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Silicon Superconductors
Diana writes "Physicists at CNRS have demonstrated superconductivity in silicon, the element long known for its semiconducting properties. High doping is the key — by substituting 9% of the silicon atoms with boron atoms, it was found that the resistance of the material drops sharply when cooled below 0.35 K. A small increase in the transition temperature is likely with further work."
"A small increase in the transition temperature is likely with further work."
It could go as high as 0.40K. Hooray.
Pretty much anything will superconduct below 0.35K. How is this news?
But you can make pretty much anything superconductive if you get it down below .5 Kelvin. I mean really, go much lower and you can make Twinkies superconductive much less boron doped silicon.
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Superconductivity in non-superconductive materials, except where they've been doped to be superconductive.
Makes me want to get back to the pub.
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What non-consumer applications will it have? Getting something down to
IIRC, anything that doesn't superconduct at the temp of liquid nitrogen is a pain in the ass to use.
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whatever that means!
How is that useful? Only Canada gets that cold!
What a coincide, 0.35 K is the same temp I keep my house ;)
space is pretty cold, maybe they could use it up there?
And just to make the article more clear: Let's substitute "boron" with Tom (hey, what guy wouldn't want more boron?), and "silicon" with Suzie (hey, what girl woudln't want more, eh, yeah.).
"Because it has one fewer electron than Suzie available for bonding with neighbouring atoms, Tom incorporated into Suzie leaves a positively-charged "hole" at each site where Tom's "missing" electron would be paired with one of Suzie's."
Well they did do it in France, you know.
One should not always relate things to 'applied' science. There is a predecessor called 'pure' science that acts as an enabler for rest of the world. Sure average Joe doesn't care but it is a significant improvement in the scientific world. Now many critical research can be performed on "silicon" (although at insanely low temperature). Remember the time when there were only few elements in the world that exhibited the property of superconducting? Now Silicon is yet another addition and considering how Silicon is closely related to computing, this could be a jump board for the speed-demanding future ahead.
Um, lots of people care. The MRI machines use super-conducting material cooled with liquid nitrogen, this might make them more efficient. Plus, when I've got my Mag-Lev skate board, you're gonna think I'm pretty cool too. Even if I
am in space.
BTW, 0.35 K = -272 C
Space is around 2.7K or, -270 C (Assuming no Extraneous Radiation)
I'm fighting The War on Drugs!
The blackbody spectrum of space is still 3K or so.
If we can turn semiconductors into superconductors, then we can probably turn my band conductor into a semi-conductor, which would at the very least mean less thrown chairs during parent teacher conferences, and less thrown chairs can only be good for Linux!
(Yes, that happened; and yes, he is still in band director.)
When things get complex, multiply by the complex conjugate.
Since when did science have to have applications?
(This isn't sarcasm; science is about discovery. Applications of those discoveries are mostly accident. You can't automatically "succeed" at science. Failing to find a room-temperature superconductor isn't failing per se; it means succeeding to eliminate another coulda been material. Finding dead ends is part of the quest. And this result might not yet be a dead end.)
So far, most of the comments have been posted by boring morons.
-A bored moron
At 0.35K it will only ever work in Canada. So Winterpeg could become a mecca of supercooled computing yet...
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
Who cares? People who are trying to work out how superconductivity happens so that there may been room temperature superconductivity some day - that is who cares. Please keep the profanity to yourself as you play in the garden and let the Moorlocks get back to it.
But you must admit, getting an object to 0.35 K from 3 K is a lot easier than bringing it from 300 K.
Boron was made superconducting by doping it with 90% silicon.
I work on a radiotelescope that uses receivers cooled to 4K. These use a helium refrigerator that works just like the Freon thing in your car but using helium instead of Freon as the phase-change medium. It takes three stages of cooling (with compressors and heat exchangers) to get to the 4K point. It also takes 10 kW of electrical power to cool one watt of load to 4K.
We until recently had one receiver, a bolometer, that was cooled to 0.4K using the 3He isotope of helium that has a lower boiling point. The refrigerator for this is a fist-sized gadget that uses a charcoal trap, a heater resistor and some plumbing to make a refrigerator that can be cycled to produce 0.4K for a day or so at a time. It makes many microwatts of 0.4K coldness from less than one watt of 4K coldness.
