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How Scientific Paradigms Relate

Here is a giant chart mapping relationships among scientific paradigms, as published in the journal Nature. This map was constructed by sorting roughly 800,000 published papers into 776 different scientific paradigms (shown as pale circular nodes) based on how often the papers were cited together by authors of other papers. Information Esthetics, an organization founded by map co-creator W. Bradford Paley, is giving away 25" x 24" prints of the Map of Science (you pay postage and handling via PayPal). There are also links to a 3000+ pixel wide jpg of the chart. It would be all one long spectrum except for Computer Science, which makes the connection (via AI) between the hard sciences and the soft sciences.

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  1. Cool by pembo13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Geek porn

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    1. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, if I had a 3000+ pixel-wide display, I'd totally set this as my wallpaper /me drools

    2. Re:Cool by ROMRIX · · Score: 1

      Geek porn
      I found only parts of the chart that interesting, which made it really bizarre during circular references and cross linking, causing rapid fire repetitive redundant priapismic episodes.
    3. Re:Cool by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      Geek porn I found only parts of the chart that interesting, which made it really bizarre during circular references and cross linking, causing rapid fire repetitive redundant priapismic episodes. And it's pretty hairy too!
  2. Uh oh... by Null+Nihils · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are also links to a 3000+ pixel wide jpg of the chart.
    Soon to be links to a 3000+ degree lump of molten webserver. :)
    1. Re:Uh oh... by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      3000+ degree of molten webserver ?

      Not this late at night. They still have a chance to crank up the refrigeration for the server room. Moscow is just waking up, and the US won't come online for another 8- 10 hours. So they have something of a prayer.

      The beeper of the webmaster should be going off in Australia just about now, and we can all imagine the panicked cursing as he realizes that he won't be able to make it to the beach because he's going to be busy arranging co-location services for the rest of the afternoon.

      If you were the webmaster, what would your solution be?

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    2. Re:Uh oh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple, just block American IPs for eight hours, then switch to Europe for another eight, finally blocking India, Japan, Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore in the last stretch. Easy.

    3. Re:Uh oh... by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are also links to a 3000+ pixel wide jpg of the chart.

      These guys have it all backwards--Slashdotters are supposed to crash their computers, not the other way around!

      - RG>
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  3. An obvious hoax by jlowery · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Social Science is next door neighbor to Computer Science?? Give me a break! Somebody jumped the April Fool's gun.

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    1. Re:An obvious hoax by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      Social Science is next door neighbor to Computer Science?? Give me a break! Somebody jumped the April Fool's gun.

      That's the link via the Artificial Intelligence papers. Otherwise the loop is pretty much broken.

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    2. Re:An obvious hoax by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, there's no way there's any overlap in terms of areas like
      1. Information theory(99% of computer science)
      2. psychology(AI)
      3. human response(GUIs)

      Computer science is closer to social sciences than it is to cell biology in terms of what paradigm actually means. Other than mathematics, I can see nothing on that page that better matches computer science in terms of what kind of questions are asked, how they are posed, and how research is interpretted.
    3. Re:An obvious hoax by be-fan · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are lots of links. For example, there are lots of connections between the development of syntax and grammers in linguistics and the work on syntax and grammer in computer languages.

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    4. Re:An obvious hoax by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      There are lots of links. For example, there are lots of connections between the development of syntax and grammers in linguistics and the work on syntax and grammer in computer languages. which also makes sense.
  4. So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That show a problem with the way people think about science. Read E. O. Wilson's Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge on why we should apply the scientific method to all field, even humanities, and why we should try to speak about all fields with a common language.

    For instance, an example of applying science to humanities, would be writing about history in a scientific way. May not seem important if you view the people on Earth in as the only society, but if you were trying to compare the history of peoples on many different planets, then it would be very important.

    People with a computer science background should know the importance of having a common language to speak, or speaking in the simplest terms. If someone throws acronyms at you, they likely don't know what they are talking about. All field, psychology, history, and cs are related. They should use common terms, or so Wilson would have you believe.

    A truly liberal education would show you that all fields relate, and depend on one another.

    1. Re:So sad... by FMota91 · · Score: 0

      People with a computer science background should know the importance of having a common language to speak, or speaking in the simplest terms. If someone throws acronyms at you, they likely don't know what they are talking about. All field, psychology, history, and cs are related. They should use common terms, or so Wilson would have you believe.
      I'll let you draw your own conclusions...
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    2. Re:So sad... by maxume · · Score: 1

      Historians already work in scientific ways. Wilson's point is more that if they work long enough, and gather enough data, that they will construct reasonable 'theories of history' that describe how different histories are related.

      He spends much of the book illustrating how new knowledge has pretty much only ever broken down walls between fields, not built them, in support of the notion that it is possible to create scientific theories in the 'softer' sciences. Great read.

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    3. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't know. I think you should be able to explain stuff in simple terms. I'm not promoting COBOL here. I just hear people in high places talk about how complex computers are, when they can only do three basic things (read, write (disk or device), and process). You have to know people try to sound smart by using, often incorrectly, larger words. I've had doctors try to pass their ignorance off on me enough. Anyway, if you can't explain something in simple terms, you don't know what it is. And quizzing someone on an acronym they are unfamiliar with, doesn't help figure out what they really know.

    4. Re:So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the book since 1999, and I haven't taken many higher level history classes, so I'm not sure how they teach it today. Though I would agree that new knowledge has broken the walls between field, by showing that the field relate, many people tend to build walls with field specific grammar.

      I saw Wilson lecture on his new book, The Creation. Very interesting, but I got the feeling that he was repacking the same info for the political climate of today (ie. the culture wars). Brilliant guy though. I know he makes the point that it's not often that scientist are able to put their thoughts into words. He's an example of a scientist who can write and convey complex ideas.

    5. Re:So sad... by linguizic · · Score: 1

      Indeed a great read.

      One of the major, I mean MAJOR themes of that book was to show the importance of reductionism. To explain history it would need to be reduced to the individual psychologies of individuals and the social psychologies of the societies they belonged to.

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    6. Re:So sad... by espressojim · · Score: 1

      You should be able to explain things in simple terms, but for those of us familiar with the intermediate/complex stuff, we just don't have the time to hear explainations from the ground up every time. If I want to work with genomic data, you don't have to explain central dogma to me every time you are going to get into the topic.

      These complex words are just shortcuts to sets of related knowledge. If you don't know certain key words (not acronyms, but words), I'll have an idea of what you don't know. For example, if I say relational database, and you pull out an excel file, I'll know you're not the architect I'm looking for.

