Michigan Man Charged for Using Free WiFi

Nichole writes "Sam Peterson II was charged with unauthorized use of computer access for using a coffee shop's free WiFi. He is facing a 5 year felony charge and a $10,000 fine but apparently got off lucky and received only a $400 fine and 40 hours of community service because he was a first time offender. 'it seems few in the village of Sparta, Mich., were aware that using an unsecured Wi-Fi connection without the owner's permission--a practice known as piggybacking--was a felony. Each day around lunch time, Sam Peterson would drive to the Union Street Cafe, park his car and--without actually entering the coffee shop--check his e-mail and surf the Net. His ritual raised the suspicions of Police Chief Andrew Milanowski, who approached him and asked what he was doing. Peterson, probably not realizing that his actions constituted a crime, freely admitted what he was doing ... [the officer] didn't immediately cite or arrest Peterson, mostly because he wasn't certain a crime had been committed.'"

Comments

Here We Go

[pete-classic]

Let the "This is SPARTA!" jokes begin.

-Peter

Re:Here We Go

[j00r0m4nc3r]

"Lay down your laptop and WiFi card."
"Come and get them!"

Re:Here We Go

[AndroidCat]

Tonight we surf in Hell!

Re:Here We Go

[Esion Modnar]

I just came in here for the Sparta jokes, and so far have been really disappointed. So here goes.

"Our WiFi access will blot out the Sun!"
"So we will surf in the shade!"

Re:Here We Go

[Anonymous Coward]

Tonight we surf in Jail! There, fixed.

Re:Here We Go

[h2g2bob]

Sorry, but Big Iron-y is IBM...

Re:Here We Go

[Esion Modnar]

Don't try to understand strained humor written by somebody with just 5 hours of sleep. It will just hurt your brain.

So using this logic....

[ip_freely_2000]

...people who can sit outside a baseball stadium or concert from some vantage point and watch the game/performance for free are also commiting a felony.

Re:So using this logic....

[joebok]

No, not at all - no computers are involved in analog baseball. However, if you were watching somebody play Head to HEad Madden '07 on their PSP on the bus, then they could cart your ass off to jail.

Re:So using this logic....

[paeanblack]

...people who can sit outside a baseball stadium or concert from some vantage point and watch the game/performance for free are also commiting a felony.

That analogy holds right up to the point you send your first packet to their network. After that, you are no longer a passive spectator...you are playing in a completely different ballgame, with completely different rules.

When you ask yourself "am I allowed to use this network?", "I don't know" does not equal "yes". The onus is upon you to verify that you are not trespassing before proceeding. In this particular case, it doesn't initially appear that any malice was involved. $400+40hrs sounds a little steep, but not in the realm of the unreasonable.

Re:So using this logic....

[Mockylock]

It's also like a company dropping money on the ground in front of their store and arresting anyone who picks it up.

Re:So using this logic....

[mcrbids]

...people who can sit outside a baseball stadium or concert from some vantage point and watch the game/performance for free are also commiting a felony.

No. In your example, there's no computer involved.

Really, there are two contradictory laws at stake, here.

1) According to the FCC, it's perfectly legal to receive ANY BROADCAST TRANSMISSION. I can set up a radio receiver and pick up whatever happens to be in the air. This includes wifi broadcasts, which are really nothing more than a cordless phone combined with a MODEM.

2) But, it's also illegal in most areas to "access computers or computer networks without permission". They stand in contradiction to each other. The part that's odd here is that the WIFI spot announces itself as unencrypted, sort of like a welcome sign. How did this guy not have permission to access the network?

I personally think that wireless networks, even those that are being broadcast in unlicensed spectrums (like wifi) should be illegal to access if the "digital doorknob" is locked. If you have to enter in a password or decryption key, even a weak one like WEP, it's illegal to access. But, if it's open/unencrypted, then you should be free to act with impunity.

This is how we interpret things more physically. AFAIK here in California, if you approach my house and the front door is closed such that you have to turn the doorknob to enter it, it's illegal to enter without a specific invitation. (EG: "Come on in" sign, me hollering for you to, whatever) But if the door is open, you can enter with impunity - having the door open can be considered an invitation to enter.

(IANAL, etc)

So why would wireless networks be any different? Don't want people accessing your network? Put up a password/encryption key. Otherwise, your door is open, and people can (and probably will) enter.

