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Aqua Teen Hunger Force Brings Boston to a Halt

An anonymous reader writes "An ad campaign for Aqua Teen Hunger Force featuring the Mooninites Ignignot and Err caused major security concerns in Boston, MA when magnetic light displays were mistaken for possible bombs. The displays included one of Ignignot flipping the bird (as hard as he could), but Gov. Deval Patrick was not amused."

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  1. On the moon... by rbanzai · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...nerds get their pants pulled down and they are spanked with moonrocks.

  2. Photo's of the devices in question by 2bitcomputers · · Score: 5, Informative

    Someone found one of the devices under a bridge last week and posted a few pictures to Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanderlin/tags/aquate enhungerforce/

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  3. Reasonable suspicion by PresidentEnder · · Score: 5, Funny
    Yes, because when I want to blow something up, I ALWAYS make sure that the bomb displays flashing lights clearly visible to everyone around.

    I salute our brave leaders for their quick and level-headed handling of the situation.

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    1. Re:Reasonable suspicion by Feanturi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah you're right, explosives can be hidden in almost anything. So, the logical conclusion is to knock down all buildings, and bulldoze the entire city completely flat so that anything suspicious will stand out. And you'll have to put the people somewhere else too. Simply making them go naked won't work, since they tend to carry illegal things in their bums.

      There's being cautious and there's being retarded.

    2. Re:Reasonable suspicion by Sneftel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And what do you think would have happened if these things had been bombs, disguised as creepy little advertisements, and the police ignored them? Never mind the damage and loss of life, people would be bitching to high heaven about police and government incompetence.

      You're right. If I ever need to blow up a bridge or something, I'll make sure not to disguise the bomb as a discarded cardboard box. Instead I'll make it flash wildly, so nobody notices.

      The "You have to take all threats seriously" argument presupposes that either (a) wildly blinking objects with bird-flipping aliens on them are significantly more potentially dangerous than common refuse, or (b) any piece of common refuse should be treated as a threat and lead to bridge shutdowns and bomb squads and pissed-off governors. I can't see either of these being true (though the second one sure would help with the litter problem).

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    3. Re:Reasonable suspicion by s20451 · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's being cautious and there's being retarded.

      So we have that:

      1. Anything that looks like a bomb is not a bomb, because nobody would call attention to their bomb.

      2. A bomb looks like a bomb, by definition.

      3. From 2, anything that doesn't look like a bomb is not a bomb.

      4. From 1 and 3, the existence of bombs is a contradiction. Thus we are safe forever. QED

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    4. Re:Reasonable suspicion by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And what do you think would have happened if these things had been bombs, disguised as creepy little advertisements, and the police ignored them?

      Yeah, because our immaculately clean cities have such a serious shortage of more innocuous hiding places, right? Like, say, garbage... Why, I can't even recall the last time I saw a discarded beat-up large cardboard box while visiting Boston.

      Hiding in plain sight might work well for ninjas, but we mere mortals should stick to diving for the closet or under the bed when the parents/jealous hubby/mormons come to the door.



      The bottom line is, in times like these and in a major city like Boston, you have to take everything seriously.

      No. "In times like [foo]" and "in places like [bar]" never count as a good reason. Every generation in the history of the planet, and every city to ever plague the face of the Earth, has believed that it had some magically unique set of trying circumstances.

      "These times" represent more of a norm than an abberation therefrom. Get used to it, and just thank Zeus every day you don't live in the West Bank or Mosul or any of the abundance of other places we only know about because the daily news keeps reminding us of how much life there sucks.



      Look at the pictures posted of one of these things - they have a row of D-batteries covered in duct tape.

      Have you ever seen anything more "bomb-like" than an M-80?

      A few D-battery-sized wads of high explosive, detonated in an open area (not the same as a shaped charge or a capped bore-hole!), would do nothing. Someone who happened to touch it at the moment of explosion might get killed, but it wouldn't do much better than that.

      When you hear about suicide bombs going off in markets and mosques in Iraq, these involve large backpacks or even vehicles stuffed to the brim with explosives. And they still usually only manage to take out, in a crowd, a dozen people!

      While the average Joe may believe what they see on CSI or 24 or whatever they have as the joke-of-a-cop-drama of the season, a real bomb-squad should have a hell of a lot better training than that.

    5. Re:Reasonable suspicion by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And what do you think would have happened if these things had been bombs

            What if? What if someone suddenly replaced the bridges with an exact replica only it wasn't a bridge, it was actually a chameleon nuclear bomb. And what if the police didn't notice? What then eh? What then?

            The "what if" argument fails because it immediately deviates from the actual fact, into the fantasy realm of the author.

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    6. Re:Reasonable suspicion by krotkruton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kinda like when I was in High School and they banned backpacks (but not purses, which is a whole other story) from classrooms because bombs could be hidden in them, which, according to the administration, would make for a lot more effort for a bomb squad to find a bomb in case a bomb threat was called in. Of course, this just meant that the bombs would be left in lockers for the bomb squad to search, which I don't see as making things any easier. The high school wasn't being cautious, it was being retarded.

