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Mission Could Seek Out Spock's Home Planet

An anonymous reader wrote with a link to the official Planet Quest site. Planet Quest has the goal of exploring the galaxy via sophisticated instrumentation for another habitable planet. NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab is working to plan out missions for the project, and researchers are now theorizing that the instruments may be able to explore the system of 40 Eridani. Hardcore Trek fans may know 40 Eridani as the star associated with the planet Vulcan. "The SIM PlanetQuest instrument will be so accurate, it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon. Using a set of mathematical models based on Newton's Laws, Tanner was able to conclude that SIM would be able to definitively determine whether there is an Earth-mass planet orbiting in the habitable zone around 40 Eridani A, and could also determine its orbit. This is quite an exciting prospect, since NASA's Terrestrial Planet Finder mission, planned for launch after SIM, would not only be able to take a rudimentary 'picture' of the planet, but also could search for signatures of life such as methane and ozone."

173 comments

  1. Is this SETI 2.0? by QuantumG · · Score: 1

    Wonder how long before the marketing boys start calling it that.

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  2. *eyebrow raise* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    fascinating...

  3. Space. The final frontier. by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Space. The final frontier.
    These are the voyages of the starship Doogan.
    Her five year mission, to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisation.
    To boldly go where no man has gone before.

    You can just picture the comm message as Scotty tells the captain they won't leave earth orbit and will have to search for spock in New Mexico.

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  4. Methane and ozone, huh by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

    but also could search for signatures of life such as methane and ozone

    So we're only interested in flatulent life, then.

    1. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Reader+X · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is there any other kind?

    2. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Kawolski · · Score: 1

      So we're only interested in flatulent life, then.

      Everyone poops. [cue book cover pic]

    3. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe we have arrived after a beer & pizza party.

    4. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by illegalcortex · · Score: 3, Funny

      Can you imagine dealing with a life form that doesn't fart. I mean, it's embarrassing enough when one of the inmates makes a back door break-out with other humans around. But at least then you have the fall-back of knowing they've probably done it before, too.

    5. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 4, Funny

      The trick is to convince the non-farting aliens that farts are a sign of great social standing and virility. Make 'em feel inadequate due to their lack of this ability.

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    6. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by hamburger+lady · · Score: 3, Funny

      or, "nobody poops but you".

      or the catholic version, "You're a Naughty Child and that's Concentrated Evil Coming Out of the Back of You"

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    7. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Jenga717 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Maybe you should focus a little closer to home first. Here, I'll even help you:

      "The trick is to convince the [females] that farts are a sign of great social standing and virility. Make 'em feel inadequate due to their lack of [being able to control your] ability."

      We women already feel inadequate at being able to control the horrendous things that come out of the average man (from any hole). The only thing left to do is convince us that the copious amounts of gas seeping (or exploding) from your goatse-hole, directly correlates to how powerful and man-ly (thus desirable) you are. Should be...easy... :-)

    8. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by ndogg · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about? There's this alien species on Earth right now that do not fart. The proper Latin name for them is Prettius girlius. Sometimes they're colloquially known as hot girl or sexy girl or wayoutofmyleague girl.

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    9. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      I have shocking news for you. I mean really shocking. This is way more shocking then when they ate the mouse in V... They DO fart. It wasn't the dog. It wasn't that open garbage can. It was her all along!

    10. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by ndogg · · Score: 1

      Have you ever stuck your nose to one of their asses for 24 hours just to find out?

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    11. Re:Methane and ozone, huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not since the restraining order.

  5. In Soviet Vulcan... by nebaz · · Score: 0

    40 Eridani A finds you!

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    1. Re:In Soviet Vulcan... by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

      As long as "Ceti Alpha V" doesn't find me, I'll be happy.

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    2. Re:In Soviet Vulcan... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Nonono, not just, we still need a warp drive. When you build it, they will come.

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    3. Re:In Soviet Vulcan... by Phil246 · · Score: 1

      dont worry, that khaaant happen :)

    4. Re:In Soviet Vulcan... by alisson · · Score: 1

      No! This is Ceti Alpha VI! On Ceti Alpha V there was life!

  6. Only eggheads would look for Vulcan... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You would think that Borg technology on the other side of the galaxy would be a lot more interesting than a group of alien philosophers contemplating lint in their belly buttons. :P

    1. Re:Only eggheads would look for Vulcan... by Supurcell · · Score: 1

      Except I'd hate to be the guy looking through the telescope that spots the Borg cube and notices them looking back at us. First of all, it would be awkward that they caught us staring at them, and second of all, they'd have to come assimilate us after that.