PS: More than once, I've trolled middle-class neighborhoods for a hotspot in a pinch. It seems that the best neighborhoods are the straight-up middle class ones - lower classes don't tend to have high-speed connections, upper classes tend to hire tech weenies to set up their networks, and they usually secure them. But the guys in the middle buy their Linksys routers at Best Buy, take them home, plug them in, they work, and they stop there.

Re:So using this logic....

[MrNaz]

Oh well that makes the totally unreasonable nature of what happened OK then. I'm glad that I'll only ever be arrested for things that are illegal so as long as I'm not a terrorist criminal pirate general bad guy I'll be fine. I'm also glad I can trust the government to keep the letter of the law such that it only makes bad stuff illegal.

I like it here in your little fantasy world. I'd stay, except I'm not a total bloody retard.

Re:So using this logic....

[fumblebruschi]

In fact the Chicago Cubs sued their neighbors for precisely that reason. There are buildings near Wrigley Field where you can sit on the roof and see the field (I believe Wrigley is the only ballpark where that's possible) and the Chicago Tribune, which owns the Cubs, has tried for years to get the city to force their neighbors to take down the seats on their roofs. No success yet.

Re:So using this logic....

[Nezer]

1) According to the FCC, it's perfectly legal to receive ANY BROADCAST TRANSMISSION. I can set up a radio receiver and pick up whatever happens to be in the air. This includes wifi broadcasts, which are really nothing more than a cordless phone combined with a MODEM.

While it might be legal to receive any broadcast transmission, it would be difficult to check email and surf the web without transmitting something.

This application of the law is, of course, ridiculous. The EFF or someone should really step-in and do something.

Personally, I would have fought tooth and nail over this law had it been me. I *might* could be persuaded into agreeing that it is wrong (morally though not legally) to sit outside someones house and mooch their unsecured wifi but this is a public business that, presumably, advertises (or at least provides) this service to the public in order to increase business.

Re:So using this logic....

[susano_otter]

When you ask yourself "am I allowed to use this network?", "I don't know" does not equal "yes". The onus is upon you to verify that you are not trespassing before proceeding.

What about when my very first act is to ask the network administrator if I'm allowed to use his network, and he says "yes"? Is it okay then? What if my NIC asks his router if I'm allowed to use his network, and his router says "yes"? Is it okay then?

Re:So using this logic....

[Chris Burke]

I personally think that wireless networks, even those that are being broadcast in unlicensed spectrums (like wifi) should be illegal to access if the "digital doorknob" is locked. If you have to enter in a password or decryption key, even a weak one like WEP, it's illegal to access. But, if it's open/unencrypted, then you should be free to act with impunity.

I'd say that a network that is unsecured and broadcasting its SSID is essentially an invitation to join that network. An unsecured network that is not broadcasting an SSID is like a house with the door closed but not locked -- you don't have permission to enter, even though it is still trivial to do so. A secured network, even if the security is weak, is like a locked door. It might only take a single kick to knock it in, but that's still B&E.

The problem though is that the default setting of wireless routers is unsecured and SSID broadcast enabled, and of course like with everything few people ever change the defaults. It makes it easy for anyone to set up a network -- turn on the router, click "Find network" on the PC, done -- but the result is we have tons of unsecured, open networks whose owners may not want to be open but don't know how to say that in wireless protocol terms.

Re:So using this logic....

[Sparr0]

I bear that onus by asking the router "Can I use your network?", to which it replies "Sure, here's your IP, and you can use this IP as a Gateway". That doesnt sound like "I don't know" to me, it sounds more like "Yes".

I know we all love analogies around here, and most of them are pretty off the wall, so let me see if I can come up with a more direct correlation to all the parts of the "crime" here.

Your front yard has a water fountain sitting next to the sidewalk. You pay for the water. The fountain only works by use of a key. But you have a machine sitting next to the fountain that produces a key for anyone who presses a button labelled "Press here to request access to water fountain". Am I committing a crime by pressing the button and then drinking the water?

Re:So using this logic....

[gorfie]

But where were the no tresspassing signs? Taking this analogy one step further, can someone get in trouble for crossing through a private (yet clearly unsecured) field if it isn't marked as "private" / "no tresspassing"? It should be up to the owners to secure their property or at least mark it such that others know it is restricted/private.

Re:So using this logic....