      As some other people said, this is just a media event (unless of course, the people involved really are retarded). I hate to break it to people, but there is very little that we can do to stop dedicated terrorists, whether those terrorists are Muslim fundamentalists, the next Timothy McVeigh, or a group of teenagers who are pissed at their classmates. If we try to prevent terrorism from happening by jumping at shadows or taking away freedom, we aren't going to make any progress and will probably just create more terrorists. Does anyone else think that there will be a minor backlash of ATHF graffiti and copycat light ads now that this happened? Hell, I'd almost expect a terrorist to make a bomb in the shape of these ads, but that would be kinda counter productive because it would prove these security freaks right.

    7. Re:Reasonable suspicion by feepness · · Score: 5, Funny

      4. From 1 and 3, the existence of bombs is a contradiction. Thus we are safe forever. QED

      All I know is that I always carry my own bomb when I ride on an airplane because, hey, two bombs on an airplane? How unlikely is that!?!

    8. Re:Reasonable suspicion by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess it really boils down to how funny people think terrorism is.

      Uhhh...

      They placed cute flashing animated signs in various locations around three cities. According to some accounts, they did this two weeks ago, and Boston just now got around to noticing enough to throw a hissy-fit.

      And you call this "terrorism"? The only "terrorists" here sit on the city council and behind news anchor desks at the local media. The advertising firm at worst failed to get the proper permits. Whoop-de-do. Fine them $50 and let's all get on with our lives.



      I don't really find it funny that a large chunk of taxpayer's money is being spent investigating what is effectively a burning paper bag full of doo doo.

      Well, we agree on that much. And I sincerely hope the people of Boston throw the clueless fearmongers in city hall out on the streets as a result.



      Also Aqua Teen Hunger Force sucks. there. i said it. god.

      Again, we agree completely. But I'll defend their right to free speech to my death. ;-)

    9. Re:Reasonable suspicion by Skreems · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who's going to see a tiny little add posted on a bridge's support column? I think they did this so the bomb squad would come, and they'd get all this free press.

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    10. Re:Reasonable suspicion by Svartalf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sigh... A bomb...

      I looked at the pics.

      How many pounds of C4 (Which would be the most potent explosive you could lay hands on...) do you think you could put in there?

      1?
      2?

      You MIGHT be able to hurt someone with it like you would with an anti-personnel mine, but damage the bridge or anything else
      that would rate this sort of reaction? Nope.

      In order to do something serious with the stuff- say take out armored vehicles, you'd need MUCH more than what could have
      ever been deployed in something that size:

      US M21 AT Mine: 11 lbs of explosive.
      US M15 AT Mine: 21 lbs of explosive.
      Type 72 non-metallic AT mine: 11 lbs of explosive.

      AP mines have varying weights of explosive but usually it's something like 1.5-3 lbs.

      To be sure, it might have been a risk if it WERE a bomb, but it didn't merit the reactions that we've seen. It's not like
      a car-bomb where you might find hundreds of pounds of explosive in it...

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    11. Re:Reasonable suspicion by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, a lot of people in power want people to think that everyone is out to get them. It is a lot easier to tighten the screws on a populace that is afraid of some ill-defined enemy because they'll give up rights so you can "protect" them. That's why all of these so-called hoaxes get announced.

      For a lot of the people in power, the reason they keep parroting the whole "terrorist" possibility (much like the communist scare of years gone by) is so that they can have even more power. They think that if they can keep the populace frightened enough, they will be able to justify keeping themselves in office indefinately and being able to act with impunity.

      In addition, it's a great way to distract people from how badly things are going in the economic and civil rights arenas.

      It's like the old saying says - power corrupts, and these people have way too much power and far too few scruples.

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  4. Just be thankful by anotherone · · Score: 5, Funny

    That they spared Boston from the Quad-Laser.

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  5. the prophe, shake-zulah by notoriousE · · Score: 4, Funny

    Frylock: You are not a prophet, Shake! So stop this madness!

    Shake: Frylock, I cannot do that. God hath commanded that I do his will or the Earth will blow up!

    Frylock: My ass he did!

    Meatwad: God's gunna blow up the world?

    Shake: Oh yeah, brutha! He ain't too pleased with YOU in particular, Meatwad!

    Meatwad: ME?!

    Shake: Oh yeah.... He saw you touchin' yourself--

    Meatwad: I don't touch myself!

    Shake: In the bathroom!

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  6. Video of them putting this stuff up by frostyboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This used to be on youtube, but it's been pulled. It's now up at a safer place. Some local people I know have actually been able to deduce locations from the video and obtain a couple of these "devices." Boston area slashdotters up for some scavenger hunting? athf-lightsnipes-boston.flv

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  7. OMG! Wires and Circuitboards! by AmazingRuss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article says they got worried when they saw the wires and circuit boards. The knowledgable terrorist will doubtless package his payload in a fashionable briefcase now that he has been alerted to this penchant.

