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Robot Swarm Shifts Heavy Objects

holy_calamity writes "A swarm of robots has been demonstrated that can get together to transport an object too heavy for a single bot. Each robot is loaded with the same simple set of behaviors but more complex intelligence emerges from a group interacting. Two videos show the robots in action, and using a more complex behavior necessary when they're set to short sighted mode and can't see the target location from the starting point."

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  1. hmmmmm might need modification by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The robots can adjust their caterpillar tracks, to ensure they are all pulling in the right direction. "Each robot has a traction sensor inside that detects all the external forces on it," explains Dorigo. A robot uses its sensor to identify any conflicting forces, and then changes direction accordingly.

    So, once its carrying your cargo along the path and begins to slide down a slope all the tracks will turn in unison to help carry it down the hill to its doom. They won't think anything is wrong because everyone will be pulling in the same direction.

    Apart from this minor detail i think w00t!

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    1. Re:hmmmmm might need modification by SigILL · · Score: 4, Funny
      So, once its carrying your cargo along the path and begins to slide down a slope all the tracks will turn in unison to help carry it down the hill to its doom. They won't think anything is wrong because everyone will be pulling in the same direction.

      Yeah, totally unlike humans!

      Er, wait...
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    2. Re:hmmmmm might need modification by MankyD · · Score: 2, Informative
      So, once its carrying your cargo along the path and begins to slide down a slope all the tracks will turn in unison to help carry it down the hill to its doom. They won't think anything is wrong because everyone will be pulling in the same direction.
      I'm assuming maybe this was more of a humorous comment, but I'll take the bait. It would be trivial (I would think) to add a pitch sensor of some sort, then do a little bit of simply physics/trig to adjust the force calculations.
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    3. Re:hmmmmm might need modification by DittoBox · · Score: 2, Funny
      hmmmmm might need modification

      The title certainly does. When I first read the header/title, I thought it said "Robot Swarm Shits Heavy Objects."

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  2. It's a simple question of weight rations. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A 5 oz bird cannot carry a 1 lb cocoanut.

    1. Re:It's a simple question of weight rations. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait a minute! Supposing two birds carried it together?

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    2. Re:It's a simple question of weight rations. by ack154 · · Score: 4, Funny

      To keep this a bit on topic...

      "Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?"

    3. Re:It's a simple question of weight rations. by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2, Funny

      African or European Swallows?

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    4. Re:It's a simple question of weight rations. by CodeViolator · · Score: 3, Funny

      What? Held under the dorsal guiding feathers?

  3. I welcome our new army of robot-swarm overlords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I for one welcome our new army of robot-swarm overlords.

    1. Re:I welcome our new army of robot-swarm overlords by homebrewmike · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh yeah?

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

      Hey - it had to be said.

  4. But can they.... by krell · · Score: 4, Funny

    But can they impersonate a T-Rex and mystify John Locke?

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  5. a HA! by justinbach · · Score: 2, Funny

    So THAT'S how they built the pyramids!

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  6. Why wasn't this a simulation? by dpbsmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The object was apparently to demonstrate something or other regarding cooperation strategies between robots with limited communication abilities and limited knowledge of the surroundings.

    What, precisely, was gained by doing this with actual physical robots, rather than a computer simulation?

    1. Re:Why wasn't this a simulation? by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Insightful


      What, precisely, was gained by doing this with actual physical robots, rather than a computer simulation?

      Gee, maybe things like accounting for things you never thought or had the ability to simulate? What makes you think that a computer can model every single thing (frictional forces, heat and stress on motors, etc) as well as actual reality?

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    2. Re:Why wasn't this a simulation? by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, but surely it can model the _cooperative_ aspects.

      I wouldn't trust a computer to predict whether a robot hand is capable of cracking an egg and peeling off the shell without damaging the membrane underneath.

      But I would trust a computer to model the effect of having robot A shine a blue light, robot B shine a red light, have robot A programmed to move toward a red light at 1 mph, and have robot B programmed to move away from a blue light at 2 mph. And I would trust it to model the effect of a twenty such robots.

    3. Re:Why wasn't this a simulation? by SpeedBump0619 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      What, precisely, was gained by doing this with actual physical robots, rather than a computer simulation?

      "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is." -- Computer Scientist Jan L. A. van de Snepscheut (or Yogi Berra, depending on who you believe)
    4. Re:Why wasn't this a simulation? by jotok · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Interaction effects result in "emergent" behavior because it's not readily apparent from the behavior of individuals. That is to say, sense-and-respond cycles are not easy to model unless you start out with a lot of data. A good example is ants--single ants wandering around demonstrate chaotic behavior in time and in space, whereas large numbers of ants demonstrate very ordered behavior (purposeful movement, all taking rests at the same time, etc.). We can model this because we've seen it, but before we ever saw it, it would probably have been outside of our abilities to predict that it would happen.

      In terms of complexity hierarchy, it doesn't make sense to make a model that is just an aggregation of different objects. You don't talk about the group behavior entirely in terms of the objects making up the group, because the objects don't demonstrate group behavior--the group does--so in some sense "half a herd of robots" doesn't make any sense. From the perspective from which the group behavior is evident, the group is a unitary individual.