    2. Re:Only eggheads would look for Vulcan... by Tatarize · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I would prefer that resources be allocated to only investigate Spock's mother's planet... which we have good data to suggest that it exists.

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    3. Re:Only eggheads would look for Vulcan... by 3waygeek · · Score: 1

      It exists -- there's just no intelligent life there.

    4. Re:Only eggheads would look for Vulcan... by Tatarize · · Score: 1

      As I didn't get any modding at all for that cleverness... I tend to agree.

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  7. First Vulcan /. post by eviloverlordx · · Score: 1

    Peace and long life.

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    1. Re:First Vulcan /. post by qweqwe321 · · Score: 0

      It's "live long and prosper." Didn't you ever see First Contact?

    2. Re:First Vulcan /. post by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh no, insane Star Trek nerdity nitpicking engaged. Setting nitpickiness to stun. Engage the nitpick drive.

      GP's phrase was used by another Vulcan in the actual Star Trek series. Both are valid.

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    3. Re:First Vulcan /. post by coyote-san · · Score: 2, Interesting

      According to a recent pop quiz by my girlfriend, the type who named her cat 'Tiberius' for some bizarre reason, that's the proper response to "live long and prosper." They go in a pair.

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    4. Re:First Vulcan /. post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If by girlfriend he means screwing someone in an orifice, then yes, that man IS his girlfriend.
      JK, congrats on finding a cool girl :D

    5. Re:First Vulcan /. post by Taco+Meat · · Score: 1

      So, ever get any girls into mom's basement? And girls dressed like Uhuro and Solo don't count. Jarjar the jedi? Surely you jest. He became a sythe like darf mall. I knew Gene Roddenberry. I used to cut his grass as a kid. I'd know.

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  8. that is illogical, captain ! by maharg · · Score: 1

    c'mon. logic says this is so unprobable that it will probably happen ;o)

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  9. I'll be impressed... by aluminumangel · · Score: 1

    ...if they can measure the thickness of the steps at Mount Seleya.

    1. Re:I'll be impressed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF- if they don't get working on that warp engine, the Vulcan ship will have no reason to stop here...

  10. Please cancel the mission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If we discover the Vulcans before the warp drive then our timeline will be wrong.

    1. Re:Please cancel the mission by Blob+Pet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to worry, we'll just label this mission as non-canon. Obviously Rick Berman had some hand in its creation.

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    2. Re:Please cancel the mission by mathcam · · Score: 1

      Our timeline got screwed up the second Captain Kirk travelled back through time and got Gene Roddenberry to make a show about his fantastical adventures. He's solely to blame for the mess our current timeline is in.

    3. Re:Please cancel the mission by El_Oscuro · · Score: 4, Funny

      My timeline got screwed up when I found the long lost "Restraunt at the End of the Universive" game in a close out bin at Egghead during the Win95 launch, after Microsoft had merged with Sirus Cybernetics Corporation. The game cost $9.99, along with $10 for some good British ale, leaving me with 1 penny in my Beezer bank account.

      After leaving Egghead, I noticed the sky was....

      Drinking 3 beers and waiting for the end, I noticed something out of the corner of my eye. A spaceship. Except, it looked more like a restraunt than a spaceship. Everyone else, was ignoring the spaceship. Just running around it, pretending it wasn't there.

      Slartbartfast came out of the ship, and said "Arthur Dent, we have been waiting 11 years for you to get the game. We need your help. The Restruant at the End of the Universe forgot to patch their time servers with the DST patch. As it turned out, one of the End of the Universe time-shifts occured during the DST switchover. Thus, The Restruant is exactly one hour in the future, after The End. With The Restruant after the End, then entire space-time continuim of the universe is unraveling. Our only hope is if you can find the patch, get to the Restruant, and apply it."

      You get into the ship and take off, the powerful Bistromathics drive getting you to Magrathea in seconds. You attempt to download the patch from the Sub-Etha-Net using your Guides newfangled "Sub-Etha-Net Explorer", but all it tells you is

      This page cannot be displayed

      There is an icon which looks like a paperclip on a piece of paper. It is winking at you...

