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Formula For Procrastination Found

kandela writes "Science Daily reports that a University of Calgary academic has published a paper titled The Nature of Procrastination: A Meta-Analytic and Theoretical Review of Quintessential Self-Regulatory Failure in the Psychological Bulletin. The research reveals that most people's New Year's resolutions are doomed to failure, most self-help books have it completely wrong when they say perfectionism is at the root of procrastination, and procrastination can be explained by a single mathematical equation. The research is apparently the culmination of 10 years work. However, no indication was given of how much time was spent putting it off before it was begun." From the article: "Essentially, procrastinators have less confidence in themselves, less expectancy that they can actually complete a task... Perfectionism is not the culprit. In fact, perfectionists actually procrastinate less, but they worry about it more."

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  1. That's great! by Vengeance · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have to remember to read it later.

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    1. Re:That's great! by AoT · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, it's like they say, hard work may pay off later, but procrastination pays off now.

      P.S. I would've gotten first post, but I kept putting it off and putting it off.

    2. Re:That's great! by genesus · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Never put off till tomorrow, what you can do the day after tomorrow."

    3. Re:That's great! by jginspace · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I have to remember to read it later."

      No worries, the dupe'll be around in a couple of days.

    4. Re:That's great! by williamhb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Tenagers rejoice -- now whenever your parents ask why you haven't tidied your room, you can give them the formula and tell them to work it out for themselves.

    5. Re:That's great! by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can't find the thread anymore, but this is in response to the criticism about DOS 2.0. While the file system inprovements aren't perfect, they are much better than 1.1. Now we can use hard disks along with the 360KB floppies. I've seen some as big at 10MBs.

    6. Re:That's great! by esmoothie · · Score: 5, Funny

      "procrastination is like masturbation: it's all good until you realized that you just fucked yourself"

    7. Re:That's great! by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny
      You can't fix self confidence with a calendar and a rubber band.

      McGuyver could do it with a broken rubber band & the month of February.
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    8. Re:That's great! by eyendall · · Score: 2, Funny

      Procrastinate now, don't put it off.

    9. Re:That's great! by LearnToSpell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Masturbation's way better - you're fucking yourself now AND you're fucking yourself later.

    10. Re:That's great! by LordEd · · Score: 2

      Sounds like the despair poster

  2. I was going to submit this story months ago by Timesprout · · Score: 2, Funny

    but just didnt get around to doing it.

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  3. HD-DVD keys by teamhasnoi · · Score: 4, Funny
    The movie industry is going to master a bunch of different versions of every movie, with different keys in each - hoping that it will stem the tide of 'piracy'. I don't think it's going to work.

    I wanted to post this in the last story, but I just got around to it now.

  4. Re:What the TFA is about? by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll get back to you on that one...

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  5. Old news by i_should_be_working · · Score: 3, Funny

    A law for procrastination was found centuries ago.

  6. Quite a title there by Arramol · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A Meta-Analytic and Theoretical Review of Quintessential Self-Regulatory Failure" - sounds like something out of Calvin and Hobbes. "The Dynamics of Interbeing and Monological Imperatives in Dick and Jane: A Study in Psychic Transrelational Gender Modes."

    1. Re:Quite a title there by Masato · · Score: 3, Funny

      Although I've already seen at least one post to PhD comics, I figured I'd post another since it fits your title so well: Thesis Titles

  7. Uhh, the opposite for me by amplusquem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Essentially, procrastinators have less confidence in themselves, less expectancy that they can actually complete a task... Perfectionism is not the culprit. In fact, perfectionists actually procrastinate less, but they worry about it more."

    I procrastinate because I HAVE confidence that I can finish the task later, not because I'm afraid that I won' actually be able to complete a task. If I'm afraid about finishing a task, I will start it earlier. Fear of not being able to complete a task leads to NOT doing that task for a lot of people, not procrastinating.

