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What Really Happened To Ubuntu's Edgy Artwork?
angrykeyboarder writes, "Many Ubuntu users expressed surprise, dismay, and disappointment when Mark Shuttleworth (sabdfl) nixed the popular community-developed artwork during the beta phase of Ubuntu 6.10 ('The Edgy Eft'). Some Ubuntu community members were downright shocked, and many were ultimately dissatisfied with the final product. What exactly happened? Short answer: the Art Team was less disturbed than some other community members were. Linux.com has the scoop." Slashdot and Linux.com are both part of OSTG.
this really pisses me off. Would it be so fucking hard to just fucking link to an example of "edgy art" Jesus. They have links that go to text, and links on the text pages go to more text. Hello? Don't waste my time with this. Just show me the art which is the subject of the article.
Found some... with some digging. Peace, Tropic and Blubuntu.
The World Wide Web is dying. Soon, we shall have only the Internet.
Here are some links to screenshots of the artwork in question:
P lan/Polish/Incoming/ P lan/Polish/Directions/
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtwork
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/EdgyArtwork
I believe this was the last Edgy artwork.
Zing!
That stuff looks really amatuerish
"Edgy Eft" is the "nick-name" of the release of Ubuntu. Like "Woody" was a Debian release and "Zod" was a Fedora release.
"Edgy art" does not refer to "provocative art", but "art for the 'Edge Eft' release".
All Ubuntu releases are named with an adjective and an animal, and they have to alliterate. I have no idea why.
Sheesh.
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sorry, this is a part of OSS culture I entirely fail to understand. Like, when there is a new version of distro X and some OS News sites have nothing better to report than a 15 pages of hires screenshots of the default desktop etc.
You mean you install a new distro and then judge its worth by the look of the default theme? You don't change the theme first thing? You don't know how to install a custom theme if you don't like the preconfigured choices?
But then again, my boxen run headless 98% of the time, so why should I care...
605413? Yes, it's a prime.
I don't know what direction was required for the art, but the samples have that "ooohhh shiny" web 2.0 feel to them so they just must be better :p
Meeehhh, it will all change again anyway when everyone jumps on the Web 3.0 graphic design bandwagon or whatever the next hot trend will be.
. . .showing pictures of the human body is taboo.
It wasn't even intended. It was just a GUI malfunction.
KFG
Wow, it's actually a real site.
Why should this happen? Why should "some community members" be shocked if Ubuntu is being developed as "an Open Source OS?" And I guess they were following Ubuntu's development pretty closely.
I need this question answered: Is Mark Shuttleworth a benevolent dictator in Ubuntu's Development?
The reason is quite simple. It takes more money to raise a child than to bury a person.
Undetectable Steganography? Yep, there's an app fo
"And in what society is killing people fine? That's a pretty ignorant statement..."
Perhaps my sarcasm detector is malfunctioning, but have you turned on a television or played a popular computer game in the last, oh 50 years?
As an example, today's FPSs look almost identical to some of the training simulators I used in my unit a few years ago minus any of the moral context and maturity of the personnel. Give Lt. Col. David Grossman's "On Killing" a read - it's quite an eye-opener if you haven't thought too deeply about how pervasive entertainment can easily desensitize and incrementally condition unwitting persons.
Chief artist head honcho summed it up: "We set out to start from scratch and to top Dapper, while Dapper was arguably very close to what Mark had in mind."
Hmm...sort of reminds me of the Slashdot CSS Redesign Contest. Need the Slashdot "Shade of Green" and Coliseo font. Basically it has to be very similar to the old one, but better. Sometimes it fades into the background once the hubbub dies down...as people realize that visual continuity and product branding do count for something...
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The icons were professionally designed:
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http://iconfactory.com/design/detail/ubuntu
By one guy. Working directly with Mark.
My suggestion for the art team would be to establish someone as an art director. Someone that Mark trusts to implement his vision. And then have that art director give specific tasks to the designers that report to him.
It sounds like they're heading in that direction by giving Frank Stroep the title of "Artist in Chief". His task now is to tell people what he wants. And if you think it's easy being a hard ass when it comes to design & the people who do it, let me assure you IT IS NOT.
If this doesn't happen, they'll end up taking the "design by committee" approach. The result of this kind of process is something that no one loves -- a lowest common denominator. Sort of like when software is designed by a committee
For what it's worth, I'm a principal in the company that did the Ubuntu work -- so I speak from experience about this stuff
-ch
This is not porn. Every image of the nude human form is not porn.
Nothing sounds better to me than -current and -stable.
What about -useful? It boggles the mind that OpenBSD doesn't support IrDA or IPX!
How can you live with an OS that lacks these fundamental and necessary technologies in today's world? I mean, what about reading IR codes from VCR remotes? What if you want to play StarCraft with a person that is at an early patch level? These are important questions that need to be addressed!
Qualitas edurus commercium, nullus penitus net rimor, nullus deus beneficium
well, speaking as a guy that really appreciates his porn, i'm finding this a little hard to masturbate to. a little "edgier", please.
who flippin cares??!!! just install vista! :P
As for the complaining, I'm a bit perplexed: That sounds like a legitimate enough problem. Unfinished artwork and effects can make a distro look amateurish.
Besides, I thought the point of OSS is the flexibility that comes with it? Are these Ubuntu users going to be forced to use it.
Quack, quack.
Why wouldn't someone want naked people on their desktop? When I consider all the stupid wallpapers I've seen (anime characters, eggs, tiny photos stretched out of proportion, and so on), naked people seems like a big step in the right direction.
I always found it annoying that Windows by default shows nothing but a little green/blue thingy scrolling around -- that doesn't even show boot progress.
