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Nintendo Goes Looking for the Grey Gamer

The New York Times reports on Nintendo's visit with the AARP. The Association for the Advancement of Retired Persons held a products show this past weekend, and Nintendo showed up in force to demonstrate the 'new generation' of gaming products they're offering. From the article: "Over the weekend, the company proved that it believed its own press releases. For the first time, it took its products to Life@50+, an annual event sponsored by AARP, and held this year in Anaheim, Calif. The event, intended for those over 50, attracted more than 20,000 people and featured a wide range of panel discussions, celebrities and exhibitors showcasing products for older Americans. 'Nintendo has never gone after grandparents before,' said Amber McCollom, a senior manager of public relations for Nintendo. 'We're targeting this audience for themselves, not just their grandchildren.'"

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  1. Turkeys, Wiis, and Grandmothers by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

    How do you keep a turkey in suspense? Don't interview any of the attendees to find out what they thought of Nintendo's booth! (GRRR!)

    Unfortunately, all of the articles on Google News are just Newswire reprints of the link in the summary. I had to do some serious digging to find a story that had a bit more substance. This link gives a few reactions, photos of the event, and a video of an older fellow playing the Wii. He seems to have an uncertain, yet fascinated look on his face as he picks up a spare in Wii Sports Bowling. Very interesting stuff!

    1. Re:Turkeys, Wiis, and Grandmothers by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the links, AKAImBatman!

      Yeah, I know a couple of old ladies that learned to play Nintendo with their grandkids... One of them (a friend's mom) was better at Tetris than any other person I've known, and she plays Mario Kart and Mario Party with her friends (all of them over 60)...

      If Wii Sports is as intuitive and easy to play as it looks, I'm sure it will appeal to many non-gamers...

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    2. Re:Turkeys, Wiis, and Grandmothers by tepples · · Score: 1
      One of them (a friend's mom) was better at Tetris than any other person I've known

      But was she this good?

    3. Re:Turkeys, Wiis, and Grandmothers by MeanderingMind · · Score: 1

      If Nintendo can get enough retail space to have cool demos like that, they'll be in greater demand than PS3s.

      Although, given my experience with Gamestop size I doubt anyone but BestBuy or Toys R Us could maange it.

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  2. Eagerly awaiting... by grogdamighty · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm waiting for the new FPS that allows you to shoot at kids who come on your grass.

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    1. Re:Eagerly awaiting... by cowscows · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think gunning down people is a bit violent for the older crowd. The Wii remote, however, is perfect for shaking your fist at those unruly teenagers.

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    2. Re:Eagerly awaiting... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Today's senior citizens are more sophisticated than they were in the past. They would spray unruly teenagers with the water cannon on top of the personnel carrier, shoot rubber bullets and tear gas, call in the national guard, and call the TV stations to complain that the government isn't doing anything about these damn kids.

    3. Re:Eagerly awaiting... by Megane · · Score: 1

      They're going to make a special version of Crazy Taxi where you get points for smashing up farmers' markets.

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  3. Old Timer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great thats just what we need, older people living longer, playing more video games.

    But I guess they could die faster because of it, just think of grandpa dying because he was on WoW for to long.....

  4. Abbreviation by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

    "AARP" doesn't mean "American Association of Retired Persons" anymore. So "AARP" actually doesn't stand for anything

    (except for fucking anyone under 50 on Social Security, of course)

    1. Re:Abbreviation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah they were kind enough to send me a join the AARP letter on my 25th birthday this year...

    2. Re:Abbreviation by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 1

      Hell, they started sending me stuff at about 20.

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  5. Extreme Shuffleboard... by aapold · · Score: 1

    What else will be in their line-up? You know, I would actually play a driving game where the goal is to tie up traffic. If I could take a 1970's Buick and drive on the same racetracks that Burnout Revenge runs on (while they are trying to do their race), just to tie up traffic, that would be sweet...

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  6. They're Out There by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Believe me, there are more Grey Gamers than you think. Of all the email I've received regarding my own game, I'd say a good 15-25% of it has been from retirees, grandparents, and other people d'un certain âge. Not the majority, by any stretch of the imagination, but a surprisingly strong showing, given that I hadn't even realized that the Grey Gamer existed.

    I think Nintendo stands a very good chance of striking gold with this strategy.

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    1. Re:They're Out There by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean striking silver?

    2. Re:They're Out There by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 1

      Point, Anonymous Coward.

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    3. Re:They're Out There by Paracelcus · · Score: 1

      Hey, I started playing PC based video games in my 40's, anybody but me remember Doom for os/2?

