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HBO Exec Proposes DRM Name Change

surfingmarmot writes "An HBO executive has figured out the problem with DRM acceptance — it's the name. HBO's chief technology officer Bob Zitter now wants to refer to the technology as Digital Consumer Enablement. Because, you see, DRM actually helps consumers by getting more content into their hands. The company already has HD movies on demand ready to go, but is delaying them because of ownership concerns. Says Zitter, 'Digital Consumer Enablement would more accurately describe technology that allows consumers "to use content in ways they haven't before," such as enjoying TV shows and movies on portable video players like iPods. "I don't want to use the term DRM any longer," said Zitter, who added that content-protection technology could enable various new applications for cable operators.'"

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  1. Freakanomics by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "[I asked my tech people, and they said that] theoretically those analog outputs could be disabled, forcing consumers to use a secure digital connection to watch HD content. [Then they tried to convince me that such measures were mostly token measures, but I ignored them.] A lack of copy protection is holding HBO back from making its own content available in high-definition through its popular HBO On Demand platform, [because I didn't take the time to listen to my technologists. I decided that the real problem was the name, not that the technology was backed by poor use of legal constructs.]"

    I'm still waiting to see how long it takes these people to realize that they're actually driving piracy with every day they wait. They should consider the data gathered in the "freakanomics" research. The data clearly shows that most people are honest, and those that aren't simply aren't. If you offer up content at a fair price, the majority of users will purchase that content rather than resorting to illegal or immoral means to obtain it. Meanwhile, the DRM restrictions will do little to stop those looking for a free ride. They're not going to pay for it in the first place, so why worry about it now? If they can't get past your DRM scheme (not likely), they'll rip it from the DVDs or HD-DVDs.

    The software industry had to learn the same thing many years ago. Copy protection annoyed the paying users while doing little to stop the pirates. Why can't anyone get that lesson through their head?
    1. Re:Freakanomics by tringstad · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The software industry had to learn the same thing many years ago.

      As far as I can tell, the software industry to this day has never learned this.

      -Tommy

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    2. Re:Freakanomics by aichpvee · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not going to call it piracy anymore. I prefer Consumer Choice Enablement. CCE allows consumers (not customers, since you won't be paying for the service) to enjoy content not only in ways they haven't before, such as on portable video players like the iAudio A2, but at a more reasonable price than they have been offered in the past. This is also a win-win situation for the content creators as it alleviates all packaging and most distribution costs, as well as providing excellent word-of-mouth advertising for FREE!

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    3. Re:Freakanomics by Propagandhi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why can't anyone get that lesson through their head?

      This baffles me more than it should, I guess. The idea that there should be some invisible barrier between me and the 1's and 0's in my computer's memory (solid state or otherwise) is insane. This shit honestly needs to be explained, slowly and forcefully, to the higher ups that keep greenlighting this shit.
    4. Re:Freakanomics by TheMeuge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The answer to your question is simple - it's greed. Unadulterated, foaming-at-the-mouth greed.

      The media executives have for so long held onto their positions of power, privilege and wealth, that they have lost any notions of reality. As far as they are concerned, they are gods, and the consumers are the worshipers.

      When they get a whiff of even a minute challenge to this doctrine, they are engulfed in rage, because it is something they cannot control, regardless of how much money they throw at the issue. After all, as far as they're concerned, the consumers are the commodity - they own your eyes, and sell them as they please (not quite that simple in the case of HBO, but you get the idea). So they get angrier and angrier, until this rage spills over as utter stupidity.

      P.S. They might as well call executions a "happy express to heaven".

    5. Re:Freakanomics by SadGeekHermit · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I recently got a bill from Time Warner Cable for 160.00. 140 of it was for cable, internet, and etc. 22 was for Girls Gone Wild and something even dirtier. Of course, I have no problem with THAT, heh heh...

      But jeez, 140 bucks for TV???

      I called them and cancelled everything except my broadband internet connection. My monthly bill went from 144 bucks to 44 bucks. I saved a hundred bucks a month by dropping cable television!

      The girl on the line sounded positively HURT by this. She asked me "But why do you want to cancel TV?" I told her it just wasn't interesting and she said "oh" in a quiet voice.

