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Howard Stern Coming To the Net

theodp writes, "To promote an Internet radio service Sirius is launching this week, Howard Stern's 4+ hour program will be made available live online for free on October 25 and 26. The new Sirius service will offer 75+ channels of CD-quality programming for $12.95/month with no need to buy a Sirius satellite receiver."

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  1. Yawn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let me give that reaction a little more thought...

    Nope. Yawn sums it up.

  2. "CD quality programming" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    But not CD quality audio. I think the net stream is 32kbps.

    1. Re:"CD quality programming" by bWareiWare.co.uk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given this is /. I think a plug for Virgin Radio's brilliant 160kpbs Ogg Vorbis stream is allowed:

      http://www.smgradio.com/core/audio/ogg/live.pls?se rvice=vrbb

      (Though they are a UK Ad supported pop music channel so the quality of the content is not guaranteed)

    2. Re:"CD quality programming" by saberyo · · Score: 2, Informative

      The new "Premium" stream is 129K bits/sec.

    3. Re:"CD quality programming" by achacha · · Score: 2, Informative

      I listen to Sirius radio on the web daily (because I work in a valley between 2 mountains and no reception is possible). Honestly, the quality is great, better than FM radio. I also have a Sirius unit that unfortunately broadcasts via FM (since my car doesn't have a direct input and I am too lazy to rewire it) and the internet stream sounds better than FM I get in my car.

      As far as Howard, his show is quite amusing for the guests he has and the non-standard questions he asks them. Even though on satellite he is not censored, the language is not overused. Bubba is also quite interesting in a dirty sexist sort of way.

      Howard is a good reason to get Sirius, but I presonally like Hard Attack channel where I can listen to new death metal and interview for which I would have no access over coventional radio.

      I don't care about CD quaity, I grew up in the tape-swap 80s and scrambled premium channel over airwaves decade, so I think my brain is trained to smooth out and unscramble stuff I hear and see :)

      I also listened to XM with the dish I had and their channels are not very diverse, XM feels like their channels are part of some genre-based market study (and very generic feeling); but that's just me. All Sirius needs is a 24/7 Pink Floyd channel and I will be happy.

      I think over time the bitrates will improve and I am hoping 3rd party software will allow me to record shows so I could listen to them when I have time.

    4. Re:"CD quality programming" by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Informative

      129? WTF is that. Why not just use 128? Does extra 1000 bits really make that much of a difference. And besides, we all know 128 isn't really CD quality. They used to pretend it was back in 1998 when Napster was cool, but we know that you get a lot better sound out of 192 Kbps encoding, and probably a lot closer to actual CD quality.

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    5. Re:"CD quality programming" by a_nonamiss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was on the bandwagon and all reared up ready to get Sirius at the beginning of the year for the sole purpose of listening to Stern. Sadly, Sirius (and probably Howard in particular) was unwilling at the time to embrace Internet broadcasts. Rumor has it, Stern was paranoid that people would steal his show and rebroadcast it so that he wouldn't get as much money. My commute into work is 7 minutes long, and I wasn't willing to pay for a subscription to listen to 7 minutes a day. Sure, I could've probably purchased additional receivers and listened in my office, or a boom box, but honestly, that's hundreds of dollars in outlay, not to mention a PITA to set up, just to listen to something that makes me chuckle every few minutes. Had Internet streaming been available, I would have not only subscribed to Sirius, but probably paid a few bucks extra to get Internet streaming so I could listen at home and at work without having to hook up a bunch of extra hardware.

      Now it's 10 months later, and frankly, I'm over Stern. I didn't think I could live without listening to his show, but due to his and his company's paranoia, I was forced to. Now, I have no desire to subscribe to Sirius. I started listening to the show that replaced his, and while not as funny as Stern, it's funny enough. I can listen over the Internet, in my car, and from my regular stereo at home.

