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How to Hack the Vote and Steal the Election

divisionbyzero writes "Many people have asked for it so that the government will have to deal with it. So here it is: a guide to stealing an election that uses electronic voting machines written by Jon Stokes over at Arstechnica. From the article: "In all this time, I've yet to find a good way to convey to the non-technical public how well and truly screwed up we presently are, six years after the Florida recount. So now it's time to hit the panic button: In this article, I'm going to show you how to steal an election.""

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  1. Lack of ethics by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I agree that this is perhaps THE most pressing issue right now for Americans, but is it really ethical to distribute this kind of information? At what point do you take responsibility for what you post, and NOT diseminate information that, in the wrong hands, will cause what you are trying to prevent?

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    1. Re:Lack of ethics by chrismcdirty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd go as far to say that it is more ethical to distribute it. The information becomes widely known. Maybe someone will hack an election to make it very obviously hacked, thus forcing a re-vote with an honest, verifiable way to count votes.

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    2. Re:Lack of ethics by Recovering+Hater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or is it more unethical to have access to information that threatens us all and not say anything for fear that some "bad guy" might use it against us? The truth is that some "bad guy" is already sitting around thinking up ways to to use the information or writing the information down for himself from scratch. Security through obscurity never works for long.

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    3. Re:Lack of ethics by rainmayun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, if your ethics demand that you do whatever is in your power to change the situation. The alternative to this? Security by obscurity... and we all on Slashdot know how well that works...

    4. Re:Lack of ethics by Atraxen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Correct. As a chemist, I know what harm chemistry can cause - illegal pharmaceuticals, explosives, etc. And so, I demand an immediate crackdown on publically accessible chemistry texts, to ensure a brighter tomorrow.

      Correct. As a firearm owner, I know what harm firearms can cause - killings, accidental shootings, property damage, etc. And so, I demand an immediate crackdown on publically accessible repair manuals, to ensure a brighter tomorrow.

      Correct. As a driver, I know what harm poor driving can cause - vehicular homicide, property damage, etc. And so, I demand an immediate crackdown on access to automobiles, driving instruction literature, etc., to ensure a brighter tomorrow.

      Congressmen should maintain an exemption to all of the above, to ensure they can oversee said systems, and protect the workings of our great society. Public oversight should not be necessary, as I have full trust in the state.

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    5. Re:Lack of ethics by BoomerSooner · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just hope someone does it. MY PARTY!!! lol... the system is screwed.

      When people give a shit more about some gays marrying in NJ than they do about genocide in Darfur, military and civilian deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan, and people dying in this country due to being priced out of receiving their necessary meds, we have become a country that has lost focus on things that *actually matter*.

      That being said, I'm not optimistic anyone that's in my camp has the guts to steal an election, we'd rather give it away. Liberal media my ass... I wish!

    6. Re:Lack of ethics by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > I'd go as far to say that it is more ethical to distribute it. The information becomes widely known. Maybe someone will hack an election to make it very obviously hacked, thus forcing a re-vote with an honest, verifiable way to count votes.

      And if they get away with it, honestly, is that really so bad?

      DATELINE: January 27, 2009 - President Stallman and GNUHSEC announces arrest of Redmond, WA voting-machine hackers.

      President Stallman today announced the disruption of a terrorist plot, allegedly involving electoral fraud originating from a the terrorist organizations known as the Red Mond Alliance and the Darlings of McBride, both of which owe allegiance to a shadowy figure known only as the Monkey of the Thrown Chair.

      "Let the elections of 2008 stand as a warning to all who would attempt to defraud the American public", warned Vice President Eric Raymond. "The GNUTIA (Gnu's Not Total Information Awareness) surveillance programme is fully operational, and GNUHSEC (Gnu's Not Homeland Security) agents will not tolerate any future incidents of voter fraud."

    7. Re:Lack of ethics by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When people give a shit more about some gays marrying in NJ than they do about genocide in Darfur, military and civilian deaths in Iraq & Afghanistan, and people dying in this country due to being priced out of receiving their necessary meds, we have become a country that has lost focus on things that *actually matter*.

      You left off the words "to me".

    8. Re:Lack of ethics by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People hav ebeen writing reports and letters to the machine manufacturers and politicians since BEFORE the 2004 election warning how unsecure the electronic voting system was. A totally new way to bypass what little "security" these machines have seem to show up on a monthly basis.

      People have given sworn testimony in court about the security issues and how their concerns fell on deaf ears in upper management, or sometimes even met with legal threats and unemployment.

      Quite simply, proper channels HAVE been exhausted. Either nobody gets it or they are deliberately trying not to hear it.
      =Smidge=

    9. Re:Lack of ethics by h4rm0ny · · Score: 4, Insightful


      You're joking? The people with the motivation to rig the election are the main parties. They're also best placed to get away with it. Who are these "terrorists" that would want to rig the results? As far as a group like Al Quaeda (who I presume you're thinking of here), both the main parties are pretty much identical. They are, after all, funded by the same players and neither has shown much compassion to the people of Saudi Arabia in living memory.

      Terrorists want attention and to make a statement. Rigging an election is something that has limited benefit once it is publically known. If an election is or has been rigged, you'll find the culprits much closer to home.

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    10. Re:Lack of ethics by HappySqurriel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You left off the words "to me".

      True enough, the importance of an issue is largely subjective ...

      Another way to look at issues is how time critical are the issues at hand, and one thing you'll notice is that the most time critical issues (genocide for example) are usually the ones that fall lowest on the national/international radar. Gay marriage will be heavily debated both inside and outside of the media where (regardless of the outcome) ten years from now the day to day lives of those involved in this issue will remain (essentially) the same; genocide (on the other hand) will not be a focus of any news report (or debated much by anyone) yet every day that passes means that hundreds or thousands of people die as a consequence of doing nothing.

    11. Re:Lack of ethics by Plutonite · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To him?

      Mass murder, loss of life due to partial failure of socio-economic systems in some classes, war and chaos are all private matters of concern now? Don't know why I should have to actually say this at risk of karma, but a if a few guys screwing each other in NJ with matrimonial ambitions - if they are more important to us than the above issues, then maybe we have lost a lot more than just "focus".

    12. Re:Lack of ethics by pudro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If only there were millions upon millions of unwanted children that would otherwise die or lead poor quality lives for these gay couples to adopt so that they could counter your argument.

      Oh wait...

      And if only having kids wasn't a prerequisite for marriage and licenses weren't being revoked from straight couples who can't produce children.

      Oh wait...

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    13. Re:Lack of ethics by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No, he left off the words "to sane, rational people who haven't let their vindictive excuse for morality blind them to the real problems." If you're claiming there are valid reasons to prioritize the "dudes kissing" problem over genocide in Darfur and the Iraq war, you're going to have to present them, because I'm pretty damned skeptical.

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    14. Re:Lack of ethics by AllahsAvatar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm fairly certain that the human race would be in no danger of under populating, if same sex marriages/ civil unions, were legal. Or for that matter if marriage were abolished altogether, we still wouldn't have that problem. People have been having babies much longer than the idea of marriage has been around.