    These "scientific studies" over analyze simple things such as procrastination. Ever think that maybe it's because of laziness, or just that you really want to watch that football game?

    1. Re:Uhh, the opposite for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Procrastinators have less confidence in the ability of their co-workers to complete a task on time (and correctly). Procrastination is a survival skill for talented employees of large corporations. If you're gung-ho and get the job done quickly, you must do it all over again when the specifications change a week before the delivery date. If you have "slack time", you must fix the mess the department screw-ups made of their assignments (all the while remaining a "team player" and saying nothing about the wretched pile of shit you're facing and the idiots who caused it.). If you get straight to work on the project, you'll see all that effort wasted when the "market window" mysteriously vanishes and the project gets cancelled. Procrastination in such a working environment is a rational response to adverse working conditions, not a character flaw.

      Better post A/C on this one: I have a family to support!

  8. At least in my case, totally wrong. by pla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Essentially, procrastinators have less confidence in themselves, less expectancy that they can actually complete a task... Perfectionism is not the culprit. In fact, perfectionists actually procrastinate less, but they worry about it more.

    I procrastinate. Hard-core. I'll put off week-long tasks until the night before. I don't do this because I expect to fail and can blame starting too late - I do it because I know perfecly well that I can do that and still finish the task on time.

    If you accuse me of any confidence-related shortfall, you'd have to call me over- confident. Perfectionist, though? In some things, yes. But I don't procrastinate for that reason either. Where do these absurd theories come from?



    You want to know why I procrastinate, knowing full-well that, while I may not produce my best results, I also have no doubt that I will succeed in producing an acceptible finished product? Simple - Because I've found that at least half the time, the task's nature changes significantly or the task outright goes away. No joke.

    In school, teachers/professors would always extend deadlines because most people whined too loudly that they considered the (perfectly easy and reasonable) assignment too hard or unfair. Professors would scale back the requirements, excuse subpar work, and often never even bother looking at what people turned in.

    In the working world, most "urgent problems" that come up, go away without any intervention by the next day. Long term projects have their budgets slashed at the end of the quarter. reports never get read anyway.



    So, by putting everything off until the last minute, I find myself with a hell of a lot more time to spend on meaningful (aka "self directed") activities.

    That doesn't, however, translate to "lazy". When I say "self-directed", I mean self-directed. I have always impressed my professors or managers not with the quality of my assigned work, but with the quality of what I do for its own sake. But then, I enjoy what I do, so my "personal" projects tend to have value to any endeavor I take on.



    And all this because I procrastinate, a habit looked down on by most people.

    1. Re:At least in my case, totally wrong. by Nedmud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think the answer to this is that what you're doing isn't real procrastination --- instead, you say you do this because you know it's the optimum course of action for some tasks. Many procrastinators know full well that they should get started NOW, but they just don't.

    2. Re:At least in my case, totally wrong. by Mordibity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well put. As a good friend of mine once said (Hi Joe!):
      If it can't be done the night before...
      it can't be done.

  9. So this is it by zakeria · · Score: 4, Funny

    So this is slashdot.. I'll report my cure for cancer ... sometime soon ... perhaps..

  10. We're a federally protected class by Harmonious+Botch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA: It's still unclear why some people may be more prone to developing procrastination behaviour, but some evidence suggests it may be genetic"

    If it is genetic, then procrastinator should be protected under discrimination laws, like vets, the blind, etc. "You can't charge me interest or penalties on my unpaid income tax! I'm disabled by GPD." ( Genetic Procrastination Disorder )

  11. Re:Wait what? by Original+Replica · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm glad that in the article they did mention other factors, such as being prone to distraction. Without my Ritalin, I often procrastiate or forget to do things. I have no deep seated fear of failure to wash my dishes, but I do have to walk past my playstation to get to the dishes.