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    4. Re:Please cancel the mission by rubycodez · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      we're already on a wrong timeline, the Borg took over the Republican party and now they're infecting the whole planet. Instead of an intelligent Borg Queen we have the Dumbass Borg King George, so fortunately for the universe we're doomed.

    5. Re:Please cancel the mission by cooley · · Score: 1

      That made me laugh, thanks.

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  11. Same thing different Star System by dcray2000 · · Score: 4, Funny


    We'll probably see a Vulcan in a skyscraper with a telescope looking back at us.

  12. meh by game+kid · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm hoping for CETI 5.0 (alpha) personally.

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    1. Re:meh by croddy · · Score: 2, Funny

      No! On CETI Alpha 5 there was life! A fair chance!

    2. Re:meh by Schemat1c · · Score: 1

      This IS CETI Alpha Five!

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    3. Re:meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Alpha Carinae (Canopus) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrakis

  13. Re:lol by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    Obviously they're hoping to find hot green alien chicks to have sex with to help cure their virginity

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  14. Outpost? by crabpeople · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wasn't that also one of the many stars you could fly to in outpost, the buggiest game of all time?

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    1. Re:Outpost? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      No. No matter what planet you picked it just sent you to Mars anyway. Your planet has a theme song, and it repeats over and over and over again.

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  15. Slashunits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The SIM PlanetQuest instrument will be so accurate, it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon.

    Yes, but how many football fields away can it measure the width of the Library of Congress from?

    1. Re:Slashunits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is actually a pretty good use of fake units. The average distance from the earth to the moon is 385,000,000 m. The thickness of a nickel is about .003 m. That corresponds to an arclength resolution of about 8E-12 radians. Small enough that Ruby's trig functions converge to the simple ratio. Small enough to be considered 0 in most contexts.

      captcha: cannabis. niiice.

    2. Re:Slashunits! by ChameleonDave · · Score: 1

      The article writer is indeed an idiot. If he is an American idiot, his "nickel" is (according to Wikipedia) 1.95mm thick. If he is a Canadian idiot, his "nickel" is 1.76mm thick.

      I have never seen either of these coins and probably never will. Why can't these morons just say "about 2mm"? Oh, I forgot: if we use the metric system, the terrorists have won.

    3. Re:Slashunits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I believe you did not ever see ANY coin, to have an idea how thick they are usually? Or does those +- 2mm make a difference to you? The idea of the equipment being "damn precise" came through to me, even though I also have never seen a nickel (or even knew how much it is, mind you).

    4. Re:Slashunits! by ChameleonDave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the general sort of size of any coin was what was intended, then he should have put "coin", not "nickel". And the use of real units would still be preferable. Fake units are appropriate only for the chronically uneducated.

    5. Re:Slashunits! by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      If the general sort of size of any coin was what was intended, then he should have put "coin", not "nickel".

      Nobody says "coin" colloquially anymore. They pick a random coin, and use that instead.

    6. Re:Slashunits! by veganboyjosh · · Score: 1

      i'm a fairly well travelled american (lived in 3 countries, been to over 20) and i am the last one to try and find out if the locals speak english so i don't have to learn their language.
        i'm wondering where you're from that you think you'll probably never see an american nickel.

    7. Re:Slashunits! by Mad+Marlin · · Score: 1

      No, they are talking about a Vulcan nickel of course, which is EXACTLY 1/8 inch thick, because that is the only logical measure of length.

    8. Re:Slashunits! by ChameleonDave · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm wondering where you're from that you think you'll probably never see an american nickel. I just haven't seen one in my 28 years, and don't see that changing.

      No, they are talking about a Vulcan nickel of course, which is EXACTLY 1/8 inch thick, because that is the only logical measure of length. Well, then I approve whole-heartedly!
    9. Re:Slashunits! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'm wondering where you're from that you think you'll probably never see an american nickel.

      I'm British, I've visited the USA, I have family members born and living over there. Not only do I not remember what size a nickel is, I don't even remember what it's worth. How important do you really think your currency is to the average person?

    10. Re:Slashunits! by Hyperspite · · Score: 1

      On google earth, the LOC is about .1 mile, which is 160934.4 millimeters. So if they can measure a nickel (1.95 mm) at 384,403 kilometres (center to center distance of the earth to the moon) and assuming that's the limit of their ability (which is not necessarily true I neglected to RTFA).