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    15. Re:Lack of ethics by thrillseeker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Another way to look at issues is how time critical are the issues at hand

      Well, you still left off the words "to me". The genocide in the Sudan is unlikely to affect the majority of the voters - in any country - regardless of the eventual outcome, hence it continues, to the tune of millions dead even - but what's a few million dead people - over 60% (2.5 million or so) of the Montagard tribe of Vietnam was exterminated after the peace loving Americans forced the US military to cut and run from Vietnam - but hey, they ended the war, eh. The situation in Iraq, etc., due to the rise of terrorism, the importance and quantity of oil, the historical and stated intent of the ruling elite (as we watch Iran pontificate now), and even the historical influence of the Ottoman peninsula, affects many people, and hence the interest. It's "easy" to liberate a Grenada, except for the shitstorm of "unbiased" press reports afterwards, but not so easy in Haiti, for example, nor in Iraq - but Iraq has much more influence, whether for or against, because of location, etc., to the US, and so is important.

    16. Re:Lack of ethics by mrchaotica · · Score: 2
      ...this felony?

      If done for the right purpose (i.e., making the winner something so absurd that it is obvious it was faked, in order to draw attention to the issue), I'd say that someone who hacked the election should be lauded as a hero, rather than persecuted as a felon.

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    17. Re:Lack of ethics by rblum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hm. People dying vs. marriage between same-gendered people. Yes, clearly priorities here are only personal preferences.

      Look - nobody is saying his (or your) way to reform the medical system is right. But it *is* broken, and we need to talk about fixing it. It's not bums who don't get coverage - it's blue collar people who need to take several jobs and *still* can't get decent coverage. Who's poking whom where is not exactly an overriding concern, compared to that.

      Iraq is undebatably a clusterfuck - even el Jefe agrees by now. Again, nobody says either side has the right solution, but shouldn't that discussion *also* receive more exposure than sex between consenting adults? (BTW: If your complaint is that they now get privileges from the government, there's an easy solution - neither hetero nor homo couples get any preferrential treatment over singles. Screw government interference).

      As to your other perceived threats: Kim Il Jong, on a *really* good day for him might be able to kill a million Americans. That's if he's having a really good day, and around 2015 when he might have ICBMs. In the meantime, each year 60,000 Americans *do* die due to missing medical coverage. (I'm not even going into the fact that Dick Cheney more or less killed negotiations with both NK and Iran because "you don't negotiate from a position of power" - water under the bridge).

      Either way, nobody is proposing to ignore NK. Or Osama. Just maybe focusing a couple of the billions we hand to Haliburton (look at the GOA reports how *much* of that is just waste) on other topics, and doing something good on the side.

      But I guess the thought that you might have to give up some of your money to do humanitarian works as opposed to blowing people up is just not bearable...

    18. Re:Lack of ethics by Johnny5000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Marriage is the very cornerstone of American civilization, and to allow same sex marriages would fundamentally damage the institution of marriage, and by extension fundamentally damage American civilization. By that reasoning, it must take priority over any external issue.

      Again, I, personally, don't believe that to be a logical viewpoint, but there are others out there who do.


      If people really wanted to defend marriage, they'd outlaw divorce.

      Also, when people pull out the "damage the institution of marriage" I usually ask them
      how exactly the damage occurs, because honestly I don't see how gay people getting
      married affects the marriages of straight people.

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    19. Re:Lack of ethics by Jaeph · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People always play this stupid game - it's about life and death, who cares about [insert lesser issue].

      So we shouldn't build roads, fund museums, build schools, create wildlife sanctuaries, and so on. All of our cash should go to immediate life-saving projects.

      OH, and for the record, while I'm not in either "camp" and don't give a squat about the sexual practices of NJ males, it was never really about that. It's all about the money (government benefits to spouses), and it always is. Both sides put a bunch of nonsense up on the airways and refuse to talk about what matters in grownup land - how much does it cost.

      Personally, I think government should get out of the marriage promotion business altogether and just concern itself with guardianship laws and contract law. But hey, now both sides can target me for not caring.

      -Jeff

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    20. Re:Lack of ethics by XenoRyet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Honestly, I don't see how it damages the institution of marrage either. However, the fact that you and I, as well as many others, disagree with something that group feels is so fundamentaly important is the reason the issue gets so much attention.

      It's not the details of the issue itself that gives it such a high priority in the public eye, it's the fact that one or more sides feels that it is of vital importance.

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    21. Re:Lack of ethics by nuzak · · Score: 2, Informative

      > However, if you leave your personal philosophies out of the equation: what's to say that genocide is wrong, in absolute terms?

      Well hell, if you leave personal philosophies out, there's no such thing as "wrong" at all. And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle! You can argue from the lack of an absolute morality, but you certainly can't deny that personal moralities exist, and are in large part shared by societies. Most moralities are squishy enough to support inconsistencies, but any morality that not only allows, but actually supports glaring contradictions, needs to be reevaluated. Thus does gay marriage create a bigger knot than genocide across the world.

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    22. Re:Lack of ethics by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If your complaint is that they now get privileges from the government, there's an easy solution - neither hetero nor homo couples get any preferrential treatment over singles.

      But the whole point of what the Christians want is to be able to reward people they like (i.e. themselves) and punish people they do not like (i.e. fags). So, taking away their special privledges to put them on a level field does not accomplish this. Giving gays the right to marry does not accomplish this. What they want is the government to send checks to Christians and put the fags in jail. Because, you see, Christians are so "loving".

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    23. Re:Lack of ethics by A.Gideon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Honestly, I don't see how it damages the institution of marrage either. However, the fact that you and I, as well as many others, disagree with something that group feels is so fundamentaly important is the reason the issue gets so much attention.

      What if you don't "see how" because the statement is a lie? What if people aren't against gay marriage because it would "damage marriage"? What if people are against gay marriage for the same reason that people are against mixing of the races, women having the vote, or that other religion being permitted to meet in an other wise good, my religion town?

      Why were so many people against rights for blacks? Fear of competition? Hatred of anything different? Something else?

      Does it really matter why they're this way? The reality is, lots are that way. Does having a lot of bigots in our town/state/nation mean we should permit bigoted laws?

      This is why we've things like the Bill of Rights in this country. This is why we've something to fear in a tyranny of the majority.

      Those that would consider voting with their bigoted natures should realize the conceit in the assumption that they are safe because they're in the majority. Demographics evolve. Those promoting an intolerant society will only have themselves to blame when they're the next target of intolerance.

    24. Re:Lack of ethics by killjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree that the world is full of problems and that there are pressing and important things going on all over. Nevertheless the election of a US president is the single most important event in the world. That may sound a bit over the top but I really think it's true.

      The US has the biggest military and is willing to use it to pursue what it thinks is best for it. On top of that it is one of the largest economies in the world.

      What happens in the US effects the rest of the world. Imagine if Gore had won the presidency. Would the world be different? You bet. Maybe under a Gore presidency 9/11 would never have happened.

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    25. Re:Lack of ethics by Deagol · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It is also a fact that raising children is expensive and is a big financial burden on families that singles don't have and they can use some help.

      "It is also a fact that owning a Hummer is a big financial burden on people that those without Hummers don't have, and they can use some help."

      See how ridiculous that sounds? People have choice on whether or not to breed, as do they have a choice to own a Hummer. I don't feel pity for the financially strapped family in either camp.