    7. Re:So sad... by linguizic · · Score: 1
      FTA:

      This map was constructed by sorting roughly 800,000 published papers into 776 different scientific paradigms (shown as pale circular nodes) based on how often the papers were cited together by authors of other papers. Links (curved black lines) were made between the paradigms that shared papers, then treated as rubber bands, holding similar paradigms nearer one another when a physical simulation forced every paradigm to repel every other; thus the layout derives directly from the data.
      What Wilson described in Concilience was a picture of our knowledge of the universe as we traverse the different levels of organization, this map has nothing to do with levels of organization, just what papers are getting published under what paradigm.
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    8. Re:So sad... by khallow · · Score: 1

      It's not clear to me why there can be much less should be a common vocabulary for all of scientific knowledge. Anyone knowledgeable knows how to speak the lingo. And I don't see the point of attempting to unify vocabulary when some words have potentially dozens of meanings depending on the context.

    9. Re:So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 1

      For example, if I say relational database, and you pull out an excel file, I'll know you're not the architect I'm looking for.

      Good point. But if you say context switch, and I look confused because I learned that as a process switch, it doesn't mean I'm confused about operating systems or the multi-threaded programming used to create them.

    10. Re:So sad... by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      "why we should apply the scientific method to all field, even humanities, and why we should try to speak about all fields with a common language."

      I agree with you on that point. We should apply the scientific method to all fields. It sounds like you are saying that Wilson is saying that if we apply the scientific method to more areas of thought, that knowledge would be more useful, and it would make our daily lives easier. I agree with that. However, that only covers one motivation to do science, or any other knowledge-gathering endeavor. Some people want to make things easier; others want to know more and understand our world. Science began as an investigation for "The Truth", not any particular practical application of The Truth, though that would be a bonus. However, I think we should also continue to do non-scientific study of appropriate fields. I'm not talking about ESP research or stuff like that, but the field of history comes to mind. A couple of thoughts:

      Generally, the scientific method has a certain presuppositions. These aren't strictly defined anywhere, and they have morphed a little throughout the centuries. But, basically, scientific investigation assumes that - the universe is governed by laws, - these laws are logical, consistent, and eternal throughout time and space, and - these laws are knowable. Furthermore, there is the 'method' part of the scientific method where you do an experiment. Typically this involves eliminated variables, a control group and an experimental group, double-blind methodology, etc. etc.

      I think there are some parts of the universe that can't really be investigated or understood scientifically. One example is the past. In history, we are writing about what people did in the past ( even if you are writing about 'present' events, there is some lag between the event itself and the time of writing.) Are there historians who say that the course of human events are governed by laws? If so, what are some of those laws ( or at least one )? I've heard of the laws of physics, but I've never heard of the laws of history. If we did have a guess as to what one of those laws might be, how could we construct an experiment to test that law? We can't go back in time to see how Genghis Khan would have reacted to any change we might introduce. I've heard it said that a scientific theory can explain the past ( i.e. why was Mercury observed to be in this part of the sky 1000 years ago? ) and predict the future ( i.e. where will Mercury be on 8 PM Oct. 11th 2014? ) -- and I've certainly never heard of any serious historian claiming they could predict the future. So how would you do a scientific investigation of history?

      I'm guessing Wilson has an answer, so I will get out his book. But perhaps you could put it in a nutshell for me? Perhaps Wilson is defining science so it's not the science we are typically familiar with?

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    11. Re:So sad... by 2Bits · · Score: 1

      What you are saying seems like a laudable goal, but in order to achieve that goal, you are assuming that everyone (at least those involved in scientific research) needs to be expert in a lot of fields. At the rate we are generating "knowledge" right now, it is already very hard for a single person to know a single field in depth, let alone having the breadth to cover more than one field.

      Let's take Physics or Math. Any physicist or mathematician can claim to know every single branch of Physics or Math in depth? You might have breadth, but will have to sacrifice depth, which means that you wouldn't be able to advance a certain field even further. In that case, you might be good in a lot of things, but great in nothing.

    12. Re:So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 1
      My gut feeling is history is often written by the winners, and it's not very accurate. Science is dispassionate, or should be, but most historians seem passionate, and have a stake in the outcome. Perhaps Wilson just saying that we apply the scientific method in a dispassionate way to our history. There are tons of questions that could be answered that way. For instance, why did the buildings collapse in NY, why did certain diseases hurt certain populations and not others, why did humans migrate in certain patterns, how were the pyramids built, how was the knowledge gained to build the pyramids? You can apply the scientific method to all these questions, and you may come up with answers that are different for what our history says. But history is just one small example of applying science to a humanity.

      Perhaps take literature as an example. Why does Shakespeare write better than I? Merging that with history, and ask why does Alexander Pushkin write in a different language than Shakespeare? Seems obvious, but that could be because of our, or just my, ignorance. If you find out the real scientific reason why, then literature might be closer to neurosurgery. Toss me in the mix, and I'll want to apply it to AI.

      If you get that far, you could use science to study the history of other species, and why they don't write poetry, or why some other society far away might.

      I'll leave you with a poem that Wilson may or may not enjoy:

      Memory, prophecy, and fantasy
      the past, the future, and the dreaming moment between
      are all one country,
      living one immortal day.
      To know that is Wisdom.
      To use it is the Art.


      I guess the point of that is, the past isn't that far away. I doubt the past went anywhere. It's still here.

      Now, you say "can't go back in time to see how Genghis Khan would have reacted to any change we might introduce." That is true, and Wilson agrees. But, I think he believes it's because the history was written poorly. That is why he's pushing for a unity of knowledge. He wants us to write the history in a more scientific and dispassionate way, so we can study these changes. Instead we rely on the corporate media in most cases.

      Anyway, history is just a topic I brought up. He writes about it in his book, but I'm not sure how much of a focus it is.

      Ok, one more example. We are planing a trip to the moon in ten or twenty years. NASA didn't keep a scientific record of the last Lunar landing. If they did, it would help us in the next trip. If they kept better historical records, we would benefit today. You could come up with other theories about that, apply the scientific method to that, and you may also benefit.

      Cheers!
    13. Re:So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it has something to do with simplifying the language. The math I understand, I understand because I can read the equations. I know algebra, because I know that it's about doing whatever you must to find the value of x, and not really about knowing to do the same operations to both sides of an equation. It's not hard to understand calc if you know that you are looking for the rate of change, but somehow mathematicians find a way to make that incredibly hard. They should try to make it easier. Again, I'm not advocating COLBOL. But, I advocate writing your scientific findings in a way that interested people can understand without having to get an advanced degree. That way, we can share the knowledge across fields.

    14. Re:So sad... by Slipgrid · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he says they should all be published under the same paradigm, and not in clear groups as shown by the graph. If there's a concilience of the language that we use, this could happen.

    15. Re:So sad... by renoX · · Score: 1

      >we should apply the scientific method to all field, even humanities

      Given that for many 'humanities' field, there is no way to do experiment and that fact perceptions is highly subjective, I fail to see how this is possible.