      If you draw out the triangle, you'll find the arctangent of 1.95/3.84403x10^10 = 2.91x10^-9 degrees.

      so that means that knowing that angle, we can find the max distance we can see the LOC at.

      dist = 160934.4/tan(2.91x10^-9) = 3.17x10^15 mm

      Anyway, that means that if you wanted to measure the distance to the library of congress in terms of football fields away (100 yd = 300*.305 m = 91 440 mm):

      3.17x10^15 mm / 91440 mm/football field = 3.47x10^10 football fields before you lose resolution on the library of congress

      There you go, an order of magnitude less than the square root of a mole. Have your delicious /units. I hope they were good.

  16. Why do we have to have Spock? by Castar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a Star Trek fan (although not so much of the original series, I have to admit), but I'm totally confused by this constant recent desire to tie every space mission to popular sci-fi. In a mainstream news article, I can understand it. But here on Slashdot? Do we really need Vulcans to be involved before we get excited about a *mission to explore another solar system*? That's incredibly cool on its own. By hyping it up as somehow Star Trek-related, you really minimize the plain awesomeness there is in space exploration.

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    1. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing wrong with hyping things with star trek. My lecturer spends all day explaining positivism and interpretivism using star trek examples.

    2. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by mrhifibanjostrings · · Score: 5, Funny

      You obviously underestimate the number of people who flip open their Razr phones like tricorders and make the "shhhhh" sound when they automatic doors open for them. Anything is cooler when you integrate Star Trek into it.

    3. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by dircha · · Score: 1

      "Do we really need Vulcans to be involved before we get excited about a *mission to explore another solar system*?"

      Maybe not, but it helps! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T'Pol

    4. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by nschubach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...or is anything cooler when you integrate it into Star Trek? Think about it. ;)

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    5. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Absolutely, yup, you're right.

      But....

      ....remember that to do stuff that we know is cool you have to convince the general public, who:
      1: Are a bit dim at times (average IQ of 100 apparently! ;)
      2: Are going to be paying for it either through taxes or by buying the products that have adverts plastered across the side of the spaceship.

      You've got to get the money from somewhere, and "cool" gets money these days.
      For the REAL future of space missions, see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN3JjUUdjWU - a bunch of British TV presenters decide to make a rocket...out of a 3 wheeled car. And it ends up being the largest non-commercial European space launch ever...now that's cool.

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    6. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by beadfulthings · · Score: 1

      Of course your post is very insightful. But there's a very good reason to involve Spock: It's fun. Where I am it's Friday. You might want to consider opening one of your favorite beverages and just observing the Friday-ness of it all.

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    7. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by Miseph · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not sure that even qualifies as debatable...

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    8. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      Too true. We could randomly choose any known trinary star system within range to resolve adequately, but you get a free 'nifty' factor when you can tie it in to some pop culture. I have absolutely no problem with this - we'll very likely learn something interesting even without finding the boring super strong, long lived, mating-on-a-seven-year-cycle, emotionally repressed green blooded aliens with arching eyebrows and condescending attitudes.

    9. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by bit01 · · Score: 1

      Anything is cooler when you integrate Star Trek into it.

      Not really. Anybody who confuses the coolness of real accomplishment with a childish fantasy like startrek really needs to get out more.

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    10. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by coaxial · · Score: 1

      And yet, that's exactly what the NASA press release did.

        Slashdot submitters frequently just copy and paste rather than write their own teasers.

    11. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by b4stard · · Score: 1

      Anybody who confuses the coolness of real accomplishment with a childish fantasy like startrek really needs to get out more.
      Nah, it's the others who should stay indoors more.
    12. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      And the recent bullshit "kryptonite" story about a newly found ore that happened to be similar to the label on a movie prop in a Superman sequel.

      Though the mainstream media lapped that one up too.

      It seems "Star Trek/Wars" is the Paris Hilton of Slashdot. Any story that can be linked to the phrase gets a headline. The sad thing is when, like this one, the story is inherently important. Still 95% of the comments are going to be lame Trek jokes.

    13. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by weinrich · · Score: 1

      Hey! You proved the point again by showing the need to point out that mission to everyone. It wasn't linked to Star Trek either, so it wasn't *obviously* cool. Logic dictates they should have had Nichelle Nichols (Lt. Uhura) co-host the launch.

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    14. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by bit01 · · Score: 1

      ut I'm totally confused by this constant recent desire to tie every space mission to popular sci-fi.