      (posting from Utah, where 5+ kids is too damn common for my comfort)

    26. Re:Lack of ethics by kpang · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gays are not being "forced on you". If you agree that gays should be allowd to kiss, then you should be fine with them doing it wherever they please whether that be in the privacy of their own home, in public places, or on the big screen. Gays are not displayed in movies for the sole purpose of disgusting you, just like like fat people kissing each other or ugly people kissing each other in movies isn't done for the sole purpose of disgusting you. They're simply parts of everyday life. A racist person may find the idea of interracial relationships disgusting. That doesn't mean that those relationships should not be in movies, right? The same applies to homophobes and their view on gay relationships. Just because you don't happen to like watching it, doesn't mean that Hollywood should no longer be able to depict it. As for government aid: it's easy to complain about the government digging into your pockets when you're not a victim of circumstance. Just realize there are people out there who deserve a chance to succeed. It's not the cripple's fault he lost the use of his legs in a car accident. It's not the african american child's fault he was born into poverty and gang violence. There are always going to be people who abuse the system, but there are plenty more who should have an equal right to live healthy, productive lives.

    27. Re:Lack of ethics by DavidTC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's not just benefits.

      It's thinks like counting as 'family' for hospital visits, and medical decisions, and adopting children, and dividing property in case of a split, and all sorts of shit like that.

      Personally, I think human beings have the right to add (and, if they wish, remove) anyone they want to their family. They shouldn't even have to come up with a reason or it be any sort of 'named' relationship. If you and some random guy are stranded on a desert island for five years, and you get off, and trust each other implicitly, I don't see why you can't call each other 'family', and have that legally true. Or if you honestly wish to remove a parent from your life, I don't see why you can't and have them unable to make medical decisions for you. (Assuming you're an adult, that is. And, no, I'm not talking about emancipation.)

      Instead we have 'marriage', which carries all sort of baggage with it and people who are not planning on a sexual relationship don't even consider (Except that historical oddity, 'Boston Marriages'.), and which morons are fighting to keep people of the same gender from doing even when they are in a sexual relationship, and 'adoption', which only makes sense for a parent/child relationship.

      There's no way to get a 'blood brother' or anything and have them recogized under the law as actually being part of your family.

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    28. Re:Lack of ethics by rblum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And those are no problem if they're of the opposing sex?

    29. Re:Lack of ethics by rblum · · Score: 3, Informative

      Please do not confuse religious fascists with Christians. They might call themselves that, but they are not. There are plenty of decent Christians out there.

    30. Re:Lack of ethics by statusbar · · Score: 2, Interesting
      genocide in the Sudan is unlikely to affect the majority of the voter

      Neither does same-sex marriage...

      And if they say it does, because of an insanse fear of some violent God's retribution towards humanity, wouldn't that same violent God (from "Thou Shalt Not Kill" Fame) be more upset at genocide?

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  2. In two easy steps ... by SpooForBrains · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Make sure head of company that supplies voting machines is a vociferous supporter of your party
    2. There is no step two ...

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    1. Re:In two easy steps ... by lawpoop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's wrong to take away the voting rights of anybody. Just ask them to step down from any position that puts them in a conflict of interest.

      Here in Ohio in 2004, Ken Blackwell was the Secretary of State, who is in charge of running the elections. He was also the head of Bush/Cheney re-election campaign in Ohio. This is was a conflict of interest. He should have stepped down from one position or the other.

      Similarly, if an executive of a company that makes voting machines is giving speeches in support of a candidate, or writing in a fund-raising letter stating that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year,", that is a conflict of interest. Either work for the company, or work for a candidate/party. Go ahead and vote. But don't campaign or participate in fund-raising events. To do make voting machines and actively campaign for a candidate or party is a conflict of interest.

      The problem is that when a private company is making voting machines, there is no built-in parity of the system. With the old paper ballot system, representatives from *both* parties were physically present during the voting and the counting, to provide oversight. In the case of black-box machines controlled by a private corporation, they do not have to have representatives from both parties witness the development and implementation of the machines. This will lead to fraud and corruption.

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    2. Re:In two easy steps ... by lixee · · Score: 4, Informative
      1. Make sure head of company that supplies voting machines is a vociferous supporter of your party
      This actually happened a few months ago in Mexico; http://www.correntewire.com/mexico_calderons_broth er_in_law_wrote_the_vote_counting_software_and_its _already_been_hacked

      If you're not convinced the election has been stolen, check out this excerpt from an article by McNeills:
      Victor Romero is a Doctor of physics who specialises in statistics and randomness at the National University of Mexico. He studied the electoral commission computer results closely and he believes there is strong evidence of interference. Dr Romero explained to me a very unusual statistical pattern he noticed with the PRD vote as the tallies came into towards the end. "The PRD was winning and then suddenly at about 70% they start losing and never even gained .01 of a percentage," he explained. It seems incredible that as the last 30% of results came in, the PRD share of votes never increased. "It could be like this and then like that," Dr Romero explains, moving his hands up and down, "More of one party and less than another. But not in order. The order here is completely unexplainable."
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  3. German Petition against voting machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All germans, please sign this petition:

    http://itc.napier.ac.uk/e-Petition/bundestag/view_ petition.asp?PetitionID=294

    It currently has 13748 votes.

    Thanks!

    1. Re:German Petition against voting machines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, and i'm accountable for 13745 of them!!

    2. Re:German Petition against voting machines by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was the 16,385th voter.

      Now there are -1 votes for this petition.

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  4. Are you the RIAA? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you the RIAA, going on about "stealing" intangible concepts that cannot be stolen? You can't steal an election, any more than you can steal music.

        -- The Diebold P2P Network Team

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    1. Re:Are you the RIAA? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You should be +5 insightful.

      A lot of slashdotters who would argue both those ways without seeing a conflict.

      It's like the iraqi they had on NPR last night.

      A) He wants americans killed and he wants the shiite militia to do it.
      B) He wants the americans to stay and protect him from the suni's.

      he sees *NO* conflict in these two positions.

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  5. Vote from orbit by Quaoar · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's the only way to be sure...

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  6. CowboyNeal for President by jon787 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we use this to create a CowboyNeal option in the next election.

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  7. Litigation by Xehn · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, the Bush administration has filed a lawsuit against Arstechnica, stating that releasing this information is a "danger to national security". Meanwhile, GOP officials are scrambling to determine who 'leaked' their 2006 Election Strategy to the press.

  8. Why not? by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm not in any way encouraging anyone to actually go out and steal an election. This article is intended solely as a guide to the kinds of information and techniques that election thieves already have available, and not as an incitement to or an aid for committing crimes.
    Why not? I'd rather have a hacker with good intentions to steal or otherwise grossly manipulate an election (libertarian party coming out as first) and get the system fixed subsequently, than to have the republican/democrat party keep themselves in power and dismiss the people complaining about election fraud as conspiracy theorists.

    Since you cannot validate the correctness of the election either way, I'd opt for the path which fixes the situation.
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    1. Re:Why not? by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2

      Do it, but make it obvious - libertarian party (or Ben Stein, if you like) wins the election with 120% of the voters voting.

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  9. Explain the problem by nuggz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But people aren't listening because they don't understand the problem.
    Explaining how easy it is might help people understand this is a serious problem.
    Can you think of a better way to explain how easy it is? and how much of a problem it is?

  10. Been done already by MECC · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its already been done.

    From the referenced url: '"Electronic voting machines also caused widespread problems in Florida, where Bush bested Kerry by 381,000 votes. When statistical experts from the University of California examined the state's official tally, they discovered a disturbing pattern: "The data show with 99.0 percent certainty that a county's use of electronic voting is associated with a disproportionate increase in votes for President Bush. Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 and 2004."'