      Centipede, frogger or Qbert?

      LORD?

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  7. Why not? by techstar25 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems to make perfect sense to target elderly folks.
    1. They are retired and have plenty of free time.
    2. Many can't drive so they are confined to the house all day.
    3. Many can't walk so they are confined to a chair all day.
    4. Some have a good stash of disposible income.
    5. They have grandkids who are definitely playing. This could be break down the age barrier between them and promote quality time.
    6. They already love gaming (ie. Chess, Shuffleboard, Bingo). Can you imagine Wii Shuffleboard? It would probably be fun.

    I apologize if I'm stereotyping badly. I don't mean to offend anybody.

    1. Re:Why not? by DarkGreenNight · · Score: 1

      It makes more sense to see that, specially, the newly retired are from the generation that was a young adult in the 70's. That generations has been fabled for their open mind when using new forms of recreation. Also that was the time when the first videogames were created (1972-Pong).

      Heck, my father is from that generation (but Spain is different, take that into account) and he plays games for fun, much to the despair of my mother.

      I wouldn't find it strange if in 10 years discos, catering the taste of the early retired from these last years, started to appear. I was gonna put 20 years, but there are almost starting to appear now, so even 10 is too much.

    2. Re:Why not? by AdamThor · · Score: 1

      Why not? Because it has the possibility to make the platform suck otherwise.

      I really like the Wii's pricepoint. It makes me want to like the platform. But the focus that they have on softcore gamers makes me wonder it there will be any games for me to like on it.

      Now, dig this: I don't have anything against 12 year old girls playing games. Or old people either. But I'm not that market. If children and old people want to play games like Halo and Ninja Gaidan and Soul Calibur and other games that I like, GREAT! Bring 'em on. I will take great pleasure in fragging/being fragged by them.

      But if Nintendo wants to spend all it's time making the Barbi / My Little Pony crossover game, or Bingo - Large Type Version then how can I be excited about their platform? This isn't even to imply that these are the kind of games that children / the elderly would like (how would I know?) but if it's what the company thinks they'll like then it's what will get made.

      I fear that nintendo will spend too much effort courting non-traditional gamers. That's very egalitarian, and I commend it. I won't begrudge them the platform. But I may have to look elsewhere for my own entertainment.

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    3. Re:Why not? by trdrstv · · Score: 1

      They need to avoid falling into that "outside realm" niche, I agree. Currently however they are the only ones actively going after people outside the 18-35 demographic and women (of all ages). Currently though there are several games coming out in the launch window that are for the core game players. Zelda, Red Steel, and The Godfather come to mind. They may have mass market appeal, but the types of games are geared to the core gamer.

    4. Re:Why not? by Hitto · · Score: 1

      What are you going to pull out next? Five years ago, Nintendo was kiddie game crap, today's new fad is "Wii's hardware is so weak it can't even play PONG, OMG IT WILL FAIL!"

      I'm sick and tired of this generation of gamers that associates everything that doesn't contain blood with kiddie crap.

      To quote :

      "But if Nintendo wants to spend all it's time making the Barbi / My Little Pony crossover game, or Bingo - Large Type Version then how can I be excited about their platform?"

      You're either a corporate shill or a fool if you disregard the hundreds of quality games Nintendo has produced, which were not "Barbie horse adventures", an xbox game you can play on the X360, by the way.

    5. Re:Why not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well! it was a little short sighted but on the long side of it, it has much merit! I my self am 54 (one short from the down hill slip)but I and many of my friends have kept ourselves in fine shape. We look 10 to 15 years younger than we are and have life styles that allow us to do so much more with what we have worked so long for. I retired early and have been playing the Zelda games for 20 years (at least it seems like it)and love the wait for each new Zelda title can't I get them a little faster? Shuffle Board? Maybe on an Ocean Cruse! There is more life here than you know maybe. OH ! thanks for the excuse me statement it helped the blush on my face.HA!HA!

  8. Victory for Gamers by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The more people who play video games the better off gamers will be, because there is more money that goes to the games developers (and therefore more encouragement for people to create games). This is especially true of the older people- not only do they have more money, they have more influence. The idiots in congress are less likely to screw over an industry that has wide public support. As long as congress thinks games are only for people under 20, they will happily listen to people like Jack Thompson- after all, non-voters only matter if you can get the voters to 'think of the children' and support your legislation.

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    1. Re:Victory for Gamers by Rydia · · Score: 1

      Any discussion of the appropriateness of stricted regulation aside, your argument is: "old people playing games means congress would be wary of regulating minors' access to games." This is interesting because a) it's a complete non sequitur, and b) old people are generally conservative and support restriction of information to minors.