[cayenne8]

"I'm glad that I'll only ever be arrested for things that are illegal so as long as I'm not a terrorist criminal pirate general bad guy I'll be fine. I'm also glad I can trust the government to keep the letter of the law such that it only makes bad stuff illegal."

Hear hear!!

Man..this sucks...neither he nor the operator of the coffee shop knew they were committing a crime, it sounds like the owner of the open wifi didn't care to press any charges, and YET, this guy while getting off 'easy' is now a convicted FELON!! So much for the rest of his life as far as getting jobs, owning a firearm, or possibly even voting.

On another note....I wonder what other states have laws like this??

Re:So using this logic....

[flyingfsck]

Exactly, 'DHCP == Asking for and receiving Permission' in my book and I think that when you go and lay out the protocol to a judge he would concur.

Re:So using this logic....

[bluekanoodle]

No, a better analogy would if you hooked up your hose to the water spigot, and left it spraying out into the middle of the street. In this case anyone could come by and use the water that you are "broadcasting" into the street to wash their car.

Re:So using this logic....

[jc42]

That analogy holds right up to the point you send your first packet to their network. After that, you are no longer a passive spectator ... When you ask yourself "am I allowed to use this network?", "I don't know" does not equal "yes".

Actually, if our legal system were rational, there would be a trivial answer: As soon as that packet is either accepted (and forwarded) or rejected (and bounced) by the AP, you'd know. If the packet was accepted, then the AP has in fact allowed you to use it. And it didn't do this by accident. It was explicitly programmed to behave that way. Or, more likely, the software has config setting saying whether to accept or reject packets from unregistered devices, and the AP's owner has set this to "accept". You should be able to tell the court "My packets were accepted and delivered; it's clear that I was in fact allowed to use the AP."

The tired old road analogy might help: If you're driving along, pass through an intersection, and continue on the road on the other side, how do you know if it's legal for you to drive there? Pretty much everywhere in the world, the same rule applies: If there's some sort of "no entry" or "private road" sign, then you probably shouldn't drive there. If there's no such sign restricting access, then you are allowed to drive there. Any court would interpret the lack of an explicit sign to mean that the public is permitted to use the road. The fact that someone (maybe the town, maybe a private owner) owns the road is irrelevant; you won't be arrested for driving on a road without signs that tell you the rules. We all understand that, without this rule, our road system would be unusable.

But someone else pointed out the magic word that makes this case an exception: "computer". We seem to be in a phase where, the instant a computer gets involved, all social and legal precedent goes out the window, and everything must be relearned from scratch. Any attempt to explain the precedent gets a "But that's different" reply, with no coherent explanation of what the difference is or why it matters. The mere presence of a computer invalidates everything you ever knew, and you have to fight all the old fights all over again.

But in a few centuries, it'll probably settle down, and computers (like roads, cars, etc.) will just be tools that are treated like all other tools.

We can hope that freedom of speech, communication, expression, whatever survive the relearning process ...

(I do wonder what the court would say if the defendant here were to file an "entrapment" suit against the store owner. After all, there are a lot of open-access APs around. How is one to know while traveling whether any given AP is legally usable? This decision potentially makes it rather risky to just be a traveler in Michigan, especially now that cars are starting to come with onboard networks and comm equipment. It's just a matter of time until someone is arrested while driving along I-94 because their car used a local AP to talk to the factory or download a map. ;-)

Re:So using this logic....

[furball]

What if my NIC asks his router if I'm allowed to use his network, and his router says "yes"? Is it okay then?

This is true if and only if his router speaks for him. Legally, since you can't transfer power of attorney to an inanimate object, this is legally dubious. It makes perfect sense that his router speaks for him if you are not a lawyer, not trained as one, and have basically no knowledge of the law.

Re:So using this logic....

[blueskies]

Then how do i know if i'm allowed to connect to a person's webserver? Does their webserver legally speak for them? Or is it because the webserver is setup to be publically accessible following understood standards? Why can't you connect to a router wifi access point when it is configured to give public access?

Re:So using this logic....

[Mattintosh]

Let's take your "house" analogy a bit further.

First, we identify the players in this game.

You = You.
Network = House.
Router = Door.

Now, what we have is a House, protected by a Door with a button and a sign. The sign says, "Push the button and I'll open the door if you meet my criteria." The button causes the Door to be opened if you meet the criteria set forth by the owner of the House and the Door.

You walk up to the House, read the sign and push the button. The Door opens to allow you into the House.