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  12. Links by martyb · · Score: 2, Informative

    Links to the sources:

    BTW: A quote I saw on the latter site:

    "One of the greatest labor-saving inventions of today is tomorrow." Vincent T. Foss
  13. Useless formula by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Steel has also come up with the E=mc2 of procrastination, a formula he's dubbed Temporal Motivational Theory, which takes into account factors such as the expectancy a person has of succeeding with a given task (E), the value of completing the task (V), the desirability of the task (Utility), its immediacy or availability (G) and the person's sensitivity to delay (D).

    It looks like this and uses the Greek letter G (capital gamma [except I changed the gamma to a G since slashdot wouldn't take the gamma]): Utility = E x V / GD


    Here's my problem with psychology types coming up with formulae--the results of the calculation depend heavily on the scale used for measurement of the variables. I don't know of any standard scale for "expectancy of succeeding with a given task" or any of the other variables. Further, it seems that these variables would depend on self-evaluation, which we all know is not particularly useful--particularly in this area.

    In other words--why did this guy claim to make a formula? Formulae are for people looking for a result that is reasonably precise; but in this case the extremely imprecise input will result in useless output.

  14. Oh, one of those "Formula for XY found" stories... by johnny+maxwell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    These stories are just clever PR gags, they contain nothing of scientific value. Just look at the "equation" for a moment and you start wondering what the actually equate:

    "Steel has also come up with the E=mc2 of procrastination, a formula he's dubbed Temporal Motivational Theory, which takes into account factors such as the expectancy a person has of succeeding with a given task (E), the value of completing the task (V), the desirability of the task (Utility), its immediacy or availability () and the person's sensitivity to delay (D). It looks like this and uses the Greek letter (capital gamma): Utility = E x V / D"

    See: "expectancy", "value", "desirability" and so on. Perfect scientific quantities, don't you think?

    Read more about those jerks atGuardian's Bad Science, they come up regularly

  15. Procrasticode by Purity+Of+Essence · · Score: 5, Interesting

    do {
        if (job.time_allocated < job.deadline - now()) {
            play();
        }else{
            work();
        }
    } while (!job.finished)


    That's how I do it even though this is clearly more efficient:

    while (!job.finished) work();
    play();

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    1. Re:Procrasticode by funfail · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because we both know that without a deadline, finishing a job means starting another job, leaving no time for play.

  16. Depression by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Depression goes together with both procrastination and perfectionism (although I don't profess to know which way (if any) the causality works). Depressed people tend to feel guilty they've procrastinated so much, and, as a result, they avoid the task - in other words, they procrastinate further. Depressed people also tend to be dissatisfied with their work (even or perhaps especially when others praise it). Sometimes, that can be a reason to not take the last step in completion or submission.

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    1. Re:Depression by myndzi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Entirely true for me.

      "Steel has also come up with the E=mc2 of procrastination, a formula he's dubbed Temporal Motivational Theory, which takes into account factors such as the expectancy a person has of succeeding with a given task (E), the value of completing the task (V), the desirability of the task (Utility), its immediacy or availability (G) and the person's sensitivity to delay (D). It looks like this and uses the Greek letter (capital gamma): Utility = E x V / GD"

      Something interesting to note here -- if you are something like me, you may have built up an expectancy of failure not due to skill, but due to procrastination. That is, I tend to expect that I won't complete a project, not that I am incapable of doing so. E = 0 is a pretty bad case given the math! How does one rectify such a situation? I'll let you know when I figure it out. I plan to begin studying it tomorrow...

  17. Procrastinators drive progress by HungWeiLo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the Type-A do-gooder hardworkers were busy digging holes in the dirt with their bare hands, the lazy procrastinators decided to invent a hoe to do it twenty times faster (and probably starting the job two days after the hand diggers). All technology serves to implement laziness and procrastination, which in turn drives progress.

