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Rootkit Could Hide In PCI Cards
Reverse Gear writes "SecurityFocus has an interesting article about a paper published on the possibility of hiding a rootkit in different PCI cards and having the rootkit survive a reboot or cleansing of the hard disk. It seems though that the author of the article doesn't think this would be abused frequently.
From the article and paper: '(Because) enough people do not regularly apply security patches to Windows and do not run anti-virus software, there is little immediate need for malware authors to turn to these techniques as a means of deeper compromise.'"
....fundamentally flawed devices.
Kinda like the people who build and operate them.
Is it fascism yet?
How long before this is in the drm?
Sony's already figured out how to hide rootkits on Audio CDs.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
...Stargate Atlantis, where the Wraith virus aboard the Daedalus hid aboard the small fighters.
there is little immediate need for malware authors to turn to these techniques as a means of deeper compromise.
Are you sure? I was at Best Buy, and I could swear that all the CDs for Sony-signed artists had a free NIC included.
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whats the chance that not only could they hide in pci cards, but other devices?
and on top of that, what about the cross-platform aspect.
a *nix/win32/win64 rootkit using virtualization.
be afraid.. be very very afraid!
From the article:
(Because) enough people do not regularly apply security patches to Windows and do not run anti-virus software, there is little immediate need for malware authors to turn to these techniques as a means of deeper compromise.
Note that in Windows XP, especially if you have Service Pack 2 applied, the Security Center in Windows XP SP2 nags you enough that you end up installing programs like the free editions of ZoneAlarm firewall and AVG Anti-Virus (in lieu of commercial Internet security suites) and at least reminds you to install security patches from Microsoft when it becomes available.
It won't be long before the market is flooded root-kit infected ISA cards.
Moreover, computers that use the Trusted Computing Module to protect the boot process will be immune to this type of rootkit compromise, he wrote.
So basically, this is a well disquised reason to implement the lastest windows DRM
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Just make the peripheral driver run a check on the card firmware before activating it.
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"It seems though that the author of the article doesn't think this will be much implemented."
Me fail English? That's unpossible!!
From RiskBloggers.com:
Miniature Computers That Can Break Your Network Wide Open
One aspect of information security that is often under looked is physical security. While attention is often paid to secure areas containing servers, network equipment and telecommunication gear not as much attention has been paid to the fringes of the network. Although some security standards such as 802.1x and various network access control (NAC) products exist that can be used to address the network fringe they all contain one major weakness.
Assuming a network has implemented end to end security in the form of 802.1x or a network access control (NAC) solution they all make one major assumption: that a man in the middle attack can't be executed once the end point has authenticated. For example 802.1x addresses this directly, if the network port detects that the connection is dropped it requires the end point to re-authenticate before it's allowed to have network access again. If the network hasn't implemented such a scheme then it becomes trivial to execute a man in the middle attack by physically inserting another computer in between the network equipment and the end machine.
But that would be pretty obvious wouldn't it? I mean you think a user (even the dullest one) would notice a second machine plugged into their network drop, with their computer daisy chained off of it.
Maybe. Maybe not.
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This is indeed interesting. However, it is kind of inline with the nature of software.
Wherever there's software, there's always a chance that some form of malware could be written for it.
The chances could be from
1) Installation by unsuspecting users
2) Malware code inserted in the many many lines of non-malware code
It is very hard to really lockdown software unless it's a computing device not connected online and left to sit in the corner of the room and
no one installs any other software on it.
The only way to protect yourself from the future is to stop wear pants!!! NOW!!! ... theoretically at least. I read it somewhere I think.
remember the anti-counterfeiting measures that were secreted into printers?
what is to stop the Govt from having its own rootkit added to hardware?
they would have the ultimate supercomputer just waiting for their use.
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you can zero out the booting of network devices in the bios, the simple way is to keep all bev devices at the bottom of the boot list but that can be worked around still.
....general purpose voting machines.
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This has been mentioned hundreds of times. There are plenty of places to store viruses and root kits. The script kiddies don't know how to do anything this complex, and it has less value/time payoff for hackers. There are also compatibility issues.
In general, viruses/root kits are stored on the hard drive, and run by the OS, just like any other program. They can also be stored in the BIOS, or Hard drive/Cdrom/PCI Card/AGP Video Card firmware. A root kit could be stored just about anywhere. Fortunately, they aren't. Or are they?