    'Charles Stewart III, an MIT professor who specializes in voter behavior and methodology, was initially skeptical of the study - but was unable to find any flaw in the results. "You can't break it - I've tried," he told The Washington Post. "There's something funky in the results from the electronic-machine Democratic counties."'

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    1. Re:Been done already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ever thought that maybe the Electronic Voting Machines might be immune to the type of election fraud that the Democrats have been caught doing over and over in the last century?

    2. Re:Been done already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Could it be that the richer counties that are more likely to vote Republican are the only ones that can afford electronic voting machines?

    3. Re:Been done already by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or that they're susceptible to the types of election fraud that the Republicans have been caught doing over and over?

      Trying to pretend one side or the other is lily-white is stupid, we should use a system that is immune to anything that either side might try.

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    4. Re:Been done already by MECC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Does anyone know if 'richer' counties are more likely to get electronic voting machines then 'poor' counties? In ohio, poor inner city areas had electronic voting machines (which didn't work, and lacked paper backups, sadly).

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    5. Re:Been done already by MECC · · Score: 2, Funny

      To be certain, politicians from all parties have tried to rig elections - republicans have just been the most successful to date. They're very well organized. Maybe the party that cheats best should win.

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      - E.M. Cioran
    6. Re:Been done already by pacalis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's tough to write here in Gitmo, but I';ll get this out quickly...
      1) The statistical evidence only shows abnormal variations in a certain districts. Individually this is not a problem, but accross districts, a consistent bias to republicans is demonstrated to be highly unlikely as arising by chance. This does not demonstrate that either side isn't cheating, just that it is unlikely to be 'chance' that the overwhelming majority of abnormal skews favor republicans.
      2)They did, they failed. They don't have the courts, eaither florida or federally. It didn't help that jackass Kerry ceeded on election night. Shit is hitting the fan all over the place http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold. Plus whistleblower protections have collapse under the republicans making it very difficult to challenge the institutions.
      3) The hard one. Why are democrats so useless? I have no idea. But, rememeber that incumbant dems have nothing to gain in a fight, and the challengers are zeros unless elected.

      The only real option, Kerry, showed a complete lack of leadership in his loss. I think after 20 years of BS we need a constituional admendment to ban all Yale alums from running for or holding higher office.

    7. Re:Been done already by MECC · · Score: 2, Informative

      The e-voting machines were predominantly placed in heavily democrat-leaning districts, by DEMOCRAT elections supervisors.

      Actually, if you read the accounts of the Ohio election, republicans placed the majority of the e-voting machines, led by the republican secretary Blackwell who pushed hard to get Diebold machines put in voting places. That in combination to the fact republicans where the ones making the decisions to place e-voting machinge in Ohio make the 'purchased by democrats to strengthen rigging claims' tenuous there. But, even if Democrats did make the decision to use e-voting machines, linking that to a hidden agenda of wanting to blame the machines is logically an ad-hoc theory, albeit an interesting one.

      However, I don't think the earlier quoted correlation studies were done in Ohio voting districts. Given the various illegal stunts pulled by Blackwell, Noe, and other republicans in addition to the placement of e-voting machines would doubtless cloud any correlation between e-voting machines and bush-leaning districts, so any kind of e-rigging claims in Ohio can't likely be substantiated.

      Correlating manufacturer/party contributions with extent of likelihood of that manufacturer's machine to lean in a party's favor would really be interesting.

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      "We are all geniuses when we dream"
      - E.M. Cioran
  11. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How to steal an election in seven easy steps:

    1) Put the word Linux on your website.
    2) Add copious amounts of Microsoft bashing.
    3) Add Socialist blurbs to the website.
    4) Call the current astate of affairs evil.
    5) Advocating lowering the voting age to 10.
    6) Ask KDawson to post a link to your website.
    7) Have everyone on slashdot believe you are the |37357 |]()()|] @®0|\||}

    Well, it may not work, but most kids here think it will.

  12. Know Where To Look by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Informative

    Folks, if there's gonna be wholesale election fraud, a smart fraudster is going to do it where nobody is looking. Don't expect it to take place in the precincts that make the news for irregularities.

    Expect it to take place in places where Candidate X carries 70-75% of the vote.

    That is, expect it to take place in places where Candidate X carries 75-80% of the vote.

    If you don't want anyone to notice you're doing it, do it where nobody will notice; if the election is close enough (which so many of them are,) your candidate will carry the day.

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    1. Re:Know Where To Look by OakDragon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Here's the way to know if the election is hacked:

      Republicans do well - wholesale voter fraud, machines were manipulated, etc.

      Democrats do well - most open and transparent election in years; the people have spoken.

      I look forward to reading the post-election commentary, no matter who does well.

    2. Re:Know Where To Look by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 3, Informative
      ``Expect it to take place in places where Candidate X carries 70-75% of the vote.

      That is, expect it to take place in places where Candidate X carries 75-80% of the vote.''

      Why change these results if your candidate already won anyway?

      Why? To win a state and the state's electoral votes (in a presidential race).

      In the US, the president is elected by the Electoral College. Each state sends a certain number of "Electors" to the Electoral College to cast their vote's for that state's winning candidate. So on a state-by-state basis, it's a winner-take-all system. So you want to change outcomes in counties in order to win a whole state. Here's a way to cheat with the above system (minimizing chances of getting caught):

      1. Pick a populous state with a close election like Ohio or Florida or several others.

      2. Adjust the vote for your candidate up by 5 or 10% in counties where you expect him to win. This increases the overall statewide vote for your candidate. Enough, you hope, to push your candidate over the top.

      3. Your candidate wins the state, gets those electors, and wins the Electoral College vote.

      4. Profit.

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    3. Re:Know Where To Look by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It goes beyond that. For any elected office beyond the scope of "local", you're going to have party strongholds dotted about the landscape: rich suburbs, rural areas, inner cities, college towns and the like. Each voting district is going to have its own demographic makeup, and a candidate will almost always have at least a few "core" precincts where he knows he has a solid lead and will soundly beat his opponent. Any campaign manager worth his salt will have a very good idea of where these strongholds are.

      Now, let's say that the House Race for the fifth district in the state of Ficticia is down to the wire. Candidate Smith has a strong showing in the densely populated Ficticia City, where he's beating Candidate Doe by a two-to-one margin. On the other hand, Candidate Doe has a solid lead in Uniform Heights, Graded Meadow, Irongate Estates, Culvertdale, and the other suburbs and exurbs of Ficticia City. Between the two areas, the candidates are locked in a dead heat, and accusations of voter intimidation have been flying thick.

      Let's assume that of these two candidates actually is planning to engage in wholesale vote fraud. Should he do it in all districts, in a district he's sure to carry, a district that's split about 50/50, or a district where his opponent is likely to win?

      If he throws the vote in a district where the two candidates are neck and neck or where his opponent is likely to win, his opponent's supporters will be more likely to notice tabulation discrepancies. A closer-than-projected result in a district that was supposed to be a "lock" for his opponent--or a wider victory in a contested area--will not go unnoticed, because most people expect voter fraud to occur in places where the person committing the fraud is the underdog. Because the point of voter fraud is to "win", most people assume that a potential fraudster would try to rig the "obvious" areas: the areas where the fraudster is vulnerable or likely to lose.