      >would be writing about history in a scientific way

      That's nearly impossible, unless you relate 'raw facts' without interpretation, I'm not sure that it is very interesting.

    16. Re:So sad... by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      That show a problem with the way people think... What show(s?) a problem? I can't read your mind, you know...
    17. Re:So sad... by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he says they should all be published under the same paradigm, and not in clear groups as shown by the graph. If there's a concilience of the language that we use, this could happen. Like just one big pale circle!
    18. Re:So sad... by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      My gut feeling is history is often written by the winners, and it's not very accurate. Is that what makes you so sad?

      Merging [literature] with history, why does Alexander Pushkin write in a different language than Shakespeare? Seems obvious, but that could be because of our, or just my, ignorance. Do you mean: maybe Pushkin did not write in Russian because he lived in Russia, or something?

      I'll leave you with a poem that Wilson may or may not enjoy[...] And what if he would not enjoy it?

      Now, you say "can't go back in time to see how Genghis Khan would have reacted to any change we might introduce." That is true, and Wilson agrees. But, I think he believes it's because the history was written poorly. That is why he's pushing for a unity of knowledge. He wants us to write the history in a more scientific and dispassionate way, so we can study these changes. Instead we rely on the corporate media in most cases. So I gather that you think that Wilson thinks that history is written in a less scientific and more passionate way or something?

      Cheers! You too dude!
    19. Re:So sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, the graph, or the article that was being replied to.

    20. Re:So sad... by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 1

      If so, what are some of those laws ( or at least one )? Well if we just told you, you'd no longer obey them!

      - The Second Foundation
  5. I bought one.. by QuantumG · · Score: 1, Funny

    it'll probably show up in 6 months time and I'll be like "what the fuck is this?"

    Look good on my wall though.

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    1. Re:I bought one.. by maxume · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:I bought one.. by behindthewall · · Score: 1

      Were you comfortable with the purchase options / apparent security of the site? I was tempted, but dissuaded by having no information what kind of a transaction I would be required to complete and what their security measures are.

    3. Re:I bought one.. by behindthewall · · Score: 1

      Tired. Realizing the inanity of my previous post. Of course you were comfortable. I guess what I'm asking is: What are the options?

    4. Re:I bought one.. by behindthewall · · Score: 2, Funny

      Argh! In the original summary -- actual useful information. PayPal. Ok.

      Not only am I tired, I am blind. A good, good sign to go home before I erase Alaska here, or something.

    5. Re:I bought one.. by gammaxy · · Score: 1

      I ALMOST bought one. I tried to get four of them shipped to me, but after I entered all my information and submitted the form, it showed me someone else's shipping information. Makes me wonder if the site is designed to handle more than one order at a time. It is a pretty neat looking poster nonetheless.

    6. Re:I bought one.. by wbpaley2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I apologise profoundly for this. (I was one of the co-creators of the poster, and the Information Esthetics organization distributing the print is my responsibility.)

      We are using a standard Drupal shopping module and I have received two reports of this. I am sure others have seen the problem and not reported it.

      We have a Drupal guru looking at that code, and hundreds of orders have cleard fine, but for now I suggest people do exactly what gammaxy did: if someone else's information show up, wait until tomorrow.

      I will remain personally responsible for any mis-charged or undelivered prints. You may find me by Google-ing "Brad Paley": e-mail addresses are available on my various Web sites.

      Thank you for the interest! Sorry about the glitch.

      Kind Regards, Brad

    7. Re:I bought one.. by cyberkreiger · · Score: 1

      Well, that's PHP for you.

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  6. Engineering & Computer Science by negative3 · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Their "Computer Science" grouping is odd - one of the "paradigms" is "multiple antenna, selective fading, smart antenna,..." which are not computer science topics, they're EE/wireless communications topics.
    Some aspects of Computer Science and EE are definitely closely related, but this is kind of weird. Engineering seems under-represented - if there were a lot of engineering disciplines included (EE, Computer, mechanical, aerospace, etc.) but not under any sort of "engineering" heading, why is "applied physics" so small?
    Cool chart nonetheless. This was a huge amount of info to sort through and graphically represent.

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    1. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a hint: it's a science chart.

      You might as well be complaining that they didn't include snowboarding.

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    2. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, engineering != science

      Also, most of what is called "computer science" isn't science either -- it's software engineering or design

    3. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, wtf they didn't even include snowboarding!

    4. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by Alien54 · · Score: 1

      If you look at the link to mapofscience.com, the menu widgets at the right let you highlight individual areas, including Engineering. Similar functionality is seem in the other topic areas

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    5. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by maxume · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a theory that some of the best engineers are scientists who think "I could know 'this' if only I could do 'that'", and some of the best scientists are engineers who think "I could do 'that' if only I knew 'this'".

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    6. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by femto · · Score: 1

      Historically they are Information Theory topics. Only recently, when we figured out how to build them, did they become engineering topics.

      Information theorists are typically drawn from the ranks of mathematics, engineering and computer science so the positioning between computer science and mathematics is expected. The close link to control theory is also expected.

      As others have pointed out the chart deals with academic papers, so it is telling you how the theory of each area is related. Building MIMO chips for mass production isn't in the domain covered by the chart, but if you want to understand the theoretical basis of the algorithms that such a chip implements you will need to know about Mathematics and Computer Science (and have a smattering of the other stuff linked to on the chart).

    7. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a theory about the brontosaurus.

    8. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So Engineering isn't science? Many engineers are not scientists, but by the same rule most computer science majors are not scientists. However, as many people are graduating each year with PhDs in the "engineering" disciplines, it seems to point that it is a science. The research in the engineering fields is sometimes more "applied", but not all of it is. There is much work being done, and it is kind of surprising that this chart doesn't directly show that.

    9. Re:Engineering & Computer Science by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      If you think that's odd, take a look at "Math". "EEG" and "epileptic" appear to occur more often in mathematical papers about nonlinear analysis than in medical papers.

  7. seedmagazine.com by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    I guess it's only natural that they would have podcasts

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  8. Tufte by Speare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That poster looks like Edward Tufte got sick after trying to make sense of all that information.

    Joke aside, it's gorgeous in the pure organic feel of it, but not particularly informative other than illustrative.

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  9. Where is the icon? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2, Funny

    That says "you are here"? Is it supported by any of the GPS devices being sold?

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    1. Re:Where is the icon? by GoPlus · · Score: 1

      Yes! GPS can run at any place

  10. all wrong -- no UFO science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows that UFO science led by the work at Area 52 (51 is a decoy) is what has propelled the US Economy for decades. Where is it on the charts?

    1. Re:all wrong -- no UFO science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks, Joe. It was a rhetorical question. You know what's really wrong with America? Nothing.

    2. Re:all wrong -- no UFO science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, everyone knows it's Areas #1 through #50 that are the real worry..