Before Edgy, Ubuntu has always showed nonverbose messages about which services it's starting, etc. I couldn't understand these messages when I first started using Linux (I started with Ubuntu Breezy) but after 6 months they were informative and useful to me -- it's always nice to know what service is taking a long time and things like that.
That's why I was dismayed when Edgy replaced the old boot screen with one that mimics Windows's boot screen. It's only marginally more helpful by showing boot progress (not that that's very accurate).
Now I have to resort to remove the "quiet splash" option in the Grub menu. The disadvantage to this is it's too verbose -- it shows all sort of output, causing messages to scroll by faster than I can read them.
I never thought that it was overly confusing/distracting to have the messages...I wonder what percentage of Ubuntu users share your opinion.
How the hell did this crap get modded insightful?
1) Shuttleworth is the CREATOR of Ubuntu. Head honcho. What he did was to roll back the artwork to a Dapper variant, CHANGING the DEFAULT theme that was to be in Edgy.
2) Blubuntu is in the repositories. If you want to use it, then install it and use it. Like you said, Linux is about choice. But at least know what you are bitching about.
Oooh, so you're not talking about actual sex or violence, you're talking about simulated sex and violence. Because it's bloody obvious that most societies disapprove ov violence more than sex - even in the US, I think you're birth rate is still higher than your murder-rate. I'd say the reason people are more okay with violence on the screen than sex is that they consider it unlikely that little Johnnie is going to go out and blow up a city block with a bazooka from a commandeered humvee no matter how many action flicks he sees. If he watches a lot of skin flicks though, it's probably going to give him ideas next time he's alone with little Sally.
Violence is obviously wrong, and you can usually rely on that as enough of a disincentive to discourage it. Even if you can't, the availability of bazookas also limits it. Sex, on the other hand isn't obviously wrong like violence, but it can lead to unwanted and unconsidered consequences - pregnancy, disease, etc, as well as increasing the complexity and intensity of a relationship. It has to be discouraged because it's so available - whereas violence of the action-movie sort remains remote; the viewer is rarely going to be in a situation where they could emulate it.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
What a achievement, new backgrounds and splash screens! I thought 'Edgy Eft' was meant to try out some new kinds of technology or some new kind of user interactions. I even hoped there might be some provocative design decisions which allows to bring the Linux desktop a footprint forward. Yet backgrounds and splash screens don't improve my working system by a single inch. So what's so edgy on 'Edgy Eft'?
O. Wyss
See http://wyoguide.sf.net/papers/Cross-platform.html
If you like the screenshots (links posted earlier) for Peace, Tropic, and Blubuntu, then install them through your favorite package manager - they are in the Ubuntu repos.
Let me know next time your sandwich knocks you up.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
You know, Hannibal Lecter had a very "agile and developed" mind, and I'm pretty sure he defended his dietary habits in much the same fashion.
Those who differ from the norm always consider themselves superior rather than inferior.
When did taking a dump last profoundly change a relationship?
How big is the market for pictures of people eating lunch?
Do you get spam offering mouth enlargements?
How often to people seek psychiatric help over luncheon problems?
Do you think "agile and developed" is a synonym for "adolescent"
EXACTLY! If society tells you sex is dirty and wrong and should be hidden, is it really any surprise it becomes such? Thanks for providing a PERFECT argument against your own.
More talk of sex, I say! Fewer young people learning about it through rumor, innuendo, porno mags passed around, and spam email that lead them to believe every woman is a "slut in heat" and that "every man has a horse cock." Treat and address sex in a healthy manner, shown in a contextually appropriate setting where potential consequences are considered and you may not have children having babies because they are driven by their hormones with no information.
Put it this way, if the only people you ever see having sex are in a plastic, promiscuous, consequence free world with crappy disco music, what examples do you have of healthy sex life between monogamous, loving adults that RESPECT each other. If all our other behavior patterns are learned by observation and emulation of parents and other role-models, why is sex the single exception? People have no idea of what role sex should play in their lives in the real world and are left with only basic hormonal urges and porno movies for guidance. That makes no sense to me. I mean, that kind of plan worked so well with prohibition and all....
state-organized executions in North Korea
Not saying that's a wonderful place to live, but shouldn't we focus on state-organized executions in Texas first?
Most people have never had sex profoundly change a relationship.
You know why?
Because they don't have relationships without sex!
Only scared teenagers do, and when the hormons gets the better of them, and they always do, they will have sex, wether their parents want it or not, and if they are not prepared for it they will not be prepared, and then it leads to undesired consequences (teen pregnancy).
Hmm, I watch Naked News every afternoon. On my desktop I have a picture of Jessica Alba laying on a bed naked. My wallpaper usually alternates between a random naked girl and any good Jessica Alba wallpaper I can find.
Just about any if they're different from the mainstream. Ie, not white and "Christian"*.
* Read the link to see why I put Christian in quotes. Here's a quote:
"The Federal Reserve is a fraudulent system."--Lew Rockwell
End The FED. -
The sad thing is that most people who read this will now side with the tone set in the summary (that Shuttlesworth is wrong and/or a bad person).
Sometimes I think the folks who edit slashdot get a story and roll the dice to see if they are going to give it a positive or negitave slant, and then monitor their success rate of getting the larger part of the community to agree with them.
I guess Ubuntu's success upset ./ so it is time we turn on them too in keeping with our underdog mentality, but last I checked OSTG no garage based effort either. Maybe it is time for ./ to turn on itself?
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
I like how you miss the point, and then consider your mind more agile and developed.. must be easy to have a more agile viewpoint on life when in actual fact you don't notice what's going on. He's got a very good point as to why sex is more frowed upon than violence in entertainment, aside from the fact that some people, surprise surprise, don't need porn, as they have the real thing to keep them happy.
which is totally what she said
And it is even cheaper to educate people about sex in the first place.
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