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Hans Reiser to Sell Company
DVega writes "Due to increasing legal costs, murder suspect Hans Reiser is seeking to sell his company. His lawyer William DuBois said he is running out of money to pay for his defense. DuBois added, 'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.' This is a good opportunity to own a filesystem and rename it after your own."
AeroFS.. I bet that would bring a lawsuit from Microsoft..
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DuBois added, 'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.'
There's one hell of a joke about lawyers being vultures themselves, unfortunately the fact that a lawyer of all people said this has rendered my brain unable to make it.
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Death-Hallow File System, natch.
CowboyNealFS?
er, couldn't you just fork it and rename it whatever you want for free?
When Lucas makes a movie about this, be sure to wear your "Hans shot first" t-shirts.
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to make a killing.
If he turns out to be innocent, it will be just that much sadder -- he will have lost his wife and be ruined. A justice system that is so where money often plays such a key role in influencing the outcome is a very disfunctional justice system.
and that's not pennies on the dollar. Oh wait, it's actually pennies.
"I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey
FFS!
People will pass up steak once a week, for crap every day.
As a company owner, this thing is so sad. But on the techinical aspect, ReiserFS has better numbers in i/o, read and write that ext3, but many, many times, the way Hans conducts himself, lead to more and more people running away from ReiserFS.
Novell have just switched from reiser to ex3 at opensuse 10.1 or 10.2, I can't remember well, and this was the last "mayor" distribution supporting it. Any way, his company was loosing value, even more, his company is more like a one man company that a group of people. I doubt Namesys has CMMI, or follows any structured development strategy, so, buying a company whos best product is the sole creation of his owner is a very, very bad move.
I hope he gets some money for his company.
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I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
I think someone from slashdot needs to step up and confess to this murder. ReiserFS is a hell of a filesystem ... I would do it myself but I have an alibi. So who wants to be our patsy?
Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley
Perhaps he might get more takers and a higher price if the proceeds from the sale were used to set up a trust for his kids. They don't have a mother and their father will probably be in prison until he dies. Human buyers will make a more emotional connection with helping his kids than they will helping the defense of a murder suspect.
Reiser was arrested Oct. 10 after the Oakland Police Department found small drops of blood in his house and on his Honda CRX.
I'm not sure I'd want to buy a company from someone driving a Honda CRX...
"If you think you have things under control, you're not going fast enough." --Mario Andretti
Well, DOS is an Operating System. ReiserFS is a FILEsystem.
If you mean Windows should drop NTFS, purchase this, rebrand it and have it ready for Vista's release, than i think you're either trolling or a little naive.
heh, maybe Hans was in deals to sell it to MS (WinFS), but his concience ate away at him, and he ultimately refused. In return, they killed his wife, and now they get their FS on the CHEAP!
This is not the greatest
Can they actually prosecute a homicide with no body?
What would happen if he were convicted, and then Ms. Reiser shows up?
How can you claim someone is guilty of murder before you have declared the
victim is dead? Or if the victim is dead, has life insurance been collected, for instance?
I really don't see how you can have "murder" without a body, remains of a body, or some specific claim as to how the body was disposed of.
On the other hand, I *can* see how you could justify holding such a suspect without bail, sort of.
He should, at a minimum, explain where the seat from his Honda can be found. Seems like that might clear up a few things. (They locate that seat, find it isn't covered with blood and bone fragments or whatever they expect to find... That sort of thing would be pretty embarrassing to the prosecution, I'd guess.)
Of course, if I were a betting man, my money would not exactly be riding on Hans' innocence. The car seat bothers me a lot. (The State of California is required to presume his innocence, but I am not, unless I happen to get called on his jury...)
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I can only add one comment to what's already been said with a quick prayer:
Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
You don't need Cochran, because he taught us the only technique that Hans needs: The Chewbacca Defense.
Hans, your only hope to strike back is to use the Chewbacca Defense and maybe then a new hope will rise upon your dark side of the story.
here comes the GoldenPalace.com file system
those guys will buy anything if it gets them a free bit of news/ pr
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The IToldYouNotToBotherMeWhenImCodingBitch file system.
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(for Open Journaled System, of course)
I'm collecting donations to buy reiserfs so I can release it under the GPL. Paypal me at mailto:slash@example.com!