  11. it's proof... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the flying spaghetti monster exists!!!

  12. sounds like a totally new paradigm to me. by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    By the way, what *is* paradigm anyway?

    1. Re:sounds like a totally new paradigm to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      convention

    2. Re:sounds like a totally new paradigm to me. by flynt · · Score: 1

      If you don't have time to Read Thomas Kuhn's Structure of Scientific Revolutions, make time!

    3. Re:sounds like a totally new paradigm to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A paradigm is a nickel short of a quarter.

    4. Re:sounds like a totally new paradigm to me. by Bender0x7D1 · · Score: 1

      A paradigm is a model or pattern or maybe a framework. It is the general way of looking at or approaching things.

      We can see examples of different paradigms in software - procedural programming, functional programming, object oriented can all be considered paradigms. OO is a general way of doing things and breaks all the rules of functional programming - but it isn't wrong it is just a way of doing things. Within that paradigm we can come up with rules about what is good or allowed or bad, and it only applies to that paradigm. Examples in authoring - there are different methods, styles and approaches for newspapers, magazines, scientific journals, novels and textbooks. The magazine paradigm might use shorter sentences, avoid citations, have few, if any, charts and diagrams, and discuss things in the first person in a friendly casual way; while the journal paradigm would have many citations, graphs and use the third-person writing style and be more formalized.

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  13. Great example of CS / hard science crossover by greg_barton · · Score: 1

    At the last GECCO conference I saw a paper presented on the use of a genetic algorithm to speed up the simulation of certain chemical reactions:

    linky
    Google cache because the link is to a power point...

    Basically, a multiobjective GA was used to find parameter sets for chemical simulation equations that increased the speed of those simulations by a factor of 10x-103x. (And were more accurate, to boot.) That enables the reaction models to be more complex and, as the presentation stated, "lead potentially to new drugs, new materials, fundamental understanding of complex chemical phenomena."

    Cool stuff.

    1. Re:Great example of CS / hard science crossover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is doughnut shaped. Mmmm doughnuts!

  14. Philosophy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now circle the whole thing and label it 'philosophy.'

  15. Looks like a nebula by Alien54 · · Score: 1

    and it could probably be colorized that way....

    I can just imagine a UFO abductee seeing a similar chart of knowledge or biology or something on the wall of the starship, and think it was a map of the home nebula/star cluster.

    Could be useful as some sort of directory if the interface were appropriately interactive.

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    1. Re:Looks like a nebula by Speare · · Score: 1

      Hey, this is Unix! I know this!

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  16. If... by jd · · Score: 1

    ...I overlay the map of the Internet on top of the map of science, will I end up with a flow-chart of Windows?

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    1. Re:If... by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      Well you will end up with a complete mess, so it's very likely.

    2. Re:If... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      ...I overlay the map of the Internet on top of the map of science, will I end up with a flow-chart of Windows?

      Well, I've simplified it to make Windows do what it does faster:

      GOTO BSOD

  17. Paradigm != field of study by kurisuto · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think that this is a misuse of the word "paradigm."

    To closely quote Wikipedia, a paradigm is the set of practices that define a scientific discipline during a particular period of time. A paradigm is defined by science historian Thomas Kuhn to comprise the following:

    • what is to be observed and scrutinized,
    • the kind of questions that are supposed to be asked and probed for answers in relation to this subject,
    • how these questions are to be structured,
    • how the results of scientific investigations should be interpreted.


    It looks to me as if this chart does not show connectedness among "paradigms". It simply shows connectedness among various areas of study (as measured in terms of clusterings of bibliography citations).

    A paradigm change is something that happens within a single area of study, such as geology or linguistics. To look at connectedness among "paradigms", you'd have to look at the history of single fields, not the current interconnectedness among different fields.
    1. Re:Paradigm != field of study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that this is a misuse of the Kuhnian term, but the chart can still show interesting relationships between different fields of study. Of course, the mapping of each paper into one of 776 different categories is not in any way objective, so the graph isn't as purely data-generated as the blurb makes it sound.

    2. Re:Paradigm != field of study by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I think that this is a misuse of the word "paradigm."

      True - it does not resemble ten cents in any way whatsoever.

    3. Re:Paradigm != field of study by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      A physicist, a chemist and a biologist walk into a bar and order a jug of beer. The physicist notes, "Thats a fine angle of pour", the chemist comments, "And such a fine consistency of head", while the biologist says, "So, what time do you knock off?"

    4. Re:Paradigm != field of study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... you must be British.

    5. Re:Paradigm != field of study by Jeff250 · · Score: 1

      Paradigms do change (a la "paradigm shift"), but presumably this map isn't intended to illustrate the history of scientific paradigms, just the interplay of modern ones. Kuhn was more than willing to acknowledge that paradigms existed at different levels. For example, the global community of scientists share a paradigm. Further down the chain, we can say that scientists of different scientific topics, such as physicists and chemists, also have their own paradigms. More so, organic chemists have their own paradigms as compared to inorganic chemists, and so on. (This is laid out in Section 1 of his 1969 Postscript to Structure.)

      To illustrate this, in Structure, Kuhn gives the example of a distinguished physicist and chemist who were both asked, Is helium a molecule? The physicist says no, because it displays no molecular spectrum. The chemist said yes, since it behaved as one with respect to the kinetic theory of gases. This might not be the best example, but Kuhn uses this anecdote to demonstrate how the physicists and chemists' paradigms had overlap but were not coextensive, since their experience had led them to different understandings of what a molecule must be.

    6. Re:Paradigm != field of study by Prune · · Score: 1

      I'm not familiar with this "knock off" idiom. What is it?

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    7. Re:Paradigm != field of study by orin · · Score: 1

      If you'd read the Postscript to the 2nd edition of SSR you'd know that Kuhn owned up to 27 separate uses of the word paradigm in the original text. Kuhn stopped using Paradigm as a term all together by the 80's. But hey, if you think Wikipedia is a better resource than the original text itself ...

    8. Re:Paradigm != field of study by gbutler69 · · Score: 0

      I'm not British, but, I do know my biology: Knock Off => Get Off => "Get Off Work" => that is, "...what time can I pick you up?" (to waitress pouring beer).

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    9. Re:Paradigm != field of study by dmoen · · Score: 1

      The biologist is asking the waitress "At what time do you finish work?"

      Try the following Google search "define:knock off work"

      Doug Moen

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    10. Re:Paradigm != field of study by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      I think that this is a misuse of the word "paradigm." Paradigm is, if nothing else, one word that is hard to misuse. Let me give you an example from your own text:

      A paradigm change is something that happens within a single area of study, such as geology or linguistics. To look at connectedness among "paradigms", you'd have to look at the history of single fields, not the current interconnectedness among different fields. [I'm using italics instead of the bold text because it is kind of too much emphasize on "a single area of study". Just look at names of some fields in the chart, like "physical chemistry".]
    11. Re:Paradigm != field of study by lordmetroid · · Score: 1

      Also this map is severly flawed by axiom as the categorization can not be scientifically defined. Hence it's cool although potentially very innacurate.