      I felt at that moment as if I'd just dumped a sweet, loving girlfriend and broken her heart. It was a bizarre thing.

      It didn't stop me from saving a hundred bucks, though! Woo HOO! That's two cases of beer a week!

      YouTube and AtomFilms are better anyway...

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    6. Re:Freakanomics by zuvembi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This shit honestly needs to be explained, slowly and forcefully, to the higher ups that keep greenlighting this shit.

      Preferably with brickbats and pointy implements.

    7. Re:Freakanomics by bobcat7677 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Parent should have been modded insightful...not funny. Fight fire with fire.

    8. Re:Freakanomics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The answer to your question is simple - it's greed. Unadulterated, foaming-at-the-mouth greed.
      Good to see that media execs and geeks have something in common. The greed works both ways, media companies want money, geeks want movies/music/etc. Both sides are willing to do whatever it takes to get what they want, and there is a vicious circle each trying to outdo the other technologically or through the legal system.
      If you want to break the circle, just don't consume. It's not like what the media companies are putting out is a necessity for life.
    9. Re:Freakanomics by Cadallin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How about Personal Choice Enablement? I am not a customer. I am not a "consumer." I am not a "citizen." I am a person. It is personhood that comes first. All else is predicate upon personhood, and its about damn time somebody reminded these dehumanizing fuckers about that.

      Otherwise I agree completely and in a serious fashion with your premise.

    10. Re:Freakanomics by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As far as I can tell, the software industry to this day has never learned this. There was a time in the 1980s where every time you bought a game one of two things would happen: either they tried to play games with the floppy disk by adding a certain number of bad sectors, etc. or else at the beginning of the game you had to "enter the first word of the second paragraph of page 46 of the manual".

      I haven't seen people do this for years. Now you usually have to hae some kind of license key or nothing at all. No one ships defective media on purpose and the way that licensing is implemented isn't just amateur hour anymore.
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    11. Re:Freakanomics by Falladir · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...to manage digital rights.

      I could be wrong, but I think the management is supposed to be digital, not the rights. :)

    12. Re:Freakanomics by Aladrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "No one ships defective media on purpose"

      Yes they do. Check a little further into CD protection schemes. That's exactly what they do.

      Instead of the words in the manual, they now have the software check online to see if it's valid.

      Software DRM has changed considerably over the last 20 years, but it still exists.

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    13. Re:Freakanomics by HAKdragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, a number of PC games do rely on "bad data" on the discs to avoid being copied casually. Software, such as Alcohol 120% and Daemon's (sp?) Tools have methods of getting around these various protections.

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      "Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bombs. We have a protractor."
    14. Re:Freakanomics by zero_offset · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Those people who take your service cancellation requests make commissions from convincing you to keep your service. I'm thinking there's a pretty good chance she saw "SadGeekHermit habitually orders PPV softcore pseudo-porn" and concluded the sad-dumped-girlfriend voice might open you up for a discussion where she could set the hooks.

      On a side note: what are you drinking? I would hope $100 would get you four cases. My "default" beer is Sam Adams and it runs about $25 for a case, when you can find it by the case, and most people consider it expensive. (In reality MY cost is much less since I now buy kegs, but in terms of cost by the case...)

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    15. Re:Freakanomics by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      " No one ships defective media on purpose and the way that licensing is implemented isn't just amateur hour anymore."

      yeah..that';s why it takes moments after release for there to be a crack.
      I have downloaded a no CD crack for every game. Yeah I bought the game, I just want to play it without hearing the cd whine up and down and cause a stutter in the game.

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    16. Re:Freakanomics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "I haven't seen people do this for years. Now you usually have to hae some kind of license key or nothing at all. No one ships defective media on purpose and the way that licensing is implemented isn't just amateur hour anymore."

      As other people have pointed out already, they most certainly do.

      And I know this because I've often downloaded the "no-cd" patches for my legitimately-purchased and DRM-encumbered games in order to:
      A) not have to dig out the CD every time I want to play,
      B) not have to wait for the CD to spin up,
      C) not have to worry about the DRM system becoming incompatible and breaking the game (e.g., for older games, the DRM is often incompatible with new OS versions before the game is, so stripping the DRM increases compatibility),
      D) not have to worry about the CD getting scratched or otherwise damaged,
      E) sometimes it improves the performance to remove certain (poorly-implemented) DRM schemes, and
      F) because I paid for the game and I'll play it any way I please, thank you very much.