      If, however, the fraudster's "core" areas report a stronger than expected performance, people are much more inclined to assume that it was the last minute get-out-the-vote operation, or strong appeals to the base, or whatever. People simply don't expect others to cheat where they've already "won".

      In the end, it doesn't matter which candidate "won" which precincts; what matters is the total across all precincts. If a candidate inflates his performance in his own backyard, his opponent is less likely to notice that it happened...

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  13. Motivation by Original+Replica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    (libertarian party coming out as first) and get the system fixed subsequently"
    If you really want election reform you have to make it in the best interest of the the Dem/Rep party. The best way to do that would be to have a third party victory. As long as someone in the Professional Politicians Club get's elected, the powers that be don't care about voting accuracy. They have no reason to.

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  14. Re:Premium access ? by HWguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, you are missing something. The entire article is available. You just have to click through it page by page. The PDF is a convenience for subscribers. You can make your own PDF with just a little work if that's what you need.

  15. Re:But what about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Security through obscurity doesn't work for long. I'd feel pretty safe at guessing that by now more than a handful of people with the capability have also figured out what to do and probably some who even had intentions at the next election. The bad guys have the tools already, even if it's only one than that's enough, your argument protects and shields only that bad guy and ensures that he gets full cooperation of the voting machine when it comes round to the election.
     
    The lack of ethics problem going on is with the people responsible for not fixing the issue when first alerted. And to put a tinfoil cap on I myself why would people on purpose install and setup machines with a known configuration that enabled a fixed election even after being notified of the issue, it's beyond a simple little hole like IE problems or something. somebody has gone out of their way to ensure that the election can be fixed, that is who you are currently putting your trust in, i myself would advise against that.

  16. Here's hoping by dlc3007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The best thing that can possibly happen for this country and secure elections would be for Buggs Bunny to win 100% of the vote in at least one, preferably multiple districts. Until people see these results come in on election night, they'll never believe that it can really happen.

  17. In other news by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hotels across the United States reported an alarming shortage of hotel bar keys.

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    What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?
  18. Access? by mogrify · · Score: 2, Informative

    In an article that exposes flaw after flaw in the electronic voting system, the one thing that really made my jaw drop is that the master vote tabulation is stored in an Access database. To my mind, Access is crippleware designed for quick-n-dirty solutions on small data sets for people that don't know any better. Putting it into a production application is madness. Madness!

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  19. The presumption is that voting matters by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The incorrect presumption here is that voting matters. Does it really matter if you vote for a Demopublican or a Republicrat? Either way they're going to pick your pocket and line their own. No matter who you vote for, the government always gets elected. Funny how that works.

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    1. Re:The presumption is that voting matters by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You know, cynicism is addictive, but it's not attractive. You can't think of a single thing that would be different about this country if Al Gore had won the 2000 election?

      Would we be at war in Iraq? No.

      Would we be running up record deficits? Probably not.

      Would we have slashed public services to provide tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans? Hardly.

      Would we be torturing people in secret prisons?

      Would September 11th have been pumped up into justification for a global war against 'Islamofascism?'

      Yes, both sides are pretty deep in the pockets of corporations. Both sides are often self-serving at the expense of both their stated ideals and the good of the country. Neither side is offering up solutions that really satisfy me. But to say there is "no difference" is just whiny, and promotes the sort of apathy that corrupt systems thrive on.

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  20. Re:But what about by johneee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hannibal is brilliant by all accounts (especially his own...) and one of the few people who understands technology and communication well enough to be able to put esoteric subjects into terms understandable to an intelligent lay person, but he's not anything close to the only person to be able to figure this kind of thing out - especially since he probably didn't spend a whole lot of time on this article compared to the amount of time someone who wanted to actually steal an election would.

    If Hannibal can do this then someone who wanted to steal an election, and could spend a trivial amount of money on doing it could absolutely do the same. It is utterly absurd to think that the analysis he did in the course of researching and writing a single article couldn't be done (and probably was done a long time ago) by any one of hundreds of other organizations if they had a small team working on it for months or years.

    The result? The only people for who this is news are the people who don't have a vested interest in stealing an election - and those are the people who need to know about it. Bravo to my favourite tech site for doing this.

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  21. Well by The+Creator · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's better that many bad guys know of a "hack" that doesn't work anymore, than that a few know of one that still does.

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    FRA: STFU GTFO
  22. It's like a tamper seal. You want it to break. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In this case, having one bad guy with the directions really isn't any better than 10 bad guys with it.

    In fact, the more bad guys that have it, the more likely the problem will get fixed, thus it's actually better that the most 'bad guys' possible get it. If only one person knows how to rig the election, chances are higher they'll be able to get away with it. If 100 people know and all try to rig the election, chances are none of them will get away with it, because the tampering will be too obvious.

    Frankly I think the best thing to happen would be for someone to utterly steal the next election; make "Mickey Mouse" or "Elvis" get 100 seats in Congress or something. The cost of having to repeat a single election is certainly much smaller than continuing for decades with a flawed process, where nobody can tell whether the vote is being rigged or not.

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    1. Re:It's like a tamper seal. You want it to break. by nizo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What really bothers me is that many votes will probably get tossed, including valid votes, which is absurd. Apparently we have no threshold for calling an entire election invalid and redoing it, which is pathetic.

  23. I've never told anyone before, but... by golgotha007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ventura, California, Buena High School, 1988 Class President election:

    It was the first year of electronic voting, done on a room full of Apple IIe's.

    Some kind of voting program was running. I simply made a break in the program, figured it which variables belong to which candidate and bumped the variable count up for my favorite. After that, i simply continued the program and then logged my official vote.

    My favorite was Todd Turner. I hear he won by a landslide. No one contested the results. Lucky Todd.

    And Todd, if you happen to read this, don't get mad at me, ok? I mean, you probably would have won anyway, right?

  24. too complicated by truesaer · · Score: 5, Insightful
    That article was way too complicated for the "non-technical public." It was great for tech savvy people, but if he wants to convince the average joe he needs to simplify. We don't need to see 10 different ways the machines can be hacked, just ONE way that is simple, understandable, and presented clearly to the user. Preferably on 1, maybe 2 pages max (before they lose interest).


    Ideally, for the layperson you would simply explain that each pricinct's votes are stored in a small database, and that it can simply be edited with a piece of software commonly included in Microsoft's popular Office suite. Then, show a screenshot of access with the GEMS database opened, highlight the vote tally for some candidate, and explain that you simply click in the box and change the number. Then explain how it would be impossible to know what the vote count could be due to the lack of paper...relate it back to punched ballots (just save the ballots and recount em if necessary), optical scanners (again you have the ballots and usually there is a paper log that prints each vote as it is scanned), etc.


    All of that is understandable to even the layperson. Most people understand what Microsoft Office is. Most people have heard of a database and understand thats how businesses store all their information. Most people have seen a spreadsheet and a screenshot of someone editing an access database looks almost the same.

  25. Email this story to your representative by nuzak · · Score: 5, Informative
    Go IMMEDIATELY to http://www.house.gov/writerep/ and send them an email/contact form entitled "How to Steal an Election", with the URL http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/evoting.ar s in the body. Vary the title if you prefer (I'm open to suggestions), and please do add something in your own words about how much the unaccountability and lack of transparency concerns you.

    Repeat this process for http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/ senators_cfm.cfm (the Senate's small enough that they just list them all on one page)

    After about a thousand folks do this, a staffer might actually go print out the story and hand it to their congresscritter in a brief.