Unfortunately, the 3He leaked out and the gizmo is currently a paperweight since it was made by a very clever French guy who's no longer in the business.
You can still buy 3He refrigerators from other manufacturers, but they are two feet long. The 3He is available for several thousand dollars a bottle.
The determined Real Programmer can write Fortran programs in any language.
It's just a process of discovery to advance science. If we didn't go through these scientific processes of discovery then we would still have people running around thinking that everything was controlled by some big booming voice in the sky. Oh wait...
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Yes, 0.35 K is really cold. Refridgeration methods that reach this temperature cost ~ $100,000 and use the helium-3 isotope as the working fluid, which costs several hundred dollars per gaseous liter at STP. But this may still be useful because there is lots of established technology for making very small things out of silicon, and lots of fundemental physics that can only be done at very small length scales and in very cold environments.
The only thing worse than an aggressively ignorant idiot is a foul-mouthed one.
In the 1830s, it was discovered that some materials acted as neither pure conductors nor pure insulators. They called them semiconductors, and they were a curiosity until the 1890s, when they were found to be useful as rectifiers and photovoltaic cells. Another 40 years later, and people started to consider them as a replacement for the triode vacuum tube, which was immensely useful but fragile and difficult to deal with.
Pure research in new directions isn't just allowed because it 'might lead to something,' it's absolutely essential in order to progress beyond refinement of the existing.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
Please keep the profanity to yourselfNow there's something not seen every day - a wannabe list-mom, not afraid to strike out. Wickedly delivered, sure to strike fear in the heart of the evil-doer you've so publically chastised. Can we have another?
Let me offer just a small bit of advice, and remember, it is promised to be worth exactly what you paid for it.
Stop - don't do that again. You'll only bring attention to yourself as being a target ripe for kicking, while setting yourself up for a tight-fitting suit of frustration. Most forums have appointed Moderators who are responsible for reminding the rowdy - but this is Slashdot, where there are no visible moderators. Once the blood (yours) gets in the water, every shark in the vicinity will line up for a bite of your face...and they have pretty long memories, so don't think you can drop into lurk mode and resurface for a second attempt any time soon.
If you simply can't resist the urge to police another human being, try hanging out near the Slushy machine at your favorite 7-11. First time someone wastes a napkin or spills on the floor, feel free to put on your best mean-face...don't be shy. Promise them the risk of being banned from the store is real...ask their name and take it down, then angrily storm up to the cashier and hand it over, not with a shrug. but with the hard-boned hubrusity of someone who is convinced they are society's elite. This will not only make your day as a citizen, it will be something you'll be proud of for years to come.
Put it on your resume, perhaps. Who knows, with the way things are going, the need for easily identifiable assholes such as yourself may just become a premium within our lifetime.
This goes to show that even silicon when doped get high!
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I tried super-doping myself but it got boron after a while.
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High doping is the key to everything, man..
Yes, I understand the need for and value of pure science. Yes, I understand that new discoveries may take years or decades to have a commercial use.
So?
That doesn't make this news. The ability to make things superconduct at vanishingly low temperatures is nothing new.
Now, when this leads us to an understanding of the why and how behind superconductivity, _that_ will be news. When this leads us to something that superconducts at a temperature reachable by your average refrigeration system, _that_ will be news. Until then, this is simply business as usual in the world of research.
A small increase in transition temperature was the last thing we needed at this point. What little luck we had left was spent during the gravitational slingshot and none of us needed a glance at the holo-panel to know the ion shields had only minutes before a collapsed inner hull went from worry to worse.
Without saying it aloud, we all knew the survival of the ship...our survival...was totally dependent on staying out of sensor range for just a bit longer. The sub-orbital alerting buoys, with their grid-multiplied scan vectors and frequency-hopping proximity background energy detectors, had only to exert minimal effort before group consensus deemed us an unauthorized guest.
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Please! Since when everything is supposed to make sense only if it has tech applications? You seem to be missing the point of science really. The fact that doped silicon exhibit superconductivity is per se a great discovery. There are plenty of examples of "useless" science: black holes, dark matter, superfluidity. You may not care (busy playing your new PS3?). The rest of us really do.
people running around thinking that everything was controlled by some big booming voice in the sky
They are called radio waves. Rush Limbaugh's voice isn't really coming from the sky.
