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Robots to Crawl Under the City

Johan Louwers writes "Robots will crawl tubes in a short while to investigate power cables running in the tubes to make sure they are still undamaged or in need for a repair. The Robotic Cable Inspection System is developed by Alexander Mamishev, an assistant professor of electrical engineering at the University of Washington. Making use of infrared thermal analysis and acoustic partial discharge analysis, the robot will be checking mile after mile of cable while crawling his way in the tubes."

94 comments

  1. TUBES! by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

    Robots...

    Tubes...

    For a moment, I thought he was talking about the interweb!

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    1. Re:TUBES! by alexjohnc3 · · Score: 1

      If only it said Ted Stevens and not Alexander Mamishev...

    2. Re:TUBES! by Shads · · Score: 2, Funny

      For a moment there I thought we were talking the start of the matrix :P

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  2. Now we know by snarkth · · Score: 5, Funny

    How the Sentinels got their start.

      snarkth

    1. Re:Now we know by TubeSteak · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Now we know by snarkth · · Score: 1

      Well. Therefore I, for one, welcome our new sewer-crawling overlords. Obviously their evolution has been underway for a while already, even if this part of their PR efforts looks like it's slashdotted ;-)

        snarkth

    3. Re:Now we know by yosofun · · Score: 1

      robots'll be having lots and lots and lots of fun XD

    4. Re:Now we know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow this "I for one welcome..." post has been up a whole 15 hours without being modded up! You mean the /. moderators are finally getting sick of this shitty meme?

      And yes I'm AC'ing because I know there are too many of you out there that still enjoy Tron and the Macarena...

  3. Someone has to say it by Dachannien · · Score: 3, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new robotic underlords.

    1. Re:Someone has to say it by beckerist · · Score: 3, Funny

      THIS IS NOT FUNNY! And no, no one has to say it. This site is perpetually headed waaaaaay downhill, and has never been one for humor (at least humor of the current decade...)

    2. Re:Someone has to say it by beckerist · · Score: 3, Funny

      and no, I DON'T need to go AC to say this.

    3. Re:Someone has to say it by aqk · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, our robots make YOU crawl under city.

  4. Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "to make sure they are still undamaged or in need for a repair"

    What else could they possibly be? Do we need robots to make sure boolean variables are either 0 or 1, too?

    1. Re:Um? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "to make sure they are still undamaged or in need for a repair"
       
      What else could they possibly be? Do we need robots to make sure boolean variables are either 0 or 1, too? Nice catch -- I'm sure the writer meant to say "To determine whether they are still undamaged or in need for a repair and report back its findings."
    2. Re:Um? by suntac · · Score: 1

      That was what the writer meant to say ;-)

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    3. Re:Um? by rbarreira · · Score: 1

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  5. Damn... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now where are we humans going to hide when Skynet becomes active?

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    1. Re:Damn... by StringBlade · · Score: 1

      Don't you mean Tubenet?

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    2. Re:Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Inside our realistic-looking but hollowed out robot costumes?

    3. Re:Damn... by mgcady · · Score: 1

      Can we say, Domi arigato, Mr. Roboto? (ok, my spelling on that is probably *way* off)

  6. Identifiers? by Grey_14 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I would hope they would make them easy to identify and track, Imagine stumbling upon some weird robotic beasty that washed out of a storm drain and thinking it's the beginning of the robot revolution or something, Maybe they could just write "NOT EVIL" in magic marker or something, that would make ME feel better.

    1. Re:Identifiers? by prencher · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just make the components in google colours.

    2. Re:Identifiers? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

      Add an "I'm feeling lucky" button to really top off its "none-evilness".

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    3. Re:Identifiers? by snarkth · · Score: 1

      One can identify them, one just needs the proper RFID reader.

        s

    4. Re:Identifiers? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe they could just write "NOT EVIL" in magic marker or something, that would make ME feel better.

      How about "Don't Panic" in nice, friendly letters?

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    5. Re:Identifiers? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

      Great. Thanks for the post. Now, when the robots do start taking over, they'll know just what to do so that we don't suspect anything.

    6. Re:Identifiers? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      How about "Don't Panic" in nice, friendly letters?

      With Comic Sans MS as font, naturally.

    7. Re:Identifiers? by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1
      Just make the components in google colours.

      Considering where the robots will be crawling, I think they're more likely to have a Zune inspired color scheme.

    8. Re:Identifiers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about no red LEDs on these robots. That way they won't turn evil. ;)

  7. insufficiently damaged for repair by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Between the realm of 0 and 1 lies the vast land known as Round-Off Error.

    1. Re:insufficiently damaged for repair by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      Uh, no. Between 0 and 1 you have statistics, damn statistics, and politicians.

