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Firefox 2.0 Posted a Day Early
A number of readers alerted us to the [link removed] day-early [accidental] posting of Firefox version 2.0. At this writing the top page at mozilla.com still doesn't mention its availability. One reader pointed us to [link removed] a mirror and another recommended a comprehensive review of Firefox 2.0, with many screenshots, over at mozillalinks.org. Update by RM: - links above removed at request of Mozilla release people. They asked us to link to this note instead. They're only asking us to wait until Tuesday Afternoon (U.S. Pacific Time) for the official 2.0 download, which isn't long. (Patience is a virtue, etc.)
Linking to a 5.4Mb file directly on Slashdot. Nice!
And I just finished emerging 1.5...
The Firefox team are assured never to suffer 0-day exploits by making -1-day releases. Clever, clever...
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
It beat itself to the internet!
Sweet move to link to the en-GB version. That's the flavour I like!
I, for one, welcome our new meme-crushing overlords.
1) it quits crashing all the time with the mplayer plugin when playing videos
2) it finally has a sensible cookie blocking interface, à-la Mozilla, and not that atrocious settings tab that I have to scroll through to find the site I just blocked cookies from that I need to re-enable.
Otherwise the current 1.x version works well enough for me.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Related Links: "Compare prices on Mozilla"
Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
And where is the /crack directory? I guess they put a serial in the nfo.
There is now Firefox 2 support enabled on all Wiki*edia sites. To use, navigate to http://en.wikipedia.org/ (or any other language/project), click the search engine selector button in the upper right corner, and click "add wikipedia". The added bonus is that auto-suggest is also working - as you type you search, it will provide a list of page titles that begin with the typed letters.
s .js, and edit the "_suggestionTimeout: 500" line. Something like 2000 works fine for me.
One note - the timeout is set to 500ms, which is not too long (especially when the entire slashdot visits wiki). To make it longer, open firefox_install_dir\components\nsSearchSuggestion
--Yurik / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik
Heaven forbid you actually learn to spell words correctly! :)
Pfffttt, no thanks. Let me know when IceWeasel is ready.
Where would we be if Wheel had hid her round rock in a cave instead of showing everyone how it rolls?
For crying out loud ! Can't we just leave those Mozilla folks alone for a day, so that they can prepare the release. They have to post 38 different executables, and do a very last check to see if they actually work.
Or else you'll end up doing your neighbour a favour by changing his tyre
To a different colour?
Summation 2
It's payback for Mozilla's actually trying to assert its trademark rights!
In soviet Russia, memes crush you!
1) crush meme 2) ? 3) profit!
I have freaks! I did something right...
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of memes...
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
Stop crushing the memes, you insensitive clod!
Circumcision is child abuse.
Please don't make the first link in a post a blind link to a Windows executable.
The latest version is quite nice. The integrated spell checker is worth it alone (I had been using an extension, but having it integrated is so much nicer).
I thought I might could do away with Tab Mix Plus now, however it was quickly apparent that the extension is still a must. As a developer I'm too used to switching through multiple documents by history, not by some arbitrary linear order. So with Tab Mix Plus I can easily CTRL-TAB back and forth between a couple specific tabs, even if there are a dozen other tabs open. So I'm waiting for the author(s) to update it because it is no longer compatible.
Happily, the other extensions I use all had upgrades for 2.0. That was my biggest gripe about FireFox in the past. Especially a previous upgrade that I think was security-related. The version went from like 1.5.0.2 to 1.5.0.3 and suddenly 90% of my extensions weren't compatible. That was unacceptable, especially with such a seemingly small change in version number.
Dan East
Better known as 318230.
Its tuesday here in Austalia, for all you who dont know, the main developer for Firefox lives in New Zealand!
SO it is ontime, not early.. you people of slashdot are just slow.
I really wish it was out on Software Update already. That, in my opinion, was the best new feature in Firefox 1.5, and many more software programs should adopt it.
but does it run memes?
My 0.02 cents
It's built in!
Options -> main -> startup -> when firefox starts -> show my windows and tabs from last time.
At this writing,
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
and
http://www.getfirefox.com/
and
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/
all only say Firefox 1.5. Come f-ing on, slashdot, after having jumped the gun several times on freebsd. do they really need emails from everyone that produces software saying "only announce things when they're really announced" before checking a single website or two to see if something's officially out?
I'm on a road shaped like a figure eight; I'm going nowhere but I'm guaranteed to be late.
It is, they already have the RC in.