    I'd also like to ask the Ars Technica people to make an exception for this story and make the PDF available to non-subscribers, as it would really help to disseminate this story to the right people. I'm not really sure how to go about contacting them.

    Here's my letter (slightly munged of course by slashdot):

    I recently came across "How to Steal an Election" at http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/evoting.ar s which lays out in rather devastating detail how flawed the current system of electronic voting is. I am concerned that our election process has effectively been privatized by a small number of companies, some of which are overtly partisan in their politics, and none held accountable for the numerous and easily-exploitable security flaws in their equipment. One of the equipment companies in particular has taken to smear campaigns and litigation against its critics in an attempt to silence them.

    I understand that voting should and must be accessible to the disabled, but this can be done without compromising the security and integrity of our elections. Slot machines in Nevada are subjected to extremely rigorous design standards for security, while voting machines have no such standards at all. This situation cannot go on -- I urge you to secure our elections with appropriate legislation.

    [signature stuff removed]


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  26. What should be done. by nrlightfoot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The quickest way to get the system changed is to create a scandal by actually stealing an election. I would suggest making a Libertarian, Green, or other 3rd party win the govenor's race. That should make it pretty obvious. Then the person who hacked the election should send letters detailing what they did to a major newspaper and the state election board. I would also suggest backing up the real results so that no real harm is done. That should get us secure voting machines by the 2008 presidential elections.

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    1. Re:What should be done. by Teancum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have long argued that what really needs to be done is not just making a major 3rd party like the Libertarians or Greens to win, but get some very very obscure party that is plainly obvious that nobody really supported the candidate, and make it a near landslide victory for that party.

      I've nominated a few suggestions like the Cthulhu Party or the National Fisherman's Party, but either would do the job very well.

      To be honest, if you wanted to avoid spending too much time in jail, I would suggest the student body president of some major university instead as an election to hack instead of U.S. Congressional races or the Presidential election, as you can avoid violating federal election laws in that manner. It could still have the same impact in terms of letting people know what can happen, but the results wouldn't be so disasterous in terms of getting a major investigation and court proceedings to catch the would-be hackers. And publicize the hack in all of its gory detail.

      Last time I made a suggestion I discovered that some university student body elections were indeed hacked like this, but it didn't use the current set of machines by Dibold that have been suggested so far.

    2. Re:What should be done. by Frostalicious · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would also suggest backing up the real results so that no real harm is done. That should get us secure voting machines by the 2008 presidential elections.

      I think you are going to need to cause actual harm for real change to be implemented. If the real results are backed up, then they will be restored, "proving the reliability of Diebold equipment". You need to leave someone with Wierd Al as governor and no recourse to repair the damage.

    3. Re:What should be done. by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The quickest way to get the system changed is to create a scandal by actually stealing an election. I would suggest making a Libertarian, Green, or other 3rd party win the govenor's race. That should make it pretty obvious.

      Statistical analysis has already demonstrated fraud in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. There is no doubt whatsoever that significant voting irregularities took place, and that they had the effect of giving the election to Bush rather than his opponent in both cases. There were also, it is worth noting, some anomalies that favoured Democrats, although not by so wide a margin (perhaps they were just playing their cards more closely, or didn't need as big shifts to win in those races.)

      I sincerely hope that some American hero stands up and hacks the upcoming elections in a big way. They will get jailed for some kind of crime, but someone has to stand up and fight, and not say, "Oh, but my career would suffer if I was willing to sacrifice myself for the good of my country." But I have no illusions that such a successful hack would have any immediate effect. It will take many hacks over many elections to convince the idiots who think that election fraud is simply a stick to beat Republicans with, or who dismiss all evidence of fraud as impossible because "they" would never allow such a thing.

      We know Diebold machines can be hacked very easily. We know that they have been hacked in past elections, based on analysis of exit poll anomalies. We know that there is a great deal at stake in the American elections in the next two years.

      If America deserves to survive, there will be at least one person somewhere who is even now implementing a plan that will result in 100% of the votes cast in their county going to third-party candidates. In practical terms it must be third-party, because otherwise the vast majority of voters who cast their ballot for the favoured candidate would simply shrug, spit, and say, "I don't see no problem with that." Nothing short of a third-party landslide victory will put a dent in the partisan complacency of mainstream voters, and even then the lying bastards in power will claim that this was a special-case problem that they know for sure didn't affect any other races. And the complacent sheeple will believe them.

      If no one is willing to take the risk of throwing egregiously throwing the vote in their county then America does not deserve to survive as a functioning democratic republic, and it will not.

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  27. Yes. by thorholiday · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The premium PDF is an identical copy of the actual article. You aren't missing anything.

  28. Ethics? We don't need no stinking ETHICS! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's my prediction. The control of the House of Representatives in the coming election (which is after all, the most important thing, considering it would give Bush's opponents subpoena power to investigate all the sleazy crap he's pulled), will come down to one extremely close race. This close race will be decided, after a recount, and the Republican candidate will win by less than .01% of the votes.

    It will be a virtual repeat of the 2002 and 2004 elections. You see, all this nail-biting, down to the wire, razor-thin margin bullshit gives the idiots who watch TV the feeling that, well "it MUST be legit because it was so darn close" and "if there was anything crooked going on, they'd win decisively".

    Wednesday, the 8th of November, we will hear how the "values voters" pulled together at the last minute and despite the fact that all the exit polls showed the Dems winning by a huge margin, the Republicans yet again pulled a miracle out of the hat and retained power. Rush Limbaugh will explain that all the prayers of the good Christian Conservatives is what turned the tide.

    Because of the clear crookedness of our electoral system (and did you notice that the regions that the Republicans pulled their upsets in during the last elections were the ones that had Diebold machines?), it is probably too late to expect elections, op-ed columns or clever blogs to make a damn bit of difference.

    No, I'm afraid it's going to take people, lots of people, in the streets, being decidedly ill-behaved if we're going to keep this nation anything like the beautiful experiment that the Founding Fathers produced. If the principles of the Enlightenment are going to survive, we're going to have to act the way the heroes who created this country acted: badly. Civil disobedience and mass demonstrations, general strikes and boycotts. There's going to be some fighting before this power-grab by the Authoritarian Right who have masked themselves as "Conservatives" will end.

    Despite my general laziness and particular enjoyment of online games like Eve-Online, I am prepared to fight, and if necessary, die, for my country. Even if it means that it will be other Americans that I will have to fight to protect the United States of America.

    It's going to take a tamper-proof margin of victory in 11 days if this sleazy little tin-pot dictator in the White House and the crooked pricks who are pulling his strings are going to be stopped. It's the only chance we have to put a little oversight on these bad actors.

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    1. Re:Ethics? We don't need no stinking ETHICS! by AEton · · Score: 2, Funny

      Despite my general laziness and particular enjoyment of online games like Eve-Online, I am prepared to fight, and if necessary, die, for my country. Even if it means that it will be other Americans that I will have to fight to protect the United States of America.

      With respect, your paranoid delusions and violent fantasies won't do much to change the political climate. Just vote, please.