      Lesson that they should have learned: strike while the iron's hot. I would have subscribed back then, and I'd still be a subscriber. I'm sure I'm not alone. There's absolutely no justifiable reason to have not put streaming in place 10 months ago. Hell, they were already doing it with their music channels. It's not like they didn't have the technology already. Plus, they can DRM the hell out of those streams, making it practically impossible to save the digital stream. Sure, someone could've ran their line out into their line in and recorded the show and put it up on BitTorrent, but they could do that with any of the regular Sirius equipment just as easily. I suppose that's what you get when your business people don't listen to your technology people.

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    6. Re:"CD quality programming" by Babbster · · Score: 2, Informative
      Rumor has it, Stern was paranoid that people would steal his show and rebroadcast it so that he wouldn't get as much money.

      Wow. Talk about bullshit. No, Stern wasn't "paranoid" about internet broadcasts (as long as they're paid for - this is a subscription-based business). He was talking about how they needed an Internet stream from virtually the day he arrived on the air.

      Stern and Sirius are no more "paranoid" that people will steal their shit than anyone else who has a service they're trying to tell - in other words, they don't want you to steal their shit.
  3. $13 a month... by Reverend99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... to listen to Howard Stern's talk about midget lesbians. That's so awesome because like there isn't any other access to midget lesbians and other assorted pervsions anywhere else on the Internet.

    1. Re:$13 a month... by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually if you bothered to RTFA, it's $13 a month to access all of Sirius' music channels as well as select talk channels like Howard Stern. You get a lot more than just Howard, over 75 channels of stuff.

      Frankly I'm surprised that Sirius isn't offering this subscription for less. $13/month is about what a regular radio subscription costs, and that includes access to the internet feeds. Since you can get Sirius radios for as low as $60 it'd make more sense to buy a radio and monthly subscription to get both radio & internet access instead of $13/month for just internet access.

    2. Re:$13 a month... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Since you can get Sirius radios for as low as $60 it'd make more sense to buy a radio and monthly subscription to get both radio & internet access instead of $13/month for just internet access.

      Not everybody in the world can receive the signal. (Though I do think the price is too high.)

  4. CD quality? by LordSnooty · · Score: 4, Funny

    What, are they streaming WAV files?

    1. Re:CD quality? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting

      CDDA is a very inefficient encoding. You could easily exceed CD quality with one quarter the bitrate using lossy compression if you started with a better-than-CD source. Is that what Howard Stern is planning to do? Almost certainly not. Does it even matter for his show? Absolutely not.

  5. 13 bucks a month? by saboola · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For a glorified podcast? This is a bit expensive considering their regular real sat service is about the same price, and has the glorious side benefit of being able to be listened to in the car, where most people listen to music. Maybe if the cost was half this, but at 13 bucks I dont see this moving anywhere.

    1. Re:13 bucks a month? by thc69 · · Score: 2, Informative
      It would also seem logical to me that they could expand their web service by making it a cheap add on for their current subscribers.
      It is free for current subscribers -- whose subscription rate is the same as this new rate. The only benefit this offers is that you don't need to buy a Sirius receiver.
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  6. Re:Watch out! by dangitman · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now??

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  7. Mobile Clients? by Erwos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I could honestly care less about Howard Stern, I am interested in this Internet streaming service of theirs. Does it have support for mobile clients, like PalmOS 5 and Windows Mobile 5?

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    1. Re:Mobile Clients? by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 4, Funny
      While I could honestly care less about Howard Stern
      You could? I couldn't. Really.
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    2. Re:Mobile Clients? by John+Nowak · · Score: 2, Funny

      *watches Erwos on his unicycle, flipping the bird, whilst backpedalling into a tree*

    3. Re:Mobile Clients? by Stalyn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Saying "I could care less" means "there is no limit on how less I care but rather a limit on the effort I put into not caring". For us Americans we don't challenge each other on the limit of not caring (which is a bottomless pit) but on how much effort is put into not caring (because we are so lazy, effort is more valuable).

      You couldn't care less? Well I surely could but it's not worth the effort.