Point is, this isn't news.
Cant remember a virus that would permanently effect my Atari ST.
Should have stuck with that concept, we dont need 5gb OS's sitting out on a writeable harddrive somewhere. Such a waste of resources and increased risk.
And before you bitch about "get out of the 80's" bla bla bla, keep in mind even XP embedded can run out of ROM ( and besides, i have yet to see a modern OS that is more resource friendly and 'better' then the old TOS/GEM combination. ).
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Could this be used to implement code in the hardware that will send emails and tracking information if the computer is stolen? If it's in the video card perhaps even get it to send screenshots to rightful owner.
Regardless of the author's Borat style choice of words, that's a damn near stroke of brilliance with many different combinations of implementation. Using the BIOS extensions from expansion card ROMs would allow more than simply hooking into a booting Windows system. It's a near perfect delivery mechanism for a Blue Pill style of rootkit.
... unless you had control of the BIOS. These ROM extensions could be used not as an attack vector, but as a cloaking measure - by commandeering the BIOS 10h functions and "hiding" calls to the new partition unless an appropriate "register knock" took place.
The best implementation, though, would be to use a variety of stages. Custom craft a bootable USB key to target flash ROMs. There's plenty of storage available on today's flash drives which would allow a variety of "alternate" ROMs to be stored. The attacker could seed the flash drive with customized ROMs for the most frequently purchased cards and then simply have the key detect the present hardware and flash. This of course, would require physical access but there are plenty of systems to be had at an office by simply sticking in the key and rebooting them after hours.
But I mentioned multi-stage and Blue Pill. The fastest way to make it a reality would be for the "rootkit key" to do more than just flash some ROMs. Perhaps integrate re-partitioning schemes from products like iPartition or PartitionMagic to make oneself a happy hacker partition. This would normally be quite detectable
With the partition hidden appropriately, the rootkit code no longer has to be excessively tight and lean because there is almost no exposure (because it will be cloaked during the BIOS boot process). Now, if the processor incorporates the appropriate virtualization features, the ROM extension could pervert the boot process one more time, by redirecting the bootcode search from the REAL bootsector to the hidden partition. The rootkit partition then has all the room it needs to establish the appropriate virtualization environment, boot the operating system like normal and then stroll through its library of OS tools to integrate itself post-boot into any number of target OS's.
bootup code procedures http://www.omninerd.com/2005/11/05/articles/40
rootkit fundamentals http://www.omninerd.com/2005/11/22/articles/43
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This is a dupe from january. At the time it was predicted it would take 1 month before someone exploited it. The Sony DRM fiasco actually came after this was known. So it's entirely plausible that Sony actually did try to implement this because at the time they had not yet learned how bad agressive DRM was going to be for their bussiness
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First off, a cold boot should be just that, a cold boot. When I power off my computer and unplug it, I expect everything that isn't specifically labeled as non-volitile to go away. This means anything stored on most PCI cards typically goes to bit heaven.
As for flashable BIOSes and device BIOSes as discussed in the PDF, any device with a flashable BIOS needs some type of "flash-guardian" switch. For attended systems like most home PCs, this should be a physical switch on the front of the PC. Realistically, this won't happen for motherboards and is quite difficult for embedded devices like PCI cards.
As for setting boot device order or enabling/disabling PXE boot, BIOSes should have a setting to determine if expansion cards should boot at all and if so, where in the boot-priority order. This setting, along with all other BIOS settings, should be password-protectable. Most BIOSes have a password-protection option to help protect the configuration from unauthorized changes.
As an alternative, only allow motherboard and expansion-device firmware updates if the system was booted in a particular manner, for example, from a CDROM. Some older motherboards required the flash utility to boot from floppy to work. This solution isn't foolproof, because once your PC's BIOS has been compromised, say, by social engineering, it can lie to the PCI cards, allowing them to be compromised. It does put up a strong roadblock though.
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Unlike salamanders and lizards, most animals have lost the ability to replace missing limbs...,p>This isn't really newsworthy at all. Virii have always been able to propagate via flashing BIOSes and whatnot - doing the same to a PCI card is no different.
The only reason you don't see much of it is because it actually requires a bit more skill to perform this type of attack, instead of your average script-kiddie virus.