  18. ordering problems by man_ls · · Score: 1

    I just tried to order a few of these.

    It took 3 tries to make the quantity and price function correctly.

    Then two more tries later, I had different people's names and addresses instead of my own.

    Then, I finally got to PayPal with my information, did the PayPal bit successfully, and then it told me "access denied" on returning to the merchant.

    *confused*

    1. Re:ordering problems by zen-theorist · · Score: 1

      I just tried to order a few of these.

      It took 3 tries to make the quantity and price function correctly.

      Then two more tries later, I had different people's names and addresses instead of my own.

      Then, I finally got to PayPal with my information, did the PayPal bit successfully, and then it told me "access denied" on returning to the merchant.

      *confused*


      i tried to read your post for relevance to the original article.

      *confused*
    2. Re:ordering problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same problem... I hope it arrives.

    3. Re:ordering problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to worry, you're merely ordering under the *old* paradigm. In the new paradigm, we give you a random address and you send it to them hoping to jumping_Jesus_H._Christ someone does likewise for you. Got it?

    4. Re:ordering problems by wbpaley2 · · Score: 1

      I am extremely sorry about these problems as will make good on any errors.

      See http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=227343 &cid=18425441

      Brad Paley, a co-creator of the map and the one responsible for Information Esthetics.

  19. Where's Creationism? by grub · · Score: 1, Interesting


    Where on that map do I find papers published by the Creationism/Intelligent Design kooks? Oh right, it's not science.

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    1. Re:Where's Creationism? by adisakp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Where on that map do I find papers published by the Creationism/Intelligent Design

      The entire map itself implies Creationism and Intelligent Design. Did anyone notice how much the graph with the flowing lines for labels looks suprisingly like the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Even as we search to explain the world with science his very form appears every from within the heart of cold scientific diagrams to a nice Italian dinner.

    2. Re:Where's Creationism? by flyingsquid · · Score: 1

      You're right- and the multicolored circles must be the meatballs!

  20. Torrent by Ankur+Dave · · Score: 2, Informative

    The server is just asking to be Slashdotted, with a 5.3MB file, so here's a torrent.

  21. In a sliiiightly shameless plug... by morner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been investigating a similar mapping technique to the one these people used, nearly identical in fact, as applied to social networks. I've modelled people as antigravitationally interacting points, with friendships represented as springs.

    You can see an early render (deviantart.org), or one using the same data but with a slightly more sophisticated physics simulation (deviantart.org).

    1. Re:In a sliiiightly shameless plug... by Ankur+Dave · · Score: 1

      Nice job. What tool did you use to make these?

    2. Re:In a sliiiightly shameless plug... by morner · · Score: 1

      The 'deciding where everything should go' was done in java -- the really heavy lifting-and-carrying was handled by the Barnes-Hut algorithm. The final .png was drawn by a quick little ruby/GD script. I suppose I ought to release the software some day, but it's still got lots of that hacked-together feel to it.

  22. Doesn't link to the Interactive Model by Ace905 · · Score: 0, Troll

    This story is a little old ; but relevant none the less.

    Slashdot's write up neglects to link to the social sciences network chart with an interactive display featuring temporary user-based input nodes and a simple web-gui connection and filtering algorithm. This network model lets you view the original chart, referenced in the article, and then get a feel for the mapping algorithm by submitting your own input on social networks.

    It also has an explanation of the hierarchal design employed by wikipedia as explained using the exact same networking algorithm.

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  23. It's terribly biased by Flavio · · Score: 1

    I was about to buy 3 of these, but when I actually looked closely at the graph I realised how biased it is toward the biomedical/health sciences. Math is a puny cluster of small dots, there's no area labeled Engineering and Chemistry looks like it has more lines than all the hard sciences put together.

    Their site actually lets you highlight the portions that they consider Engineering, and the result is pretty weird: you get computer science, math, a lot of astrophysics, fluid mechanics, materials, applied physics and some physical chemistry. Most of these don't even qualify as engineering, and there's a lot of stuff that isn't featured (topics published by the IEEE would make a good start).

    I suppose this is appropriate considering it was published in Nature, but to me it's a let down. It's a pretty poster, but it neglects the areas I enjoy the most. At least it has astrophysics.

    1. Re:It's terribly biased by morner · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's just generated directly from what's been published. It's not biased; this is just what people are working on.

    2. Re:It's terribly biased by Flavio · · Score: 1

      It's just generated directly from what's been published. It's not biased; this is just what people are working on.

      Yes, but published where? They didn't say.

      Their bad categorization of Engineering reinforces my belief that there really is a bias.

    3. Re:It's terribly biased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      One thing to note is that they generated this based on journal papers. As Computer Science is mostly a conference-driven field, there are relatively few papers published in CS journals.

      In math, it's extremely difficult to publish journal papers, and a single mathematician could not output the volume of papers that a biologist could. That could be reflected the size disparity.

      And the rest is probably due to the bias of the people that came up with the "paradigms" and how they link together (I'd wager they are much more familiar with the biological sciences than with math/CS).

    4. Re:It's terribly biased by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Their bad categorization of Engineering reinforces my belief that there really is a bias."

      Engineering is not science, so yes it is biased against engineering in the same way as it is biased against architecture, sport, art, politics, and everything else that it is not trying to map.

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    5. Re:It's terribly biased by Goldsmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I remember the original Nature article correctly, it's based primarily on what journal research is published in. Thus if a journal claims to be focused on engineering, then articles published in that journal are in the subject of engineering. Links were made by citations between journal articles. They do say what journals they look at. They're selected by Thomson Scientific, who runs Web of Science, and I know they include IEEE journals.

      I always laugh at people who try to re-define other people's professions. If the editor of a major engineering journal considers something engineering, then it is. Do you know whether IEEE publishes things which are applicable to astrophysics, or whether Physical Review Letters published topics relevant to engineers? What kind of person does nanotechnology research? Is it engineering, physics, chemistry or biology? These guys have a straightforward solution to these questions. Let the researchers define themselves by submitting their work to journals they consider important, and let the editors of those journals name their field.

    6. Re:It's terribly biased by stuartrobinson · · Score: 1

      This should be modded up. I think that anyone who thinks the boundaries between disciplines is clear-cut (in theory or practice) is naive and misguided, and maybe even stupid.