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  18. Well, duh. Of course perfectionism isn't involved by istartedi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I put off stuff when I don't want to do it. End of story. I find that reminding myself of the consequences for not getting things done is only mildly effective. You have to have a balance of work and pleasure. Sometimes, going off and partying really is the answer. When you're "relaxed" or "partied out", then you're more willing to work. If you find yourself fulminating about something you don't want to do, stop. Get a cup of coffee, talk with a friend, play a game, whatever makes you feel good. This will take just as much time, but when you come back you'll be happier about rolling up your sleaves and getting the job done.

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  19. Well, sort of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Posting anonymous for obvious reasons...

    I procrastinate because, yes, I'm an under-achiever and uncertain of myself. But I think I'm an underachiever because I've intentionally and strategically kept new people out of my life for fear of being found out as a bisexual (including remaining a virgin... I don't know if remaining a virgin throughout college is common or if I'm in an extremely tiny minority).

    Instead of succeeding, I purposefully have kept away from doing anything that might even remotely mean people being near or around me for over the last ten years, almost becoming a shut-in hermit except for going to my university (in which I'd talk to nobody). When you're hard-working and successful, and finish your work on time, you have a chance of being in some spotlight, such as the Dean's list or honor roll... remaining anonymous and unknown meant nobody would notice or get hurt if I, oh, just happened to jump off a bridge someday, and I performed accordingly in my work to reflect that. I have nobody to blame but myself for being a coward, having very recently come to terms with how my irrational fears of irrational people have severely jeopardized my well-being; and that if someone has a problem with something so trivial about me, that's THEIR fucking problem, not MINE. But that's another story... I procrastinated on purpose. During these last couple of months I have finally been working on some of the things I wanted to do when in college, at least those things related to computer programming such as teaching myself other programming languages, writing a small game, making a crude graphics rendering engine to learn more OpenGL than I did in college... of course, it's not as fun when you're not working on something like this with fellow students and having fun, but I've graduated and now I'm not sure where or how to meet people in my town.

    Anyway, I'm getting distracted from the subject at hand. Long story short, irrational fears not directly related to what you're procrastinating may indirectly cause you to procrastinate what you're procrastinating... (I hope that wasn't grammar-diarrhea)

  20. Obligatory by KoldKompress · · Score: 2, Funny

    I already came up with the formula, I was just too lazy to publish it.

  21. The word has always creeped me out by Flipao · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've always thought Procastinators were people who kept their virginity in exchange for money... or people who cut each other's genitals in exchange for money... either way I think I probably need a shrink :/

    1. Re:The word has always creeped me out by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're thinking of a Pro Castrator.

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  22. It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not even something new. You can head over to "badscience.net and find a few more such examples in their archives, including the formula for the perfect football match, the perfect vacation, the perfect ice cream, the perfect beach, perfect day to book a vacation, most depressing day of the year, etc.

    The way at least those invariably happened is: some company, let's call it Moraelin Tobacco Ltd, contacts some PR agency to drum up interest in smoking a bit. Tobacco taxes are up, people have made new year's resolutions to quit smoking, etc, and I could use a bit of reminding them to light one. Remember, PR isn't marketting: marketting tells you "buy Moraelin's cigarettes", PR works in more insidious ways, like telling you "boffins discovered that smoking is actually good for your health." It's marketting's evil stealthy brother. It loves to disguise itself as news.

    So the PR agency concocts some stupid formula, say, "the formula for the perfect smoking experience." It's usually a stupid formula: for example the ones at badscience.net routinely do stupid stuff like add numbers that don't even have the same units. (E.g., one adds time to time squared.) They also invariably don't even tell you how to measure any of the factors involved, don't have any studies to prove it (and never a control group), etc. But the purpose of that formula isn't to be scientific, but to get Joe Sixpack's attention to whatever I'm selling, and/or to undermine whatever he had against it. Marketting will take it from there.