      As long as I'm not using multiple licenses simultaneously or copying it, I don't feel ethically challenged by doing this (and, no, DMCA anti-circumvention laws don't exist in the country in which I live).

      DRM is alive and well in software. And just as annoying to the user and easily circumvented as ever.

      It's quite legitimate to wonder why so many software manufacturers still bother with it, especially when it costs money to buy or develop these DRM schemes, but many do.

      I'm not counting the manufacturers who only have a license key stamped in the case or manual, and which require you to type it in at installation. That's fair and unobtrusive, and I respect those companies for not hindering the user experience unnecessarily.

    17. Re:Freakanomics by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, in my (admittedly very limited) cracking experience, it's not that hard.

      1) Decompile the code into assembly.
      2) Search for usage of a string that you expect to be near the validity check you're hoping to remove.
      3) Find any conditional jumps in the current block of code (following branches as you come to them).
      4) Invert them.
      5) Try the program out and see if you get past. If you do, you're done. If not, continue on.
      6) Find all callers of the piece of code you're looking at.
      7) For each of them, go back to step #3 and repeat the process.

      You can also do variants like adding your own jumps in or replacing existing jumps with nops.

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    18. Re:Freakanomics by d34thm0nk3y · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about Personal Choice Enablement?

      I have a better one yet. How about we call non-commercial copyright infringement "Fair Use."

      Has a nice ring to it, no?

    19. Re:Freakanomics by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      DRM is alive and well in software.

      No it's not! Remember, it's "Digital Consumer Enablement" now!

      I, for one, welcome this change. Nothing makes the public dislike something faster than giving it an Orwellian, "War-Is-Peace" type name. I mean, picture these name changes:

      SUV: "Environment Enhancing Vehicle"
      Semi-Automatic Rifle: "Bloodshed Prevention Device"
      Watching paint dry: "Paint's Amazing Adventure!"
      Shooting fish in a barrel: "Experts-only Marksmanship Challenge"
      Zombie invasion: "Undead Welcoming Party"
      Invading Iraq to pursue your hairbrained geopolitical theories at the expense of the local population: "Freedom"

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    20. Re:Freakanomics by imidan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, what is the deal with that? Why do I have to have the CD in to play? Given the right software, which anyone can get, the CD is trivially easy to copy to my hard drive. Or I can download a no-CD crack off the Internet. Why do they make this little hoop for me to jump through? Look, I bought the game. I have the sales receipt and everything!

      My theory is that the people who make DRM technologies are kind of like telephone sanitizers. We've just been paying them for so long that if we suddenly give up on this utterly wasteful technology, then we'll be stuck with a lot of out-of-work DRM people, and they'll be meddling in the kitchen cupboards, rearranging them so we can never find anything anymore.

    21. Re:Freakanomics by InvalidError · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Digital Rights Management was deemed a misnomer by educated people, is getting increasing heat from the general public and is now getting called "Digital Restrictions Management"

      To "dispose" of the heat, the MAFIAA decides to rename it Digital Consumer Enablement... I'll write it off as "Digital Consumer Extortion" in my book as I expect every control-freak measures to be implemented in the name of DCA to be at least as potentially restrictive and encumbering as anything else that got introduced in the name of DRM.

      I hate those moronic execs who try to convince the general public that the likes of DRM allows people to do stuff people could not already do... the only thing DRM enables is taking the willing consumers' wallets to the cleaners without said consumers being able to do anything about it when they hit a DRM brick wall they did not see coming.

    22. Re:Freakanomics by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It ain't that easy anymore.

      Many programs today start running CRCs of themselves to disable exactly this practice (i.e. making a conditional jump unconditional or inverting it, which used to create the funny side effect of the game only running without the CD inserted, but not when it was present :)), they just set a variable and test it a long time later to thwart simple approaches like your step 2, or they use code altering techniques, execute code out of data segments or even the stack (and now try to convince Vista that this is a good idea...).