    2. Re:Victory for Gamers by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 1

      It means that they are less likely to impose onerous restrictions on games being made. I have no problems with a game like GTAIII not being sold to minors, similar to R and NC-17 movies. I do have problems with Congress passing additional laws that would, say, destroy the ESRB and replace it with a new board of Congress-appointed stooges.

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  9. Inflatable colon tie-in by SQLServerBen · · Score: 2, Funny

    The inflatable colon looked pretty popular. http://www.preventcancer.org/colorectal/events/sup er.cfm Wonder if they could work colonic health and the new controller into some kind of compelling game.

    1. Re:Inflatable colon tie-in by cno3 · · Score: 1

      I think that's a stage in the new Trauma Center game.

    2. Re:Inflatable colon tie-in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *clicks link* Oh! Right! I was thinking, like, "how would you keep the two dots together?"

  10. What with the baby boomers and all by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    this is a huge emerging demographic. I'm not surprised Nintendo's going after it, I'm just surprised Sony and Microsoft aren't.

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    1. Re:What with the baby boomers and all by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

      It's even more pronounced in Japan as one of the lowest birth rates in the world combined with very low immigration rates and incredibly long lifespans have ensured that the 65+ crowd is a huge demographic there. Europe will be a somewhat similar boat in about 10-15 years, everyone is going to be after "grey money" if you will. Now for young people like me, I just wonder what the best investments would be to take advantage of this demographic shift....

    2. Re:What with the baby boomers and all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's not "cool" or "hip" and might hurt their image. Or whatever. They believe the only gamers that exist are males ages 18-25.

  11. Setii? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Doesn't Nintendo think that if the greys can build spaceships and travel interstellar distances....oh wait....*taking off tinfoil hat*...nevermind

  12. Super Mario "Friends" by krell · · Score: 1

    sorry, i thought the title said "ghey gamers". Never mind.

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  13. starting to work by dogbowl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My mom (late 50's) flew on Japan airlines this summer when trhey were advertising Brain Training. Once back here in the states, she went out on her own and bought a DS and the game. Not only that, she drove around to 3 stores before she found any systems in stock.

    And this from a woman who had to put up with her son being obsessed with the NES back in the day. They last person who I would ever expect to buy a Nintendo on her own.

    On another note, I mentioned to her the cook book and DS browser and she was definitely interested in those. NoA needs to get serious about the older gamer and start targeting them.
    I've seen their demo stations with Brain Training running, but naturally they are mounted 3 feet off the floor and located in the video game section. ToyRus has giant signs advertising the game - but thats the problem -- its at ToyRUs. The last place any self respecting older adult is going to be shopping for themselves.

    Why they don't have Brain Training for sale at Borders, Sharper Image, etc is beyond me. It will never appeal to older people as long as its relegated to the kids section.

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    1. Re:starting to work by stastuffis · · Score: 1
      Why they don't have Brain Training for sale at Borders, Sharper Image, etc is beyond me. It will never appeal to older people as long as its relegated to the kids section

      Target actually had plans for something like this not too long ago. When I worked there, I would often talk to representatives from different companies. Anyway, the Nintendo representative told me we should have a Brain Age display in the books section which maked perfect sense.

      Nintendo needs to turn their marketing machine into overdrive. I think they have a real shot at changing the games industry once again.

  14. Im buying my parents a Wii by grapeape · · Score: 1

    This is just good strategy on Nintendo's part. With the touch line of games they are already doing a decent job reaching non-gamers for the DS. Applying that same strategy to the Wii only makes sense. My mother recently purchased a DS Lite after reading about Brain Age in a mainstream magazine.

    This strategy might end up being the wisest instance of subterfuge in video game history. Most people who dont play games dont avoid them because they dont like them, they avoid them because they are scared of technology and the percieved complexity of game consoles. Opening them up to games that they dont have to "learn" just opens the path to other games as well. My mother had already picked up Nintendogs, Namco Museum, Brain Age, Brain Academy, Tetris DS and a Soduku game. My nephew has plotted to get her to play Magical Starsign with him, though I dont know how successful that will be.

    In the long run this opens up a huge market that all the other console manufacturers tend to ignore, couple that with the unique interactivity of the Wii (which my many non-gamers will be percieved as more natural and less scary) and the Wii could be poised to dominate. Think about it, Nintendo already appeals to the grandkids, if you can hook the grandparents gaming might just make that next leap towards mainstream.