  8. Will this work in the real world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hear these horror stories of dealing with the chaos of tranmission lines running under cities. Can the robots really navigate these spiderwebs or do they need special conditions? From the look of this thing you would need straight lines, plenty of clearance, and two rails running next to each transmission line.

    1. Re:Will this work in the real world? by baldass_newbie · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the look of this thing you would need straight lines, plenty of clearance, and two rails running next to each transmission line.

      Good point. In Philly as late as the 1960's there were portions of the water line that were running through hollowed out tree trunks. Seriously.
      I can't see this being of any use in a town like Philly. Read this story about a recent underground explosion and you'll know what I mean.

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    2. Re:Will this work in the real world? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1
      In Philly as late as the 1960's there were portions of the water line that were running through hollowed out tree trunks. Seriously.

      Not really that shocking, nor confined to Philly. NYC had wooden piping as late as the early 90s. Possibly even today.

      -b.

    3. Re:Will this work in the real world? by gaber1187 · · Score: 2, Informative
      You're right, the real world is a messy place--lots of underground transmission lines are just plopped down into a big tray and are not very accessible to just about any method that would inspect the quality of the insulation. However, with very little effort utilities can make lines more amenable to inspecting lines with this robot.


      But being able to deal with pretty difficult situations is a problem for robotics, and we like tough robotics problems, so its definitely doable. I'm in the same research lab working for Prof. Mamishev as these guys, and they are definitely thinking about lots of ways to deal with the chaotic wiring problem. Things like the little spiders of Minority Report would be ideal for getting into tough spots, but who knows, maybe we'll see that sooner rather than later... stay tuned...

      One guy from our lab who did a bunch of work on this is also starting his own company based on some walking robots... not sure if the company is started yet--they kind of look like spiders...

    4. Re:Will this work in the real world? by jcurran · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've seen underground power cables in the Boston area, and at least in the ones I saw, there was no tray, just lots of serious support ironwork. Additionallly, there was no nice clean lit walkway on the side as in the video. The problem that I see is that the places that its hardest to visually inspect are just the circumstances that these robots would be handiest, and that's exactly the circumstances that they'll have the most problems navigating.

    5. Re:Will this work in the real world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps it would be shocking to find that your comment did nothing to make me like you more or hate you less.

    6. Re:Will this work in the real world? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Perhaps it would be shocking to find that your comment did nothing to make me like you more or hate you less.


      Who are "you" and why are you hiding behind an Anon. Coward profile? Oh wait, you're a troll. Go back under your bridge, boy. Some of us want to be able to eat without viewing your ugly mug.


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    7. Re:Will this work in the real world? by PPH · · Score: 1

      I've seen underground power cables in the Boston area, and at least in the ones I saw, there was no tray, just lots of serious support ironwork. Additionallly, there was no nice clean lit walkway on the side as in the video. The problem that I see is that the places that its hardest to visually inspect are just the circumstances that these robots would be handiest, and that's exactly the circumstances that they'll have the most problems navigating.


      True. And that (Boston) probably isn't the worst case. Our utilities install cable either direct buried or in conduit. It isn't laid out neatly in a tray.


      The robot will work quite well in the University of Washington, where the utilities are installed in these beautiful, clean utility tunnels (your education tax dollars at work), but they (the robot developers) would have been better off working on a technology like embedding sensing fiber optics into the cables themselves. Or something like a sensing cable that could be strung into a conduit with the power cables. Either could be interrogated with OTDR equipment to locate anomalies.

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    8. Re:Will this work in the real world? by neimon · · Score: 1

      You don't wanna clean nothin' in Philly. That dirt, it's STRUCTURAL.

    9. Re:Will this work in the real world? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yowch, burn! you got hitt witt OffTopic.

  9. Horror by SinGunner · · Score: 4, Funny
    This sounds like a bad horror-movie plot. Next they'll start coming up from the ground in some old people's home and killing everyone, and then the police get called in to investigate, but they just can't tell what the hell happened. Then more isolated incidents start to occur which leads the main character and his expendable co-stars into the dark abandoned subway tunnels to search for this menace from the underneath!

    The final scene involves a huge explosion or EMP burst that destroys all the robots but also leaves everyone in the sewer in complete darkness. Cut, print, that's a wrap. Where's my money?

    1. Re:Horror by plover · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next they'll start coming up from the ground in some old people's home and killing everyone

      Nah, they won't kill old people, they'll just eat their medicine for fuel. Besides, I've got my life insurance policy from Old Glory Insurance so I feel safe, even though the robots may strike at any time.

      Old Glory Insurance. For when the metal ones decide to come for you - and they will.

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    2. Re:Horror by SinGunner · · Score: 1

      I hear that when they grab you with those metal claws, you can't break free, because they're made of metal, and robots are strong.