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    4. Re:Mobile Clients? by Lactoso · · Score: 2, Funny
      "Have you ever heard of sarcasm?"
      Nope, don't think I have, but it sounds like a LOT of fun...
  8. CD-quality programming . . .Yeah right by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 4, Informative
    So many places say "CD-quality programming" and offer compressed audio . . . like CD-Quality MP3's etc. Typically this kind of audio isn't CD quality by definition of lossy compression and streaming rate. In fact last I checked the compression algorthim and bitstream rate for satellite talk radio is different from that of the same service's music stations (the talk radio stream has a lower bitrate and more compression) . . . because the audio frequency band and dynamic range are typically narrower in talk radio.

    CD-quality should imply a real and quantifiable level of quality . . . not "it sounds like a CD to the casual listener (that doesn't know that analog FM radio music is typically compressed in dynamic range and frequency and that radio broadcasts are already equalized for cheap car stereos and boomboxes)."

    1. Re:CD-quality programming . . .Yeah right by Enry · · Score: 4, Informative

      CD quality is generally 128kbps, regardless of the codec. That's what's used by just about all MP3 hardware vendors when they tell you how many songs you can put on their device, so that statement has been around for a while.

      Stern's broadcasts on Sirius as received by the hardware satellite receivers isn't at talk quality (~32kbps), but at the same quality as their music channels (~128kbps).

      The Internet service you get with Sirius that's standard is ~32kbps for all channels, which makes it sounds a little off. Doesn't matter to me all that much, but some people notice the difference. The new service that is being offered gives the channels at the higher quality bitrate.

      For those of you that think that now Stern is just 4-hours of 4-letter words, it's not. They're in there, and the discussions get a bit more frank than before, but it's like the terrestrial broadcast without the bleeps for the most part. At one point early on, Stern yelled at someone (Ronnie?) and told him to quit swearing all the time because it wasn't funny.

      Don't like Stern? That's fine. My dad hates him with a passion. A few months ago he asked me about my Sirius and a few weeks later he had his own radio in the car. He loves it. It's like cable TV - listen to what you want, there's a lot of variety. An unexpected gem is radio classics, playing radio shows from way back when. Jack Benny's humor still stands the test of time.

    2. Re:CD-quality programming . . .Yeah right by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      CD-quality should imply a real and quantifiable level of quality . . . not "it sounds like a CD to the casual listener (that doesn't know that analog FM radio music is typically compressed in dynamic range and frequency and that radio broadcasts are already equalized for cheap car stereos and boomboxes)."


      You know, I'm getting deadly tired of people bragging about they mp3 compression kung-fu knowledge.

      YES, WE REALIZE IT'S COMPRESSED.

      Geez.. and yea, it's CD quality to the casual listener and in fact just THAT is what it's supposed to mean. If you wanna see how much people care about marginal improvements in quality, see where DVD-Audio went, and you can witness where HD DVD and Blue Ray will go (hint: nowhere... I know, I know).

      People whining about professionally encoded (encoder matters a lot) mp3 streams of 128kbps and more having terrible quality really amaze me. It'd a damn radio after all. It's not like you recover critical encrypted messages hidden in the audio and you need 1:1 correspondence of each sample, or your kidnapped wife is dead in 24 hours.

      In a nutshell, you can take your mp3 l33t skills and your 64-bit audio 256kHz 15+1 surround system and shove it up your audio output socket.
    3. Re:CD-quality programming . . .Yeah right by Mike+Hicks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have XM rather than Sirius, but a lot of people have said that both services definitely don't reach the level of 128k MP3 quality. XM is 96kbps at best, which puts it more on par with FM, though I personally find the digital artifacts to be more annoying than FM static. Well, maybe Sirius is better -- I haven't had a chance to listen to it with a proper speaker setup (as in, something other than being piped in through the overhead speakers at a store).

      Oh, and that cable TV analogy doesn't work for me. It's true, but it doesn't work ;-) With cable TV, I'm paying for all these channels I don't want. Considering that sports channels are the most expensive for content providers, yet are the ones I watch the least, I wish I could get rid of them. Similarly, I'm only interested in a handful of XM channels. But, I suppose I haven't given them much chance -- I've had to turn off my satellite radio after ten minutes just because the audio quality problems became too annoying.

      Anyway, I just ended up getting satellite radio service as a built-in feature for the trim level I got on my car. I don't plan to continue the service after the initial free trial period.