    Damn you Aqua Teen Hunger Force! You have DOOMED America!

  8. FOXNews.com screenshot. by ChangeOnInstall · · Score: 5, Funny

    I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw this:

    http://www.catastrophicerror.com/~endo/Ignignokt.p ng

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    1. Re:FOXNews.com screenshot. by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I never thought I'd see the day this would be on CNN:
      http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/01/31/boston.bombsc are/newt1.1827.boston.wcvb.jpg

  9. Homeland Insecurity by obyom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Paranoia strikes deep. Into your life it can creep."

            -from "What It's Worth" -Buffalo Springfield

    1. Re:Homeland Insecurity by doctrbl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And don't forget the next line:

      "It starts when you're always afraid"

  10. State of our Country by Scorpinox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It really makes me sick that we're at the point where people mistake everyday things for bombs and have homeland security called in. I can't even ride my universities bus holding a wired up circuit board (for a class) without people looking at me like I'm about to blow them up.

    1. Re:State of our Country by heinousjay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not my job to accommodate the pathological fears of others.

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  11. Re:As a Bostonian by sheetsda · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Also, I'd say that since guerrilla marketing by definition is outside of the normal channels for marketing, Cartoon Network should not be surprised when the book of law is tossed at them.


    Yes, because in Soviet America, anything outside normal trains of thought is illegal.

  12. First thought by billdar · · Score: 3, Funny
    My first thought was this was a amazing feat of PR stupidity, but turns out I fell for this as a media-led sheep. Their use of 'magnetically lighted device' paints an ominous picture. But looking at the photo, I'm not sure how someone could think it a bomb

    Then again, that just proves that if terrorists paint their IED's pretty colors and put Mickey Mouse on it, I'm fucked...

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  13. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Jartan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's irresponsible because it doesn't take a genius to figure out that a problem like this might happen, and that other people just trying to get on with their day might be unfairly affected.
    Actually it probably takes someone who's not a genius because a genius wouldn't realize people could possibly be this stupid. War on terror my ass. The terrorists seem to have won already when we have everyone jumping at shadows.
  14. Dumbest thing I've read in years.... by Rahga · · Score: 5, Informative

    One of the articles I read said:
    'Officials said it contained an electronic circuit board with some components that were "consistent with an improvised explosive device,"'

    Okay, now, come on. These are really large circuit boards with a whole lot of LEDs soldered on to them. Nothing more, unless there are some other really messed up packages out there that haven't been reported on. Those officials sound like they have features consistent with smart police officers, in that they breathe and eat, but the similarities probably end there.

    1. Re:Dumbest thing I've read in years.... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Funny

      "consistent with an improvised explosive device,"'

            Well look at it this way, if these boards ran on a certain brand of laptop battery (cough Sony cough), they might be right!!!

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    2. Re:Dumbest thing I've read in years.... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the articles I read said:
      'Officials said it contained an electronic circuit board with some components that were "consistent with an improvised explosive device,"'

      Okay, now, come on. These are really large circuit boards with a whole lot of LEDs soldered on to them. Nothing more, unless there are some other really messed up packages out there that haven't been reported on.
      Now you know.

      That's the way they justify all their bullshit.

      "Behavior consistent with terrorist actions."
      "Associations with well-known terrorists."
      etc

      When those vague phrases are the best they can do it means they don't have a shred of meaningful evidence but they want to scare people into thinking they do, so their authority won't be questioned.
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  15. Welcome to the USA, home of Paranoid Freaks! by EllisDees · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, they got their money's worth on this advertising campaign!

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  16. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by B3ryllium · · Score: 5, Funny

    A friend of mine tried to tell the local FOX News affiliate.

    They laughed him off.

    Idiots.

  17. Re:As a Bostonian by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Insightful


    I live in Boston, and I can say that the day was very tense.

    Why? Because the media put out a big scare story that turned out to be nothing?

    which you'd expect no matter what when dealing with batteries and unknown electronics in a sneaky location in a heavy traffic area

    Maybe you should just stop paying attention to every little scare mongering story that gets released. Personally I'd direct some attention over to the media outlets for publishing a story with no information, who's only result was to un-necessarily scare people. A few weeks ago it was a strange smell in NYC that everyone assumed was the work of terrorists. I'm sure there's about 20 other stories I'm missing because...I've stopped paying attention to these junk stories.

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  18. Wow, and he's... by j79 · · Score: 3, Informative

    trying to sell it on eBay for $5,000 bucks! Unfortunately, I live in Boston (where I'm assuming all mooninites have been rounded up) but if you live in another city, go and steal yourself one! Then sell on eBay for big bucks....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Adult-Swim-LED-Ad_W0QQitemZ320 078002362QQihZ011QQcategoryZ28009QQssPageNameZWDVW QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  19. Stupidies thing I've heard, ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    " You have to take these all seriously, because who knows if they're threats or not?"

              Well, I do. It's obvious that a beer sign, light bright, or flickery street light are not bombs, although you and apparently others in Boston don't know this.