Slashdot anagrams to "Sad Sloth"
OMG!!! Memes!!!!
One thing not really mentioned in the preview is that they definitely seem to have the memory under control finally. I've had up to 30 tabs open (only a dozen now) and have been using it all day and it's only using 75MB of memory. FF1.5 would be hovering around 250MB after the same use.
It also feels much snappier in general, if only because it's not sprawling all over the paging file (I don't know what other speed tweaks it has).
All my extensions except undoclosetab updated automatically (and that's built in now) so that was probably the smoothest upgrade I've ever had. Though I use the LittleFox theme and I was on version 1.5, which looked very strange in FF2.0. But after a manual 'look for updates' for themese it found LittleFox 1.7 which looks great.
So far I'm very pleased with it.
It is, I've been using Edgy and Firefox updated today. By the way, I got Beryl (formally compiz) running on Edgy a LOT easier than on Dapper - if that matters to you at all - and Automatix 2 already supports Edgy.
Computers allow humans to make mistakes at the fastest speeds known, with the possible exception of tequila and handguns
Meh. As a web developer, I'm more anxious for the release of Firefox 3.0. Firefox 2 uses the same rendering engine as 1.5, they just wanted to compete with IE 7. Bah! I want a new Gecko!
And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be bannana-shaped.
Won't anyone think about the memes?
Woo woo fake trolls!
Official Mozilla BitTorrent site:
F inal_EN_USF inal_EN_GB
http://bittorrent.mozilla.org/
(2.0 is not there yet, but use that link when it gets updated)
Unofficial torrents (Website ads are NSFW):
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/891929/Firefox_2_0_
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/891930/Firefox_2_0_
(The first link is US version, second is GB version)
(posted AC to avoid karma-whoring)
It's not officially released. Slashdot could do more harm than good by releasing these news early. See these responses what harm it does for releasing news before official release:- for-mozilla-releases/- for-mozilla-releases-part-ii/
http://ilias.ca/blog/2005/11/looking-at-ftp-sites
http://ilias.ca/blog/2006/04/looking-at-ftp-sites
What is amazing is that Slashdot seems to do this with every release. What kind of editors we have here?
There is no such thing as a mebibyte. A megabyte is always 1048576 bytes. You also never use megabits when referring to file sizes, only when referring to the speed of a network connection. A megabit is 1000000 bits but it's rarely seen not per second.
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
Some people have voiced their concern that this release is not worth the 2.0 moniker. I however don't understand the point. If numbers are to be believed, this version is as incremental as 1.5 was for 1.0
This is an exceptionally bad argument. In version-land, 1.0-->1.5 != 1.5-->2.0. This is where things like "version 1.13" come from. It's simply not a decimal representation. So, unless there's some compelling change, whether it be to functionality and UI or to the underlying code base, there's no justification for bumping the major version number. (Chessmaster 9000 is, of course, a special case.) This is in no way to denigrate the efforts of the development team.
Shop as usual. And avoid panic buying.
Maybe they'll do an extension to let the extension install after upgrading. Firefox: extensions extensions extensions!... and look! it also surfs the internet...
I like your meme, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower
0. Make a working directory. I called mine "fff." Make two directories in it: 1 and 2. Now you'll have ~/fff/1 and ~/fff/2. /chrome/classic.jar file from the OLD firefox version to your ~/fff/1 directory. For example, on Slackware it's /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.7/chrome/classic.jar /chrome/classic.jar file from the NEW firefox install to ~/fff/2. /usr/lib/firefox2/chrome/.
1. Copy the
2. Unzip the classic.jar file. Copy ~/fff/1/skin/classic/global/browser.css to your ~/fff directory.
3. Now copy the
4. Unzip the classic.jar file. Copy ~/fff/browser.css into ~/fff/2/skin/classic/global/browser.css. Just overwrite the file, because it sucks.
5. From ~/fff/2, you can just do zip -f classic.jar. -f is freshen; zip will report that it updated the one file.
6. Copy ~/fff/2/classic.jar back to where you found it in the NEW firefox install. I had mine in
7. Restart firefox, and let GTK render your widgets without any ugly gradients!
REM Old programmers don't die. They just GOSUB without RETURN.
and even the memes look different!
See http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/preed/2006/10/the_a ntirelease.html for the Mozilla build team's take on articles like this one.