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    2. Re:Ethics? We don't need no stinking ETHICS! by jkauzlar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Voting Irregularities in Ohio which used ES&S and Diebold machines. see pp. 28 & 29[pdf]. The first link is irrelevant as proof, but interesting. The second link contains all of the exit poll discrepencies for each state. It was a report done by the exit polling company to investigate the discrepencies. I can't find any lists of where Diebold or ES&S machines are used, but you'll see in which states the largest discrepencies were found. It's a very interesting study, although they don't point fingers, only describe where the discrepencies may have come from.

    3. Re:Ethics? We don't need no stinking ETHICS! by doom · · Score: 3, Interesting
      networkBoy (774728) wrote:
      and did you notice that the regions that the Republicans pulled their upsets in during the last elections were the ones that had Diebold machines?),
      Proof please. Also, how many upsets did not have diabold machines. Finally any dem upsets, mapped the same way. Do that and if it looks like proof I'll believe you.
      Try reading the Freeman and Bleifuss book: Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen?.

      It's actually really striking: there was a pattern of "surprising" results that correlates with the use of electronic voting machines; with the presence of Republican governors, and so on. Where-ever Bush really needed it, he got an upset.

      (Note: Ohio appears to have been stolen also, but with more conventional tactics engineered by a Republican Secretary of State with a lot of balls and no shame.)

  29. He's crafty, that Stallman. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, you know the old rule: "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"...

    Stallman wouldn't want to execute Raymond too early; it would just precipitate a civil war. You know, BSDers blowing themselves up in LUG meetings, contamination of the Cheetos supply, and caffeinated-beverage shortages. You know, basically all the worst parts of the Bible.

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  30. Re:Liberal Vote Counting Procedure by thrillseeker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I remember election night in 2000, I was watching CBS I believe. They called Florida for Gore.

    The influence of the provably biased media on elections as they are occurring should be a shameful thing to us and disallowed. I know people who were standing in (a long) line in Florida and heard it'd been called for Gore and so didn't bother to vote (for either candidate) after that - talk about sanctioned disenfranchising.

  31. Someone else will dumb it down by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's what blogs are for.

    It needs to have enough supporting evidence that someone can blog it as fact. When blogged, it will inevitably get taken out of context and dumbed down to the level that the average Joe will understand, with the substance behind TFA's link.

    Give this a few days to make it around the Internet. I can see this becoming a big stink.

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  32. Security Through Obscurity by Spaceman40 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A commercial, and in some respects a social doubt has been started within the last year or two, whether or not it is right to discuss so openly the security or insecurity of locks. Many well-meaning persons suppose that the discussion respecting the means for baffling the supposed safety of locks offers a premium for dishonesty, by showing others how to be dishonest. This is a fallacy. Rogues are very keen in their profession, and know already much more than we can teach them respecting their several kinds of roguery.

    Rogues knew a good deal about lock-picking long before locksmiths discussed it among themselves, as they have lately done. If a lock, let it have been made in whatever country, or by whatever maker, is not so inviolable as it has hitherto been deemed to be, surely it is to the interest of honest persons to know this fact, because the dishonest are tolerably certain to apply the knowledge practically; and the spread of the knowledge is necessary to give fair play to those who might suffer by ignorance.

    It cannot be too earnestly urged that an acquaintance with real facts will, in the end, be better for all parties. Some time ago, when the reading public was alarmed at being told how London milk is adulterated, timid persons deprecated the exposure, on the plea that it would give instructions in the art of adulterating milk; a vain fear, milkmen knew all about it before, whether they practiced it or not; and the exposure only taught purchasers the necessity of a little scrutiny and caution, leaving them to obey this necessity or not, as they pleased.

            -- From A.C Hobbs (Charles Tomlinson, ed.), Locks and Safes: The Construction of Locks. Published by Virtue & Co., London, 1853 (revised 1868).

    (c/o Matt Blaze)
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  33. Self-Verified Voting by spoonboy42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree with the general consensus among slashdoters that voting machine schematics and source code must be open to the public for inspection. I also think that we can improve election security, while still retaining an anonymous ballot, by allowing voters to check to make sure that their own vote was properly counted. Here's my plan:

    To begin with, the regular voter verification process happens at the door. You go into the polling booth, select all your options, and a confirmation screen comes up for you to check and make sure you selected everything properly. When you confirm, a small piece of paper is printed out that has a serial number and a dynamically generated decryption key on it. Your vote is then sent along to a tabulation server. Your unencrypted vote is added up with the other votes, and the pair of your serial number and your encrypted vote is stored at the same time.

    Later in the day, you can go home, and log onto a special government website. You enter your serial number, along with your decryption key, and the verification server shows your vote back to you. The only identifier attached to each vote is a serial number, and it requires the proper decryption key to view the vote. Nevertheless, it allows individual voters to check to make sure that their vote was counted. As long as source-code can be publicly inspected, we can verify that counting is not being "faked" by saving an individual user's vote for verification purposes but not actually adding it to the overall tabulation, thus preventing fraud by under-voting.

    To prevent fraud by over-voting, the tabulation server will keep track of the total number of votes it receives from each machine. Local election officials will keep a hand-tally of the number of voters who visit each poll. At the end of the day, the hand tally is checked against the server's tally to make sure there is no discrepancy.

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    1. Re:Self-Verified Voting by spitzak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem is that any kind of verification like that allows vote buying. I think this is less of a worry for actually throwing an election nowadays, but it can lead to threats and violence and should not be allowed.

      There are crypto schemes that would allow you to verify that your vote was counted correctly without being able to show how you voted, but they are far too complex for an average voter to understand.

    2. Re:Self-Verified Voting by RosenSama · · Score: 2, Informative

      Schneier recently wrote up such a proposal using only paper ballots coby Rivest of RSA fame.

  34. Re:That Makes Absolutely No Sense by Beltway+Prophet · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a SECRET vote. That means nobody has the right to know how you voted. INCLUDING the mobsters and union bosses you are so sure are stealing the election. That's why you should never expect a receipt with the vote you cast on it (though you should, IMHO, be shown evidence that your vote has been recorded correctly before you leave the polling place, such as a paper tape with a print out of your vote on it rolling past a window on its way to a lockbox, where it should later be tallied and compared with the computer record to ensure that they are consistent).

  35. Re:How quaint. by kalirion · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yup, and anyone using this to aid the GOP will be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

  36. You can buy them from Diebold by caffeine_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unbelieveably, Diebold actually has an ecommerce site where you can buy all their electronic voting machine products online, including memory cards, security tape, and access keys. I'm really hoping they verify that you're an elections official before they actually ship the stuff to you:

    http://www.diebold.com/nasadmk/cgi-bin/desi_cata log.pl?section=9

    Here you go - buy a dozen keys, for you and your friends:

    http://www.diebold.com/nasadmk/cgi-bin/desi_cata log.pl?section=9&id=163

    On a funny/sad note, the front page of their election products site as a glaring coding error (%=rs("newsdate")%):

    http://www.diebold.com/dieboldes/

  37. Republicans vs. Iranian intelligence by benhocking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, there's an argument to be made that whether it was the Republicans or Iranian intelligence, the result would still be the Republicans in power. After all, the current administration has been a boon to recruitment. According to our own intelligence estimates, more terrorists are being recruited than are being killed. It does seem that Osama shows up on TV at just the right time to help the Republicans get elected. So, either he's totally clueless about how we react (admittedly, a possibility), or he *wants* Republicans in power (also a real possibility for the reasons just mentioned).

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  38. You skirted the main issue! by crhylove · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is that we don't have an independent media anymore. Rupert Murdoch is as likely to be a whistle blower as Karl Rove is.

