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The Pirate Bay To Create YouTube Competitor
Jared writes "The Pirate Bay has confirmed that is working on a streaming video site with user-generated content. A spokesman said the site will be modeled after YouTube but there will be 'no censorship': The Pirate Bay 'will not be the moral police' and determine what content stays or goes as is oftentimes the case with YouTube. He added that 'the community will have to do that.'" The site will be at thevideobay.org, but nothing is up there for the public yet.
Their version of YouTube will have no copyright infringement.
It will be interesting to see what happens if the new pirate bay video site becomes as popular as youtube. As more sites pop up that dont have restrictions on hosted content, what is going to happen to the other content providers who are restricted to what content they can host?
http://www.xtube.com/ and http://www.pornotube.com/ beat them to it.
Let's be honest, that's what we're talking about here.
If child porn (posted by RIAA/MPAA minions) doesn't get PirateBay shut down, nothing will.
If the community controls it, that means censorship through mob rule. Post something from Ogrish? Maybe it'll get zapped even though that's a form of censorship.
Freedom of speech exists not so people can say things that other folks agree with, it's so that the unpopular opinions can exist too. That's why Illinois Nazis (I hate those guys) can do their thing, not just the civil rights marchers.
So, in practice, I bet there'll be little difference between the end product and YouTube. New boss will be same as the old boss, except instead of a room of guys with thin mustaches and black eyebands that cackle as they zap content, it'll be legions of computer users doing the same thing.
And they thought the last lawsuit and raid were bad... I guess they can show the videos from their torrent site now. lol
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While I don't believe in censorship, this will likely last extremely briefly. For one, pedophiles will likely lurk there... Secondly, judging by what the US government is doing - censoring troops from MySpace, etc, soldiers will likely post videos there to the dismay of politically idiotic government who will call for a ban... Not to mention moronic terrorists using it as a forum to post their hatred. Hey I'm all for it, but expect it to last no more than a half a year.
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I'm sick of seeing worthwhile content getting pulled from valid sites. I remember looking for some video clips of Carl Sagan's appearances on Johnny Carson's show, and finding links to them in an index, but then getting there and finding that they had been pulled due to copyright restrictions.. I do hope this site can make it through. Like other posters mention, porn, especially pedo, may be an issue... but it's the cost of free speech. Althgouh I hope at least some level of self-censoring is put into place. I mean, there *has* to be a limit somewhere.... right?
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So, in practice, I bet there'll be little difference between the end product and YouTube.
There'll be more porn. More, weirder porn. I'm looking forward to it.
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http://www.tv-links.co.uk/ Someone beat them to it.
How is this legal? I can understand how a tracker is legal, since they aren't hosting the actual files on their own server, but unless they come up with a way to do p2p video streaming, I can't imagine how this will stay up very long.
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If implemented properly this video service could be quite useful for pirate bay users. Imagine if you could use it to preview the quality of a movie before you torrent it. That would save a ton of wasted bandwidth previously used for mistakenly grabbing a camcorder-quality flick.
Of course the video quality would have to greatly surpass that of youtube for this to work...
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I'm not sure that it is a good idea for TPB to try to build an real business running a proper internet service. The many software developers here on /. will tell you that there is a massive difference between what it takes to host the current TPB website, and what it would take to develop and deploy a youtube rip-off.
Developing such a site demands a return on investment, which calls for a business model and legitimate corporate structure, which will ultimately require them to protect themselves by censoring their users and removing illegal content.
Looks to me like the start of a slippery slope - if TPB ever goes legit it will bring about the end of an era. Until copyright law is reformed on the international stage, true rebels will have to remain completely outside of the system.
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(Though one of their test uploads looks to be NSFW) google cache of thevideobay.org/recent
Prior to shutting down all external links that were left live, they were using flvplayer.js with this header in the javascript.
i live by this rule: "Dont like it, Dont download it"
no "Dont like it, dont download it, whine until content i dont like is deleted"
i believe in total freedom of information, some may agree, some may not. But you have to agree other peoples "lines" as you put it, are not always in the same place as yours, and its not so nice when what YOU think is OK starts getting removed.
Oops, it appears the flash player is still live: http://thevideobay.org/player/flvplayer.swf
You can also download some of the sample uploaded vids, but some are VERY weird.. probably nsfw.. you have been warned!
http://video01.thevideobay.org/vids/38.flv (replace "38" with any number)
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You're a rather brave chap to post this as a non-ac, wish I had some mod points. Sometimes I wonder if people that take a subject to the absolute extreme to point of being ridiculous or peddle hatred to whoever really think that what they are doing is in the spirit of 'freedom of speech'. I'm for freedom of speech and expression, but some people just blatantly abuse it for their own perverse agenda.