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"The only thing worse than an aggressively ignorant idiot is a foul-mouthed one."
Or an idiot chastising another idiot. So WTF is a "pure conductor" or a "pure insulator?" As far as anyone could tell, you might be referring to resistor.
That's a common misconception. Space has no temperature. It is neither cold nor hot. You must have a molecular medium to have a temperature. It's kinda analogues to the water pressure in an empty glass.
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You don't seem familiar with solid state physics. A 'pure conductor" is defined very well as a material where electrons are present in the conduction band, and weekly bounded to the core. A pure insulator has the conduction band empty. and a big band gap prevents electron from the valence band (closer to the core) to make the jump into the conduction band. Semiconductors are somewhere in between, they have a small gap so electron can effectively make the jump into the conduction band under specific conditions (by applying an external voltage for example). As we say in my country: "Before you talk, shut up" (and think).
substituting 9% of the silicon atoms with boron atoms, ...That means doping boron, not silicon.
I'm pointing out that in my opinion an ill informed idiot is also a pointlessly swearing idiot. A worthless argument suddenly carries weight and gets attention becuase it makes it look like strong feelings are involved - it looked to me like pointless swearing to get attention to a stupid argument. For some reason this made me think of marketing people creeping into slashdot hence the Moorlock bit - but that's just paranoia and predjudice.
So you are saying that all that is needed to attain absolute zero is a vacuum?
Nasty.
Now if I take a BiSiCuYt superconductor at a low temperature it superconducts, higher and it semiconducts, room temperature and it insulates. Why is this so? Has the mechanism behind superconductivity been worked out in the last couple of years when I wasn't paying attention - and can you explain it?
I've been watching too much of the original Battlestar Galactica. With their "centons", "sectons", "furlons", "crawlons", and of course "Cylons", when I saw the term boron, my first thought was that it was some sort of unit of boredom. Then I read the article, and realized I was right.
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"pointlessly swearing idiot"
I am going to ignore the name-calling you wielded in that same statement. Who says there has to be a point to swearing? In fact, last I checked this is supposed to be a new millennium staffed with new and improved intelligent human beings. An intelligent human will immediately dismiss the entire concept of 'swear' words, 'bad' words, and 'profanity' as illogical nonsense. Words can no more be profane or bad than guns can kill people. Words, Guns, Knives, Hammers, Racks, Hack Saws, Poisons, and Medicines are all inanimate objects incapable of motive. The tool bears no responsibility for the actions of the higher life form who wields it.
If you find yourself offended by the words of another I recommend you consider why. Is it the message being conveyed by the other you find offensive or the words themselves? Either way you need to evaluate whether those feelings are logically consistent and correct yourself if needed. Of course, if it is the words that offend you then logic will always lead to the conclusion that you need to correct yourself and dismiss the ignorant and merit-less moral notions passed down from the 50's.
"stupid argument"
Certainly, unlike your own educated and firmly supported arguments. You have proven that a declaration of the stupidity of another's argument is obviously a self-evident point requiring no support whatsoever. Clearly, arguments like these are of high caliber and should be credited with greater merit than those to which you were responding.
So I guess Pamela Anderson is more useful than we thought! Other than the obvious, of course. ;-)
An absolute vacuum, devoid of any matter or energy
Have you actually read the post this was in reply to? Now what do you think it was advocating and why do you think I object to that?
How do you extrapolate all this from three words? Most if not all of it is totally wrong - I can answer easily with a bit of name calling to save time - that I am offended by what I see as a loud attention seeking luddite that is using a bit of profanity to get that attention. All this pop sociology or whatever it is based on what is most likely a different country as well as a different time is somewhat missing the point.
Good idea - considering what you called Robert Cresanti.
I should finally point out what is spelt out above - that I said it was in my OPINION the person is a both an idiot and pointlessly swearing idiot. With just a few words there is little way to know if I am just some guy off the street or the moral crusader that bit your dog so hold on there. I object to what the poster said and the attention grabbing hence the comment - people should have objected more to the hint of the threat of cannibalism of this person by techies if they are really going to read so much into it.