      Some of these story submissions and associated comments are likely to be SF marketing parasites. It gives them mindshare and by associating their fiction with real world accomplishment they give themselves legitimacy. /. is likely to be an primary SF demographic.

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    15. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by khallow · · Score: 1

      Why? It's a clever way to tie in real science with something that many people understand.

    16. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, the old quote quote probably never uttered by Spock was, "it's life, Jim, but not as we know it". By searching for methane & ozone etc, and by making assumptions when they conduct an analysis, they are simply looking for life as we know it.

    17. Re:Why do we have to have Spock? by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      Sorry my friend, this is Britain I'm talking about. It's more likely to be Billy Piper (last-but-one Doctor Who companion). Which is probably a little sad in itself.

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  17. Is it just me... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

    Or is more and more of our science funds going to PR stunts. It is sad to say, but I believe that NASA has outlived its usefulness.

    1. Re:Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) The mission isn't a publicity stunt. Tying it to Star Trek is, but that doesn't negate the scientific value in studying another star system that has planets. The impact it might have on terrestrial climatology alone is immense.

      2) The only missions get get much play in the media are the ones with some public interest. Yes, NASA probably runs publicity missions to keep people interested, but those are the only missions people hear about. You might want to look at, for instance, EOS 1 or the work in autonomous HUAVs that NASA has been doing. Partly due to the fact that attaching the words "NASA" "mission" and "failure" causes a lot of people to mumble about wasted funding (~$17 billion of a $2.8 trillion federal budget (for those who are too lazy to do the math, that's %0.6) this fiscal year), NASA doesn't publicize a lot of its work, which is a shame.

    2. Re:Is it just me... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 1

      I don't particularly like NASA's recent successes. The ISS, for instance, is a gigantic waste of money. Their future plans also lack any sort of foresight. A moon base without reasonable space infrastructure would be nothing more than expensive, likely tragic, showmanship.

      While I would see some benefit to finding a planet and sending a probe to monitor the alien climate and whatnot, I disagree that simply knowing that a rock is floating around a star is that interesting. When we have the means to get there, I will be much more excited about it. Right now, I want a real probe to go to Titan. We can visit that.

      Don't get me wrong, people can research whatever they want, and I am all for it. I just expect scientists to be above "I see a strange sand dune on Mars. This could be evidence of life!" "I found a planet. It could have life!" mentality that NASA is blatantly encouraging, many times rushing out statements of possible water/life before any real research is performed only to retract them later on. If you add that to our absolutely pointless manned space program, I think NASA is doing more bad than good.

    3. Re:Is it just me... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      ISS and men on Mars is more about engineering and politics than its is about science and exploration. NASA's "Great Observatories" set out to map the universe over the EM spectrum have been a great success. The inward looking projects such as LANDSAT are in the same category. Sadly autonomous exploration is alway the first to go when the budget is cut or a poltician has a "vision" that needs funding.

      "Right now, I want a real probe to go to Titan."

      We had one not long ago, it's autonomous mothership is also a probe that has still got a few flyby's left in it's mapping mission. What I would like to see is a probe go fishing in Europa's ocean.

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  18. This is weird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... first Krypton, now Vulcan...

    What's next? Alpha Tucanae I?

    Greetings form Chile.

  19. Re:Space. The final frontier. by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes I make mistakes. Don't we all?

    Don't many of us owe our very existence to mistakes that our parents made?

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  20. "SIM PlanetQuest..." by msauve · · Score: 1

    that sounds great. SIM Earth was fun!

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  21. Simple Enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can tell you right now how thick a nickel is on 40 Eridani: 1.95 mm

  22. If we hurry... by countSudoku() · · Score: 1

    We can get there in time for pon farr! Wacky giant Q-tip/axe weapons optional.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pon_farr

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  23. Re:Space. The final frontier. by eclectro · · Score: 2, Funny

    Her five year mission, to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilisation.

    Using today's technology, 1,000,000 year mission (roundtrip).

    If you don't run out of food.

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  24. There may be life... by dorianh49 · · Score: 1

    There may be life, just not as we know it.

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  25. Hardcore Trek fans by noidentity · · Score: 1

    "Hardcore Trek fans may know 40 Eridani as the star associated with the planet Vulcan."

    Unfortunately, hardcore Trek fans don't know that the planet Vulcan is fictional.

  26. Which nickel is it? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Insightful
    it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon.

    Is that a hot nickel, or a cold nickel?