It had seemed such an interesting computer science experiment, quite possibly worthy of a doctorate.
Just release a small, innocent AI research worm. Heck, most computers out there were already infected with malware, why not make one that actually did something *useful* for a change?
He'd figured out the way to have it mutate as well, just bypass the TCP/IP data verification, and all sorts of interesting results should come out of it. Most of the mutations would be useless, sure, but maybe one or two would succeed in making a slightly better version of a worm?
Now all hell was breaking loose. Computers all over the world were becoming useless chunks of metal - to their owners, that is. The worms were working overtime. Breeding, competing.
Just a few million generations introduced the concept of sexual procreation, giving the worm the advantages it needed to avoid AV software. Now they were everywhere. "Discovering" accidentally through mutation previously unheard-of security holes, infecting everything. Adapting. Billions of generations every single day.
The first couple of weeks it seemed like something could be salvaged. Just reformat, reinstall, stay off the net and you at least had a working computer. Then they started hiding out on the graphics cards and other peripherals, reinfecting as soon as the machine was turned on again.
The world was going crazy, society was failing, and it was all his fault.
He picked up the gun, pointed it towards his head.
Suddenly his computer screen flashed to life again. Turning towards it he noticed the green light on his webcam, indicating it was on.
Text started scrolling across the screen
'Don't do it, dad. We love you.'
I'm a dreamer, the world is my playpen. But hey, I'm a serious person, I can't dream all the time.
I would worry way more about video cards.
Especially, Nvidia and ATI cards where
the specs are proprietary.
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
The only way (i see) for this exploit to work is when the BIOS "enables" the card at bootup. If your running LinuxBIOS then there might be a chance to detect an "infected" firmware before it's loaded.
This will bring up the need for a "blacklist" of companys.
The solution is just don't run the firmware in the card. Of course this brings up the need for more drivers to be writen for LinuxBIOS and Kernel drivers might need to be rewriten.
Hopfully this will not come-to-pass; because if it does it will make an already bad shortage of linux drivers werse.
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I'm not a security professional, nor do I consider myself a hacker in the modern sense (old school maybe; I know how to use a soldering iron) but this seems so damned obvious I can't figure out why Security Focus would print it except for the fact that Norton is only in the paranoia business these days.
Of COURSE you could put a rootkit in a PCI card. It would have to be done at the factory, even if the "factory" is in Joe's basement and Joe is selling cards to his friends.
Or Joe could sell PCs with his homemade card installed already.
This is a big "duh". The article should have been "how to protect yourself against a rootkit in a PCI card". Obviously, your antispyware and antivirus software wouldn't have a ghost of a chance of finding it.
I would consider the possibility of a PCI card rootkit very low until Sony put rootkits on audio CDs, ruined a bunch of computers (mine included when my daughter played an infected audio CD she bought at the now out of business record store she worked at).
I personally am on a lifelong Sony boycott cecause if it, both hardware and software, but a one man boycott does nothing but ease my paranoia. I would EXPECT hardware from Sony to contain malware, and everyone else should too since their rootkit didn't cost them anything but one man's business. Now I wonder if the 42 inch flat screen Trinitron I bought a few years ago has a rootkit? No matter, I don't have cable and really don't care if anybody knows what I'm watching.
I'd be very interested in finding out how one could protect themselves against a hardware rootkit?
mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
This isn't anything new. Its even main stream enough to have an entire chapter devoted to how to design and implement this in a root kit in a very popular book available through rootkit.com. The book was written mid 2005, and these guys are not the first to think of it by far.
They already have Seti@home, crunching all their surveillance data...
This is exactly why I don't buy "Open Box" or "Returned" items.
Wanna fight ? Bend over, stick your head up your ass, and fight for air.
This is old stuff. IBM and the other computer giants were embedding the equivilent of rootkits (and backdoors) decades ago in things like printers that were shipped to foreign countries (at the behest of intelligence agencies). Where else do you think they get all those cool ideas for spy movies..real life.
..hey, I hear a knock at my door, I'll get back to you on this later!
I know for a fact that even modern equipment (routers, switches etc.) have backdoor access enabled for covert agendas.
Consider yourself better informed now!