    7. Re:It's terribly biased by timeOday · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was about to buy 3 of these, but when I actually looked closely at the graph I realised how biased it is toward the biomedical/health sciences. Math is a puny cluster of small dots, there's no area labeled Engineering and Chemistry looks like it has more lines than all the hard sciences put together.
      What are your expectations based on? The chart is based on scientific publications, and IME it is representative. Federal research budget in 2004:

      Life Sciences: 54%
      Engineering: 17%
      Physical Sciences: 10%
      Environmental Sciences: 7%
      Math, Computer Science: 5%
      Social Sciences: 2%
      Psychology: 2%
      Other: 2%

      So the only mismatch here is Engineering. But it's the "Map of Science," so I'm not sure Engineering really belongs in there. Math, I'm afraid, really is a puny cluster.

      Medicine is where all the money is. It's 16% of the GDP! (I realize most of that's not research, but still...)

    8. Re:It's terribly biased by Boghog · · Score: 1

      > Chemistry looks like it has more lines than all the hard sciences put together
      Chemistry is often called the "central science" because it connects other sciences
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry
      disclaimer: I am a chemist

    9. Re:It's terribly biased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Engineering is not science"

      WTF?

      Engineering is the oldest science there is, it's obvious that writer doesn't know anything about engineering. And this is 'Insightful'?

      Ultimately simple example:

      A guy with average intelligence would realize, that the house he lives in, isn't built on trial-and-error or just experience.

      There's a theory and matemathical methods supporting theory, which let us calculate any house structural
      strenght in advance and predict if it will stand or not. (Finite element method, for a start)

      So you have theory which can be used to predict things relatively precisely. If that's not science, I don't what is.

      It's also very unforgiving science: if there's something wrong in theory, everything built on it will fail, no in-between.

  24. Kevin Bacon by Feileung · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's really weird is that I can't seem to find Kevin Bacon anywhere on that map.

    1. Re:Kevin Bacon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but I think I see the face of Jesus in the picture ...

    2. Re:Kevin Bacon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, he'd be somewhere between Mathematics and Neuroscience, via Natalie Portman (and Paul Erdos). Or maybe between Mathematics and Baseball?

    3. Re:Kevin Bacon by slyguy135 · · Score: 1

      Or Francis Bacon.

    4. Re:Kevin Bacon by Convector · · Score: 1

      Kevin Bacon was in Apollo 13, so look around the Astrophysics region.

  25. Oh, that's easy. by jpellino · · Score: 3, Funny

    When you get your print, turn it over - they put everything you need to know about creation science on the other side.

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  26. Missing stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wot no geography?

  27. 776 is a few too many for me! by danny · · Score: 1
    I've been trying to improve the subject/category classification of my book reviews, but that currently has 150 categories (including fiction genres) and expanding it to 700 isn't practical.

    So I'd love to see a similar chart with 100 categories - then one could conceivably try to read a book about each of them!

    Danny.

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  28. If you squint just right... by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you squint just right, ignore the dots and just look at the lines of text... ... it kinda looks like a face... ... it kinda looks like THE FACE OF GOD!!!! ... or maybe Hemmingway. Or Einstein. I'm not really sure.

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    1. Re:If you squint just right... by clickety6 · · Score: 1

      But compare it to:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/art/howto/fungus/images/ fungus.jpg

      Fungus the Bogeyman is God !?

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    2. Re:If you squint just right... by Myopic · · Score: 1

      yeah, FSM

  29. Map is itself an example of CS & social scienc by Geof · · Score: 4, Informative

    So an algorithm generates this map from journal articles, then lays it out as a network - and I see people on here arguing about whether the categories are biased. What more proof do you need?

    Or, take a close look at social science - there's economics in there. I see asset allocation; I'm sure game theory is there too (Prisoner's Dilemma, Tragedy of the Commons, public goods theory).

    What's really surprising here is not the strength of the connection between computer science and the social sciences; it's the scarcity of connections elsewhere. Where are the connections between ecology and social science, ecology and computer science? I see infectious diseases - where are the links to network theory? What about the social and communication basis for physics and the other hard sciences?

    Habermas has a fascinating analysis of this. He argues that science depends on a prior consensus about how the validity of evidence is evaluated. That consensus cannot itself be scientific. In other words, scientists can't agree about the value of each other's work until they first achieve a certain level of agreement on a social and communicative level.

    If that sounds suspect to you, remember that the use of the word "paradigm" debated elswhere in this discussion originates from Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scienticific Revolutions, which is about the (significantly nonrational) process by which science is conducted, and is grounded in philosophy, history, and social science.

    Perhaps the biggest missing links here are philosophy (including mathematics) and history. But then, they aren't sciences. At least not now: there have been scientific theories of history; science itself was once a branch of philosophy. Hurrah for computer science closing the circle, but the circle shouldn't be in need of closing.

  30. paradigm by camperdave · · Score: 1

    A paradigm... A paradigm makes, um, twenty cents, no?

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  31. Forget the server by camperdave · · Score: 1

    There are also links to a 3000+ pixel wide jpg of the chart.
    Soon to be links to a 3000+ degree lump of molten webserver.

    Forget the server. I need a mouse with a sideways scroll wheel, as well as the up and down one.
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    1. Re:Forget the server by Anpheus · · Score: 1

      In other words, you want to turn your old ball mouse upside down?

    2. Re:Forget the server by camperdave · · Score: 1

      In other words, you want to turn your old ball mouse upside down?

      ... and "glue" it to the top of my optical mouse. Exactly.

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  32. So, what goes in that big hole in the middle? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    Why is science shaped like a donut made out of bubbles and string?

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    1. Re:So, what goes in that big hole in the middle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's a mystery. perhaps science can find the answer.

    2. Re:So, what goes in that big hole in the middle? by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      Well, that's were darkenergenics, darkmaterology and coldfusionisics goes.

  33. Very nice by psaunders · · Score: 1

    I have the linked graphic set as my wallpaper. Though, at 1280x1024 resolution, it looks more like the last few minutes of the 203rd Annual Interdimensional Jellyfish Convention.

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  34. Re:Fist sport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your parents seem to have done the same 9 months plus twelve years ago.

  35. NOT science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some of that is NOT science. What a fraud

  36. Engineering by Mark_MF-WN · · Score: 1

    A very good point. Engineering is, in a very real sense, not a field of its own. It is a component of scientific disciplines. Chemical engineering, software engineering, structural engineering, and basically anything where you need to actually USE your science to produce something in the real world. If anything, many of the problems that are experienced in the world are directly the result of NOT applying engineering methodologies to a domain where they are needed (or not even applying scientific principles in the first place).

  37. Layout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has been noted already that there are problems with the actual content (not entirely unjustified complaints of bias and such), but has anyone noticed that the layout sucks?
    They got through all this trouble sorting through their data, and then they don't bother to clean up their squiggly lines of text - such a shame.

    1. Re:Layout by wbpaley2 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I agree there's much more work to be done; guess you didn't see my notes at http://didi.com/brad/mapOfScience. Fortunately tens of thousands actually like that messy text (seems to better telegraph the actual processes of science than straight lines, at least). And a thousand or so prints are being shipped so far.