    " I'm mad as hell about this ad campaign because when it comes time to pay for all the police activity today, you can bet your ass Ted Turner won't offer to foot the bill."

              He shouldn't foot the bill. Any jerk could tell those signs aren't bombs. Turner doesn't owe dick for the local po' being stupid and overreacting.

  20. The whole thing is so STUPID by LunaticTippy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please don't try to justify this pathetic overreaction. We've become a nation of fearful neurotic idiots.

    If someone wants to blow up a bridge, they will blow it up. They can strap dynamite to their torso and hug support beams. They can drive an explosive-filled car into a stanchion. They can fill a boat with fertilizer and float underneath. No matter how much we freak out over nothing, no matter how many times we give up our rights, take off our shoes, and do other retarded inappropriate useless things.

    Even if we were dealing with a coward terrorist who wasn't willing to commit his life, you wouldn't see something with wires and batteries sticking out. It'd be out of sight, or look like garbage.

    It's such an irrational fear. How many people have been killed in the past hundred years in the US by little boxes with wires and batteries sticking out? How many have been killed by auto wrecks? It's jaw-droppingly lame, and it's getting worse. We'd be better off panicking about ceiling fans, lightning bolts, or bunions.

    We don't even need terrorists anymore. All it takes to shut down a city is cowering, whimpering, losers afraid of their own shadow.

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    1. Re:The whole thing is so STUPID by SamSim · · Score: 3, Informative

      If someone wants to blow up a bridge, they will blow it up.

      This is what gets me. It's well-established that despite all pretense, security (even airflight security) in the USA is poor at best. Given this, if terrorists really wanted to attack America, don't you think they would have, you know, attacked America? At all? In the last five years?

    2. Re:The whole thing is so STUPID by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We've become a nation of fearful neurotic idiots.


      Become????

      sorry my friend we have been that way for a really long time, at least 4 generations now. Histroy has recorded this quite clearly. Last time it was communism.

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  21. Oh noes! by Ig0r · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somebody set us up the bomb!

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  22. Such a crying shame. by Polarism · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I saw this as I was coming into work this afternoon on our big screen (thank god for the military having most of their televisions permanently tuned to FOX NEWS for the "situational awareness" it provides...) and my jaw just dropped. It's really hitting me lately how much our country is changing, and there is very little that individuals can do about it. I feel like standing on top of a soap box and yelling at people till i'm blue in the face, but I know that's fruitless.

    Wake up...

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  23. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who lives in Boston, I'm glad they decided to take these precautions. You have to take these all seriously, because who knows if they're threats or not?
    Yeah, because so many bombs feature blinking lights. Bomb makers really want to draw attention to the bombs before they go off.

    I'm mad as hell about this ad campaign because when it comes time to pay for all the police activity today, you can bet your ass Ted Turner won't offer to foot the bill.
    In the first grade, we were taught to identify pipe bombs and not one of us would have thought these things were bombs. You should be mad at your government for spending the money on security theater rather than on real security and education. You can hardly blame Ted Turner or anyone else for idiots who thought these things were bombs.
  24. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by badspyro · · Score: 5, Funny

    what first grade did you go to?!?!
    maybe i was ill that day...

  25. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Mad+Quacker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who lives in Boston, I'm glad they decided to take these precautions. You have to take these all seriously, because who knows if they're threats or not? I'm mad as hell about this ad campaign because when it comes time to pay for all the police activity today, you can bet your ass Ted Turner won't offer to foot the bill. This will sound like a troll, but karma be damned - you're an idiot. So it the person who called this in - they should be charged for the mess. Also, please stop watching fox news and 24, and go read a book.
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  26. Only Boston by Belgand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Surprisingly only Boston had a problem with this when TFA mentions that these are up in 9 other cities. Likewise I've only heard Boston-based posters complaining about how this was irresponsible and something that obviously looked a lot like a bomb so it needed to be investigated.

  27. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by dedazo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And when someone actually plants a bomb somewhere, it causes damage and the police didn't act the way they're supposed to because they think it's probably a stupid prank then you'd be howling for their nads, wouldn't you?

    I know it's fashionable to complain about these things now, but war on terror or not, this was unnecessary and dumb. It could have been done in any number of ways that did not involve bringing Boston to a halt in the middle of the day. I think the response was the correct one and I hope that if this ever happens in my city the response is exactly the same.

    And if these bored TV execs thought about it for more than five seconds and didn't do this - then the terrorists are winning as well? I think not. This is about common sense and basic civil responsibility.

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  28. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In the second grade, they taught us to make pipe bombs. Important tips like not buying the pipe and caps at the same hardware store, paying cash for everything, how to make detonators from flashbulbs and clothespins, and so forth. You really missed out!

  29. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is what happens when you've had 6 years of being told that the terrorists are out to kill every single last one of us in our beds.

