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Firefox 2.0 Posted a Day Early

A number of readers alerted us to the [link removed] day-early [accidental] posting of Firefox version 2.0. At this writing the top page at mozilla.com still doesn't mention its availability. One reader pointed us to [link removed] a mirror and another recommended a comprehensive review of Firefox 2.0, with many screenshots, over at mozillalinks.org. Update by RM: - links above removed at request of Mozilla release people. They asked us to link to this note instead. They're only asking us to wait until Tuesday Afternoon (U.S. Pacific Time) for the official 2.0 download, which isn't long. (Patience is a virtue, etc.)

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  1. Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linking to a 5.4Mb file directly on Slashdot. Nice!

  2. Damnit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And I just finished emerging 1.5...

    1. Re:Damnit! by Virtex · · Score: 3, Funny
      And I just finished emerging 1.5...
      Yeah, me too. And the worst part is that I started emerging 1.5 right after it came out!
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  3. So that's how they do it by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Firefox team are assured never to suffer 0-day exploits by making -1-day releases. Clever, clever...

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    1. Re:So that's how they do it by acidrain · · Score: 5, Funny

      They could also be the first to have a -1 day exploit, which would look even worse.

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    2. Re:So that's how they do it by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is this some sort of "There are only -3 types of people" joke?

    3. Re:So that's how they do it by dextromulous · · Score: 3, Informative

      It does not have your history... but it could if it tried a brute-force attack. Neat trick, btw :-D.

      The javascript is at http://www.gnucitizen.org/projects/attackapi/build /lib/AttackAPI/HistoryDumper.js and it works by making an 'a' tag, then checking if it was visited or not. So it is able to see if a link has been visited before, but it can't dump your history in a normal fashion. I bet it probably isn't exactly a feature... but hardly something to be paranoid about.

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  4. Firefox 2.0 is soooooooo fast... by PrintError · · Score: 4, Funny

    It beat itself to the internet!

    1. Re:Firefox 2.0 is soooooooo fast... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I must be the super fastest then. I beat myself to the internet every day.

  5. I smell a conspiracy by ZakuSage · · Score: 4, Funny
    from the let's-slashdot-mozilla dept.
    1. Re:I smell a conspiracy by Lucan+Varo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hence the early release. They saw the /. comming from miles away. Not that you can actually look through tubes or anything.

  6. Language by ostehaps · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sweet move to link to the en-GB version. That's the flavour I like!

    1. Re:Language by Xemu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why not use bittorrent for it's best legal use: downloading firefox!

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    2. Re:Language by The+Raven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To support Firefox. Why should I take the Mozilla Org's expensive bandwidth when I can torrent it, and use the mostly free bandwidth of 100 other peers.

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  7. Re:Huh? by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new meme-crushing overlords.

  8. I'll upgrade if by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1) it quits crashing all the time with the mplayer plugin when playing videos

    2) it finally has a sensible cookie blocking interface, à-la Mozilla, and not that atrocious settings tab that I have to scroll through to find the site I just blocked cookies from that I need to re-enable.

    Otherwise the current 1.x version works well enough for me.

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  9. Funny Related Links by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Funny

    Related Links: "Compare prices on Mozilla"

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  10. Which release group gets credit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And where is the /crack directory? I guess they put a serial in the nfo.

  11. Wikipedia Support for Firefox 2 Added by yurik · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is now Firefox 2 support enabled on all Wiki*edia sites. To use, navigate to http://en.wikipedia.org/ (or any other language/project), click the search engine selector button in the upper right corner, and click "add wikipedia". The added bonus is that auto-suggest is also working - as you type you search, it will provide a list of page titles that begin with the typed letters.

    One note - the timeout is set to 500ms, which is not too long (especially when the entire slashdot visits wiki). To make it longer, open firefox_install_dir\components\nsSearchSuggestions .js, and edit the "_suggestionTimeout: 500" line. Something like 2000 works fine for me.

    --Yurik / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik

    1. Re:Wikipedia Support for Firefox 2 Added by c_forq · · Score: 3, Informative

      It has been changed to 'wp $something' by default for a while now, but it is super easy to change to wiki (also as of a couple versions back the default 'dict $something' changed from reference.com to answers.com).

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  12. Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... by eipgam · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heaven forbid you actually learn to spell words correctly! :)

  13. Ill wait by Blackbrain · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pfffttt, no thanks. Let me know when IceWeasel is ready.

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  14. pls wait 24 hours by jhermans · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For crying out loud ! Can't we just leave those Mozilla folks alone for a day, so that they can prepare the release. They have to post 38 different executables, and do a very last check to see if they actually work.

  15. Re:As pointed out in MY story submission... by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or else you'll end up doing your neighbour a favour by changing his tyre

    To a different colour?