Firefox 2 has not yet been officially released. Please be patient. We still plan on launching Tuesday, October 24th in the afternoon pacific time. Linking to anything other than getfirefox.com or mozilla.com hurts us, our volunteer mirror network, and our ability to effectively serve up and guarantee availability of Firefox. Thank you! -- cbeard@mozilla.org
dec219811d989aeed2b8c7e338cc0b03 firefox-2.0.tar.gz
:-)
dec219811d989aeed2b8c7e338cc0b03 firefox-2.0rc3.tar.gz
don't think there's been that many changes
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
A MEGA-anything is a million. It has nothing to do with RAM manufacture, a filesize has no reason to be measured in power-of-two quantities.
This is a shameless attempt on the part of Mozilla to stave off the crushing mindshare defeat that Microsoft is about to hand out with Internet Explorer 7. With improved support for stuff and things, IE7 promposes to make Firefox 2 obsolete by nightfall on it's release date.
IE7 will ship with the patented Cure For Cancer toolbar and embedded network optimization that makes tastefully photographed adult literature download 50% percent faster than with the dinosaur browser.
And that's not all. MS didn't forget about you developers. IE7's javascript debugger provides error messages that are 83% more ambiguous than with Firefox.
It's a well known fact that FireFox's only real market growth is in the UK where people hate fire, but like foxes. Therefore, Firefox can only achieve 50% marketshare in the UK maximum. Elsewhere in the world where fire and foxes are both despised, the Firefox market is limited to people who like dinosaurs which is just 10 year old boys named Kyle.
Just kidding.
Firefox Rules.
You can make a difference. Donate to The LEEBY (Larry Ellison's Even Bigger Yacht) Fund.
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
Yes, and If you hit a site which causes the browser to crash, you can restart it with every site you've had opened ready to go and......oh wait......
See this demonstration (do NOT go here unless you are willing to crash your Web browser). It still crashes Firefox v2.0. This is related to this old security isssue. :(
Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
a filesize has no reason to be measured in power-of-two quantities.
A filesize has lots of reasons to be measured in power-of-two quantities. If you don't think so, let us know which drives use powers-of-ten sector sizes and which filesystems read/write powers-of-ten block sizes.
(The SI guys can take a hike. The computer industry has been using kilo, mega, etc for powers-of-two since they got away from decimal computers almost 50 years ago now. It was the disk drive marketing guys who started pre-empting that so that they could advertise their eg 95.37 MB drives as 100 MB.)
-- Alastair
Meme too!
Free beer is never free as in speech. Free speech is always free as in beer.
Like you, I used to think disk manufacturers were behind this for the purpose of deception, but it turns out they've been correct all along (with a few exceptions, but we won't go into that here.)
When we enquire of a filesize, it's often to calculate how long it will take to travel a certain data link. Base 2 math is entirely irrelevant there, and it makes pure sense to treat Mega as meaning "one million, +/- zero".
Please don't fight it. It's important we make the distinction consistently so we can get out of this mess for once and for all. Regards, Ben.
If you don't think so, let us know which drives use powers-of-ten sector sizes
I don't know what, if any, drives use power of ten sector sizes, but I guarantee you that no modern drive uses powers of 2 for its sector size. They often use it for sector payload size, but the actual sector consists of many more bits than just the payload.
For example, a DVD sector has a payload of 2048 but a total length of 2064 which includes 4 byte ID, a 2 byte IES, 6 bytes of CPR MAI and a 4 byte EDC. But, if you take it even further, the data gets reed-solomon ECC data included for each frame of 16 sectors (a frame being the smallest possible piece of data to write to a DVD) plus it all gets encoded in EFM with the end result that each sector is 38688 bits long, but interleaved with the other 16 sectors in that frame. See here: http://pioneer.jp/crdl/tech/dvd/2-3-e.html
Hard disks have similar funky layouts, although I don't think interleaving is usually part of it and the specs aren't so easy to hunt down because they are often unique to each model from each manufacturer.
You might argue that sector payload is what "counts" - to that I say you are making up an arbitrary distinction. If that were an acceptable argument, then one could say the same thing about networks - that it is the packet payload that counts and not the raw packet itself. After all, with the earlier MFM and RLL drives, the entire sector contents were exposed to the disk controller card on the system just like the entire packet contents are exposed to the network interface cards on current systems (presuming you don't have a tcp offload engine or the like, that is).
which filesystems read/write powers-of-ten block sizes.