    The next time you're about to say "if you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" remember this story, and think about some wacky cartoon guys trying to have a little fun. They are now being threatened with who-knows-what just because we've got leaders that piss themselves at the thought of islamoliberalnazis coming in the night to rape their women, cut their throats and give their kids video games with pictures of naked breasts.

    There is a serious downside to buying into the current wave of fear-mongering being perpetrated in this country. I understand that they're doing it to make us easier to govern, but it's going to have consequences that the powers that be cannot imagine. One of those consequences is that we're starting to seriously think our leaders are knuckleheads. And cowards.

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  30. I realise you're being facetious, but by SamSim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    2. A bomb looks like a bomb, by definition.

    Here's your problem. A bomb does not "look like a bomb". People think a bomb is a bundle of sticks of dynamite with a bright red digital timer, preferably bleeping. But bombs don't look like that.

  31. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Reverberant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So it the person who called this in - they should be charged for the mess.

    Bullshit. Someone (most likely someone who's never even heard of ATHF, much less knows what a Mooninite is) saw an an odd-looking device attached to a potentially suspicious target and reported it. The bomb squad blew one up, and investigated the others. Yes, some roads and bridges were closed, but the city wasn't evacuated, the national guard wasn't called out, no one was rounded up. By the time I heard about this, it was already over. The system worked the way it should.

    Turner, on the other hand may have something to answer for. As part of my job, I leave electronic monitoring equipment for days or weeks in pubic places. Even before 9/11, I knew better than to do so without informing the authorities - if I can't inform someone in charge, I attach a note to the device saying "this is a sound monitoring device for project XXX. If you have any questions, call John Smith at (617) 555-8944." I have heard from many colleagues who did not take these steps, and had their $5000 devices blown up by the bomb squad (again, this stuff was happening before 9/11).

    If Turner took these steps, and officials got their wires crossed, then yes the authorities obviously overreacted. But if the city wasn't informed, the city took all the right steps. Did you expect the authorities to just ignore the devices because they looked cute?

  32. Re:Reasonable vs. unreasonable concerns by miceyman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I couldn't agree more. These were placed on heavily traveled bridges. The police probably couldn't have cared less about what the device looked like, except for the fact that there were more than a half dozen of them strapped under bridges across the city, and they hadn't heard about them. I'm not sure what the chain of events was, but if you're the official responsible for saying "sure, leave the bridge open until we get down there to check it out" and the next thing you know 15 cars went flying into the harbor because the Zakim bridge went kaboom... well, Let's just say I can understand his point of view. And believe it or not, this is all coming from someone who takes immense pleasure in asking people who are so worried about dying at the hands of the terrorists whatever they shall do if they get behind the wheel of the infinitely more dangerous contraption called an "automobile."

  33. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by furbyhater · · Score: 5, Funny

    As part of my job, I leave electronic monitoring equipment for days or weeks in pubic places.

    What type of sick experiment/fetish is going on there? To each their own...

  34. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is a sound monitoring comment for post #17836518. If you have any questions, call Abdul T. el-Bomber at (555) 555-2662. Please quickly leave a message when the beeping stops.

  35. YOUTUBE VIDEO by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 4, Informative

    Bandwidth exceeded. Placed back onto YouTube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doD_VpT_yAY

  36. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by aaronl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course, with the police and such talking about nailing whoever did it to a cross, what a surprise that nobody stepped forward to quell the madness.

    It was a stupid stunt, with a moronic response by the authorities. It also worked 100%, due to how moronic the response of the Boston authorities was. There's a difference between quickly closing down the immmediate area, investigating the sign while doing so, and then discontinuing the closures after the all clear, and what they did. They closed everything in a wide area, called in heavily armed units, caused considerable panic, and then gave the all clear while screaming about throwing whoever did it in the abyss. In other words, the decision makers acted like irrational mental cases screaming at the invisible monsters from space rather than calm intelligent people dealing with a potential dangerous situation.

  37. CNN edit by flogger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    CNN is running this article, but the picture has been edited out the offensive finger.

    I find that interesting they will edit a "drawn" finger but will show blody dismembered bodies.

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  38. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by dosquatch · · Score: 5, Funny

    OK! Any recommended titles?

    Please. You're reading a site with the tagline "News for Nerds". You should already know the required reading.

    You should already own and have read all of these, and if you're truly pretentious you should be able to quote relevant passages. Also, to retain your nerd and/or geek credentials, you must be able to quote from two or more of Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, Stargate, Firefly, or Andromeda. You will be expected to pick one of these as a religion* and from time to time wage holy war on the rest for forsaking The One True Way. Also you must be able to recite on demand the Spam sketch, the Dead Parrot sketch, and 90% of the Princess Bride script**.

    If you wish to branch out from required reading, other popular choices are Twain, Shakespeare, Crichton, and Mark Minasi.

    (e.g., theater [or is theatre more proper?]

    While either is correct, the "Enlightened" tend to use "theatre". I tend to make a distinction in that "theater" is the building and "theatre" is the performance within, but that's mostly because I suffered with a thespian roommate for a while and the brainwashing eventually wore me down. You may choose as you wish.