  10. Robots good at checking pipes by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    The SMART PIG is used to check on gas pipes. It saves a fortune on using the old, dumb pigs that they used to have to force through the pipes to inspect/clean them prior to the invention of Magnetic Flux Leakage techniques.

    There is a pretty good SMART PIG display at the Manchester Sci/Tech museum (free) with an actual 80's vintage inspection unit donated by British Gas.

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    1. Re:Robots good at checking pipes by dangitman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but can it fly?

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    2. Re:Robots good at checking pipes by hachete · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but can it fly? No, but it make insightful +5 comments every time
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    3. Re:Robots good at checking pipes by Nick+Number · · Score: 1

      So when do we get the SMART borscht and SMART cake?

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  11. at least someone's checking them by macadamia_harold · · Score: 1

    Making use of infrared thermal analysis and acoustic partial discharge analysis, the robot will be checking mile after mile of cable while crawling his way in the tubes.

    Well, since they're checking the tubes, maybe they can find the internet that Ted Stevens' staff sent him last Friday. It's all tangled up in there.

    1. Re:at least someone's checking them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      acoustic partial discharge analysis

      I take this to mean the robots fart and then listen for echoes. Much like me in a bar while it empties rapidly. At New Years, I plan to selectively make ceiling balloons pop, in time to Auld Lang Syne. Live in fear and awe, robots. We metahumans have powers far beyond your puny metal capabilities.

  12. Sounds good by Swimport · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a good idea. But I bet theyll lose a lot of robots, especially in old cities like boston/new york.

  13. Great by aldo.gs · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    "...while crawling his way in the tubes."
    Now we will have to wait more time for our internets to arrive.
  14. Computerized Heuristic Underground Detectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C.H.U.D.

  15. Finally! by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    We desperately NEED something to keep the tubes clear. Sometimes it takes a whole WEEK for an Internet to get to me!

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    1. Re:Finally! by bubbl07 · · Score: 1

      We already have robots in our internet tubes! Sometimes, though, it's not for the best, damn googlebot!

  16. The Cousins of the Sewer Robots by MightyMait · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here in Santa Cruz, we're currently using robots to inspect our sewers. My buddy made a TV show (on Community TV--like Public Access) of the raw footage from the sewer robot set to soothing music. Must-see TV!!

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    1. Re:The Cousins of the Sewer Robots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Mexico City they do the same thing except instead of using robots they use Mexicans.

    2. Re:The Cousins of the Sewer Robots by RedOregon · · Score: 1

      Seems to me that robots have been crawling the Alaskan oil pipelines for decades, too...?

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  17. Oblig by Mogster · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I for one welcome our new robotic Over^H^H^H^H err Underlords!

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  18. Deus Ex by imunfair · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the repair spiders in Deus Ex. Now all we have to do is equip them with weapons and they can hunt sneaky terrists. Funny how all the classic conspiracy theories/times leading up to bad things in history are mirrored in our current societal situation. Makes you wonder if the signs always foreshadow the bad things, or if there are times where the crisis was averted and history just doesn't remember them.

    1. Re:Deus Ex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm. I don't know. I was thinking more of Floyd the Droid for the Commodore 64. Now if they could just make the robots say "BOO!" to scare off sewer rats and the occasional masked fugitive from justice..

  19. Robots in Tubes? by TooFarGone · · Score: 2, Funny

    If these robots can go into tubes, maybe when the internets are clogged they can help us out?

    1. Re:Robots in Tubes? by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, of course! This is Senator Ted Stevens' solution to the quake damage in East Asia!

      The submitter must have forgotten to include that bit......

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  20. *sigh* by joe_cot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not a paid member; can someone please tag this story "ReallyBadInternetJokeBait"?

  21. Only the beginning by SmlFreshwaterBuffalo · · Score: 3, Funny

    Great, how long before they start using similar robots to check your prostate?

    (Ha! You thought this was going to be another reference to The Matrix/Terminator, didn't you?)

    1. Re:Only the beginning by CrackerJackz · · Score: 1

      How about a Total Recall one?

      "Don't worry; it's self guiding. Just shove real hard. When it crunches, you're there."

        (and yes I know the movie was dealing with the other end of the human anatomy)

    2. Re:Only the beginning by butterwise · · Score: 0

      how long before they start using similar robots to check your prostate? You mean they don't? Guess I better find a new doctor...
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  22. Animals in the sewers by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 1
    Yeah, those nanites are cute when they come home from the County Fair in a little static-free bag. Then they get bigger and you flush them down the toilet.

    Next thing you know, sewers are crawling with Hunter-Killers.