  16. Re:Huh? by LordEd · · Score: 4, Funny

    In soviet Russia, memes crush you!

  17. Re:Huh? by jpardey · · Score: 5, Funny

    1) crush meme 2) ? 3) profit!

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  18. Re:Huh? by WilliamSChips · · Score: 3, Funny

    Imagine a Beowulf cluster of memes...

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  19. Re:Huh? by Stormwatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stop crushing the memes, you insensitive clod!

  20. New version by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The latest version is quite nice. The integrated spell checker is worth it alone (I had been using an extension, but having it integrated is so much nicer).

    I thought I might could do away with Tab Mix Plus now, however it was quickly apparent that the extension is still a must. As a developer I'm too used to switching through multiple documents by history, not by some arbitrary linear order. So with Tab Mix Plus I can easily CTRL-TAB back and forth between a couple specific tabs, even if there are a dozen other tabs open. So I'm waiting for the author(s) to update it because it is no longer compatible.

    Happily, the other extensions I use all had upgrades for 2.0. That was my biggest gripe about FireFox in the past. Especially a previous upgrade that I think was security-related. The version went from like 1.5.0.2 to 1.5.0.3 and suddenly 90% of my extensions weren't compatible. That was unacceptable, especially with such a seemingly small change in version number.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:New version by gad_zuki! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      >The latest version is quite nice.

      As someone who is used to 20+ tabs at one time, I disagree. The new tab limitation is a pretty lousy UI change. Its like Mozilla and MS are trying to outcrap each other in the UI department. At 1024x768 I get 10 tabs. Now I have to scroll tabs (!) or use the tab selector (ugly hack) to see the rest. I know there's a config item I can change to restore 1.5 like behavoir but I shouldnt have to do this in a browser that advertises the advantages of tabs. The old system worked fine: tabs would dynamically shrink as you add more. If a user wants to have nice big tabs they know not to open more than 8 or so. Those who dont need to be reminded that the green slashdot favicon is actually Slashdot.org could open 20-30 tabs. I paid for this RAM and I like using it. Now everyone gets big tabs no matter what.

      Also, why are extensions called "add-ons" now?

  21. Its not a day early by Tama00 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its tuesday here in Austalia, for all you who dont know, the main developer for Firefox lives in New Zealand!

    SO it is ontime, not early.. you people of slashdot are just slow.

    1. Re:Its not a day early by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does the en-NZ version render all the text upside-down?

      Only in the northern hemisphere.

  22. Software Update by Despero · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really wish it was out on Software Update already. That, in my opinion, was the best new feature in Firefox 1.5, and many more software programs should adopt it.

    1. Re:Software Update by BZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      It'll hit Software Update when it's actually been released.

  23. Re:Quick Question; by Sarusa · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's built in!

    Options -> main -> startup -> when firefox starts -> show my windows and tabs from last time.

  24. word to this by thdexter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At this writing,
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
    and
    http://www.getfirefox.com/
    and
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
    all only say Firefox 1.5. Come f-ing on, slashdot, after having jumped the gun several times on freebsd. do they really need emails from everyone that produces software saying "only announce things when they're really announced" before checking a single website or two to see if something's officially out?

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  25. Re:Huh? by Werkhaus · · Score: 5, Funny

    OMG!!! Memes!!!!

  26. Snappy and uses less memory by Sarusa · · Score: 5, Informative

    One thing not really mentioned in the preview is that they definitely seem to have the memory under control finally. I've had up to 30 tabs open (only a dozen now) and have been using it all day and it's only using 75MB of memory. FF1.5 would be hovering around 250MB after the same use.

    It also feels much snappier in general, if only because it's not sprawling all over the paging file (I don't know what other speed tweaks it has).

    All my extensions except undoclosetab updated automatically (and that's built in now) so that was probably the smoothest upgrade I've ever had. Though I use the LittleFox theme and I was on version 1.5, which looked very strange in FF2.0. But after a manual 'look for updates' for themese it found LittleFox 1.7 which looks great.

    So far I'm very pleased with it.

  27. Firefox 3.0 by RobertF · · Score: 4, Informative

    Meh. As a web developer, I'm more anxious for the release of Firefox 3.0. Firefox 2 uses the same rendering engine as 1.5, they just wanted to compete with IE 7. Bah! I want a new Gecko!

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  28. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Won't anyone think about the memes?

  29. Re:For the sake of non-Windows users by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    For the sake of Dean Hachamovitch, IE7 general manager, please do not post any links to any Firefox executable on any platform.

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  30. 300 Memes Crushed in Sri Lana Tsunami! by BeeBeard · · Score: 3, Funny

    Woo woo fake trolls!