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Lionel Hutz: Can you imagine what a world without lawyers would be like?
(Thought bubble with people from different cultures dancing around merrily in a circle while holding hands)
Lionel Huts: Uggggh.
I was thinking there was a REALLY bad-taste joke in there somewhere.
You know - If the vultures are circling, it's 'cos there's a corpse nearby.
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell
...I read topics of people having various non-eating related cookbooks in their homes on Slashdot, and each time this is referred to as "innocent reading material" (or something along those lines) rather than a prelude to terrorism - even though the police could view it in that way when someone is arrested on related charges.
The finding of this book (I'm not talking about other findings) and supposing any connection of this book to the murdering is therefore kind of not-Slashdot like : he could just have been generally interested in murder, perhaps a big CSI fan or something ?
It's supporting evidence at most.
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If a body was required for murder, well hell it'd be rather easy to get away with murder wouldn't it? Just make sure the body was disposed of in a way such that it could be found and you'd never have to worry.
It's called a circumstantial case and while it's the weakest kind and not what the prosecution likes bringing, it can be successfully made. Basically you show that all the circumstances point to murder, and that there's not a reasonable alternate explanation.
Same kind of case they tried, and failed, to make against OJ Simpson.
It's actually more common than you'd think. Usually, in a case with direct evidence it never goes to trial. If the prosecution has the body, the bullet from it, the gun, and your fingerprints on the gun you almost certainly aren't getting out of that. However if the evidence is circumstantial, well then all you've got to do is convince one person in twelve that it is reasonable to doubt that you did it and you aren't going to jail.
Besides the grammar problems.. i use reiser 3.6 as my home partition's filesystem and although i'm not a power user
(i didn't nor i have investigated how to tweak the filesystem to squeeze the most out of it) i haven't any problem with it.
I don't think MS would be a good buyer for this technology (and as stated in some other comments, MS tend to prefer *stealing* the technology instead of buying it) both because they already have a fairly decent one (ntfs is _closed source_ but not _bad_) and because its PR like to let people think that they own the technology they sell, they always have and always will (i may be the average ignorant guy but i never heard of the companies that originally developed hyper terminal or MS anti-spyware before MS bought those).
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What did she actually do? Can you summarize?
Disclaimer: IANAL. This post is, however, legal advice, and creates an attorney-client relationship.
I wonder if one of the questions will be, "What operating system do you use?"
Reisers attorney, according to TFA:
>'This is a unique opportunity for someone to buy the company for pennies on the dollar. We welcome all vultures.
"vultures"? Funny words from the vulture bleeding him in the first place.
1 in 4 Maine children in struggle with hunger.
I seriously think MS should support more than 1 filesystem (FAT32 is dieing). This 1 filesystem to rule them all business is terrible. Linux has not trouble offering tons of file systems that are supported. I see no reason why windows couldn't support at least 3 or 4. The fact that windows is used everywhere from the home desktop right up to the enterprise servers means that using a single file system just doesn't make sense.
Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
ReiserFS, however, is a reality, and can do prettymuch what MS advertised with WinFS.
The whole point of WinFS is to extend the data orginization indexing and searching advantages of relational databases to your filesystem.
ReiserFS is a great journaling filesystem, but I don't believe it has anything to do with the concepts behind WinFS. I don't know how NTFS journaling compares to ReiserFS journaling, but NTFS does have journaling already.
Dude, welcome to linux. Windows has One File System(tm) because... it's easier. Linux has 129 filesystems because 129 different people think each one is the best at what it does.
I love linux, but sometimes too much choice is a bad thing. If linux was a car, there'd be 18 steering wheels and no air conditioning, but you'd be able to change the radio stations from the hubcaps.
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It would be cool if some sensible developers could get the money together, buy the company and Reiser4, and work with the kernel devs to get it made part of Linux.
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If Linux was a car.... You could open the hood, and change motor to what you like. You could change the steering wheel, and the pedals, and the seats, and the hood color.... etc... The windows wouldn't be electric so you know the hand crank would work every time, and not hang. The car would cost $20k and last 400k miles. It would work on any road. You would never have an accident.
Oh wait, that is a normal car....