And no, I couldn't give a shit what my karma is.
"In a marked change of approach, the RIAA and MPAA recently fired their entire legal staff, and began purchasing surpluss cruise missles from the US military."
Moral? Er, doesn't it just mean, "the police"? Sharing copyrighted material is a legal matter, it's not like debating the ethics of euthanasia.
One of the samples on the google cache seems to be a midget gangbang scene...
Or the main stream won't notice because censorship is a nerd issue. So for the last time, there are no girls surfing youtube that want to see you naked.
Also Sweden's laws allow hosting .torrents as they are not copyrighted, but tpb will have all the same headaches as anyone else if they start serving up tv rips off their servers.
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I was also wondering about the same thing, for is censorship any less wrong when it's done by the many instead of the few?
reveal a kinda disturbing google cache of the site :P
If you're for "no censorship", there is no "except". There is no wiggle room here. You're either for it, or against it. If you wish to censor anything, then you are for censorship. It can't get any simpler than that. So, what's it going to be?
What?
If they are line drawings, sure it would be ok. That would be considerd ( sick ) art.
And dont forget, in some countries its a right to do things that isnt ok here ( whereever 'here' happens to be ). So who's 'rights' and 'morals' should prevail? Mine? Yours? How about the guy that thinks cows are his reincarnated relatives and is sacred so eating them is immoral? Or the guy that has a right to carry a firearm?
Nothing is black and white, unless we all end up living under ONE government at some point.
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Did you people know that it's 100% legal for Swedes to watch copyrighted streaming video? (without holder's permission)
.torrent files of course are.
I'm not sure about the USA, but over here, it's not put in the same class as downloading. That's illegal as usual.
So while the uploader may well be a criminal according to Swedish law, due to the design, that'll probably be very time consuming to prosecute those. Much like individual BitTorrent original seeders. You don't see those punished often. And all Swedish users of the site would use it legally. I'm not sure where the host would stand legally, but then again, I'm not sure TPB will be the hosting server either, or if it'll be distributed to a third party (read: country).
So, once again, they're seeking to enter a legal loophole much like The Pirate Bay currently operates within the boundaries of a Swedish "BBS law" where it's OK to host non-copyrighted content, which
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http://www.pornotube.com/ is a shit. Don't use it.
They'll probably locate the servers in Arrrgentina, Arrrmenia, and Arrruba.
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I don't actually disagree with anything you say, but I think I didn't really make my point clear. I think some people use freedom of speech as an excuse just to slander. I've been on the receiving end of it (for being a lesbian in a place where it definitely was not the thing to be) and while I couldn't give a shit what they thought about me it does get to the point where it's not just freedom of expression, it's just hatred. I think that I'm pretty liberal (I'm Australian, liberal has quite a different non-political meaning to us)and most things don't bother me, but where is the point where freedom of speech becomes exclusion through majority hatred? Perhaps I'm not articulate enough, but I'm trying to make my point without getting all PC, I have an intense dislike for all things PC :)
What you said about the south and the integration of church with state makes me curious. America is secular by law as far as I know, how do they justify legally this behavior?
I think it's a noble thing to join the military to serve your country and the values that are central to it, but it annoys the living shit out of me see that loyalty abused through ulterior motives of the executive. It's an abuse of the trust of those in authority.
New Zealand, the country I originally came from until 2000, for all it's faults generally has a good policy with the deployment of it's modest armed forces. Mostly they are employed as peace makers and peace keepers in neighbouring states that suffer unrest. Although NZ's force is very modest, especially compared to US, it's pretty hard to argue that their policy is unjust or cynical; they serve the interests of human rights and not economics. New Zealanders have a strong sense of a fair go. This foreign policy of NZ is rarely critised, but when the US does similar it attracts criticism for arrogantly assuming the role of the world police. That's hypocrisy born from a unprejudiced disposition I believe. I think this is policy that should be encouraged and supported, especially compared to recent endevours. Even in the face of harsh judgment, fighting for the human rights of your fellow man, particularly when their culture is vastly different than your own, is a noble cause. All evil needs to prevail is for good men to do nothing, so someone once said.
Thanks for your reply, I found it very interesting. Mercedes
And no, I couldn't give a shit what my karma is.
The majority wins? That is how we got the Salem witch trials. That is how we got WWII started .. and millions of the 'minority' were gassed in Germany as a result.
god's morals are absolute? No, you will find that even that changes as time goes on, since religion is a scam and every sect re-invents themselves often to keep the revenue stream going.
Most things dealing with people, when you get down to it, are grey. Sure it might be 'simpler' if the world was more concrete and absolute, but its not how the world really works.
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