrible situations are sometimes relieved by nervous titters of black humor.

    2. Re:You ain't seen tacky yet... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, its comments like this (even in the semi-anonymous and lame-black-humor-filled world of Slashdot) that keeps our image down. No wonder most people don't care about our opinions and treat us with lack of respect.

      What a load of sanctimonius bullshit.

      Tell that to Leno next time he cracks a 9/11 joke.
      Or Letterman next time he cracks an Iraqi occupation joke.
      Or the SNL writers next time they do an Abu Graib skit.

      People here are on slashdot are no different from people everywhere else.

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    3. Re:You ain't seen tacky yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Is it really funny? No. But horrible situations are sometimes relieved by nervous titters of black humor.
      Now that's just racist.
  7. Special website by Kangburra · · Score: 5, Informative

    A website aimed at helping to find her, Help Find Nina Reiser

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  8. This isn't meant to be funny or insensitive by Ssbe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This isn't meant to be funny or insensitive ... but if he did do it and is found guilty it seems like he'll have a bunch of time on his hand. You know, with the long jail sentence and all. Is their a reason why he can't continue working on this project from jail? Also, working on a OSS with your free time in jail seems like it might get you some good behavior points.

    1. Re:This isn't meant to be funny or insensitive by victim · · Score: 5, Funny

      I trusted Mr. Reiser with my mp3 archive once before. I still haven't found all the original CDs to replace the corrupted files. Never again.

    2. Re:This isn't meant to be funny or insensitive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, it's not like the guy killed anyone..

      Oh, wait...

  9. Re:This brings up an interesting line of questioni by garethw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A very important question.

    A coworker of mine uses an indicator he calls the "bus factor" to determine the likelihood of discontinued support for a particular tool or library.

    The "bus factor" is simply defined as "the number of people who have to be hit by a bus before the fundamental understanding of the underlying codebase is lost."

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  10. it's like ... the opposite of trust by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know, Microsoft have paid the police to do this, to discredit a Linux FS?

    Totally, dude. Like, this one time, Micro$uxx paid this chick to be this like hardcore open-source dude's girlfriend, and like, she made him chili with peanuts in it, which he like would like totally have died if he ate it? Way of the world, man *massssssivvvee toooooke* way of the fuckin' world.

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  11. Re:So if he's guilty by failure-man · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know. If you ask me using a filesystem associated with a murder would be WAY METAL . . . . .

  12. Jason Haas and linux powerpc-slashdot temperment by acomj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When Jason Haas was in a car acciedent linux PowerPC suffered. But eventually others pick up and run with it. He was alright

    http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/03/24/ 089246&mode=thread

    Interesting to note the different temperment of slashdot articles 6 years ago. No jokes..

  13. Re:Just remember! by chris_eineke · · Score: 5, Insightful
    innocent until proven guilty
    That line gives me the creeps, because of its connotation: it's only a matter of time until you are proven guilty. Doesn't innocent unless proven guilty sound much more... humane and logical?
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  14. Re:So if he's guilty by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Funny
    Would that mean if I used ReiserFS that I support murder?


    Better than supporting Microsoft.

    [kidding! kidding!]
  15. Re:Sad. by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, generally when somebody gets accused under an unjust law or accused of something many of us don't consider a crime, lots of folks will rally to the cause and suggest donating for their defense.

    When somebody gets accused of something we can all agree is unequivocally bad, like murdering the mother of his children, my reaction is "let justice take its course." This seems fair to me, especially when we have no idea what the evidence is against him. Lots of people get accused of lots of crimes all the time and I don't generally donate money to their legal defense unless I think the law under which they are being prosecuted is terribly unjust.

  16. I call Bullshit.. by buswolley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So long as he has community support, he won't commit a murder.. I call Bullshit. It is equally simplistic to think that all cases can be rehabilitated as it is to think that there are no cases that can be rehabilitated.

    People are complex. There brains are complex. Sometimes there is no amount of love and support that can turn a guy around.

    Secondly..Prison is the worst rehabilitation... Constant contact with other violent people usually is a negative influence.

    Lastly, your logic is horrible. I'll use your line of argument in another situation:

    I know a smoker who is 95 years old, therefore smoking is safe.

    ??? Well--Are you ready to say, "point conceded?"

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  17. Re:So if he's guilty by Nataku564 · · Score: 5, Funny
    What if he kicked a puppy?
    I'd go out and kick a puppy too.
  18. Re:Sad. by fithmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know if it's all that sad... I'd never really heard anything of the guy before this, other than his name attached to his FS, and the wikipedia article was rather sparse, so I google'd around to get an idea of who he is.

    You call for sympathy for the man, but as far as I can tell from this interview, and a few random forum threads around the internet, he seems like a really smart and clever, well-educated guy, a really good programmer, but kind of an arrogant douche. I mean, he talks about how he hates homework and wishes you could just study and then discuss to prove your knowledge, but then he stresses the importance of code review and benchmarking (which seem, to me, the "homework" of programming tasks) and belittles his own employees for not doing it well enough.