  15. I can't wait for Rockstar... by JoshDM · · Score: 1

    ...they're gonna put out "Nursing Home" in full GTA style. Get to drive cars right into storefront windows!

  16. Could make retirement more enjoyable... by kabocox · · Score: 1

    O.k. It maybe time that we rethink this whole retirement thing. (Esp. so my generation won't have to pay for those baby boombers.) Let's just give them all a Wii and call it a day.

    When I was in college I worked on a medical imaging research project. That was just about the time PS2 was coming out. At the time, I thought it would be great if the PS4 or PS5 could run our medical software on a daily basis monitoring the daily health of gamers. Everyone is excited by the more physical input of Wii. Well, all 3 systems have some form of on-line connection. What would it take for PS3, 360, or Wii to have a health monitoring pack as well? The really exciting part is if you could record and upload your health and have your doctor view it. Another idea would be tie it in with a service similiar to e-doc.

    Two other areas that we could see actual cross platform "games" is online politics, online dating games, or just online social gatherings. The online politics would try to use the on-line and mass market features of the next gen systems for organizing "grass roots" customized politic parties. The online dating game would just be what it sounds like. Throw in a character creation tool and something that looks similiar to the Sims except the goal would be finding similiar people with simliar interests and arranging real life or virtual meetings. On-line social gatherings happen in every MMORPG. What about one designed for people wanting to use it to organize church meetings, PTA events, or school events? What will happen when people that don't really use computers can use a game console to organize their entire social life? The more that I think about it, the more it sounds that we are ready for these ideas in our "next-generation" game consoles.

  17. The Greys, huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The WII controller would make an admirable probe, would it not?

  18. From Youth to Death by Karem+Lore · · Score: 1
    So let me get this straight, Nintendo are now striking at the whole age spectrum...

    Not enough that parents sit their kids in front of a television all day/evening, it now seems as though Nintendo want to do the same in retirement homes across the world!

    I can see it now:

    Nurse: Take this pill...
    Patient: Ok
    Nurse: Now be a good boy and play with you wii wii thing...

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  19. it's not going to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to have high hopes for Nintendo breaking into a new market but I can't just see it. People who aren't into video games are not going to buy a system for $250, a controller for $60 and games at $50 a pop.

    Think about with DVDs, now a mainstream, didn't gain any steam until players were $100 and movies dropped to $15. Now think about people that love to watch movies all the time that didn't get into DVDs until those price drops, now imagine someone that would occasionally play a video game, you think if they didn't spend the money to watch movies (something they do more of), that they'll spend more money (a lot more in comparison) for something they would hardly touch?

    You get that Wii down to $50 and games to $10, you can possibly crack into the parents/grand parent markets, but until that happens, I can't see people paying $350-$400 for something they'd play a few times a month (if that) and then collect dust since they won't like paying $50 for games and get tired of the ones they have.

    1. Re:it's not going to work by HappySqurriel · · Score: 1

      People who aren't into video games are not going to buy a system for $250, a controller for $60 and games at $50 a pop

      People said the same thing about the Nintendo DS when it began this strategy; the gaming industry in Japan has grown by over 50% in one year, and the North American gaming industry has grown by 11%, and analysts have claimed that this is because the DS has been successful at expanding the market.

  20. Tetris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, I'm not kidding, but Tetris seems to be addicting for many older adults who weren't raised playing video games.

    I have no idea why, but I know of plenty of people who love it...

  21. Can you imagine.... by Driving+Vertigo · · Score: 1

    ...The number of elderly people up in arms spreading hate speech and banning Nintendo for not releasing a Matlock game?

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  22. My Dad pwns your Dad by fujiman · · Score: 1
    My father (70 years old this year) has finally gotten into First-Person Shooters. He's playing Far Cry and Call of Duty 2 on a new dual-core box I built for him.

    The funny part is that during his younger gaming years, he was an aficionado of Avalon Hill and SPI wargames. When he got his first computer, he would play Steel Panthers, Age of Rifles, etc. He moved up to Real Time Strategy games (He loved Age of Empires), and now plays FPSs.

    I don't think he's ready for online yet, though. Probably spend most of the time telling the CS babies to "watch their language". But, I'm proud of him :)

  23. Scarier than any Halloween crap. by PaganRitual · · Score: 1

    I frantically clicked on this story from Gametab thinking it was a report on Nintendo going after importers ala Sony, but because it wasn't specific I was worried it was games as well as hardware. Then I find it's just talking about people that probably don't know what a computar is. As soon as I change my underwear, I'm outta here.