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Shaking a 275-ton Building

Roland Piquepaille writes "If you want to predict how a tall building can resist to an earthquake, some researchers have better tools than others. Engineers from the San Diego Supercomputer Center (SDSC) have built a full-size 275-ton building and really shaken it to obtain earthshaking images. The building was equipped with some 600 sensors and filmed as the shake table simulated the 1994 Northridge earthquake in Los Angeles, California. It gave so much data to the engineers to analyze that they needed a supercomputer to help them. Now they hope their study will yield to better structure performance for future buildings in case of earthquakes."

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  1. Somebody saw this coming by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Informative

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    1. Re:Somebody saw this coming by zentagonist · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-04/uoc --ei041107.php should be the article ... no images though.

    2. Re:Somebody saw this coming by corvair2k1 · · Score: 2, Informative
  2. Wow by hack++slash · · Score: 5, Funny

    The simulated quake must've been so big it shook the images off the linked page!

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  3. Any structural engineers around? by QuantumG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are we at the point in history where we can design a building completely inside a computer and simulate the effect earthquakes of various degrees will have on the building?

    Who makes that software?

    How much does it cost?

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    1. Re:Any structural engineers around? by Arclight17 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I imagine that the software is custom written.
      But it wouldn't surprise me if there were a market for such a thing... Include some other foreseeable disasters (fire, flood, airplane, Michael Jackson...), and sell it to major construction companies in skyscraper or other 'secure' building markets.

      And just for kicks, maybe add an easter egg like sim city, so that you can destroy your buildings with aliens, dragons, etc. :-D

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    2. Re:Any structural engineers around? by Tomfrh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are we at the point in history where we can design a building completely inside a computer and simulate the effect earthquakes of various degrees will have on the building?

      Pretty much.

      Who makes that software?

      People like this: http://www.csiberkeley.com/ http://www.risatech.com/.

      How much does it cost?

      About $5000.

  4. Link that works...for now. by djupedal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Read more...

    "Wednesday, Apr 11 @ 13:13 PDT The powerful earthquake struck suddenly, shaking the seven-story building so hard it bent, cracked and swayed in response. But this was no ordinary earthquake. In a groundbreaking series of tests, engineering researchers from UC San Diego's Jacobs School of Engineering jarred a full-size 275-ton building erected on a shake table, duplicating ground motions recorded during the January 17, 1994 Northridge earthquake in Los Angeles, California. To record the impact on the building, the structure was fitted with some 600 sensors and filmed as the shake table simulated the earthquake, yielding a flood of data including stress, strain, and acceleration -- so much information that engineers were having a hard time making sense of it all. That's where visualization experts from the San Diego Supercomputer Center (SDSC) at UC San Diego came in. "

  5. Here's the Correct Link by AaxelB · · Score: 4, Informative

    Link!

    Two little dashes in the url became one superdash!

  6. What they really did... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They threw a truly awesome kegger and cranked the amps to 11!

  7. Think harder by GFree · · Score: 5, Funny

    It gave so much data to the engineers to analyze that they needed a supercomputer to help them


    Why are they using a supercomputer?

    Screw that, let's wait for Earthquakes@home - and hope the name doesn't scare off some people.
  8. Shakey by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The building where I used to work and write bad software every work day used to be owned by a military contractor and was built to withstand a nuclear blast. It is no longer owned by the military contractor, but is still used by non-mil gov't agencies who want communications to remain up after emergencies (floods, fires, quakes, riots, nukes, etc.) They put their servers and communications centers there. I was told that they used to do periodic "shake tests" on it by hooking up huge cranes to each edge and vigorously shaking it for a while. It seems that would be risky because it would weaken it. Even though shaking it in tests might not topple it, it may introduce undetected fractures that may result in problems on the next earthquake or whatnot. Perhaps its infrastructure is purposely built for easy inspection, being what it was originally designed for.