    I'm not trying to flame the guy out or anything. Like I said, I knew nothing about him before my last 15 minutes of searching, but from what I saw in that little sliver (and I know that doesn't provice me a fully developed mental image of the man) it seems like he might deserve some of the jokes.

    I'd say if you have sympathy or money to donate - give it to the kids.

    And watch, I bet I get bad karma for just trying to point out that it seems (to the untrained eye) that he might have bad karma.

  19. Re:especially since that's the only reason it's he by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Funny

    The name is not tainted. Whatever one's opinion of Hans Reiser (I personally have none), ReiserFS is pretty much universally accepted as a very fine filesystem, and there's no reason why that should change.

    However, having said that, it might in fact be a plus to describe it as a killer filesystem... ;-)

    *ducks*

  20. Re:I don't know much about him by e40 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I live fairly close to where she disappeared. You probably don't know this, but there was an incredible effort to find her. Notices were posted everywhere, with her picture and information about her disappearance. From what I gather, it would be completely out of character for her to have left her children. As a parent, it is easy to tell how connected someone is to their kids. I'm sure her friends know this. For me, there is nothing in the universe that would make me leave my kid. Nothing. I believe she's dead.

  21. They went further than that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... many of the Amish actually attended his funeral and mourned his death.
    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/ 10/07/national/a191914D02.DTL

    I can't preach to anyone here about hate and revenge myself, due to my past reactions to things, but what those Amish people did really impressed me. Any members of the phoney religions of peace on here(you christians, muslims, jews, etc...) might want to take some notes from the Amish. I realize they are a christian sect, but their EXAMPLE spoke to me louder than the millions of words I've heard come from christians(or the other two "religions of peace"). If all religions did their preaching that way, they'd make the world a better place, instead of the shithole they seem bent on turning it into in the name of their "faith".

  22. Re:Do some research on psychology of psychopaths. by RsG · · Score: 5, Insightful
    All psychopaths, lack the capability to feel guilt, thats why they commit murders in the first place.
    Psychopathy isn't exactly common you know. Contrary to popular opinion, most criminals aren't psychopathic. Moreover, those criminals suffering from it aren't automatically violent; a criminal psychopath can just as easily be an embezeller. In fact, one could argue that the best "white collar" criminal would be a clinical psychopath in a position of corporate power - they'd make a great CEO in the short term.

    Now, that isn't to say there aren't violent psychopathic criminals. Most serial killers, and violent sex offenders who target adult women, would qualify. And it is true that they are extremely hard to rehabilitate (some would say impossible). But they aren't the only ones behind bars. In fact, I'm not even convinced they represent a signifigant fraction of violent criminals - the numbers I've seen vary wildly, which suggest to me that nobody knows how many of them exist with any certainty.

    To give them as an example of the futility of rehabilitation is utterly ridiculous. It's like taking a rabid dog as a typical example of what most strays are like.

    the average person would never be able to kill their wife because they'd feel guilt, remorse, empathy, psychopaths don't feel this.
    The "average" person is quite capable of murder, given the right incentive, or the right lapse in judgement. Most "crimes of passion" would qualify. Do you really think somebody who, to give an example, kills their wife after catching her in bed with another person is automatically psycho? Granted a psychopath put in that position is more likely to commit violence than an average person, but that doesn't make the average person incapable of murder, it merely makes him statistically less likely to commit it.

    To presume all who commit crimes are suffering from mental illness, or are in some way less human, is a common error. We wish to distance ourselves from those we consider evil, by claiming that we could never do such a thing. But make no mistake; this is denial, plain and simple.

    That's not to say that there aren't criminal psychopaths in the world; rather it is to admit that average, mentally healthy people, under the right conditions, can do things we as a society consider monsterous. For every psycho killing people at random, there are a dozen "average" people killing for revenge, for profit, for ideology, or for any number of other reasons.
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  23. Re:Execution is *not* murder by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Execution is not murder, self defense is not murder, military combat is not murder, ..."

    Yes, those things are murder also. You've merely been conditioned to believe they are not


    Wrong. Words have common meanings, definitions. We could not communicate otherwise. "Murder" is a word used to describe a specific type of killing, shown below. You seem to be confusing a subjective moral opinion with the accepted definition of a word. Merely believing that all forms of killing are immoral does not allow you to change the definition of a word.

    murder
    n.
    1. The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/murder
    "Murder is an illegal killing, the preceding are legal."

    No, they are not. Circumstance is used to determine if punishment may be waived. Killing is always illegal. Proceeding with prosecution is at the whim of the State. Your State makes available the definitions of all crimes, read up on them.


    Actually I've had an administration of justice class that covered where the use of deadly force was legal. I believe state statutes authorize the use of deadly force when executing a death warrant, in self defense, during the suppression of a riot, ... Perhaps you are confused by tangential issues, for example where a victim is charged with the possession of a firearm in a jurisdiction where they are prohibited.