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  23. You can do it at home too by Chairboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last year, my webpage describing how I did something similar (but spectacularly cheaper with the commensurate drop in ability) using some off the shelf electronics and an R/C toy was featured here on Slashdot, my first slashdotting!

    http://hallert.net/misc/tankcam/tankcam.html

    There are other crawlspaces out there, get under your houses and make your own robots do your bidding!

    1. Re:You can do it at home too by bishiraver · · Score: 1

      You should do it again, but use this infrared webcam hack so you don't have to have all that damn light! :D

      http://www.hackaday.com/2005/03/14/make-an-infrare d-webcam/

  24. What'd be really neat... by fussili · · Score: 3, Insightful

    is if they leeched power from the cables at open nodes in the system and just roamed on a set path at all times.

    Autonomous little service droids, keeping everything working - now that's the future.

    1. Re:What'd be really neat... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      To build on your idea, instead of a set path, they should roam intelligently based on the history of the utility network. Areas that have required more maintenence in the past should be passed over/inspected more often then those areas which have required less maintenence.

  25. In tubes? by mrbarkeeper · · Score: 0

    In tubes?? Get those friggin robots outa my internets!

  26. Too bad they can't train rats.. by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Too bad they can't train rats to do this. They're ubiquitous in cities, they run off readily available biomass fuel, and they automaticly replace themselves when they wear out. Of course, I'm being facetious. Really, it would be nice if the robots could be programmed to kill rats too.

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    1. Re:Too bad they can't train rats.. by liquid_rince · · Score: 0

      What? You don't like rats?

      I think rats are one of the cutest pets you can get. Some people even post vids of them.
      Video of some pet rats

  27. Holy SHite! by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    Sarah and Neo are gonna be pissed!

  28. Robots, tubes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Robots will crawl tubes in a short while to investigate power cables running in the tubes to make sure they are still undamaged or in need for a repair."

    So that's why my connection is so slow ... the tubes are clogged with wires!

  29. This... by dr_strang · · Score: 1

    ...is how it begins, you know that right?

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  30. Re:What'd be really neat...not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever seen Minority Report and that little robotic spiders were unleashed in an apartment building? The spiders interrupted various activities of the people in the building (of which a few should be unnecessary to directly name) an example being people taking a bath. I suppose you would consider that *neat*. I good sir, do not, that's an invasion of privacy.

  31. equal opportunity! by swell · · Score: 1

    .

    "checking mile after mile of cable while crawling his way in the tubes."
    Why does it have to be a male robot?

    Don't anthropomorphize robots--they hate it when you do that.

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    1. Re:equal opportunity! by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      checking mile after mile of cable while crawling his way in the tubes.

      You missed the more important part. Does he even *know* that he was volunteered for this task? Or he was simply not at that meeting?

      Oddly enough, today's post was brought to you by the captchka 'drills'. Those sentinels!

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  32. This will never fly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Electrician's Union will never let this machine see the light of day...

    American Unions! Keeping Americans Employed! Hoora!

  33. Ah, the classics... by Acheron · · Score: 1

    It's that time again!

    As many of you know, each year the Internet must be shut down for 24 hours in order to allow us to clean it. The cleaning process, which eliminates dead email, inactive ftp and www sites, and empty USENET groups, allows for a better working and faster Internet tubes.

    This year the cleaning process will take place from 12:01 a.m. GMT on April 1 until 12:01 a.m. GMT on April 2 (the time least likely to interfere with ongoing work). During that 24-hour period, five powerful tube-cleaning robots situated around the world will search the tubes and delete any data that they find....

  34. Gender specific robots. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... while crawling his way in the tubes." His? Bots with schlongs inspecting the bowels of civilization. Sounds like recreational proctology meets SimCity. I scan my own groceries. The Future is NOW!

  35. Wait a sec.. by Dersaidin · · Score: 1

    All these posts about Skynet, Robot overlords... etc. Yes they're posting for mod funny, but really, this is just another use for our current technology. Theres nothing new in the way of AI here. I for one welcome the new model of robot slaves...

  36. They are coming... by TheCybernator · · Score: 1

    ...They are coming fast
    and they are hungry

    the tube-eating sewer robots!!

  37. That was surprising... by Sowelu · · Score: 1

    I worked under Prof. Mamishev on a different robotics project a couple years back, but heard about this one in class. Took me by surprise to see this on Slashdot, but it always looked like an awesome project.

  38. If I Could Write a Book About This..., by berenixium · · Score: 1

    "They came for the children late at night, while parents slept blissfully unaware. They were never heard from again..."

  39. First comes the Boomers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Then come the Knight Sabers!!

    mmmmm, babes in Hard Suits!

  40. Oh Noes!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new robotic underlords.

    Oh No! Now old people cannot even bury their medicine in their backyards anymore. These new spelunking robots will still find the medicine and eat it for fuel!

  41. Interesting by Barima · · Score: 1

    Hmmmm.... interesting.