      Clear as mud?

  7. Wasting time w/Humanoids? by TheMadTech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All these Japanese companies are dead set on the whole humanoid robot concept. While the AI systems are clearly a joke, why focus so much energy on bipedal movement? It is clearly not the easiest mode of transportation. Human walking is essentially controlled falling. Oh great a bunch of things that kind of resemble humans can lift something heavy all together. Why not just build a smart forklift to do the same job autonomously. It just doesn't make any sense.

    1. Re:Wasting time w/Humanoids? by Atmchicago · · Score: 4, Informative

      A few misconceptions to clear up:

      1. The robots are not bipedal
      2. The scientists are from Belgium, Italy, and Switzerland
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    2. Re:Wasting time w/Humanoids? by augustz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A couple of reasons:

      - They already ARE making lots of functional type robots. Toyotas factories have these all over the place.
      - The world as it is is designed for bipedals. If you can model a humans' movement, you can operate much of the human world potentially (climb ladders, etc)
      - There is a potential market for the humanoid concept. I think the market is validated in some ways by the amount of coverage they are getting for these things.

    3. Re:Wasting time w/Humanoids? by Quixadhal · · Score: 2, Funny

      It has nothing to do with efficiency.

      The Japanese have created humanoid robots. They will create human-like robots. These robots will be made to look exactly like female humans that don't actually exist. Once that's done, it's just a matter of time before we will all welcome our Japanese Pr0n Overlords.

  8. Re:Hah. by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can get the second video, but not the one of them "in action."

    Well, your office is clearly blocking material that's NSFW.

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  9. Re:Peep hole by Eideewt · · Score: 3, Funny

    The camera man had to hide in there to avoid spooking the robots.

  10. Cache? by tyler_larson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So would it be legal to upload a copy of these videos to YouTube or Google Video in order to take the load off the NewScientist server, and make the content accessible?

    You'd have to assume it's copyrighted content (since everything is copyrighted unless otherwise stated), and therefore not allowed. But how is a cached copy of a video on Google Video any different than a cached copy of a web page on Google Cache or MirrorDot? The purpose would be the same.

    I did get a copy of one of the videos before the servers went kaput that I could upload to a cache if it's allowed.

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  11. slashdotted by gerbouille · · Score: 5, Funny

    Watch the power of thousands of /.ers! Individually, they can't crash a web server, but together - with limited communication and intelligence - they can...

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  12. Management by 955301 · · Score: 4, Funny


    Looking at the video, try to spot the project management behavior that shows up towards the end once four of the bots figure out how to drag the object over. One of them just stops doing anything and stands out away from the group as if trying to think of ways to empower the resources to realize their action items.

    It is this bot that must be destroyed before the future of robotics is harmed.

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  13. This page was generated by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... by a Swarm of Green Robots.

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  14. SWARM intelligence is just silly by willy_me · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think that nature is a wonderful place from which researchers can gain inspiration. But when you stop and think about it robots and swarm intelligence just doesn't work. Robots are have different properties then insects and as a result, insect behavior doesn't transfer well to robots.

    It's all about energy. Both insects and robots have to be designed to optimize the amount of work done with their limited energy source. There are three basic tasks that consume energy.

    - thinking
    - communication
    - acting (ie, moving)

    Insects:

    Thinking is the most expensive task for an insect. Brains are expensive. They use a lot of energy and require a physical body to support the increased energy usage. As a result, insects don't think - they act. There actions are hard coded so as to minimize cost.

    Communication is difficult for insects to implement. Pheromones are relatively inexpensive, but impose serious limitations. Visual communication is possible (look at bees) but isn't used much. It also requires good eyesight and a neural network to decipher the images (both of which consume energy.) Audio communication is also possible but requires significant resources (ie, a brain) in order to be effective. In real life it is only used for the most basic forms of communication (look at crickets.) What I'm basically saying is that communication is expensive - as a result, insects found ways to work with minimal communication.

    Acting requires energy, but it is the most efficient of the three tasks. If you take into consideration that insects already require a body to acquire food and reproduce, the added cost of using that body to perform an action is minimal. Acting requires no additional parts, it only consumes a small additional amount of energy.

    Robots

    Acting is the most expensive task for a robot. To act, a robot requires a body. This adds weight, motors, complexity. Batteries suck, have a limited lifespan and are difficult to recharge. Nothing reduces an actor's lifespan quicker then acting. While new technology can improve the lifespan, it won't improve fast enough.

    Communication is expensive for a robot, but much cheaper then acting. Wireless communication allows for sophisticated communication between robots while using only a minimal amount of energy. New technology will improve the efficiency of communication more then it will the efficiency of acting.

    Thinking is cheap for a robot. New CPUs allow for complex programs while only consuming microamps.

    So this is what you have: (hight energy usage to low energy usage)

    insects - thinking, communicating, acting
    robots - acting, communicating, thinking

    They are the exact opposite. Does it really make sense to have robots mimic insects? It's crazy. A more efficient way for robots to perform a group task is to have them cooperate explicitly. Elect a leader, create a plan of action, distribute that plan, then act together while minimizing the amount of energy required.

    Willy