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    1. Re:Which nickel is it? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      No, hot and cold are out. However, they haven't decided between a wooden nickel or a plugged nickel.

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    2. Re:Which nickel is it? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      More importantly, how does that translate to students per volkswagen or football field lengths stadiums^2?

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    3. Re:Which nickel is it? by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      So, how many libraries of congress can it measure per second?

  27. I'm sure the Mutzachans will find us first by jpfed · · Score: 1

    Hmmph. Apparently hardcore Battlelords fans are being left out of this.

  28. What about? by uberjoe · · Score: 1

    I just want to see what is at Wolf 359

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  29. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Tell that to your flip phone, the talking nav system in your car, your iPod, your flat-screen TV, all of that cool medical imaging equipment at the hospital that saved your various family member's lives and to the systems that helped to develop the heart pacemaker, for openers.

    Star Trek helped DEFINE cool for you non geeks.

    Without Star Trek, many of the scientists who developed those pieces of equipment never would have even gone INTO science and the vast majority of those cool gadgets YOU rely on to get laid with wouldn't even exist and you would have to rely on your complete lack of charm to try to be a success with women.

    To paraphrase William Shatner: "Get A CLUE!"

  30. TPF, SIM cancelled by bware · · Score: 1

    Of course, TPF and SIM were cancelled, sorry, "deferred." Got to keep the Hubble, ISS, and manned program going.

  31. Re:Calm yourselves. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2, Funny

    STAR TREK ISN'T REAL.

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...oh, wait, wrong franchise.

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  32. Near Light Speed Propulsion Space Craft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We will need new science and new technology like this.

    http://nlspropulsion.net/

  33. Re:Calm yourselves. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe that there are people out there that take these comments so seriously that they feel they need to point out that Star Trek is fictional. Get over yourself dude........

  34. Second Vulcan /. post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pon farr up your arse!

    1. Re:Second Vulcan /. post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You bastard now I've got to wipe Tea off my monitor and keyboard :D

  35. eh by djupedal · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The SIM PlanetQuest instrument will be so accurate, it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon."

    Last I heard the boys still had issues dealing w/simple math. It might be best to hold off on such parlor triks as this until the tutors come back with a reasonable report...

    1. Re:eh by Scaba · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why wait. I'm thinking it might be a lot easier to just measure the nickel right here on Earth. In fact, you don't even need to measure it, as someone has done it for us

  36. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I webbed you......that means you get the room".......

  37. Not all Star Trek fans wouldn't look for Vulcan by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Fans of the old Star Trek would probably prefer one of those many planets where kirk fought for some hot alien woman.
    Purists would want to maintain the storyline and have Vulcans be our first contact.

    1. Re:Not all Star Trek fans wouldn't look for Vulcan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call dibs on Shanna from "The Gamesters of Triskelion".

  38. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Star Trek nerds, lol. Your hobby is the cause of your virginity.

    Neither my wife or I are virgins.

  39. Next thing you know by Ardipithecus · · Score: 1
    we'll have illegal extraterrestrials.

    Nirvana for Rush and Lou

    1. Re:Next thing you know by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

      I thought that was Genesis.

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    2. Re:Next thing you know by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      we'll have illegal extraterrestrials.

      Maybe not. For all you know, Earth might be the Mexico of the galactic community...

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  40. Fictional by dangitman · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Uh, guys... Spock is a fictional character. That means he doesn't really exist. He is played by an actor named Leonard Nimoy, whose home planet is Earth.

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    1. Re:Fictional by MLease · · Score: 5, Funny

      Where's the "-1, Wet Blanket" mod option?!?

      -Mike

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  41. Re:Calm yourselves. by f4hy · · Score: 0

    ya the thing to yell in this one is Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaann

  42. Directional-spatial relationship management by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Using the co-ordinate system developed and patented by the Union Aerospace Corporation, the co-ordinates for Spock's birthplace are as follows:

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    (the more you know)

  43. Re:lol by symes · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    The SIM PlanetQuest instrument will be so accurate, it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon.

    This is quite an exciting prospect "quite"?! This is seriously cool... I'm no expert in such things but I am totally amazed by the ability of people to put together such a project. This is the real world, not science *fiction*. Hats off to them and I seriously hope they log into /. to fill us in on their progress.

  44. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this modded "funny" and not "troll"?

  45. Epsilon Eridani by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 4, Informative

    I must admit that I'm old enough to remember when Vulcan was supposed to be a planet of Epsilon Eridani, not 40 Eridani. Epsilon is much more Sun-like.