    Thanks in advance!

    My pleasure! Please feel free to stop in again anytime you need a helping hand :-)

    * - Star Trek, ** - Inconceivable!

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  39. Flashing Lights and/or Whirligigs. by s388 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The police apparently learned what bombs look like from hollywood movies and comic books.

    The MPAA should definitely foot the bill.

    1. Re:Flashing Lights and/or Whirligigs. by Dilaudid · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The police apparently learned what bombs look like from hollywood movies and comic books. Modded funny but it should be modded insightful. Homeland and other security types appear to have understood the least important 5% of how to deal with risk - look out for the obvious. This should be a last chance precaution to make sure something awful isn't happening. Unfortunately they appear to have made it 50% of their strategy.

      The other lesson they seem to have learnt is how to avoid the precise event that just happened - so airport security bans knives (despite the high probability that a terrorist with just a knife would get beaten to death on an airplane now).
      They ban lighters and check the soles of your shoes (in case like Richard Reid, you choose to have an explosive, detonated via a burning fuse, in the bottom of your shoes).
      They ban liquids, but not malleable plasticised materials, on the grounds that people once planned to use liquid explosives.

      The parrot like nature of the security services is frankly embarassing. I can see two reasons why they do this - 1) fear of getting fired - if a terrorist does something exactly the same way and succeeds a second time then you look grossly incompetent, and will get fired, and 2) security does not attract the brightest sparks. The better wages and conditions in the private sector, IT, meds, energy etc. attract away the intelligent people we need running this stuff.

      This ad campaign won't do anything to fix it, didn't even try, but the ad geek who came up with it deserves massive respect. Exposing publicly funded stupidity like this deserves an award. I just hope that many many heads roll.
  40. Re:Isn't it funny that.... by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sooo, we should have detonated New Orleans?

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  41. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I attach a note to the device saying "this is a sound monitoring device for project XXX. If you have any questions, call John Smith at (617) 555-8944. Oh, Great! Just Great! Now you've given those terrorists yet another idea! Thank you very much, mister smarty pants!

    <hides in bomb shelter due to suspicious-looking cereal box on counter>
  42. from a Bostonian by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Funny

    Likewise I've only heard Boston-based posters complaining about how this was irresponsible and something that obviously looked a lot like a bomb so it needed to be investigated.

    I'm from Boston. I stood on the subway for a over an hour (normal ride time: 30 minutes or so) because of these dipshit "indie" artists that did this for Turner. Check out one of their websites. Wow, aren't they cool? They know how to use animation programs, video projectors, video cameras, and have dreadlocks. They use pen-names that sound uber-cool, and lots of hip artist-y language.

    They should have heard the language on the subway when the conductor announced we'd be delayed because Sullivan Station was shut down on account of "a suspicious package."

    Their stunt shut down 93 North, the orange line, several Charles River bridges (which are heavily trafficked.) These idiots planted electronic devices on private and public property, something they knew they shouldn't do, over-reactions from police aside. Let's be absolutely clear here: these clowns had zero business putting this stuff on property that wasn't theirs and they knew it, but decided to ignore that, because this whole thing probably made them some pot money.

    One of them is sitting in jail, as of about half an hour ago. Let's see how he likes being inconvenienced.

    1. Re:from a Bostonian by realityfighter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like Boston has a healthy appreciation of the arts.

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    2. Re:from a Bostonian by metamatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Their stunt shut down 93 North, the orange line, several Charles River bridges (which are heavily trafficked.)

      No, the authorities shut down everything, in a massive overreaction to what was obviously an art project or a harmless prank.

      My first thought on seeing a big flashing LED display attached to a bridge would be "Ah, MIT students playing again." I'm seriously surprised the Boston police didn't consider that the explanation. Are they unaware of all the previous MIT pranks?

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    3. Re:from a Bostonian by Skapare · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I stood on the subway for a over an hour (normal ride time: 30 minutes or so) because of these dipshit "indie" artists that did this for Turner.

      NO ... you stood on the subway for over an hour because your city is run by a bunch of incompetent jackasses that only know how to overreact and create a panic over a bunch of blinking lights that had been there for days with no problems. You stood on the subway for over an hour because someone saw that one of these signs was flipping the bird and them and got pissed off and called in (on a payphone) to the city and claimed it was a bomb (this act being the hoax act).

      You'll probably have a lot more of this in Boston in the future, too, if you don't admit that it is the fault of the city and do what it takes to get some major turnover to get some competent people running the place. Remember, it didn't cause a panic in any of the several other cities they showed up in. The rest of the country is laughing at Boston and all those headless chickens in police uniforms running around. The feeling you should have right now is one of embarassment and shame (if you're supporting those city people that did this).

      Their stunt shut down 93 North, the orange line, several Charles River bridges (which are heavily trafficked.)

      No it didn't. The devices were there for days. And they were in other cities, too. It was the stupid incompetent police/city officials that shut things down. The rest of us are laughing at Boston.