Is it trespassing? No. The button is a machine tasked with carrying out the owner's directions. It's interesting to note that replacing a button with a motion sensor gives you the very same automatic doors that most retail stores have. It is not trespassing.

So change the nouns around. Is it trespassing if a router gives you access to a network according to the owner's directions? Answer: No it is not.

Re:So using this logic....

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you also argue that if you put a sign that says "this this - free" on some object in your lawn that you can charge a person with theft for taking it because the sign doesn't have power of attorney?

Re:So using this logic....

[Mattintosh]

I'm pretty sure that all routers purchased new from the store come with an instruction manual (dead-tree or electronic) and a setup wizard that will guide you through that process manually or automatically.

Dumb is not a valid excuse anymore. Not on this topic, and not for the last 4 or 5 years.

Re:So using this logic....

[hotdiggitydawg]

I do wonder what the court would say if the defendant here were to file an "entrapment" suit against the store owner. After all, there are a lot of open-access APs around. How is one to know while traveling whether any given AP is legally usable? This decision potentially makes it rather risky to just be a traveler in Michigan, especially now that cars are starting to come with onboard networks and comm equipment. It's just a matter of time until someone is arrested while driving along I-94 because their car used a local AP to talk to the factory or download a map. ;-) I remember talk of some Windows O/Ses (possibly others too, not singling out Microsoft here) automatically connecting to the strongest available WiFi - add various network-sensing apps into the mix (EG. Windows Update, spyware, whatever) that auto-transfer whenever a connection is available and Joe Sixpack could potentially be committing a felony without even knowing he is doing it. Say the fella happened to stop within range of the WiFi, opened his laptop and started working on a Spreadsheet or some other local app. He has no idea what his NIC or his O/S is doing.

If "I don't know how to configure my network/AP to prevent unauthorised access" is a valid argument for the prosecution, then surely "I don't know how to configure my laptop to prevent unaithorised access" is also just as valid as an argument for the defendant.

Re:So using this logic....

[squiggleslash]

Web servers are intended for the dissemination of information to third parties. Wi-fi gateways are basic infrastructure, and can be reasonably be considered intended for the use of authorized parties only, given most people are unlikely to want anonymous third parties using their network without permission.

And using the term "configured to give public access" is framing. The correct term is "unconfigured" in the vast majority of gateways. It's no more "configured to give public access" than a door that's been left unlocked is likewise.

In the real world, there are many objects that provide access to things where the configuration and existence of the object does not necessarily imply anything about the right of third parties to use what they provide access to. A garden gate can reasonably be assumed, if the gate is unlocked, to be not intended as a barrier to prevent a visitor from entering. A front door, however, can be reasonably assumed whether locked or unlocked to be a boundary over which a visitor cannot cross without explicit permission. The mistake of many on the "Unlocked WAP means I'm allowed in" argument is to assume such a state of affairs does not exist, and that you can reasonably make assumptions about whether you're allowed to do something on the basis of whether it's easy or not.

As always, there's a solution: just ask. If you're afraid to ask someone if they'd mind if you used their Internet connection via their WAP, you might want to ask yourself whether you really have their consent.

Re:So using this logic....

[Nukenbar]

I walk into unlocked front doors everyday without explicit permission.

These places are called stores.

Re:So using this logic....

[dweller_below]

This outlines another, deeper problem.

The law is not an end to itself. Nor does the law only exist to support lawyers.

The law must support the people. The people must understand the law. It must exist in their hearts. It must resonate with them.

Without the support and understanding of the people, the law is just tyranny.

I believe that this is the whole intent of jury trials and Jury Nullification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_Nullification) It exists to keep the law and the people in sync.

Miles

Re:So using this logic....

[poot_rootbeer]

Your front yard has a water fountain sitting next to the sidewalk. You pay for the water. The fountain only works by use of a key. But you have a machine sitting next to the fountain that produces a key for anyone who presses a button labelled "Press here to request access to water fountain". Am I committing a crime by pressing the button and then drinking the water?

I'm sorry, your analogy must contain at least one automobile. Please try again.

Re:So using this logic....

[GSloop]

The heck it isn't! (Sheesh)

What's an SSID? (Service Set ID)
When it broadcasts, it IS advertising service. (WiFi Service here!)

You don't have to broadcast SSID's and without them, you can't attach to the Wifi Network. (Many routers offer the ability NOT to broadcast the SSID.)