    Unless we have a real free press, with real media outlets (read: TV, radio, internet, magazine, newspaper, etc.), then we don't have a democracy.

    Personally, after watching 911mysteries and other films on related topics, and reviewing the scientific facts for myself, I'm convinced that we already live in 1984, and the only solution is the bloody ugly one that Thomas Jefferson and most of our other founding fathers completely supported.

    You did mention the "liberal" media, so you touched on it, but really, when 3 channels are quoting each other with created facts by obvious pundits who are clearly party members.....

    You don't have freedom of the press anymore, and it's game over for democracy.

    It's been that way since Kennedy got whacked, and on a related issue, that was also our last real election.

    rhY

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    1. Re:You skirted the main issue! by thrillseeker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You don't have freedom of the press anymore, and it's game over for democracy. It's been that way since Kennedy got whacked, and on a related issue, that was also our last real election : Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley became a nationally known figure during the presidential election of 1960 when he "delivered" Illinois for John F. Kennedy. Charges of vote fraud in Illinois and Texas led to vote recounts in several states as well as to the appointment of at least one special state prosecutor in Illinois. On April 13, 1961, after an investigation that lasted several months, Special Illinois State Prosecutor Morris J. Wexler returned election-related indictments against ... 677 people indicted by Wexler were later acquitted by Acting Judge John M. Karns. Some were acquitted because the judge found that the state had been "unable to make a case." Others were acquitted after the judge ruled that the prosecution had obtained evidence "by unfair and fundamentally illegal means" (Wexler had admitted he had issued grand jury subpoenas to approximately 200 people he later had questioned in the Criminal Courts building instead of the Grand Jury room. Karns called this a "very serious" case of prosecutorial misconduct, one that bordered on "contempt of the Criminal Court of Cook County.")

  39. Re:a better solution by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Heck, I don't see why Scantron-type #2 pencil bubbles wouldn't be better than chads.
    Actually that is what Los Angeles county uses for Absentee Ballots. The problem is I have no way of verifying if my marks counted for the candidates I wanted. A better system would be just to submit Absentee Ballots via a SSL secured website (Damn if we can trust it to do banking on we can use it to vote) and then I could print off two copies of my vote confirmation. One copy goes in the mail to the election board in case a recount is needed. One copy I keep so I have a record of my vote. Anybody see any problems with this system?
  40. Easier Way by clambake · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here is the simplest way:

    Hi, I am running for president. If I win, I promise to do one single thing. I will create and sign an executive order to split the gold in fort knox equally among the workers, friends and families of those those work at the companies that make the voting machines. Included in the order will be a clause that gives them complete immunity from ALL prosecution for any crimes they ever commit, and also they get first in line for heart/liver transplants, etc.

  41. Re:OTHUMOR by Shadarr · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's not obscurity, that's security through irrelevance.

  42. Re:But what about by Hannibal_Ars · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ok, cracks about my (in)famous lack of humility aside, you have a great point. This article took me a week from concept to execution, and over half that time was spent making the diagrams. Ultimately, I did a little over two days of basic technical research for this (including email correspondence with security experts in this area). I am not an infosec expert and I don't pretend to be--I'm just good at digesting tech info and turning it into a form that a non-specialist audience can grasp.

    There are many Slashdot readers who could get up to speed on how to really steal an election in about half a day (or less) using publicly available documentation. The hardware isn't that complex at all, and the vulnerabilities in Windows (for the GEMS server) and WinCE (for the machine) are very well-known.

    What I've described here is very, very low-hanging fruit for anyone with real security expertise.

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  43. Let's be bold: internet democracy by emmanuel.charpentier · · Score: 2, Informative

    Using the internet and its almost unlimited capacity to copy data around, I'm designing a system that aims to be simple and trustable.

    It's easy yet disturbing. We can obtain a secure system if we remove anonymity. Then it's almost simple, distribute around the vote database and allow anybody to check the results.

    In that kind of context, verification is mostly a technicality and could rely on consensus.

    To regain some bit of anonymity, there can be a system of reinscription on the electoral list using a pseudo. Simple too, and while the person/pseudo relationship is private, everything else remains public and verifiable.

    There are three basic stones in such a system:
    * P2P servers
    * electoral list
    * PGP signatures

    Simple, basic, strong.

    I'm trying to construct such a system using Ruby on Rails, here is my project: http://leparlement.org/

    You can also come discuss security here: http://leparlement.org/security

    It's a moderated forum *and* a mailing list. Please, come and test it!

  44. Re:OTHUMOR by rthille · · Score: 2, Informative

    There were lots before OS-X, Not sure how easy it is to find info about them, since they were pre-internet, but they exist, passed mostly by floppies.

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  45. More likely... by benhocking · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More likely, if Gore had won, Saddam would still be in control of Iraq, but we'd have captured Osama. There wouldn't have been a "War on Terror", but rather a "War on the Taliban/al Qaeda". Perhaps I'm giving Gore too much credit, but this much I'm sure of: it wouldn't be any worse than it is now.

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  46. liberal media by falconwolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You did mention the "liberal" media, so you touched on it, but really, when 3 channels are quoting each other with created facts by obvious pundits who are clearly party members.....

    When I hear or read of the liberal media I ask what liberal media. But nobody bothers to reply. ABC? Disney owns ABC. CBS? It used to be owned by Viacom but after the split it's owned by CBS Corporation. And National Amusements is the majority owner of CBS Corp. NBC? NBC is owned by GE. Fox is owned by Murdock's News Corp. Are Disney, National Amusements, News Corp, and GE liberal? Well there's PBS but as it's government it's controlled by government wich is currently run by Bush. There are others but these are the major media organizations that broadcast over the airwaves.

    Falcon
  47. terrorists rigging elections for libertarian wins by falconwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, what do you think it would do to American politics and the respectability of the American president if the terrorists could cause the election to go to a Libertarian? First off, it would show the election to be a sham, secondly, if we honored the results, the Libertarian would probably leave them the hell alone, stop supporting the despots we love to hate, etc

    Hey any terrorists who rig an election so libertarians win need to be supported.

    Falcon
  48. Re:children, retirement, and population by falconwolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    " China and India, the two most populus countries in the world, had high population growth, but now that their economy has dramatically improved their birth rates are dropping."

    Do you actually have a reference to support this or did you pluck it out of your....

    Amoung others Foreign Policy magazine had an article on this. Unfortunately as their online archives is subscription based and I don't have a subscription I can't provide a link. I have to admit though you pointed out something I left out about China, that China has a one child one couple policy. And while rural areas don't directly feel the economic boom in China more and more people are moving from the countryside to cities. Wish I could find one article from "Foreign Policy" but they had an article on one of the fastest growing cities in central China that said thousands of Chinese are moving to every day. This releases some of the economic pressure on rural areas. As for India, farmers are experiencing hardships with many committing suicide. They don't have open access to the industrial nations such as the US and EU, and the US and EU can import into India agricultural products relatively cheaply. That's a big reason the WTO meetings failed in Europe this summer. Because the EU wouldn't talk about opening their markets to imports and the massive subsidies the EU gives to farmers the Indian representative walked out.

    If China and India weren't benefitting from an economic boom then neither would be able to finance the US national debt, and China and India are the biggest buyers of US Treasury bonds and notes respectively.

    Falcon