We're forgetting the fact that we wouldn't be measuring the temperature of space, but the temperature of the conductive device in said space.
why do you think I object to that?Most likely a deep seated fear of being seen as not only weak minded but spiritually unfulfilled as well? No? Ummmm...let me think. I'll get it. Don't tell me! - Ah!! Sugar overdose coupled with chronic sleep deprivation on top of the fact that you lost your keys to the lock on your diary, in which case you have to wear your sister's soiled underwear for a month straight, then, right? :) Got to be better ways of getting attention in gym class, but whatever makes your mop flop...
is somewhat missing the pointPoint? You were trying to make a point...? Really? How does unsolicited e-chastisement tinged with disenfranchised gender identity indicate any type of point-making effort?
This character reminds me of him.
No. You are wrong. Read up about blackbody radiation. Space is like a big cavity with blackbody radiation that's about 3k. That's the thing about electromagnetic radiation - you don't need a medium. Let me make it clear... If you brought a piece of metal into space, would it keep cooling off by radiation? No. Why? Because at 3 kelvin space would be giving it as much energy as it is shedding. The pipe and space would be at an equilibrium state when the pipe reached 3 kelvin. You see how this is real temperature? Good.
If I understand Dirac correctly, his meaning is this: there is no God, and Dirac is his Prophet. -Pauli
So just what WOULD you use a superconducting biscuit for, anyway?
{Sorry, couldn't resist....}
Don't tell me to get a life. I'm a gamer; I have LOTS of lives!
Right on. Was just gonna say that, but you said it better.
I can do things I normally can't when I'm doped, too.
Property is theft.
Yep, but space has an almost infinite specific heat, so using it to super-cool things may take a while. Not to mention keeping it cool once it's up there, what with all that darn pesky solar radiation.
Life would be easier if I had the source code.
No. What he's saying is more like: temperature is a measure of the kinetic energy of the molecules/atoms in a substance. If there aren't any molecules, the temperuture is undefined.
If you take the ideal gas law and rearrange it, you get T = pV/nR. n is the number of moles, which in a vaccuum is zero.
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Silicon dopes you.
Life would be easier if I had the source code.
Only three things are certain; death, taxes, and apocryphal quotations - Ben Franklin.
...reading a post like that on Slashot: priceless!
Thanks.
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Lookey here. Now a three-letter agency (i.e. WOO - Wizard Of Oz) can get their quantum computers' components manufactured in any silicon wafer fab and used with cryogenic processor so that they can break hard ciphers and read your PGP-ed mail, so watch out!
I predict this is going to go mainstream quite fast (as soon as TLA's assess how wide is advantage margin they can keep on the rest of us). Superconducting CPU's will have virtually no dissipation, so if you keep them well thermally isolated, their energy expenditure will consist almost solely of the work needed to pull out the heat that crept into the system through thermal insulation. At some level of processing power, that breaks even with classical electronic computers and further on cryocomputers will be hands-down winners.
Now, main question is how fast can cryogenic generators get miniaturized for household application (desktop computers)? I guess in the end they will fit the form factor of today's PSUs. Due to dissipation differences discussed above, we'll probably not need to upgrade them as often as we do now (only if case volume is increased, which will probably never happen, due to ever advancing miniaturization) but OTOH, their service life will probably be shorter, because of the moving parts and strain. Those will be the most delicate parts of new computers...
Second by urgency is how to adapt assembling technology for very low temperatures? For one, PCB's wave superconducting-challenged copper goodbye! Alumin(i)um is likely the new king of the tracks, but it solders not, so new simple, Al-Al connecting, technology is wanted ASAP. My guess is on some kind of (super)conducting glues which will have to be invented if they aren't already, or on some special kind of flux which will disolve Al-oxide on solder-melting temperature. Oh, and, base for PCB will have to match closely thermal properties to Al instead of Cu, in much wider temp range then today's. FR-4 was good for Cu, perhaps because of fiberglass, but I'm not sure if it will be good as well for Al ( especially all the way down to 0.3K ).