      If you can write better layout algorithm math, perhaps we can collaborate?

      Brad

    2. Re:Layout by Paul+Crowley · · Score: 1

      May I commend you on your effective use of politeness :-) Having recently discovered that even the simplest two-dimensional case of label placement isn't as trivial as you might assume, I have to give your layout serious respect.

      This is absolutely fantastic. How much does the software that generates the map "know in advance" about science? Did you have to categorize papers by hand, or tell it keywords that correlate with fields? Or does it work it all out from phrase frequency and the citation graph?

      I was scrolling around the big map on my tiny screen, and when I got to the bit that said "signature scheme, elliptic curves, side channel..." my eyes welled up, and I pointed and said "that's MY bit!"

  38. WARNING by dargaud · · Score: 1

    Warning: their checkout is buggy. Upon confirmation, it gave me the info of someone in India... Don't order until they iron out the bugs !

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    1. Re:WARNING by wbpaley2 · · Score: 1

      That seemed to be a cacheing bug in Drupal's standard shopping cart module. We turned it off early this morning and have not seen it reappear. Should be fine now; thanks for the concern!

  39. Suspect Reasoning by DynaSoar · · Score: 1

    > It would be all one long spectrum except for Computer Science, which makes
    > the connection (via AI) between the hard sciences and the soft sciences.

    Neuroscience makes a connection between the hard science and soft sciences without even considering AI's existence. From the genetics of biochemical brain function through species specific behaviors to rational and irrational human cognition and behavior to social psychology. In fact, neuroscience differs from cognitive science specifically because it does ignore computer science, especially AI.

    Philosophy should be in there. While not a science itself, philosophy is what defines science, and therefore what's hard and soft. It's supposed to be the reason for the Ph in PhD (though far fewer science PhDs these days require any sort of knowledge of the philosophy of science, especially in the US).

    This map is far more a measure of cross-disciplinary referencing than anything else. The small size of theoretical physics is evidence of that.

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    1. Re:Suspect Reasoning by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Neuroscience makes a connection between the hard science and soft sciences
      It wishes! The gulf between neuroscience and the soft sciences is enormous. No technology to sense neuronal activations with enough spatial or temporal resolution to relate them to intelligence is even on the horizon. I doubt neuroscience will explain or create intelligence any faster than birdwatching taught us how to make airplanes, or the Kreb cycle taught us how to make engines.
  40. What? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    ... the connection (via AI) between the hard sciences and the soft sciences.

    Did someone go and invent a working artificial intelligence and not tell anyone? This link might make sense when we actually have AI.

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  41. Never mind soft and hard... by Calathea · · Score: 1

    What about Wierd Science? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/

    1. Re:Never mind soft and hard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget Weird Science - try Misfits of Science instead...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misfits_of_Science

  42. Science or moders, formal science by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 1

    Science began as an investigation for "The Truth", not any particular practical application of The Truth
    It stands to reason that science grew out of practical applications. Technology, albeit primitive and driven by trial and error, has been around almost since humans became human.

    Do you really think our neolithic ancesters studied mechanics, climatology, geology, zoology and botany for the pure pursuit of knowledge?

    It's much more plausible that they did it so they could eat.
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    1. Re:Science or moders, formal science by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      "It stands to reason that science grew out of practical applications."

      That's a reasonable theory, but it's not supported by historical fact ;) Science, and I mean modern western science, as E. O. Wilson was talking about, not just anybody's attempt to figure something out, grew out of the philosophy traditions of the Greeks. For most of the history of philosophy and science, there was little to no practical application. It was great if you could predict where Mercury would be a month from now, or when the next eclipse would occur, but that doesn't help you eat. It was great if you knew that the world was really created by God and not Gaia, but that doesn't really help you eat, either, regardless of what the worshippers of God or Gaia might tell you.

      Now, the people who were doing philosophy were the wealthy elite, who had the time and resources to sit around and argue about the origin of the world, and didn't have to farm the fields. The scientific method that we use now, which we have found so may practical applications, came directly from this navel-gazing philosophical debate, where Aristotle was telling us that the world was made out of five elements, or that vision was a result of rays shooting out of human eyes. Meanwhile the common peasant was eking out their life in the fields without any standardized method, paying their taxes so that the local lord could send his son to the seminary, where that son learned about the epicycles of the planets and disease-causing demons. But the natural philosophy never trickled down to help the average peasant improve their everyday life. It really wasn't until the 18th and 19th century that people starting applying the scientific method to various areas of life, including manufacturing, metallurgy, and farming.

      " Technology, albeit primitive and driven by trial and error, has been around almost since humans became human."

      Yes, but we and E.O. Wilson are talking about is science, not trial-and-error. The scientific method is not trial-and-error, and it did not come from trial-and-error. The scientific method has recently been applied to technology in the past two centuries, to the great progress of technology. But I'm not aware of any evidence of people using the scientific method before the 18th century. Again, science is not trial-and-error.

      "Do you really think our neolithic ancesters studied mechanics, climatology, geology, zoology and botany for the pure pursuit of knowledge?"

      I think that some of them did. Certainly the Greeks and European philosophers, who gave rise to our modern science, were engaged in a pure pursuit of knowledge, without practical application. I also think that some of our Neolithic ancestors studied these so that they could be better hunters and gatherers. But they weren't using the scientific method.

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    2. Re:Science or moders, formal science by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

      well said...

  43. Application of Graph Theory by ct1972 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rather ironic, the whole thing is an application of a branch of mathematics : graph theory, and yet seems to suggest that mathematics makes very little contribution to the whole thing. It really isn't believable that maths could have so few connections, this just proves that people don't see it when it is everywhere.

  44. Re:Map is itself an example of CS & social sci by cluckshot · · Score: 1

    Not commenting on any particular Idea... But, the curious point of this graph is who relies on which type of thinking and why. Take a look at the almost absent connection between the life sciences (biology medicine etc) and the Physics and Chemistry side. There seems to be only a few people talking or connecting here. Note that the earth sciences like geology are a common link between the life sciences and the physics/ chemistry side.

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  45. Re:Map is itself an example of CS & social sci by ioshhdflwuegfh · · Score: 1

    What's really surprising here is not the strength of the connection between computer science and the social sciences; it's the scarcity of connections elsewhere. Where are the connections between ecology and social science, ecology and computer science? I see infectious diseases - where are the links to network theory? What about the social and communication basis for physics and the other hard sciences? well dude, I think in your case the time has come to fix these things a bit: you can probably do it in an image editor...
  46. Re:Map is itself an example of CS & social sci by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I received my degree in philosophy and one of things that I did in my younger years was to map out the various fields of study to guess at how they inter-related. This is what I came up with:

    -- Physics -- Chemistry -- Biology -- Neurology -- Psychology -- Sociology/Political Science -- Economics -- Engineering -- (loops back to Physics).