    4. Re:CD-quality programming . . .Yeah right by NEW22 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The point is, why call it CD quality when its not? Why not call it FM quality, which would at least be somewhat closer to accurate, and somewhat farther from a lie? Also, a lot of people like you seem to dismiss people who actually care about the quality of the sound coming out of their XM/Sirius radios as marginal and somehow being jerks about all of this. Well, whatever you may think about their desire to have an actual quality signal, the fact is that advertising hype such as "CD Quality" exactly amounts to deception to this segment of the market. It is easy to see that someone might expect better quality out of a new technology, and saying "CD Quality" adds to this faulty impression.

      I'm not some Monster Cable, tube amp, super tech-literate wacked out picky audiophile, but very often I can tell a 128kbps encoded mp3 vs a CD or something of higher quality. Move encoding up to 160 kbps I am not sure that I could tell one way or another. All I am doing is actively listening to the music, which I realize is different from people who have it on as background noise, or as part of a social activity, but I'd like to think that its not so rare to actually actively listen to music for people, at least now and then, with some group or song they care about. If I had a choice between audio services, given how I occasionally like to listen to music, I would choose one with higher quality. If a service claimed to be CD quality, and actually was, that would be all I could ask for. If a service claimed to be CD quality, and I believed them, then I might (justifiably I think) be a little upset that I was lied to and that I can notice a lesser quality.

      That all seems pretty simple to me.

  9. How much for the service without Howard? by edwardpickman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'll happily pay more if they have a service without Howard. I'm getting ready to pick up a system and Howard Stern being on Sirius was the deciding factor not to go with them. It's personal tastes but I graduated high school a lot of years ago and hearing him takes me back to high school in all the bad ways. I can listen to obnoxious jerks for free, why would I pay for the priveledge. Yes I know I don't have to listen but I don't care to patronize a service that promotes that kind of programming. I was thrilled when he left the airwaves why would I want to chase the guy to satelite? Too many people these days are thrilled to tell you what to think. I grew up back at a time when the general belief was we should think for ourselves. Now we are all but taught that's dangerous. I guess it's easier for a lot of people to let the government, religous leaders or Howard Stern tell them what to think. If I want an opinion I'd rather go to one of the great minds of our time and Howard just isn't one of them. I don't need him to tell me who's cool or "in". I really don't care. It's childish and pointless.

    1. Re:How much for the service without Howard? by p4ul13 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Calm-o fan-boy, calm.

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    2. Re:How much for the service without Howard? by Lummoxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes I know I don't have to listen but I don't care to patronize a service that promotes that kind of programming. I was thrilled when he left the airwaves why would I want to chase the guy to satelite? Too many people these days are thrilled to tell you what to think.

      I was with you at first, but the quoted bit above is where you lost me. You don't like him, you don't want to listen, you were glad when he left regular radio...man, that's cool.

      The whole "they tell you what to think" rap...eh, not so much. I've listened to Howard for years, and point blank, it's entertainment. Nothing more, nothing less. Actually, Howard and the crew are really smart people. Sure, you tend to get a liberal slant on the occassions they delve into truly important topics, but at the same time, they tend to call things what they are.

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    3. Re:How much for the service without Howard? by green+menace · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How is Howard different from any political or social talkshow? Expressing your opinion is not the same as telling people what to think. You might as well crawl into a hole and don't forget your earplugs. I wouldn't want your beliefs polluted with someone elses opinion. And why are you on Slashdot?? Almost every post is someone trying to tell you what to think or believe, including this one as well as your own. It is called discussion.

      If you want to be mad at someone over people blindly listening to celebrities/religious leaders/politicians, blame the sheep that actually follow blindly without thinking.

      As for Howard, personal preference. I really like it, and not just for the naughty bits. I enjoy their conversations with each other. It is like listening to a dysfunctional, opinionated family who thinks they are the bee's knees. I have to laugh at how full of themselves they can be, but I enjoy the show. Either way, every service that provides entertainment is gonna have some crap that is childish, annoying and offensive - Sirius, XM, cable tv, you name it.