    Ok, now they have a formula they can disguise as news, but if it comes from a PR agency, noone will take it seriously. Even Joe Sixpack isn't usually _that_ stupid. So the next round there is to find someone with some "Dr", "Prof" or whatever important sounding title, and preferrably from some university (sounds all smart and stuff to Joe Sixpack), who's willing to sell his name for some money. A lot will tell them where to shove it, but eventually they find, say, Prof Jack Conman from the university of East Bumfuckistan, who wasn't doing any research anyway and doesn't give a damn about getting a bad reputation among his peers. Sure, he'll take the PR agency's money and sign his name on their pseudo-science "paper."

    And now we have all we need to send that "news" to every major newspaper, disguised as academic research.

    Does it start to sound like TFA yet?

    Because that's exactly what we have here: a stupid formula where they even admit that they don't even know how to measure the variables involved. Nor have any statistical data to show that that's how it works. Did they take two groups, told them to do the same project, but group A got told it's a critical, while group B was told it's unimportant? Was the time difference really linearly proportional to the value difference in dollars? Well, I don't see any such study, much less the values and error bar that would accompany real research.

    And how about the elementary issue that all tasks are ultimately split into smaller sub-tasks. Any program you ever wrote, you didn't deal with it as one monumental indivisible task, but broke it up in packages, modules, functions, etc. Do you become automatically demotivated and likely to procrastinate for weeks, just because next on your list is a sub-task like the file input dialog (low V in his formula) than going after the whole program in one step (high V)? Well, blimey, wonder why we've been doing it then, in all these decades of structured design and project management.

    And how about other factors, like morale, stress, or being overworked? Shouldn't they be at least mentioned in a real scientific study? Doing a big "we don't know why, it might possibly be genetic" shrug doesn't strike me as particularly clued.

    And does procrastination really work that way? Really? Because the RL cases I've seen weren't as much a case of adding a fixed number of days, as a case of expanding to fill the deadline and then some. I.e., more of a case of "ah, I s

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    1. Re:It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by Joebert · · Score: 5, Funny

      Boy did you ever pick the wrong subject to post that monster sized comment in.
      Wish I had mod points, I'd just mod you informative & call it a day.

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    2. Re:It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yes, dear, so are the other bullshitters signing their name on on PR agencies' formulae. It's invariably Dr Wossname or Prof Watsisface that get to sell their name to such PR agencies. Because making a mockery of science for PR works better when it's someone in a white labcoat taking the pie in the face for the media. It makes Joe Sixpack feel better about himself.

      At any rate, where is the study and control group for, you know, testing that formula? Identifying finite variables is good and fine, but when you put them in a maths formula, where's the experiment that tests it, and what is the error bar? What are the units used? _How_ do you measure those variables?

      Without that, it's pure bullshit pseudo-science at its finest.

      Identifying variables is good and fine, but just making up a formula involving them isn't. Not without the experimental data.

      E.g., let's do gravity the bullshit way he does this maths. Mass seems to be a factor. Distance seems to influence it somehow, but let's not actually do an experiment or use a telescope to find out by how much. The density of the medium seems to influence it somehow too, since objects immersed in water seem lighter. (Ok, it doesn't work that way, but that's the way a thoroughly uninformed non-scientific guess would probably end up like.) So let's guess that F = mass / (distance + density). Hmm, wrong units summed up below (though the average PR bullshitter wouldn't spot that), so maybe it's F = mass / (distance * density).

      That's the kind of utter bullshit you can arrive at, if you just make up a formula with some variables you don't even understand or know how to measure. And that's the kind of guess this guy does.

      You don't need some Ph.D. in anything to understand why just guessing a formula bogus. You just need to have paid even minimal attention to the science classes in school.

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    3. Re:It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you read _even_ the summary it linked to? Or his web site? (Ok, so it just parrots the exact same text.) Because he certainly doesn't claim to have done more than a meta-analysis of other people's papers. In fact, googling him, he never claimed any other experience other than meta-analyzing other people's papers. And even that, a whole 1 time, resulting in 4 publications. (I assume the rest of his papers didn't even have that much research.) At any rate, he claims credit for the equation, but not to have validated it in any way. Nor any error bar.