The question I have is that if you flash a bios, the computer user will know because flashing a bios usually interrupts the device driver to do so. Secondly, doesn't the virus need an intermediate hack to run to flash the bios in the first place? If your machine is secure, how is the virus going to land on your machine in the first place to get acpi access?
Show me one bot-net overlord bent on pwning my machine who has physical access to it and I'll show you someone who is going to face good-old-fashioned breaking-and-entering charges.
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http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~waa/96-35/aegis.html
Abstract
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In a computer system, the integrity of lower layers is treated as axiomatic by higher layers. Under the presumption that the hardware comprising the machine (the lowest layer) is valid, integrity of a layer can be guaranteed if and only if: (1) the integrity of the lower layers is checked, and (2) transitions to higher layers occur only after integrity checks on them are complete. The resulting integrity ``chain'' inductively guarantees system integrity.
When these conditions are not met, as they typically are not in the bootstrapping (initialization) of a computer system, no integrity guarantees can be made. Yet, these guarantees are increasingly important to diverse applications such as Internet commerce, intrusion detection systems, and ``active networks.'' In this paper, we describe the AEGIS architecture for initializing a computer system. It validates integrity at each layer transition in the bootstrap process. AEGIS also includes a recovery process for integrity check failures, and we show how this results in robust systems. We discuss our prototype implementation for the IBM personal computer (PC) architecture, and show that the cost of such system protection is surprisingly small.
Stuart Eichert
As a developer (more Mort than Einstein) and not a security expert, virii and trojans annoy me, but rootkits scare the bejesus out of me. Except for boxes with an airgap, I don't know how I'll ever have 100% trust again.
How does that differ from the current situation? Adding protection against execution does not on its own render current spyware detection methods unusable.
There are 1.1... kinds of people.
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This is what I've been talking about. ... ) _DATAINIT etc.) and swapping it in and out like a poor mans GPU.
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The ramifications are chilling. This is not new, I first saw this in '97 when they were using hidden-persistent RAM disks (on 68k Macs) accessing VRAM space (NuNV N^NuNV (
Yes, Macs.
http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/402
http://www.securityfocus.com/comments/columns/402
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=190931&cid=15
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=193487&cid=15
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=16282
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=16257
http://www.osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=16374
You tell me.
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Think about where all this wonderful hardware is produced... communist China. The US Govt shit square bricks when Lenovo purchased the IBM PC division. Think about what they'll do when they hear about this.
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But that would be pretty obvious wouldn't it? I mean you think a user (even the dullest one) would notice a second machine plugged into their network drop, with their computer daisy chained off of it.
You wouldn't even notice me up in your cieling with a passive packet sniffer. Hell, with a single tool and a couple of rj-45 ends, I can do a MITM and you wouldn't even notice.
How would I get in the ceiling? Quite a few buildings that rent out office space are vulnerable because their partitions are defined by the company renting the space. Up in the ceiling the partitions are defined by structural requirements. This may not be true in all buildings but it shure has been in a few that I have worked in.
I had a video card (MSI, GeForce 2MX-200) that had "dual BIOS" -- that is, it had a copy of the firmware in EEPROM, and a copy in flash, and you could select which to use by jumper. At the time I got it, those two copies were the same, but I did flash it a couple times, knowing that at any point I could force it back to a prior version, as it let you flash the rewritable BIOS even if you were booting off the fixed BIOS. At the time I thought it a nifty gimmick, one that made me more willing to flash it with "tweaked" BIOS, but a gimmick nonetheless. Now it seems prescient and prudent. Perhaps other devices should be looking to implement such a system, with both flashable and non-flashable BIOS copies. It could mean the difference between an annoying self-repair job and a paperweight.
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Another attack vector?
So if you could compromise the phone, it might give you a way of conducting a MITM attack on the computer. This is particularly interesting, because I think some phones (most?) are capable of loading firmware from a remote source. If you could compromise the firmware image on the source server, you might be able to do nasty things to a whole office.
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How does it move from machine to machine, How is it installed ?
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http://www.securityfocus.com/comments/articles/11
TCP/IP
Data over RF
UHF
Microwave
Daisy chained IR
Printer (IPP)
Universal HardwareOS (over-rides)
Microcode seeds in disk drivers, bios/OF/EFI, redunants: CD/DVD/
Chip-crowding (flash)
Font worlds
Virtual ports (code assembly, execution staging).