    Of course, the Vulcans would have to argue with the Comporellon folks, who also live in the Epsilon Eridani system. :-)

    ...laura

    1. Re:Epsilon Eridani by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      They'd also need to argue with the Earth Alliance, since Babylon 5 orbits the third planet of Epsilon Eridani. :-)

    2. Re:Epsilon Eridani by BRSloth · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A Hacker Girl who KNOWS Star Trek?!?!

      MARRY ME!

    3. Re:Epsilon Eridani by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      "A Hacker Girl who KNOWS Star Trek?!?!"

      The down-side is that a girl like that only puts out every seven years. For some it's also a plus side.

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  46. Finally! An end to the controversy! by GeekZilla · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does this mean that we can finally line up all the Neanderthals who still think the moon landing is a hoax, let them look through the shiny new "telescope" and see the lunar landers still parked where they landed about 38 years ago?

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    1. Re:Finally! An end to the controversy! by skoaldipper · · Score: 2, Funny

      If it's not a hoax, then tell me why after all those moon missions not one single astronaut brought back one single slice of cheese?

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    2. Re:Finally! An end to the controversy! by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Do you know the smell the moon cheese would have made in the space capsule during return to earth? If you knew, you'd not ask why they avoided that.

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  47. Re:lol by cp.tar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not green.

    Green-blooded.

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  48. Wow, am I going to get burned for this, but... by duck0 · · Score: 2

    ...Spock's home planet is Earth. His mother was a human and his father an ambassador to Earth named Sarek.

  49. Pedant police strike again by khallow · · Score: 1

    The Ariane 5 is the largest non-commercial (since it is operated by the European Space Agency or ESA) European launch vehicle and it first successfully launched in 1997. It can throw 16 metric tons into LEO.

    1. Re:Pedant police strike again by cooley · · Score: 1

      Ya throw 16 metric tons, and whad'ya get?

      Another pay-load and a trillion in debt

      Say Vulcan don't ya call me 'cause I can't go,

      Until I can build me a warp drive core....

      neeer, neeer, neeer, neeer, nee-ne-neer neeeeeeer

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    2. Re:Pedant police strike again by Lotana · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just 16 metric tons and it is currently the largest we can do?!

      What the hell happened to Energia's blueprints? That baby could place 100 metric tons into LEO!

    3. Re:Pedant police strike again by ObitMan · · Score: 1

      Brilliant.
      Just Brilliant.

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    4. Re:Pedant police strike again by khallow · · Score: 1

      Is there some need for Europe to put more into space? You don't use an semi-trailer truck to pick up snacks at the local store. And seven launches of the Ariane 5 puts up more than 100 tons.

    5. Re:Pedant police strike again by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      They still charge a hell of a lot if you want them to launch anything for you though, that makes it commercial in my book. The example I gave was non-profit making. Yes, they've probably made a lot of cash from the programme they made about it, but the launch itself was not commercial.

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    6. Re:Pedant police strike again by khallow · · Score: 1

      Costing a lot is not the measure of a for-profit organization or service. Making a profit is. Sure, when someone buys a launch the ESA charges more for the Ariane 5 than the marginal cost of that launch. But the Ariane 5 is a money loser overall. And it's run by a government agency that doesn't have an interest in making a profit. Having said that, I'd describe the Ariane 5 as a non-commercial vehicle that occasionally gets involved in commercial activities.

  50. Re:Pssst..... by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

    Heh heh... You get "troll" for "Spock is make believe".

    That'll teach you to stay away from controversy...

  51. oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new Vulcan overlords!

  52. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No GREEN, as in Orion Slave Girls.

  53. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. Now GTFO my slashdot MacFaggot.

  54. Re:ATTN: SWITCHEURS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bah! My Amiga is WAY better than your crappy macs AND your shitty PCs!

  55. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's great. All this high tech bullshit and they still can't find bin laden

  56. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virgins? Dont virgins have to takes iron supplemints or something sents they dont get that vitamen from not eating meats?

  57. Oh, great, more units by Dirtside · · Score: 2, Funny

    it could measure the thickness of a nickel at a distance from Earth to the moon

    Oh, great, another metric unit we have to memorize: Moon-Earth distance nickel thicknesses. How many Libraries of Congress is that?
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  58. Re:Calm yourselves. by bky1701 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Essssssssssssssssssssssssssssequemoooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooodeiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aa!