If Windows was a car.... Your hood would be welded shut, and you couldn't work on the motor, much less change it out, the windows wouldn't work on voice command, but you could have the option of "Are you sure" before you roll up, or down the windows with a button. The Airbag would ask the same question as well. Your car would cost $300,000 and the motor would last 10k miles before you had to wipe it and reload the engine. Only the dealer could do this, and it would take 36 minutes, but would require a preliminary inspection that required the car to be flipped upside down, and the blue ray disk inserted. You would have to buy a new one to be compatible with the new roads every 5 years.
If MacOS were a car, you could do most of 1, but you would have to replace your car once every 2 years, but if you choose not to, then your radio stops working, but you will have the pleasure of knowing that although your car costs $50k, it will last 400k miles as well. (IE: A Volvo) Although you could get an extended warrenty for $2,390 a year called the AppleCar plan.
When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. - Jefferson
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Answer: Everest was the highest. We just didn't know it yet.
People are not innocent before proven guilty. They are presumed innocent by the justice system until proven guilty. Before the proof, they may be guilty or innocent, and a trial doesn't change that. (In fact, trials never find anyone "innocent"; they only find people "not guilty", and the presumption of innocence does the rest.)
One might think OJ was guilty, but the justice system must presume he was innocent because he was not legally proven guilty.
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Settle down there little doobie.
ReiserFS 3.x supports extended attributes (metadata) and ReiserFS 4.x supports that in spades with all sorts of database-like possibilities.
As for filesystems joining data with executables at the hip, all I have to say is it sounds a lot like OLE, ActiveX, etc. and I shudder to think how it might be abused.
What was this guy thinking ? Is he BLIND ? Did he not realize that just about every brilliant hacker is single for a reason ?! Women, all women, are totally insane! There is ample empirical evidence that shows that only intellectually challenged men can endure extended female companionship.
As young girls, they are taught that girls are smart and boys are stupid. See when a clever fella gets a woman, at first all is rosy, but over time the woman gets comfortable and that's where the power struggles begin. First the man will turn down alcohol and sex, favoring long nights of caffeine and code. This spites the woman, who retaliates by offering the same alcohol and sex to an ugly-ass close friend of the hacker. As the nonsense altercations grow in frequency, the clever male begins to apply his vast intellect to find a solution. Possessing above-average intellect, he starts to believe he can get away with murder, since he is far smarter than the common police detective. Woman is ground using a beowulf cluster of noisy Celeron CPU fans, then buried in the chassis of a nearby AS/400 mainframe. Hacker assumes he is home free.
Cops show up, ask "Hey where's your wife". Hacker says "She's went to fuck my ugly-ass friend four weeks ago". Cops pool their collective IQ and ultimately decide something is amiss.
All this crap could have been avoided if the hacker had ordered a replacement wife from Bride.ru. Then he could have said "My wife is right here, NOT dead in a mainframe and NOT fucking my ugly-ass friend". The cops would have celebrated this non-event with coffee and donuts and ReiserFS would live on as a crappy-ass attention-whoring unsupported agenda-driving filesystem.
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As a very close and personal friend of the Reiser family (I actually know Hans' father better than Hans himself, but that is besides the point), I find this whole episode showing the absolute worst in humanity on almost every level.
/. related to this issue. If you have the investigation team equivalent of a D.A. that is going through this with a fine tooth comb, you might be able to intelligently make your own semi-accurate conclusions as to his guilt. For the rest of us, perhaps if we follow this very, very closely, we might be able to see the actual evidence that is presented to the court and make a judgement similar to a jury member.
/. in this case) about what has happened, you are relying on deliberate misinformation and partial facts to come to a conclusion. Hardly the best way to come to any sort of judgement.
/. especially in this context.
This whole idea of speculating over his innocence or guilt is making me practically throw up each time I see news items here on
If you are relying upon what you are reading or hearing from the popular press (even
For myself, I see a very dear and personal friend who is going through a living nightmare in one way or another. A family that is litterally being ripped apart and a couple of kids that through no actions of their own are going to be permanently scarred emotionally over what the judicial system is doing to their family... even their extended family.
This is also in a small way economically affecting me personally, and I wish I had more money to send and help Hans out so he wouldn't have to go through this very drastic step.
At the same time, regardless of what happens, Hans' life in a sense is over and he is beginning something completely new from scratch. By selling the company he is also suggesting that perhaps it is time to move on with some other completely new project or even lifestyle.