      One of them is sitting in jail, as of about half an hour ago. Let's see how he likes being inconvenienced.

      He should be there for trespassing and vandalism. That's the first crime that was done. The next crime was days later, and was done by some yet-unnamed incompetent city official who, unlike his counterparts in other cities, doesn't have a clue. The police really arrested this guy to try to cover up their own incompetence.

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  43. Dude. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Real IEDs do not have flashing lights or a ticking clock on them, unlike the movies would have you believe.

    How anyone could confuse these things for anything dangerous makes me wonder how incredibly stupid the people in charge of our security really are.

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    1. Re:Dude. by Trogre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Great. So all Mr Ackmuhllakhmud has to do is cover his nail bomb on the sidewalk with pretty flashing lights and the authorities will just call it art and ignore it.

      Just because a bomb doesn't need flashing lights or ticking clocks don't assume for a second that something fitting that description is harmless. Darwin awards aside, I'd just as soon not see you get hurt.

      How quickly people seem to forget events such as the Oklohoma bombings or 9/11. Just because Cmdr Cookoo in the Whitehouse uses terrorism as an excuse to push through crazy laws to restrict our freedom doesn't mean that terrorism is not a very, very real threat. The american dream of some zero-vigilance 1950's utopia died long ago, if it ever existed. Modern ballistics and bomb chemistry have irreversibly changed the survival traits for societies.

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  44. Beats the hell out of talking about... by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the Scooter Libby trial, where "copies of handwritten notes by Vice President Dick Cheney, introduced at trial by defense attorneys for former White House staffer I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, would appear to implicate George W. Bush in the Plame CIA Leak case". http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/013107Z.shtml

    If there's one thing you can rely on, it's bad news for the Adminstration being accompanied by a hyped-up terror scare that turns out to be nothing.

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  45. Re:Isn't it funny that.... by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...it only took a hours to blow up a LiteBrite but it took weeks to respond to a devastating hurricane?

    This is insightful?

    Would the "weeks" it took to respond to Katrina include the Coast Guard flying of people off of their rooftops the same day the storm blew through? Or are you thinking more about the days in advance of that hurricane that the mayor of that town and the governor of that state wasted in not actually evacuating the city's residents (you know, the ones not complying with the evacuation order) with their sitting-idle fleet of buses? Why talk about response to a major disaster when you can talk about the choice to live below sea level where hurricanes regularly hit, and then not leaving town when you're told to?

    Doesn't matter. You're obviously a trolling twit. Or, you're serious, and also say completely non-non-sequitorish things like, "Isn't it funny that poor people get cancer when the NSA now has ways to back up petabytes of data in a drinking straw?"

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  46. Re:State of our Paranoid Law Enforcement by amazon10x · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't really matter what it is that they confiscate. If you don't file the paperwork you're not going to get it back.
    They seem to have confiscated my freedoms. Is there a form I can file to get those back?
  47. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Informative
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  48. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, he did say it was for "Project XXX"!

  49. From an American by Xenographic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > I'm from Boston. I stood on the subway for a over an hour (normal ride time: 30 minutes or so) because of these dipshit "indie" artists that did this for Turner.

    Dude, grow a pair instead of getting pissy because you got stuck on the subway for a few minutes.

    Some dumbass got freaked out by a glorified Lite Brite. I hate to break this to you, but circuit boards don't explode, nor do LEDs, nor do Duracell D cell batteries, nor do wires. If your city gets this freaked over nothing, any sensible terrorist would just plant a bunch of hoaxes and laugh while you all piss yourself.

    You don't want to help the terrorists win, do you? :]

  50. Get the facts by Otto · · Score: 3, Informative

    There was only 1 on a bridge/overpass, and we're not talking about an above water bridge here.

    Link to pics of all the locations of these things: http://www.zebbler.com/friends/ATHF/mission1/missi on1.html

    The thing is *obviously* not a bomb. It's a sign. It has big glowing flashing LEDs. Come on. Use your brain, people.

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    1. Re:Get the facts by bobcote · · Score: 3, Informative

      Let's all have our fun and snicker at the people who don't recognize late night cartoon characters.

      Since few members of the Boston and Massachusetts State Police have the time to sit around watching late night cartoon characters or reading about how cool guerilla marketing is, we can understand why they did not recognize the character these devices.

      Better safe than sorry is more than an old saying your grandmother used while admonishing you to take an umbrella.

      Rule 1 of IEDs - Make them look like something else.
      Rule 2 - Place them where they can do the most damage.

      These devices met the criteria.

      On a less dire note, there is a reason cities have permitting requirements before signs, illuminated or not, are put up. One of the reasons is to avoid creating an unsafe environment.

      As a taxpayer in Massachusetts, I want Time Warner to pony up the cost of the public safety overtime. I's also like them to reimburse the lost wages of all of the hourly employees stuck on busses and subway trains, but that will never happen.