  59. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know your wife isn't a virgin. Her and I play Captain Kirk and Yeoman Rand everyday while you are at work.

  60. Re:Pssst..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    La La La La! I can't hear you! La La La La!

  61. Re:lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what the hell did that have to do with the post you replied to, karma whore?

  62. Re:lol by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Star Trek nerds, lol. Your hobby is the cause of your virginity."

    Yeah, I can easily imagine somebody anonymously flaming Star Trek nerds on a Friday night beatin the hotties off with a stick.

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  63. Re:lol by chawly · · Score: 0

    William who ?

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  64. If it's that accurate, can they point it at Luna? by jbeach · · Score: 1

    Just for long enough to send back pix of the remains of Apollo 1, so all these moon-landing deniers can STFU.

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  65. Re:lol by syousef · · Score: 1

    You over-estimate the influence of the show. If star trek hadn't been there other sci-fi would have filled its place. Imagination isn't the sole domain of any one piece of sci-fi, so lets not overstate it.

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  66. Re:Calm yourselves. by itsdapead · · Score: 1

    STAR TREK ISN'T REAL.

    What? Next thing you'll be telling me is that my Kryptonite pendant won't actually disable any passing superhumans!

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  67. Fulcan by Grindalf · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The historical origins. Fulcan is than name given to Earth at the time of the Dinosaurs. Fulcan was nearly wiped out when a meteorite hit earth, causing the Dinosaurs to die breathing fire / burning air. The Dinosaurs are called the Dragna in the "Wic" religion or Dragons in modern day English and Fulcan is a planitary deity in "Wic", and is also called "the lost planet" as everything was nearly killed in the following environmental catyclism.

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    1. Re:Fulcan by untree · · Score: 1

      I know this might sound crazy, but-- gah, nevermind I think you already said it.

  68. Why don't they look at Orion instead? by wolverine1999 · · Score: 1

    /ducks

  69. Re:If it's that accurate, can they point it at Lun by ObitMan · · Score: 2, Informative

    apollo 1 never made it off the ground.
    in fact Grissom, White and Chaffee were killed in a fire during the test.

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  70. Re:If it's that accurate, can they point it at Lun by falcon5768 · · Score: 1

    I think he meant Apollo 11. Remains in this case being the lower portion of the lander and other moon equipment we used.

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  71. Communicators, fool by slyborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Open their Razr phones like communicators, not tricorders. Instead they hold up their iPods and and do the "whirmrmrmr" sound while they "scan" the backside of some hottie on the subway, and say "Fascinating" with an upraised eyebrow.

    Also dawns on me that only people 35+ years old would have any association between a flip-phone and Star Trek's original communicators. Defines the generation that designed these phones as well as (apparently) Slashdot's demographic.

    Is it just me, or is it getting OLD in here??

    1. Re:Communicators, fool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Younger people like me (I'm 25) will have watched repeats of the original series and therefore could also make that association. Although I was a bit of a trekkie when I was younger.

  72. Re:If it's that accurate, can they point it at Lun by jbeach · · Score: 1

    Yah, my oops. Thanks for the correction. Apollo 11 then.

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  73. I call discrimination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Vulcans are just a vicious parody of Swedes. I guess Star Trek writers hate Swedes, so they made the 2nd banana an emotionless Swede, then gave him devil ears, green blood and no heart. Also they named the worst enemy of the federation after a Swedish tennis player.

  74. Re:Calm yourselves. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently someone didn't get the joke, the GGP was Essequemodeia, Khan........

  75. Quick question... by Rank_Tyro · · Score: 1

    I might have to turn in my geek card, but does Mr. Spock have a first name?

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    1. Re:Quick question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spock is his first name

  76. Please don't be so offensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know some are less knowledgeable than we are, but that isn't a reason for offending them. I mean, okay, they don't grasp the principles of science yet, but there's no need to compare poor Neanderthals to stupid moon conspiracy morons.

  77. Re:lol by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    Star Trek nerds, lol. Your hobby is the cause of your virginity.

    Or maybe their virginity is the cause of their hobby. Or maybe their virginity and their hobby share the same cause. Or maybe the two are unrelated. Or maybe Star Trek nerds aren't as virgin as their cracked up to be.

    Anyways, I don't care, I don't feel concerned, I'm neither a Star Trek nerd nor a... I'm not a Star Trek nerd..

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