So far, it is all about hardware, but most astonishing change will be shift from bits to qubits. At first, probably every program we've got will map just fine onto quantum computers, but they are capable of doing more and we will all have to learn about it, about these new computing paradigms and to use them in new programs. For all of you math geniuses out there now is the time to step in ranks of great names of computing!
people have had profanity, cursing, coarse language etc for thousands of years, it isn't just some thing that was made up recently. Words have meaning, and if that meaning is to do with bodily parts or functions, and the words are generally used in a derogatory manner, then of course the words themselves can generate emotions. It's not illogical. What exactly is the point in swearing if it becomes socially acceptable anyway? Extra verbs/adjectives for those that don't want to learn a proper variety of more useful and descriptive ones?
which is totally what she said
Not really. No one makes a 300K->.35K cooling device. Put simply, you take a 3K->.35K refrigerator and set it inside a 300K->3K refrigerator. Since any lab or plant that is doing this sort of work already has the 300K->3K unit, using said unit is a trivial addition to the process of using the new "low temp" unit.
Damn, I guess this water cooling system isn't going to cut it for my next upgrade.
Refridgeration methods that reach this temperature cost ~ $100,000 and use the helium-3 isotope as the working fluid, which costs several hundred dollars per gaseous liter at STP.
You can get a He3 system (which will get you down to ~0.25-0.3K with very little work) for just under $50k, and since it's a closed system you don't have to buy any more helium-3.
As a low temperature physicist, I have a hard time thinking of 0.35 K as unbeliveably cold. That's the temperature I get when my dilution refrigerator has a heat leak (and my fridge is not very good). Good dilfridges can get down to 0.015K or so, but they require more TLC than a He3 system.
That's a common misconception.
At least a misconception that NASA also publishes.
Quote: "If we put a thermometer in darkest space, with absolutely nothing around, it would first have to cool off. This might take a very very long time. Once it cooled off, it would read 2.7 Kelvin. This is because of the "3 degree microwave background radiation." No matter where you go, you cannot escape it -- it is always there."
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Oh, I don't know about that. Imagine a pair of enhanced breasts, little stalactites of ice hanging from the nipples, provocatively visible through a lace bra made of advanced insulation, while thousands of amperes surge through the underlying silicone with virtually no loss at all. It'd be like... the "mother's milk of power!"(tm)
I, for one, welcome our super-conducting silicone overlordettes. Show me the evidence, and I will believe!
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Some years ago, evidence for superconductivity was found in a gallium arsenide epitaxial device. The work was duly published, and only some time later was it realised that the superconductivity was occurring in metallic indium on the back of the device - the indium had been used as a good thermal conductor for mounting the GaAs substrate in the epitaxial growth chamber, and had not been completely removed.
If these guys have done their work carefully, they will have gone to great lengths to ensure that they really are measuring doped silicon, and not boron-rich precipitates, which might be formed at these very high boron doses.
In space the temperature is very close to 0K. Maybe we can build some really fast computers and put them in orbit.....
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We've been able to create chips with Niobium implanted in silicon for quite a while, and Niobium superconducts at similar temperatures
This sig wasn't worth reading, was it.
"Extra verbs/adjectives for those that don't want to learn a proper variety of more useful and descriptive ones?"
Note to self. A random individual on Slashdot nick'd as somersault is the ultimate authority on the English language and utility of the words contained therein. All must refer to his vast wisdom before using a verb or adjective to determine if that word is of the proper variety and worthwhile utility.
"then of course the words themselves can generate emotions. It's not illogical."
If someone routinely slams bedroom door in face then the door may be a trigger that stirs your emotion and offense. That hardly makes being angry with the door logical or valid. You should be angry with the person slamming the door in your face, not the door itself.
Liquid nitrogen is only 77K. No where near cold enough.
Really crap example :) Words hold meaning. It isn't so common for a door to evoke emotion, but it could remind someone of anger and make them sad, in the situation you describe.
I'm glad you respect my authority, though I must admit I only know how to use the language rather than knowing the in depth mechanics of it. Swearing shouldn't be a requirement of good communication, personally (and I've just now come to this opinion while thinking of the situations where I hear the most swearing, and the people doing the swearing) to be some form of defense mechanism (I know a couple of 50-60 year old guys that love to swear every second word, it's like they're trying too hard to fit in or something). It also can just help to vent emotions though.