    I drew it in the form of a wheel. Now, granted, this isn't anything to base a thesis on and was just meant to be a silly piece of musing, but if you push it, it does make you consider where other fields would fit in and that just goes to show how few things work really alone within their fields. Art can be imagined along a line between Engineering and perhaps Psychology. History would link between Engineering and Sociology. Sport would link between Biology and Sociology. Philosophy, as I imagined it when I pulled this out of thin air, would be at the center of this wheel having to account for all disciplines and be disciplined by them at the same time, the hub around which this wheel turned.

    It's interesting to compare this picture to what I imagined as an undergrad.

  47. Re:Map is itself an example of CS & social sci by The+Fun+Guy · · Score: 1

    For that matter, it would appear that organic chemists only talk to other organic chemists.

    Big surprise, eh?

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    The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. - Mark Twain
  48. Serious answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you read the article you'll see that the picture was made by simulating a bunch of dots that repel each other connected by rubber bands where there's a link. When you have a load of things that repel each other you will tend to get a roughly spherical (circular in this case because the simulation was only done in two dimensions) pattern - this is the shape where every part is as far away as it can be from every other part. The rubber bands kept it from shooting off forever, and clump the individual subjects together, but aren't strong enough to collapse it all into a point - which is what you get when you have only attractive forces.

  49. Where's the Math? by ngc2244 · · Score: 1

    OK, it was done by aggregating journal citations.... Just goes to show you how Math gets short shrift. Mathematicians should ask for proper attribution when their ideas are used in other fields (of course the reverse applies as well ;-).

    Love to see a similar one which is based upon conceptual relationships in the various fields. Then again, it would be just one big lump for Math, with smaller satellites for everything else. OK maybe three lumps... The second one would be the Simple Harmonic Oscillator, the third - Statistical Mechanics. ;-)

  50. "except for Computer Science" -- awfully haughty by tOaOMiB · · Score: 1

    "It would be all one long spectrum except for Computer Science, which makes the connection (via AI) between the hard sciences and the soft sciences."

    Hmmm...in order for it not to be one long spectrum (and the circle it is instead), doesn't it need to have two connections between the hard sciences and the soft sciences? The first link just stops it from being 2 disjoint groups...

  51. Definitions, please. by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 1


    Read E. O. Wilson's Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge [amazon.com] on why we should apply the scientific method to all field, even humanities, and why we should try to speak about all fields with a common language.

    What's the definition of "the scientific method"?

    More generally, what's the definition of "science"?

  52. Re:Map is itself an example of CS & social sci by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps the biggest missing links here are philosophy (including mathematics) and history. But then, they aren't sciences.

    Mathematics is now and always has been considered a branch of science. I'm pretty surprised that mathematics was not included in the graph. Probably someone has confused experimentation with science.

  53. nice to see directionality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be interesting to see the directionality of the links. For example, I would imagine that a fairly large number of fluid mechanics papers reference math papers, while relatively few math papers reference any from fluid mechanics.

  54. Mathematics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It would be all one long spectrum except for Computer Science, which makes the connection (via AI) between the hard sciences and the soft sciences."

    Lets not forget Mathematics. All science, hard or soft, uses math somewhere.

  55. Chemistry is an engineering poly-science by Morgaine · · Score: 1

    > Chemistry looks like it has more lines than all the hard sciences put together
    Chemistry is often called the "central science" because it connects other sciences
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemistry

    More precisely, Chemistry involves and is involved in numerous other sciences. This is pretty inevitable, when you consider that almost all other sciences relate to atoms and molecules in some way, and of course atoms and molecules clearly involve most of physics.

    The reason why Chemistry doesn't live in a disjoint corner of its own is because it's not *really* a science in the pure sense --- it ought to be called Bulk Molecular Engineering Science, and once it has finally accepted molecular nanotechnology as part of its domain, then just plain Molecular Engineering Science will be the correct term.

    It's not really an independent science, but a melting pot where numerous other sciences overlap. If you exclude from Chemistry the contribution from other physical sciences, what you have left possesses far more engineering attributes than pure science ones. Chemistry is very empirical by nature, and all its modelling from first principles relies almost entirely on physics and related sciences.

    That said, Chemistry does require its own professional niche and its own educational spectrum, because the area is just so *VAST*. Calling it the "central science" is entirely accurate in respect of its importance, and because of the sheer magnitude of its domain.
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    "The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
  56. Rather useful... by PeterPiper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am thinking that this chart could be extremely useful for someone planning the layout for a university campus.

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    Peter
  57. Paradigm isn't Kuhn's word by obtuse · · Score: 1

    They use the word "paradigm" perfectly well. If you use the actual definition of the word, which is essentially synonymous with exemplar, it works fine.

    Kuhn's definition isn't the primary definition, and Wikipedia is far from authoritative. There are authoritative sources, including a selection of dictionaries at onelook.com. This isn't a Kuhninan discussion. They don't mention him, and they aren't talking about change over time. Let's just assume they mean to use the primary definition of the word, say as described in the OED.

    It's fun to redfine words to match your ideology, but be careful not to turn into the provincial fool who proves that reading one book doesn't make you literate. You need some perspective; a little respect for the complexity of language, please. Kuhn didn't suddenly erase over five hundred years of usage.

    Of course, everyone else who prefers Kuhn's definition will claim his right to redfine the word, but the fact is that the old definition is still perfectly respectable, so you guys are welcome to have your ideological circle jerk. Just don't get any on me.

    --
    Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
  58. Science is French! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    looking at the chart, it confirms what I always suspected - that science is in the shape of the country of France, with a vast, unoccupied hinterland. Computer science is on the border with the UK, physics to the north, while the murky waters of the Med lap onto virology and infectious disease.

  59. Writing advice from Eric Blair by wilec · · Score: 1

    I have been very impressed with how well E.O.Wilson is able to communicate some rather complex ideas. His style follows well the rules suggested by good old Eric Blair:

    (i) Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.

    (ii) Never us a long word where a short one will do.

    (iii) If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.

    (iv) Never use the passive where you can use the active.

    (v) Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.

    (vi) Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.

    Another scientist to master of this very effective style was mythologist Joseph Campbell. The best conveyors or knowledge have always managed to say the most with the least effort by keeping it as clean, simple and culturally neutral as possible. I find that most my favorite writers tend to have this in common, Eric Blair himself (AKA George Orwell), Papa Hemingway, Arthur C Clarke, Kurt Vongut, Michio Kaku among others. A lot of journalists, authors, politicians and even /. posters could benefit from applying those 6 simple rules, myself included, sometimes ;)

    Wabi-Sabi
    Matthew

    Source:
    http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm - George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language," 1946