    4. Re:How much for the service without Howard? by Lummoxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sounds like WWF (or WWE, or `roids and trash talk, or whatever it is called now). The whole gag about acting stupid or obscene for "entertainment" is getting old, and I just don't see the entertainment in it.

      But that's not the entirety of his show. Yeah, it's a large part, and despite what anyone thinks it makes me, I get a laugh out of most of it.

      His interviews are the best. Whether asking serious questions, or the not so serious questions, no matter who is being interviewed, they tend to be interesting, and honest.

      Bottom line, it seems like his worst detractors don't even listen to the show. They base their opinions on what they hear, and not what they know, and if that's good enough for you, great. It's just the Howard Stern Show, afterall.

      If you're put off by any amount of the "adult oriented" humor, then yes, stay away. It doesn't mean that the Howard Stern Show isn't any good, or isn't entertaining, though. I think that's the point they miss, or don't want to hear.

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  10. Satellite radio in the car, great. At home, ??? by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have Sirius in my car as well as a home kit for use with my home stereo. I travel fairly often all over Western Canada so having satellite radio is sort of a must as I don't like to take scads of CDs with me. Sirus fits the bill perfectly and I have access to programs that I wouldn't normally on terrestrial radio, like Fox and CNN radio as well as the World Radio Network.

    Now, satellite radio in the car is one thing, but PAYING for the same content strictly for use in the home makes no sense. If you have the Internet you already have access to free, high quality radio stations playing a wide variety of music, never mind that all the cable and satellite companies include commercial free music stations as part of their basic digital service.

    I understand the need for Sirius to broaden their income base as they have yet to make money, but even the most novice Internet user is aware of free alternatives that offer essentially the same or better content.

  11. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe if I was still in my adolescence (or stuck in it) I'd really dig Howard Stern.

  12. Advertisement by Infernon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How is this pertinent to the geek community at all? It looks like an advertisement to me...

    1. Re:Advertisement by tenaciousdRules · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed! The slashdot coffers must be full of Karmazin payola! (I lost money on Sirius stock, who didn't? Makes me bitter.)

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  13. Re:Nothing new here, move on by viriiman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hoo-hoo Robin, I invented streaming my show on the internet, it was all me. Sirius, they're rippin me off.

  14. People said the same thing about Cable TV. by Lordleppard · · Score: 3, Insightful
    People said the same thing about Cable TV. They'd never pay for something they could get for free... Guess what? Most of you nay sayers now pay for cable. In fact I'd wager ALL of you do.

    I never listened to Howard when he was on terrestrial radio but now I do on Sirius. He's funny and there are some interesting interviews. Not all the time mind you but a fair amount of time.

    To the prudes out there that can't stand to hear what he has to say, don't listen. Turn the dial.

    $13 bucks a month is worth having something to listen to on the way to work. There are more then just Howards 2 stations to listen to.

    1. Re:People said the same thing about Cable TV. by Lordleppard · · Score: 3, Informative
      Actually, you didn't post facts. The facts are Sirius has 5.1 Million subscribers, XM 7 Million. When Stern joined Sirius had 700,000.

      http://www.mediabuyerplanner.com/2006/10/04/sirius _subscribers_surpass_5/index.php

      Seems you got it wrong bub.

  15. Hoo Hoo I invented Internet Radio, tell em Fred. by christowang · · Score: 2, Informative

    XM has been offering this for years now for $7.95.

  16. Stern == Boring by JuT333 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Bought Sirius for Stern and the music channels just to find out that Stern takes off every Friday and the regular music channels is flooded with DJ's who talk to just hear themselves talk. I fixed this problem by buying XMradio

  17. Re:stern = hack radio by jcr · · Score: 2, Funny

    How can a no-talent hack like me get a paycheck like that? Do you seriously believe that what Stern does shows a talent? If you want to do what Stern did, just get a radio show, and be an asshole. It worked for Stern, it worked for Limbaugh, and it could work for you, too. -jcr

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  18. If you dont like it, then dont listen by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Again, look at how many people are angry. If you don't want to listen, just dont! It's not like you HAVE to listen to satellite radio. I enjoy the program, so please dont go bitching to the FCC now just because you happened to: log on, click the link, and enjoy it until it got to something that offended you.