      And before we go any further, let's look first at what meta-analysis means.

      Since that formula didn't exist before, it would be damn hard to directly combine samples to validate it. Noone made the statistics specifically for that. But maybe we can do that for the variables.

      Was there some standardized way of measuring "resistance to procrastination"? Units? Because combining statistics that don't even use the same units is enough to invalidate any attempts at meta-analyzing them. And blimey, there seems to be nothing on the topic except vague motivational texts. Noone except him even proposes to put a number on _that_ kind of a fuzzy concept, so I'm not sure where he'd find the hard numbers to validate that formula by meta-analysis.

      And wth is a "temporal motivational factor" which he calculates there? There are a number of theories as to what might affect motivation, but I'm not aware of anyone ever putting a number or units on _that_. So where do you get the data you can feed into that meta-analysis to validate the formula? No, seriously. I want to know.

      Etc.

      And since you seem to be hung up on credentials, who is this guy? He's "professor" only by virtue of teaching at a business school. And let's say it again: a business school. And It's not a medical or psychology institute. According to everything I could find googling quickly, he teaches human resources and operation dynamics there, so a lot more towards the business side than anything resembling genuine psychology research. Much less the kind of hard science kind of thing that would give confidence in using such maths as more than a piss-poor metaphor. One of his courses is "Individual Differences". No doubt a useful thing in HR, but hardly something you could put in hard numbers. (And I'd worry even more if anyone even tried.) There _are_ things in a business school that genuinely need maths and use maths correctly, but human resources is as soft and fuzzy as it gets. So the whole "university" there is a bit of a false authority factor, no more.

      The only things I could find attributed to him other than, yes, 10 years of philosophising about procrastination (bit of a running joke, I guess), are such stuff as claiming to have invented a system that can select exactly the right man for any task, in 1/1000 the time and for 1/1000 the cost. Whether it's for a job or, literally, your prospective spouse. You use his system to pick up the right employee, and you end up with a rambo that can wipe out several platoons of other employees. Or, again, you could use it to select exactly the right spouse for you off a dating site.

      And if _that_ kind of bullshit assertion (or the fact that we haven't heard of it ever since, despite it's obvious value and applications, if it really worked) doesn't peg your bullshit meter, heh, the accusation rests.

      Literally, that's the kind of bogus pseudo-science that this guy puts his name on. If it's not signing someone else's PR texts, then he is a genuine con-man.

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    4. Re:It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by learn+fast · · Score: 3, Informative

      I think the poster doth protest a bit much.

      Here's his resume:

      http://www.ucalgary.ca/~steel/procrastinus/homepag e/homepage.html

    5. Re:It's a PR agency playing pseudo-scientist by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Indeed. And here's the other bullshit claim of his that I mentioned: Selection tool could revolutionize
      hiring, online dating.

      What's wrong with that? Well, the moment that you claim it does it in 1/1000 of the time, let's make one thing clear: it means doing in 2 hours what you could do in about a year (at 40 hours a week.) You have to throw away any attempt at interviews, checking references, etc. You just feed the computer the CVs or the dating profiles and it spits out the "Rambo employee" that'll wipe out the competition, or the perfect lover for you.

      (Note that that by itself is a camouflaged way of touting "the formula for the perfect X". But let's not get hung up on that.)

      The problem there: Garbage In, Garbage Out.

      CVs range from 100% honest, to padded, to complete bullshit. We had one guy who couldn't even program, in spite of his impressive CV. After a while of obviously doing nothing, he started just randomly changing files and checking them in to look like he does something. Only to prove how stupid he was, his changes didn't even compile. Then he got fired. Then one of his team mates found his updated CV online, in which he claimed he was the chief architect of that project, single-handedly improved performance by an unrealistic factor, etc. Not only, as said, he couldn't even program, but he never had that kind of responsibility. I personally know the guy who was the actual architect of that project.