Typing all this on my phone :s lol
which is totally what she said
The MRI machines use super-conducting material cooled with liquid nitrogenUmm...no. MRI's are cooled with liquid helium. Much colder, and much more expensive. I used to work for an industrial gas company and we serviced several MRI centers. It was always a time-critical thing: as long as you kept liquid HE in them, they would stay cold. If an MRI runs out (delivery truck late or some such thing) it takes a lot more to bring the magnet back down to the right temp.
Helium is freakin' expensive too. We would go to extraordinary measures in order to keep a magnet from quenching because we were on the hook for the cost of cooling it back down again if we missed a delivery.
See this post: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=208030&cid=169 61506
"Really crap example :)"
Maybe it was a lame example, but it fits neatly enough.
"Words hold meaning."
You are confusing the words with the things they represent. Words are groupings of sounds. They are attributed meaning, they don't actually have any intrinsic meaning of their own. For example, the words 'shit', 'crap', and 'excrement' all have the same meaning. All three words convey the same thing, none is any more 'proper' or 'descriptive' as you put it a couple posts ago. Yet I listed them in the order of perceived offensiveness. Are you really going to continue to claim that there is actually some form of logic that would INNATELY chose one of those groupings of sound over another?
But the door is just a pawn in this maniacal game! The real culprit... IS THE HINGES!
Will this make my dial up connection faster?
I'm in to sadism, bestiality and necrophilia. Am I flogging a dead horse?
Nope, not the groupings of sound, but most words are assigned a meaning which your brain immediately gets when it hears or thinks the word (I tend to have words in my head when I think, don't know about you). It's illogical to directly compare a word, primary function conveying meaning, to a door, primary function getting through walls.
It's a bit stupid, but when I think of shit I think of something that smells more than crap, probably because I used to hear the phrase dogshit quite a lot, so physically it's more repulsive to me anyway. Crap I think of as any dried crud like mud, even though it essentially means the same as shit. I'm not sure if words can innately sound more offensive (maybe there are some psychological studies that have looked into it), it's usually the tone that people use with them. It doesn't seem beyond the realms of possibility that certain words are just more fun or easy to say (fuck and shit both seem to start with a soft sound and roll up to a nice crisp forceful end), and therefore more likely to be used as swears. Like I find the word 'pants' funny for some reason, as do a lot of brits, and we regularly say 'oh pants'. Maybe that makes more sense over here because we call underwear pants, and therefore the word has slightly risqué connotations (though I think of the north american pants too whenever I hear the word pants).
which is totally what she said
Is that like a jump-to-conclusions mat?
At this point in the discussion I believe our differing views really boil down to semantics. You are really saying that a word's meaning can be offensive and do not see the word and the meaning as separate things because the purpose of a word is to express meaning. I being more utilitarian believe that a word as a separate entity from the meaning because it is separate from a technical view (a word is a grouping of sounds and need not have a fixed meaning or even be coherent) and because it is a more flexible stance.
If I am speaking to a friend and an elderly woman overhears me say "Fuck man, I don't think we should go to that piece of shit assembly anyway."; she might then choose to be offended and will have made a choice that is not valid from the view of logic. She might even take an action, complaining to the storekeeper or slapping me. I can review the history of language and discover roots that have led to her emotional response. Her offense can in that way be understood. But simply because something can be understood does not make it logical and taking action due solely to an emotional response is always illogical.
I can understand various popular religions and why people believe in them. If someone makes a statement that fails to give them reverence it evokes strong emotion. That doesn't mean it is not illogical to take on religious views without first following a chain of solid logic and evidence that concludes in that belief. Understanding and empathy do not change that it is illogical to speak or act based solely upon emotion or based upon a line of thinking that at any point uses the word 'feel' in an emotional sense. 'I did 'x' because after speaking with him he seemed honest enough' would be an example we can all relate to and yet is something that clearly illustrates an example of an illogical course of action and thought.
Of course there are, but this isn't one of them.
Which is not to say that the result is uninteresting, but the idea that you're going to pop gadgets based on this technology inside of MRI machines is a little ahead of it's time.
I thought they'd already incorporated high temperature superconductors into MRI's.
I agree with you, though I think the phrase "That doesn't mean it is not illogical" has some redundant logic ;)
which is totally what she said