Here you are correct. But the reason has nothing to do with the nature of disks, but rather with the binary nature of RAM and the data types used to keep track of the data on disk.
about:config, set browser.urlbar.hideGoButton to true
While we're at it, set browser.tabs.closeButton to 3 to revert the tab close buttons to 1.5's behavior.
Not sure about the search button, but for that you can download an extension that behaves in a way you prefer.
It's people like you who cause entire space missions to fail. "Mega" has meant a power of TEN for much longer than "the computer industry." Besides, computers are used outside the computer industry these days.
Get with the times an learn the difference between Mi M Ki K Gi G B b etc..
Any decent engineer would loathe ambiguity. You think "mega" should mean different things depending on context? What are you, a Perl programmer?!? DEMONS BE GONE!!
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
Sorry, the SI guys were in before.
A MEGA-anything is a million. It has nothing to do with RAM manufacture, a filesize has no reason to be measured in power-of-two quantities.
It's because, as everyone knows, data is slightly compressible. If you define the height of a single bit as 1 arbitary unit, when you stack 1024 of them on top of each other, the weight of all those bits squashes them down so that the stack is only 1000 units high. As soon as you pull one out of the stack to look at it, it springs back to its original size.
More seriously, this "maybe-bytes" rubbish annoys the crap out of me. A megabyte has been 2^20 bytes for all of the 25-odd years I've been in this field, and has been understood to be so by the vast majority of skilled professionals. It's completely normal for specialised fields to slightly redefine some terms for greater utility, and, in computing, powers of two have far more utility than powers of ten.
Besides, SI deals with physical quantities. Bits are abstractions with no physical reality, so they don't fall within the scope of SI.
What would Lemmy do?
see this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButton s
The /. editors will never live up to their job titles. They usually don't read the links themselves.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
Ha, ha! Fixed it myself.
k y&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=
For anyone curious:
Go to about:config (type it into the location bar)
Select: Keyword.URL
Change the value to this: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=I'm+Feeling+Luc
All is well.
--
RumorsDaily
Thank you kind sir, I'm glad you noticed.
I also wanted to note that people don't know enough about me and my life outside the Mozilla foundation.
My name is Farouk Bakoh, a Solicitor/Notary public, and very active in the legal practice in Nigeria. I am also an in-law to the late President, General Sanni Abacha. Now General Abacha is dead, and Mohammed the first son is facing a lot of persecution due to his involvement in anti pro democracy activities during the rule of his late father. Also there are alleged fraud activities that Mohamed has been linked to with the father and, the government of today is after the family to recover everything. They have claimed all the family's wealth and I am making this contact on behalf of my sister, Mrs. Miriam Abacha, the wife, not minding the consequences, but hoping that you would understand our predicament hence the need for your urgent assistance and co-operation.
My aim of contacting you is to crave your indulgence to assist us in securing some funds, abroad for safe keeping which incidentally is part of the family wealth. Fortunately with my immediate assistance, and contact, we were able to deposit the money in a security vault abroad pending when the whole situation will be calm. However, this security company does not have any knowledge of the content of the deposit, because it was done in the guise that the trunk contains precious stones. But owing the great risk we run presently due the new Democratic government's initiative to freeze and recover all monies supposedly misappropriated by the late President, we wish to relocate this fund in a foreigner's name to avoid any trace. Now that we are in a democratic government, this is our opportunity to remove the money, and we are willing to offer you 15% of the funds after the transaction for your co-operation. All I need from you is an assurance that you can handle the amount involved comfortably and that I can also trust you with this very arrangement.
Be rest assured that there is no risk involved since I have taken care of everything. I want you to immediately inform me of your willingness in assisting and co-operating with us, so that I can send you full details of this transaction and let us make arrangement for a meeting and discuss at length on how to transfer this funds. Also furnish me with your private e-mail address, Tel/Fax Numbers (Private) for a personal contact with you. Finally, I am trusting on your full understanding on this, hoping that there will be absolute confidentiality.
Awaiting with interest your response and hoping to develop good business relationship with you.
Yours sincerely,
Farouk Bakoh
--cbeard@mozilla.org
For some reason I internally pronounce it as "Gimpibyte", but I may have some issues I need to work out.
No. Numbers do not mean different things depending on context. That is a terrible idea and and anyone who thinks that is a good thing should be shot.
kilo = 1000. universally.
how stupid would it be to say ten = 10, except when we are talking about industry X, then ten = 12? terribly stupid. kilo = 1000, kibi = 1024. if you hate the word kibi, then just write 1024. end of story. no context mystery. no ambiguity.
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.