    1. Re:Shakey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What you describe is a good application for eccentric mass vibrators, if you can affix one to the structure. I do appreciate the scale of the shake table these folks built, but sometimes you can't move the structure to your shake table to test it.

      Eccentric mass vibrators are just like the cell phone vibrator (or other things you know of that vibrate) but much larger. And you strap these to the roofs of large buildings, wherever they are.

      This is a crude Wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrator_(mechanical)

      Here's a good example of one at UCLA: http://nees.ucla.edu/eccentric_mass.htm.

      Another interesting way to do structural testing is called snapback testing. A lot like when you played tug-of-war with your friend, but you let go of the rope. So you attach cabling to a structure and force it to be bent by pulling really hard on it. The coupling mechanism allows for rapid de-coupling of the force being applied (i.e., it lets go). The structure snaps back to its original position, and in so doing you can analyze its dynamic behavior under roughly controlled conditions.

  9. HD videos of the shake by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 4, Informative

    A coworker of mine is in the department, and showed me this page: http://visservices.sdsc.edu/projects/nees/article. php

    It has a video of the shake as well as high def video of the simulations themselves. It's pretty damn cool, you can watch the whole building flex and sway about on top of the the shake table, and the waves propagate through the building. (Each colored dot is a GPS sensor, 10 per floor, over 7 floors).

  10. Picture LInk by Pinky3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Link to UCSD news release with pictures.

  11. Too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's too bad noone can find a way to protect steel frame buildings from collapsing due to fire...

    Oh. Wait.

    1. Re:Too bad by AJWM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure why that got modded funny.

      Think about why the World Trade Center towers collapsed. (Hint: something to do with the effect of sustained high temperature kerosene fire on the strength of structural steel.)

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    2. Re:Too bad by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...because there was no fire.

      Correction

      FTL: The plane's high-octane fuel exploded, hurtling flames down the side of the building and inside through hallways and stairwells all the way down to the 75th floor.

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  12. The only problem is by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Technically, yes. The only problem is, any simulation is only as good as the model it uses. E.g., you can also simulate scattering of alpha particles through a foil, but if you based it on the old raising pie atom model, you'd get the awfully wrong results anyway.

    Hence what these guys are doing: a good old fashioned experiment, involving an actual building on a giant table that shakes, reproducing the exact movements recorded in an actual earthquake. That's how you find out if your model and simulation are actually the right ones. If the building behaves like in the assumed models, then all's well, if not, well, someone will have to come up with a better model.

    It might seem that wth, we already know the laws of mechanics well enough, we don't need experiments to test them. The problem is that any model is based on some simplifications, since you just don't have the computing power to even account for all waves, reflections and interferences in a big building with hundreds of joints and thousands of metal bars, pipes, whatever other discontinuities through the walls. So physicists get to decide what are the important parts to simulate, and which should at best be lost in the decimals.

    E.g., if you want to know if a horse floats, you can just as well imagine it to be a sphere or a cube. (As the wisecrack goes, "you know you're an engineering student if you approximate a horse as a sphere, because it makes the math easier.") Actually, wisecrack aside, for that you won't even imagine it to have any shape at all, since shape is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter what exact shape it is, just the mass and the volume. E.g., if you want to know how fast a rocket reaches the moon, you don't need to know the exact shape or colour of the rocket, you can just think it's a point. Etc.

    That's how we solve problems nowadays. We get to decide what is really important, and what can be safely ignored in the model.

    Unfortunately, if you to be really sure that you did the right choices, you have to compare it to what happens in real life. Does your simulation really behave like the real thing in that situation? Or did your approximating the horse as a sphere lead you to a wrong solution like rolling it along the race track to win?

    That's, in a nutshell, what these guys did.

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    1. Re:The only problem is by AJWM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      E.g., if you want to know how fast a rocket reaches the moon, you don't need to know the exact shape or colour of the rocket

      True enough for moon rockets, but for some simulations -- like projecting whether a given asteroid (1950 DA for example), the colour does matter if you're project the orbit to see if it hits Earth in 800 or so years. Over such long time intervals the difference in sunlight pressure (and a couple of related effects) on a light vs dark surface will affect the trajectory.