      Cracking games was a fun pastime in the 80s and 90s, with people competing who can do it first. Someone who cannot be me (of course not, I'd never ever do anything illegal) holds a personal record of just under 10 minutes, including the disassembly process (which took quite a while in the old days). But that changed big time with the advent of "professional" (read: done for profit, not done with a lot of knowledge) copy protection mechanisms.

      If the computer content industry really wants to find out who cracks their games, all they gotta do is take a close look at the times when people take days off. Whenever a new version of a copy protection program comes out, I bet a lot of very good people take a day or two off. :)

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  2. how about... by smitty97 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Consumer Rights Access Program

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    1. Re:how about... by TCQuad · · Score: 4, Funny

      No Content Left Behind?

  3. Marketing over content by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Informative

    A turd by any other name is still a turd.

  4. Why not call it... by swimboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    doubleplusgood warmfuzzy protection for all your digital lifestyles!

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  5. Okay, It's just a term by Stanistani · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Next task:

    Redefine 'rape' as 'enthusiastic love-making.'

    1. Re:Okay, It's just a term by Kelbear · · Score: 5, Funny

      Suprise sex.

    2. Re:Okay, It's just a term by Stanistani · · Score: 4, Funny

      happy surprise sex

  6. DRM = Digitally Restricted Media by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    DRM = Digitally Restricted Media
    DCE = Digitally Constrained Entertainment

    A turd by any other name would still smell as foul... er, or something like that.

    -S

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  7. Translating service. by Applekid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Digital Consumer Enablement would more efficiently confuse consumers "to prevent the use of content in ways they haven't before," such as enjoying TV shows time shifted to when they want and movies on portable video players like iPods where they can see them more than once. "I don't want to use the term DRM any longer," said Zitter, "even my Grandma knows by now that DRM is bad, so obviously we have to change the name of it."'

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  8. I must send a gift to Bob Zitter by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    A bouquet of "fully organic fecal aroma enhancers". Don't worry - they're just like roses.

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    rediculous.
  9. Enablement? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps he could give me a single concrete example of something that I can do with 'enabled' media that I could not do with the same media with the DRM/DCE removed.

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  10. Makes as much sense... by bearinboots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... as Windows Genuine Advantage.

    Put a positive spin on the name and you can fool anyone!

  11. Renaming fun by dissy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can't agree more!

    I no longer want anyone to call it 'copyright violation', but instead lets call it 'early retirement to the public domain'

  12. Yeah, right. by rob1980 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just because "baking brownies" is a euphemism for "taking a shit" doesn't mean it's going to smell any better.

  13. When are they going to actually SELL something? by cHALiTO · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm tired of this SHIT.

    Wake me up when they're ready to actually SELL me a record or a movie. I don't want no 'license' to listen/watch something or any shit of the sort. I want to OWN a COPY. Copyright says I can't redistribute copies. Fine. But I want MINE to be MY OWN, and do with it whatever the fuck I want.

    They can't have their cake and eat it too... and if they can.. well, they shouldn't.

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  14. Sadly, correct by happyfrogcow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's sadly correct that successfull deployment of DRM is only a good marketting campaign away.

  15. Let's play the name game by suv4x4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those people will never get it. The name doesn't matter. What's so sinister about "Digital Rights Management"? It sounds pretty nice to me. The bad connotations aren't coming from the name, it's the essence of what DRM is.

    People keep thinking that the order and choice of letters is all it takes to turn something bad into something great.

    This has been happening also in the way people have called people with mental handicaps throughout the years, and the constant "reinvention" of the terms, to keep the names less insulting:

    -----

    Socially responsible guy: We shouldn't call them "idiots" anymore. That's insulting. We'll call it people with mental retardation: retards.
    General public: Yea, that is a nice neutral name, no bad connotations.

    One year later:

    General public: My brother is a damn retard, I hate him.
    Socially responsible guy: That's insulting. We shouldn't call them retards anymore. We'll call them people with "slow mental development". Slow people.
    General public: Yea, that's neutral and nice. Cool.

    One year later:

    General public: My neighbour is "slow" or something. Huhuhu.
    Socially responsible guy: We shouldn't call them "slow", that's insulting. Well call them "people with special education needs". Special people.

    One year later:

    General public: My new coworker is "special". Huhuu, get it? "Special". Hehehe.

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    Basically you can change a name any times you want. Bad fame will come to haunt you never mind how hard you try.

