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Microsoft Blasts IBM Over XML Standards

carlmenezes writes "Ars Technica has up an article discussing Microsoft's latest salvo against IBM. Microsoft's open letter to IBM adds fresh ammunition to the battle of words between those who support Microsoft's Open XML and OpenOffice.org's OpenDocument file formats. Microsoft has strong words for IBM, which it accuses of deliberately trying to sabotage Microsoft's attempt to get Open XML certified as a standard by the ECMA. In the letter, general managers Tom Robertson and Jean Paol write: 'When ODF was under consideration, Microsoft made no effort to slow down the process because we recognized customers' interest in the standardization of document formats.' In contrast, the authors charge that IBM 'led a global campaign' urging that governments and other organizations demand that International Standards Organization (ISO) reject Open XML outright."

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  1. IBM or Microsoft by pipatron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Help! I just bought a ThinkPad (yes, IBM, not Lenovo). I run Windows on it. Which side should I take?!

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    1. Re:IBM or Microsoft by jackharrer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Rip off all the stickers, starting with Windows Genuine Certificate at the bottom...
      Install Linux, pretend that your laptop is a generic Chinese copy...
      Have peace of mind, start coding...

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    2. Re:IBM or Microsoft by Chris_Stankowitz · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hmm. Assuming you have no budget and no alternative computing facilities..

      Could the IBM product function without the MS one ? Yes, you could download an alternative OS for free.
      Could the MS product function without the IBM one ? No.

      Go with IBM, brother. When did Windows stop working on other Laptop/Desktop models...wait, don't answer that.

      Chris-
    3. Re:IBM or Microsoft by Bob54321 · · Score: 4, Funny

      My laptops designed for Windows sticker is on the fridge in my old flat. I just hope a Slashdot reader got that house and thought "I knew I could run Linux on a toaster, but Windows on a fridge..."

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    4. Re:IBM or Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wouldn't worry at all, Windows is very good at freezing.

    5. Re:IBM or Microsoft by jopsen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice... My designed for windows sticker is on my trash can, since windows was designed for it :)

    6. Re:IBM or Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone got windows to work, seriously?
      Amazingly enough, it seems only the hard-core *nix users are incapable of correctly running and administering Windows PC.
  2. Open XML is an open standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And it performs brilliantly with any product you want: MS Office Ultimate 2007, MS Office Professional 2007, MS Office Enterprise 2007, MS Office Standard 2007, or MS Office Small Business 2007.

    Details here.

  3. why would IBM do such a thing? by FredDC · · Score: 2, Funny

    Given Microsoft's amazing track record at standardization!

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    1. Re:why would IBM do such a thing? by GundamFan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Were sorry this comment is not compatible with Slashdot '97. We can open it but it will require us to arbitrarily break the formating. To keep from seeing this message please upgrade to the latest version of Slashdot.

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  4. (unofficial) IBM response (except not IBM) by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey Microsoft! We don't just hate you: fact is, your OpenXML spec is an appalling dump heap overflowing with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable, mangled up in tangled up knots! I mean, we at IBM know a brain-damaged document format when we see one (heck, we invented plenty of them ourselves) and trust us, this one takes the cake. Ratification of this garbage could set the word processing industry back about twenty years. So don't give us the "customer's interest" line. We know what this is all about: this is about YOU.

    Disclaimer: I don't work for IBM (anymore|yet) and these ain't IBM opinions. Well, not official opinions, anyway. ^^

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  5. Re:I don't know about you guys by GundamFan · · Score: 1, Funny

    What the heck kind of open document format requires a rocket scientist to figure out it sucks? Most rocket scientists know more about you know... rockets and stuff.

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  6. Whats that I hear? by ace418 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whats that Microsoft? IBM did what? Uh huh... uh huh... You sure? uh huh... Quick Somebody call Whine-1-1, and request a Whaaaaambulance!

  7. ECMA approval by Ikyaat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Since the trailer park boys are hosting the ECMA's this year maybe they could get approval by some carefully placed bribes of Donairs and cigarettes.

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  8. Re:Microsoft is being disingenuous by Chacham · · Score: 2, Funny

    they raised holy hell

    I'm not sure which is more amazing, that they made Hell holy, or that they raised it.

    Considering though we're talking about Microsoft, i'm not sure it needs to make sense.

  9. Re:Microsoft is being disingenuous by brennanw · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well they were running Unholy Hell 1.0 and found a bug...

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  10. Re:They both suck. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, sir, do I have good news for you.

    There is a new viewer/editor program for OpenOffice.org files called, wait for it, "OpenOffice.org."

    After installing the new OpenOffice.org file viewer/editor program, you will have the ability to open, view, edit and close ODF files without needing a separate compression utility.

    It's like MAGIC!

  11. Re:They both suck. by arevos · · Score: 1, Funny

    That's easy enough to do on a system like Linux, that comes with gzip, unzip, and other decompress programs by default. But on Windows it's a massive pain in the ass. Last I checked, Windows XP could open ZIP files without any third party software. Simply changing the file extension to ".zip" does not seem a massive pain in the ass to me.
  12. Re:They cannot possibly be serious. by IPFreely · · Score: 2, Funny

    Considering that MS has been the leading poster child for dirty, underhanded (and a few illegal) anti-competative practices for the last quarter century, it's more like the black hole calling the kettle black.

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  13. the kicker: by mstone · · Score: 3, Funny

    -- Please enter your password to confirm your password confirmation.

  14. Re:They both suck. by rossz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I know you're making this up. You can't right click on a Mac.

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  15. Re:They both suck. by greenbird · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to work where you do. Document size is always a concern in my department when we are dealing with 5,000,000+ page runs.

    Is that the spec for OpenXML 2009?

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