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  19. Just tune your FM radio to 87.9! by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I listen to Howard Stern all the time, commuting on route 128. All I do is tune my FM radio to 87.9.

    Apparently many Sirius satellite radio receivers must be add-on units that work through FM modulators with the car's FM radio. And 87.9 is apparently the default FM conversion setting.

    Based on my unscientific poll, during drive time something like 2/3 of Boston-area Sirius subscribers are tuned to Stern.

    OK, to tell the truth, no, I don't get continuous, uninterrupted Stern that way, but, yes, I do keep one of my presets at 87.9 and I do check from time to time to see if anything is on there... and I get enough Stern to feel like I'm still "in touch" with him and his gang.

    So, the question I have is, which is it? are jackbooted Sirius thugs going to sue me for theft of services? Or are jackbooted FCC thugs going to toss the converter operators in jail for operating pirate radio stations?

  20. Surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Leave it to a bunch of douchebags to trash talk Howard Stern in a geek forum. No talent hack? glorified podcast? I suppose the industry just hands half a billion dollars over to people who fit that profile.

    More relevant to the topic, I hope they don't take away net access to the people who already have subscriptions, or make them pay extra for it.

  21. Re:This will ruin "regular" radio for you by jamesoutlaw · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I agree. After thinking about it for several months, I picked up a Sirius receiver on sale at Target. I have not listened to terrestrial radio since that day. There were three stations that I used to listen to here in memphis and over the years, they all seemed to converge on the exact same playlist. I could switch from one station to the other and within 15 minutes hear the same song the previos station played. Also, I got really tired of listenting to the local DJs as well as the 15 minute commercial blocks every half hour (as it seemed).

    I chose Sirius over XM because Sirius has a better overall selection of programming. Also, I did not want to support XM's choice of political talk programming offerings. It seems now that Sirius is the better choice. Since Howard Stern started with them their list of subscribers had increased dramatically. Their growth rate was neary 2x XMs rate last quarter. I do like Howard Stern, and have for years, but he was not my primary reason for switching.

    Some people may think it's insane to "Pay" for radio, but I think it's insane to stick with terrestrial radio and having to listen to Kelly Clarkson every hour followed by that horrendous remake/cover/whatever of "Tainted Love" by whats-her-name. I'll gladly pay $13 a month for satellite radio, it's worth every penny. Just like pay television, satellite radio provides an alternative to people who do not want to put up with the limitations of "mass market" programming and the constant foolishness of the FCC.

  22. Re:stern = hack radio by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yeah, and Britney Spears sells a lot of CD's too. That doesn't make her a musical genius.

    Howard is WAY past his prime, anyway. He's an interesting guy, and is even capable of the occasional intelligent insight. But the daily grind of listening to him go on...and on...and on...and on...and on about strippers/lesbians/his dick/porn stars/etc. tends to get VERY old, very fast.

    When he was in his heyday, I listened to him. He had some interesting stuff to say and his interviews were truly unique (who else could have gotten away with asking Julia Roberts how big Liam Neeson's dick was?). But it was, at best, one good segment for every 15 lame ones. And that was in his HEYDAY (10-15 years ago).

    Besides, without the FCC or his wife to mock anymore, what's really left for him to do? He's like an aging knight in a world where all the dragons have already been slain.

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  23. Re:stern = hack radio by patrixmyth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think it's a mistake to equate the Howard Stern Show with Howard Stern. The show is dreck and appeals to the lowest common denominator in our society. If you lisen/watch for a bit, however, you'll realize that Howard Stern the person is a pretty smart guy who just happens to realize that appealing to the lowest common common denominator of society is pretty good for your paycheck. He doesn't respect his listeners and he knows that the second they have an opportunity to giggle and point at his misfortunes and kick him to the curb, they will do so. Meanwhile, he's getting a hell of a ride. He's a modern day P.T. Barnum barking for the freakshow. I never thought I'd use this term, but in this case it's true "Don't hate the player. Hate the game."