  16. Call it what it is... by FellowConspirator · · Score: 5, Funny

    The technology is a Fair Use Circumvention Kit, consisting of equal parts technology, marketing, and industry-written legislation.

    The term Fair Use Circumvention Kit is not only much more descriptive of the true nature of the beast, the acronym is also easy to remember, catchy, and equally descriptive.

  17. Obligatory Futurama by richdun · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slurm Queen: As for you, you will be submerged in Royal Slurm which, in a matter of minutes, will transform you into a Slurm Queen like myself.

    Small Glurmo #1: But, Your Highness, she's a commoner. Her Slurm will taste foul.

    Slurm Queen: Yes! Which is why we'll market it as New Slurm. Then, when everyone hates it, we'll bring back Slurm Classic, and make billions!

    (thanks to The Neutral Planet)

  18. Excellent Idea! by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny
    I propose "Herpes".

    Yeah I would rip that song from the CD to my ipod but the herpes kept me from doing it.

    Yeah I would post that clip from Colbert on Youtube but... you know... the herpes...

    That'd be awesome!

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  19. It's not buggery by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's an internal colon massage! Now bend over...

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  20. Great quote by gr8_phk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    HBO's big concern is the analog hole--in essence the gap in DRM that lets consumers capture the unencrypted analog signal from an HD signal. He, apparently, would like to plug the hole, but can't due to meddlesome laws.

    That would be the meddlesome laws of physics right?
  21. That's the fundamental conflict by mbessey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason we have DRM is that the media companies don't think that their interests are aligned with those of the consumer. The hell of it is that most of the time, there's no conflict. If HBO makes DRM-free video available on-demand, most of their existing customers would use it just about how you'd expect. They'd occasionally pay whatever nominal fee, and watch that episode of the Sopranos that they missed last week, and everybody will be happy. HBO gets another revenue stream, and the customers get improved ease-of-use.

    On the other hand, you know that *somebody* will set up their PC with a cablecard (or whatever) and just start downloading everything they can get and then uploading it to the internet where non-subscribers can get it for free.

    HBO is understandably worried that if their most popular content is available for free, some customers will stop paying for it. Based on prior experience with people "pirating" cable, I can't say that they're wrong. People used to regularly break into our cable company's distribution boxes and strip off the notch filters back in the days of analog cable, and there's a brisk business out there on the internet for devices to help people to cheat cable & satellite TV channel restrictions.

    I'd like to believe that DRM-free media will eventually win out, because it's so much more convenient for everybody involved, from the producers, to the consumer electronics industry, to the end-user. Unfortunately, there's some anecdotal evidence from the recent experiences of the music industry that the existence of DRM-free digital coipies of content just leads to rampant copying, and that does have some negative effect on sales. The music industry went digital without an effective DRM system in place, and now they're stuck with it - you can't stop making CDs, or nobody would buy your music.

    That's a "mistake" video companies are eager not to repeat.

  22. Prior art by Vainglorious+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ZDNet's David Berlind already uses the acronym C.R.A.P. (for Content, Restriction, Annulment, and Protection)

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  23. I've heard this one... by argent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An old fellow is talking to his grand-daughter as he works in the garden, and he keeps talking about he manure he's spreading on the flowerbeds. The bothers the girl's mother and she asks her husband "I hope your father washes his hands before he comes in... and why can't he call it 'fertilizer' like polite folks"? He replies, "honey, it took us 30 years to get him to call it 'manure'".

    Look, folks, you got people to quit calling it "Copy Protection" because people got tired of the smell. Now it seems like it smells just as bad when you call it "Digital Rights Management". Calling it empowered this or enabled that isn't going to make it smell any better.

  24. Re: H.E.R.P.E.S. by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 4, Funny

    * Highly Effective Restriction of Personal Entertainment Systems
    * Had Ecstasy, Resigned to Pretty Excruciating Software
    * Hamstrung Electronic Reuse Platform--Extra Stupid
    * Half-assed Extra Rotten Playing Encryption Setup
    * Helps Evil Recording People Eat Sushi

  25. Re:I am a person! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am not a number! I am a man! And don't you eve... oh wait, I'm number 5. Haha. In your face, number 6!

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