I pray for the day that Hans will no longer be a major news item on
No, Linux has several file systems because there's no such thing as a perfect file system, and even if there were, it hasn't been achieved yet.
Each of the file systems out there has different strengths and weaknesses. If you need maximum reliability, you need a fully journaled file system (data and metadata), but you pay for that reliability in terms of performance. In most cases, you don't need that, but it is important that your file system not become corrupted by a power failure, or similar problem. For those, metadata journaling is enough. In yet other cases, raw speed is the goal, so journaling is a bad idea.
But speed vs. reliability is only one issue to consider. Another is space efficiency, particularly for systems that will have large numbers of small files. Most file systems use one disk block (e.g. 1KB) even for a 100-byte file. Others (like reiserfs) can pack small files together. But that efficiency introduces complexity, which can reduce reliability. So space efficiency vs. reliability is a consideration.
Another tradeoff is read performance vs. write performance. Yet another is performance of small files vs performance of large files. Yet another is reconfigurability -- can file systems be grown or shrunk in-place, perhaps even while in use? That's another tradeoff against complexity and the associated reduced reliability.
For the desktop user, it doesn't really matter. You'll notice little difference regardless of which file system you choose. But there are applications in which the choice of file system can make a significant difference in system performance, space efficiency, reliability, or flexibility.
Windows has One File System(tm) because... it's easier.No, Windows has one file system because Microsoft has never focused on technical excellence. Mediocrity is often an excellent business strategy, and it has certainly proven to be good to Microsoft, but that doesn't mean we can't have better.
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Yes, sometimes file system types can make a performance difference. Using ReiserFS is going to help out when you're doing stuff with lots of little files, yes. How much? I dunno. Will most people be happy with ext3? Yes, absolutely. ext3 will do pretty much everything you need it to do. However, when you choose a filesystem type in the fdisk menu on linux, there are literally this many: I'm not saying there aren't holes in my arguement, but... it's hard to deny that's a crapoload of filesystem types. Now, it's not Linux's fault (or GNU or whoever wrote fdisk) that there are that many options.
But this is a symptom of a greater problem in Linux - it's desire to be every thing to every one. And not in a "get on my bandwagon or get the fuck out" type scenario, like you have with Windows - but a location for everyone to dump any pet project that they have ever made, and eventually we have 43 window managers, 2 Xservers, 18 mail dameons, 97 web browsers, 9 different sets of wireless networking tools (none of which work for more than 3 chipsets), 812 shells, 14 IM clients, 84 Mp3 players, and four office suites. Boy, if you like choice, linux is the place to be. But, some of us find it a bit overwhelming at times (mainly, when "some of us" have to do desktop support for linux).
I can't help but wonder if all the people who are working on different, paralell projects pooled their efforts where Linux would be today.
And as I've been saying for 4 or 5 years now on Slashdot, all I ever wanted out of linux was a universal clipboard with a universal API for cutting and pasting. We now have windows that wobble with hardware accelerated graphics (FC6). Great. I'd like to be able to cut and paste.
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I love your comment. It's small and really to the point of the state of Linux and the community in general. I personally enjoy the GNU/Linux ecosystem but there are too many choices sometimes. It seems as if the trend is to start a new project/distro/fork whenever someone believes that they could make something better, faster, slimmer, etc... Don't get me wrong, I love the amount of choices but I would rather see more consolidation of efforts. Instead of making a new distro with minor changes/patches, contribute to a major one... etc... Sometimes it's as we are going in circles.
This is true, but only superficially. It is not like Linux "has" 129 filesystems, but it ***supports*** a lot of different file systems. So weather you want to access your NTFS windows partition or HFS MacOS disc you can do it. More or less every distribution out there will format your partitions as ext3 at install time by default. Windows on the other hand only supports two filesystems (not One File System) which are FAT32 and NTFS. So if I have a disk from my friend's iMac or linux box or solaris server or IRIX workstation or basically anything except windows, I will not be able to read it in windows whatever I do.
Everybody Lies. But it doesn't matter since nobody listens.
heh, maybe Hans was in deals to sell it to MS (WinFS), but his concience ate away at him, and he ultimately refused. In return, they killed his wife, and now they get their FS on the CHEAP!
How could you miss it. It's so *obvious*.
Hans didn't kill his wife...STEVE BALLMER DID!
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