      The same effects have an affect on the rocket too, of course, but as you point out, on that scale they're not important.

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    2. Re:The only problem is by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Very much so. Each problem has a different set of details that matter and details which can be safely ignored. And a different need for accuracy.

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    3. Re:The only problem is by cluckshot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Since my father was one of the team that sent men to the moon. I know a bit more about simulation and testing than the average bird. On Redstone Arsenal (near Huntsville, Alabama) stands a building where they did full mock up shake testing of the Saturn V rocket. I appreciate the intent of people who wish to do full computer simulations. These are getting very good and they delete with the need for many simple tests. Nothing substitutes for the real thing and doing real tests. This was a 37 story rocket they were launching.

      The remark about decimal points is valid. Everyone forgets that the only math that truly exists is integer math. We enjoy using approximations using floating point math but that is all that these are. They are approximations. The list of errors that arises out of these approximations is long. This math only operates well within about 3 decimal places and then it begins to develop progressive errors.

      In Apollo mission computer programming there was a decision made not to attempt over 5 decimal places in navigation and simply to do correction measurement over time. It worked like a charm. It was possible to calculate much more finely but in reality the measurements were not more valuable. Nothing was to be gained by the determination of 11 decimal places that the mission required for accuracy.

      Shaking a 275 ton building will hold as a good approximation for that size range but will not do too well in estimation of a 275,000,000 ton building. It will require actual measuring of such a building. There are many such approximations that come up that people do not consider. For example the velocity of the top of a building is different than the bottom. In really big buildings level and plumb have to bend for the earth. In really big buildings what is the pull of the tide? All sorts of things like that begin to have significant value

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  13. List of Movies and Other Multimedia by stikves · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is a list of all the media (including several movies) on their press release site:
    http://visservices.sdsc.edu/projects/nees/article. php

    This includes both real and simulated building captures (and several overlayed ones).

  14. Structural engineers built it, not comp. engineers by fname · · Score: 2, Funny

    As reported in every other story, But this was no ordinary earthquake. In a groundbreaking series of tests, engineering researchers from UC San Diego's Jacobs School of Engineering jarred a full-size 275-ton building erected on a shake table, duplicating ground motions recorded during the January 17, 1994 Northridge earthquake in Los Angeles, California. The guys at the supercomputer center played a role, but they didn't build the building or run the test. It was obviously folks from the Structural Engineering department.

    I'll chalk that mistake to sloth, not pride. No doubt, some are envious of the attention the lead guys get, but the greedy bastards deserve it. In their wrath, they shake the building, lusting for its fall and gluttonous for the massive data.

  15. Shaking Building Not New by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Miliken Library at caltech which was an ten story building built before 1980 had a huge eccentric weighted rotor on it's roof which every year the engineering school would Activate and drive the building into resonance. All the book shelves inside were cross braced to withstand the effect. It's still there.

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  16. Spherical horses by gr8dude · · Score: 2, Funny
    Here's the long version:

    There was a very wealthy gentleman who wanted a scientific method to be able to predict the outcome of any horse race. He asked a geneticist, a statistician and a physicist to look at the problem and promised each a million dollars if they could find a solution.

    After a year of study the gentleman asks the scientists what they have come up with.

    The geneticist says, "Well, we have looked at parentage, gentic composition, hormone levels, musculature and sexual activity of all the horses raced last year, and we could find no pattern amongst the winners.." The statistician says, "We looked at the history of each and every race. We compared times, owners, ages, parentage, and many other variables. We could find no pattern."

    The physicist says, "We calculated the solution from first principles, and here it is!" He hands a huge sheaf of papers to the wealthy gentleman. The gentleman responds by returning a million dollars in cash to the physicist.

    "Well done!" he cries, "But how did you do it?"

    "Well remember," says the physicist, "it only works for a spherical horse moving in a vacuum...."