      And most dating profiles are useless tripe. They'll tell you generic stuff like "likes to have fun", as if that many others would write "I like to moan and bitch and sob on someone's shoulder."

      Even if you forced people to put everything into numbers, on a 0 to 10 scale, CVs will still include a random amount of padding (that guy I mentioned would certainly give himself 10s in a lot of stuff), and so will dating profiles. And different people will interpret that scale differently. Does for example 10 in "likes cats" on a dating profile mean they like to play with a cat, or total obsession, or being a furry, or what? Different people will interpret that differently. Does a 5 mean "I don't care about cats either way" or "I totally hate the fucking things"? For some people 5 is center, but there are a lot of people whose scale is basically logarithmic: anything they like at all must be between 9 and 10, and anything lower is interpreted as about the same as giving someone an F. See the many fanboys sending hate mail to review sites if a game scores less than 90%.

      So how _do_ you put such garbage in without getting garbage out? Traditionally the check was actually talking to that someone, checking if they really know their stuff, or in the case of dating, actually dating them and seeing if you really fit. How does a standardized computerized system do that?

      And more importantly, what ever happened to it? Such a gold mine, you'd expect to see it being used by now.

      It reminds me of a story about an alchemist in the middle ages, who tried to sell the formula for converting lead into gold to some king. So the king gives him an empty bag and tells him something like, "well, you already know how to make gold, so fill it for yourself."

      Same thing here. If you have a standardized way of picking a Rambo employee that will wipe out several squads of the competition (his hyperbole, not mine), you take a loan, hire 20 of them, and be the next Microsoft or whatever. Ok, maybe he's not the risk taking type, even when the win is (or he makes it sound) 99% guaranteed. Who else used it and made a fortune then?

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  23. MOD UP by schwaang · · Score: 2, Informative
    FTA:
    Not all delays can be considered procrastination; the key is that a person must believe it would be better to start working on given tasks immediately, but still not start.
  24. Re:Well, duh. Of course perfectionism isn't involv by istartedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ahh... the ever popular "I'll make outrageous inferences" troll. Either you're doing it on purpose to be difficult, it's an honest mistake, or I have some sort of defecit in my writing. I've been subject to this form of attack, if that's what it is, on more than on occasion. I've gotten to the point where I feel I must refuse to reply to them in terms of what's actually being implied. Instead, I can only offer that if you think I've said something ridiculous, odds are it was not what I intended to say. I wager that for just about any writing beyond one or two sentances, it's not difficult to craft an inference troll, either on purpose or by accident. That's why there's no point in trying to remedy this problem by being careful in my composition. If I did, it would likely read more like a legal document than a casual comment.

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  25. not my experience by misanthrope101 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Essentially, procrastinators have less confidence in themselves
    The things I procrastinate are things I know I can wing well enough at the last minute and still get by. I'd bet many procrastinators are similar. Not everything has to be done right now. Plus, I've found that many problems self-resolve if you ignore them, or you find out later that they weren't the emergency they first seemed to be. We're just too mired in the cult of efficiency, and everyone is convinced everything has to be done now-now-now so you can do more-more-more. We would do well with less doing and more thinking.
  26. Bad science (linky inside to ben goldacre) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Posted anonymously to avoid Karma Whoring.

    Bad science and useless formula


    Folk as it has already been psoted earlier this is simply some PR agency which asked some random guy to MAKE UP a formulae. That's it. The formulae is useless , as useless as the pr/marketing around it. Tskkkk. What's it with Slashdot and pseudo science ?

  27. I'm procrastinating by reading this comment thread by eldalonde · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm procrastinating by reading this comment thread.

    I'll also echo that I procrastinate things because I'm accustomed to being able to wing them and do well.

  28. Re:End link tag please... by jerkface.us · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just look at the page's src code. I'll do it later.
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