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  24. Re:stern = hack radio by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, but he's EXTREME . Being EXTREME is cool. You want to be cool, don't you? Then listen to Howard Stern. Because he's EXTREME , and EXTREME is cool. By listening to Howard Stern, you then become EXTREME -- and therefore cool -- by extension.

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  25. Free Stern? by catdevnull · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean I can get 4+ hours of infantile poopy jokes and lesbian fetish fantasies for free?

    I already get that with Slashdot and Fark!

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  26. It always has...just getting worse lately. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It always has...just getting worse lately.

    Ask yourself the same question the next time a Nintendo (proprietary gaming platform) or Google (proprietary search engine) blurb shows up. Many, if not most of Slashdot's stories are cheap, positive PR pieces for corporations open-source Slashdotters normally wouldn't support.

  27. Re:stern = hack radio by (A)*(B)!0_- · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Well, to come back to your original question. Yes, I believe that Stern has talent. The skills he has demonstrated in his interview techniques have changed both radio and the larger entertainment world forever. Furthermore, I don't believe Stern has had such great success because of the fart jokes (which you seem to believe is all he does). I would say that Stern's greatest revolution is making the broadcaster (and the team behind the scenes) more than just a voice presenting a script. Stern revolutionized radio in his approach to the relationship between his personal life and his listening audience. Again, I believe this demonstrated talent and boldness, given the landscape of radio at the time.

    Unfortunately, too many broadcasters focused on reproducing the crass jokes rather than what really made Stern special. It doesn't appear you were able to get past that either.

  28. Re:Howard Stern? Is it still 1995? by therealking · · Score: 2, Informative

    You should do the math yourself, if he added 5 million subs at 12.95 a month thats $51 million a month attributable to him. 10 months and sterns paid for in full. The other 4 years and 2 months is profit. And that doesn't include the $49+ a radio every one of those subs bought to listen.

    Sirius knew what they were doing, and they made a good deal.

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  29. To all commenting on Stern "not being relevant" by electricmba · · Score: 2, Informative

    Love him or hate him, it is impossible to claim he is not relevant in 2006. In his domain (entertainment), he was one of the top grossing performers last year, nudged out by only the likes of Steven Spielberg for total income. He's also considered one of the most powerful men in showbusiness, as evindenced by this article in Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/5S85.html ...which places him in position "7" out of 100 of the most powerful Celebrities in the entertainment business. The news story about having a couple of free days on Sirius may be ho-hum, and there may be many of you that have an extreme dislike for his programming...but irrelevant he is not.

  30. Re:Howard Stern? Is it still 1995? by joshsisk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, but in 5 years, once I have paid in $780, how much extra have they paid to keep me signed up?

    The answer is nothing. And it doesn't cost them ANYTHING extra to transmit to me. Their signal goes out just the same, either way.

    So in five years, I will have generated them $650. Possibly more as I imagine I will have bought a second reciever by then.

    Multiple that $650 by a few million other people and you have a business model that is similar to Cable Tv, which also probably generated tremendous losses in the beginning.

    Speaking of that, how much of that $130 figure you keep quoating is defrayed by the $100 i spent on my reciever + accessories. Not the full $100, of course, but some of that must have made it back to Sirius.

  31. Re:stern = hack radio by Iphtashu+Fitz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Howard is WAY past his prime, anyway. He's an interesting guy, and is even capable of the occasional intelligent insight. But the daily grind of listening to him go on...and on...and on...and on...and on about strippers/lesbians/his dick/porn stars/etc. tends to get VERY old, very fast.

    Keep in mind that for the past 5 years or so on terrestrial radio he was really holding back because of more draconian FCC regulations as well as his own bosses being afraid of lawsuits, loss of their FCC licenses, etc. Since he's been freed on Sirius of all that he's back to his old self again.

    Another thing that many people don't seem to realize is that Stern also has the rights to all the tapes of all his old shows. That's 20+ years worth of some of the most entertaining radio content out there, and all uncensored. They've already started playing some of it, and apparently they may even set up an entire channel devoted to all this old material. If you liked him in the old days then you can listen to it all over again, and this time without the bleeps and the cuts from the dreaded "dump button".