  31. BitTorrent links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Official Mozilla BitTorrent site:
    http://bittorrent.mozilla.org/
    (2.0 is not there yet, but use that link when it gets updated)

    Unofficial torrents (Website ads are NSFW):
    http://torrentspy.com/torrent/891929/Firefox_2_0_F inal_EN_US
    http://torrentspy.com/torrent/891930/Firefox_2_0_F inal_EN_GB
    (The first link is US version, second is GB version)

    (posted AC to avoid karma-whoring)

    1. Re:BitTorrent links by WilliamSChips · · Score: 4, Informative

      The new Firefox has a spell checker(one of the first things I disabled). There are spelling differences between US and UK English.

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    2. Re:BitTorrent links by kennygraham · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh yeah I actually new that. I like the spellchecker because I can think like a college grad but I spell like a 4 year old.

      Seems not even the spell checker will help you.

    3. Re:BitTorrent links by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Funny
      The American one searches the normal Amazon and Yahoo

      So the British version uses the perverted and kinky sites?

    4. Re:BitTorrent links by Ed+Avis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, in the British version of Firefox cookies are referred to as 'biscuits'.

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  32. Re:I'll wait thanks by dvice_null · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not officially released. Slashdot could do more harm than good by releasing these news early. See these responses what harm it does for releasing news before official release:
    http://ilias.ca/blog/2005/11/looking-at-ftp-sites- for-mozilla-releases/
    http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/looking-at-ftp-sites- for-mozilla-releases-part-ii/

    What is amazing is that Slashdot seems to do this with every release. What kind of editors we have here?

  33. Re:Actually it's 45.6 Mb by WilliamSChips · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is no such thing as a mebibyte. A megabyte is always 1048576 bytes. You also never use megabits when referring to file sizes, only when referring to the speed of a network connection. A megabit is 1000000 bits but it's rarely seen not per second.

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  34. How to get rid of the hideous tab bar gradients: by karmaflux · · Score: 4, Informative

    0. Make a working directory. I called mine "fff." Make two directories in it: 1 and 2. Now you'll have ~/fff/1 and ~/fff/2.
    1. Copy the /chrome/classic.jar file from the OLD firefox version to your ~/fff/1 directory. For example, on Slackware it's /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.7/chrome/classic.jar
    2. Unzip the classic.jar file. Copy ~/fff/1/skin/classic/global/browser.css to your ~/fff directory.
    3. Now copy the /chrome/classic.jar file from the NEW firefox install to ~/fff/2.
    4. Unzip the classic.jar file. Copy ~/fff/browser.css into ~/fff/2/skin/classic/global/browser.css. Just overwrite the file, because it sucks.
    5. From ~/fff/2, you can just do zip -f classic.jar. -f is freshen; zip will report that it updated the one file.
    6. Copy ~/fff/2/classic.jar back to where you found it in the NEW firefox install. I had mine in /usr/lib/firefox2/chrome/.
    7. Restart firefox, and let GTK render your widgets without any ugly gradients!

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  35. PLEASE stop linking to unreleased builds by BZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    See http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/preed/2006/10/the_a ntirelease.html for the Mozilla build team's take on articles like this one.

  36. OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Firefox 2 has not yet been officially released. Please be patient. We still plan on launching Tuesday, October 24th in the afternoon pacific time. Linking to anything other than getfirefox.com or mozilla.com hurts us, our volunteer mirror network, and our ability to effectively serve up and guarantee availability of Firefox. Thank you! -- cbeard@mozilla.org

    1. Re:OFFICIAL STATEMENT by TCM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously, mirrors should get different access than the public. You can't put something in plain sight and then complain if people notice. This is stupid.

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    2. Re:OFFICIAL STATEMENT by Kelson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And yet, somehow, it seems like with every Firefox release, someone decides to link Slashdot straight to an FTP site before they've finished pushing everything out. Firefox 2 beta 2, Firefox 2 beta 1... I'm sure you can find more, but I don't feel like searching further.

      Given this track record, what would it take for Slashdot to do a little checking the next time someone submits a "Firefox X released!" story?

  37. md5sums by jonasj · · Score: 4, Informative

    dec219811d989aeed2b8c7e338cc0b03 firefox-2.0.tar.gz
    dec219811d989aeed2b8c7e338cc0b03 firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz

    don't think there's been that many changes :-)

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  38. Re:Actually it's 45.6 Mb by dotgain · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sorry, the SI guys were in before.

    A MEGA-anything is a million. It has nothing to do with RAM manufacture, a filesize has no reason to be measured in power-of-two quantities.

  39. IE7 Makes Firefox Irrelevant by thelifter · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a shameless attempt on the part of Mozilla to stave off the crushing mindshare defeat that Microsoft is about to hand out with Internet Explorer 7. With improved support for stuff and things, IE7 promposes to make Firefox 2 obsolete by nightfall on it's release date.