  51. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by mypalmike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it doesn't take a genius to figure out that a problem like this might happen

    A filing cabinet left out on a sidewalk would be overlooked for weeks in some parts of Boston and most other cities, and yet pose a much more significant danger.

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  52. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pipe bombs? Ha! in the thirth grade they taught us to make NBC weapons! My bird flu even made the news all around the world. Well, biocontainment wasn't taught before grade four...

  53. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Richard_at_work · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I distinctly remember going to school aged 6 or 7 in Northern Ireland as a dependant of a British military personel toward the mid 1980s and being having a regular 'security' class taken by someone in combat fatigues every week (IE someone from the military). In that class we were shown explosive device designs in use by the IRA at that time - pipe bombs, nail bombs et al, anything we should not ever touch in any circumstance if we found.

    I also went to school in Berlin toward the end of the 1980s (yes, I was there for the wall coming down) and there were adverts on TV (BFBC iirc) that detailed carbombs and how to check for them, along with what to look out for with regard to suspicious persons.

    Some of us grew up in a security climate vastly worse than the current one. And no, Im not the AC above.

  54. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by drgonzo59 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Unfortunately that is how the human brain works -- big, dramatic crashes/explosions/accidents where a lot of people like us die, registers as 'HOLY CRAP, WE HAVE TO AVOID THIS SHIT AT ALL COST'. It is important for the event to be memorable so media will play a part in this, it is important that people be like us because if say 10000 Somalis would have died from a terrorist act, the media would have dropped the story withing a week! Now that was enough to damage the brains of hundreds of millions of Americans. A rational human being would realize that the their odds of dying in a terrorist act is orders of magnitude lower than being killed by a heart attack, asthma, cancer, car accident, their backyard pool, probably even by lightning. So the only way to stop this obsession with terrorism is to get _smarter_, more _rational_ .. and I don't see that happening anytime soon in the 'ol U.S. of A.


    Also, let's look at terrorism from the point of view of your Joe Sixpack Homeland Security Officer (JSHSO), or any other dude from the executive branch of the govt., They sit all day on their asses (a lot more positions were created after 9/11), get payed loads of money (more $$$ was budgeted for war on terror) and are waiting for the terrorists to attack. Well, according to the probability mentioned above, the chance of a large terrorist attack is very slim, and JSHSO is getting pretty bored. He was trained to sniff out terrorists, pop their eyes out and skullfuck the empty sockets. So are we really that surprised that they will see terrorists in every Middle Eastern person, a bomb in every blinking light, and will pull the 'OMFG! TERRORISTS ARE COMING!' trigger on every shadow. This gets their blood going, they get a high when they get to close down half a city. Then they realize how stupid they are and arrest someone so they can turn them into a scapegoat. This justifies their job position, they get to go home at the end of the day and tell their kids that 'Daddy stopped Osama today, he disarmed bombs with blinking lights that had nazi jihadists flicking Americans off'


    It is pretty obvious that the terrorists already won. They wanted us to be do this and we are doing it. It is about time to smarten up. If we really want to live longer and safe, we should not smoke, drive more carefully, watch what we eat, watch our step when we get in and out of the shower and other stuff like that.

  55. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Shaper_pmp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "You have to take these all seriously, because who knows if they're threats or not?"

    Do you wear an earthed metal hat whenever you go out and the weather's a bit dodgy? Have you plastered your children and housepets in flexible Faraday cages?

    Go look up the chances of being killed in a terrorist attack, and then the chances of being hit by lightning.

    If you always wear lightning-proof headgear and earthed metal underwear in the rain, then rant away.

    If not, your response is fact-free, emotion-not-intelligence-prompted horseshit caused by media over-reporting and sensationalising that has no place in a serious debate.

    Seriously - what the fuck makes idiots assume that just because three people got killed by terrorists in Buttfuck, Arkensas that suddenly now everyone has to have chips in their heads and hand in their genitals for safe keeping by the government?

    Look up the statistics - you're more likely to be hit by lightning than killed in a terrorist attack. So if you don't spend the same amount of time worrying about lightning as you spend worring about "t3h T3rr0R1sTs!!11!1!" you're being a nervous jumpy fuckwit.

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  56. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would expect an interesting time at the next shareholder's meeting though (and hopefully a huge fine to spur the conversation along).

    And I would expect it to go something like "Holy shit, that ad campaign got more attention that we ever DREAMED it would! The resulting increased receipts from the ATHF movie more than cover the cost of the fines we had to pay, so free hookers and blow for everybody!"

  57. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    so free hookers and blow for everybody!"

    We're all in the wrong business, aren't we?

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  58. Re:Who's the @**hole now! by Skapare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only fine that is justified here is for the trespassing and vandalism. Nothing more than that should be paid. Let the idiots who decided this was a hoax (it was NOT a hoax) and the idiots that decided it was a bomb (it was NOT a bomb and didn't even look anywhere near like a bomb ... as determined by officials in some other cities like Seattle) pay the fine. Or better yet, let them lose their jobs so people can come visit Boston some day in the future knowing that the city isn't going to overreact.

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