    IE7 will ship with the patented Cure For Cancer toolbar and embedded network optimization that makes tastefully photographed adult literature download 50% percent faster than with the dinosaur browser.

    And that's not all. MS didn't forget about you developers. IE7's javascript debugger provides error messages that are 83% more ambiguous than with Firefox.

    It's a well known fact that FireFox's only real market growth is in the UK where people hate fire, but like foxes. Therefore, Firefox can only achieve 50% marketshare in the UK maximum. Elsewhere in the world where fire and foxes are both despised, the Firefox market is limited to people who like dinosaurs which is just 10 year old boys named Kyle.

    Just kidding.

    Firefox Rules.

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  40. Re:Yep its great by Ash-Fox · · Score: 3, Informative
    Except it deleted all my bookmarks from Firefox 1.5. Thanks.
    Didn't here. By the way, you can just restore using the bookmark backups in your profile directory.
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  41. Re:New feature worth having (resume session) by Alcari · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, and If you hit a site which causes the browser to crash, you can restart it with every site you've had opened ready to go and......oh wait......

  42. This old exploit still crashes v2.0. by antdude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    See this demonstration (do NOT go here unless you are willing to crash your Web browser). It still crashes Firefox v2.0. This is related to this old security isssue. :(

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  43. Re:Actually it's 45.6 Mb by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a filesize has no reason to be measured in power-of-two quantities.

    A filesize has lots of reasons to be measured in power-of-two quantities. If you don't think so, let us know which drives use powers-of-ten sector sizes and which filesystems read/write powers-of-ten block sizes.

    (The SI guys can take a hike. The computer industry has been using kilo, mega, etc for powers-of-two since they got away from decimal computers almost 50 years ago now. It was the disk drive marketing guys who started pre-empting that so that they could advertise their eg 95.37 MB drives as 100 MB.)

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  44. Re:Actually it's 45.6 Mb by Lord+Ender · · Score: 5, Funny
    (The SI guys can take a hike. The computer industry has been using kilo, mega, etc for powers-of-two since they got away from decimal computers almost 50 years ago now. It was the disk drive marketing guys who started pre-empting that so that they could advertise their eg 95.37 MB drives as 100 MB.)

    It's people like you who cause entire space missions to fail. "Mega" has meant a power of TEN for much longer than "the computer industry." Besides, computers are used outside the computer industry these days.

    Get with the times an learn the difference between Mi M Ki K Gi G B b etc..

    Any decent engineer would loathe ambiguity. You think "mega" should mean different things depending on context? What are you, a Perl programmer?!? DEMONS BE GONE!!
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  45. HA HA HA by Nimey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The /. editors will never live up to their job titles. They usually don't read the links themselves.

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  46. Re:Can somebody please tell me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thank you kind sir, I'm glad you noticed.

    I also wanted to note that people don't know enough about me and my life outside the Mozilla foundation.

    My name is Farouk Bakoh, a Solicitor/Notary public, and very active in the legal practice in Nigeria. I am also an in-law to the late President, General Sanni Abacha. Now General Abacha is dead, and Mohammed the first son is facing a lot of persecution due to his involvement in anti pro democracy activities during the rule of his late father. Also there are alleged fraud activities that Mohamed has been linked to with the father and, the government of today is after the family to recover everything. They have claimed all the family's wealth and I am making this contact on behalf of my sister, Mrs. Miriam Abacha, the wife, not minding the consequences, but hoping that you would understand our predicament hence the need for your urgent assistance and co-operation.

    My aim of contacting you is to crave your indulgence to assist us in securing some funds, abroad for safe keeping which incidentally is part of the family wealth. Fortunately with my immediate assistance, and contact, we were able to deposit the money in a security vault abroad pending when the whole situation will be calm. However, this security company does not have any knowledge of the content of the deposit, because it was done in the guise that the trunk contains precious stones. But owing the great risk we run presently due the new Democratic government's initiative to freeze and recover all monies supposedly misappropriated by the late President, we wish to relocate this fund in a foreigner's name to avoid any trace. Now that we are in a democratic government, this is our opportunity to remove the money, and we are willing to offer you 15% of the funds after the transaction for your co-operation. All I need from you is an assurance that you can handle the amount involved comfortably and that I can also trust you with this very arrangement.

    Be rest assured that there is no risk involved since I have taken care of everything. I want you to immediately inform me of your willingness in assisting and co-operating with us, so that I can send you full details of this transaction and let us make arrangement for a meeting and discuss at length on how to transfer this funds. Also furnish me with your private e-mail address, Tel/Fax Numbers (Private) for a personal contact with you. Finally, I am trusting on your full understanding on this, hoping that there will be absolute confidentiality.

    Awaiting with interest your response and hoping to develop good business relationship with you.

    Yours sincerely,

    Farouk Bakoh
    --cbeard@mozilla.org