But if your broadcast that you're offering service, you then answer in the affirmative when asked for a IP (DHCP) I simply can't see how anyone can consider this "unauthorized." Short of getting written, signed by the authorized agent of the WiFi Network that you (specifically) are authorized, you could be successfully prosecuted for "unauthorized" access, simply because you couldn't prove you'd gotten "authorized" access.

I mean damn. You BROADCAST an SSID. You futhter allow a DHCP address to be assigned to an unkown MAC address, and then forward and receive packets from it.
The SSID broadcast is the AVDERTISING of the service.
The granting of the DHCP request with an IP is the EXPLICIT permission to use the network.

If you intended it to be private, you either encrypt it, authenticate it, or block unknown MAC addresses, or fail to lease IP's to unkown clients.

But if you INTEND to let everyone use it, as an OPEN AP, you do just as the coffee shop did.

-Greg

Re:So using this logic....

[blueskies]

Woah. Wi-fi gateways could be said to be intended for people to connect to. And you can't just say most people are unlikely to want anon third parties to use their networks, because the same goes for someone putting up pictures of their family on their webpage. They might want to only share those pictures with their family, but since they don't put an access method on them, anyone can access them.

When an OS on 98% of all computers automatically makes you a criminal under your reading of the law, something is wrong in a BIG way. XP before service packs, would automatically connect you to publically accessable Wi-fi APs. It's a de facto standard that an unsecured AP is an invitation for public use--this is the intented use. Just like people would laugh until it hurt if you tried to suggest that items you placed on a publically accessible web server without access controls were illegal to access.

It's no more "configured to give public access" than a door that's been left unlocked is likewise.

I believe it should be "than a door that's been left open." Closed and locked would be wep or wpa and mac address filtering.

WEP is the closed and locked front door of access points. Just because people are ignorant and are too dumb to close their front front door doesn't mean the rest of the world should suffer.

Case law has helped shape closed front doors in the physical world as legal boundaries; i hope case law catches up and makes a definitive answer that wep, wpa, or other methods are required to act as the front door in the wireless world.

Re:So using this logic....

[Danse]

What kind of bizarre background did you have growing up, that machines can give or refuse permission in the human and / or legal sense?

Probably a world in which we are granted or denied access to all kinds of things by machines every day of our lives.

Re:So using this logic....

[jridley]

So then if I *WANT* to allow anyone to attach to my router and use my bandwidth freely, how do I do it? I have been just leaving the router open. I figure that WEP is the equivalent of posting "no trespassing" signs. It won't actually stop anyone that wants to use the connection but it makes it obvious that they're not welcome.

If you're saying that the presumption must be that even if a connection is open, you're not welcome, then how do I set up a hot spot that I want people to use? Do I need to put my physical address in the SSID so they can come and ask? I don't want people to physically bother me asking, I just want them to use it. I guess the SSID could read "FREE WIFI HELP YOURSELF" but that's kind of kludgy.

Re:So using this logic....

[drmerope]

Michigan's unauthorized access statute, does in fact grant a rebuttal presumption that access was unauthorized. This means that the defendant, not the prosecution has the burden of proof on this question. This is unusual. Usually, the operator must make the exclusion clear and the prosecution must prove that the defendant ignored and/or circumvented the prohibitions. Michigan's law may in fact be an unconstitutional violation of due process as a result. See Sandstrom v. Montana, 442 U.S. 510 (1979)

Second, even if the statute is constitutional, the law may been misapplied. The access is not illegal if

Access was achieved without the use of a set of instructions, code, or computer program that bypasses, defrauds, or otherwise circumvents the pre-programmed access procedure for the computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network.

So basically this guy had a bad lawyer. What he did was in fact not a crime.

Re:So using this logic....

[drooling-dog]

It doesn't in any way matter what the machine-to-machine protocol is! Excuse me while I slap my forehead in disbelief at what I've been reading here. Extending permission to use the network is the whole point of those protocols. That is what they (e.g., DHCP) do, and that is the only reason you'd be running them on a machine connected to a wireless router.

This guy was charged with a felony because the owner of the network (who didn't press charges, as I understand) might not have realized that he was giving permission to others to use his network, which in fact he was. Pretty flimsy reason to ruin someone's life, no? That's pretty much the only reason that coffee shops even have wireless access points.

Re:So using this logic....

[manifoldronin]

Web servers are intended for the dissemination of information to third parties. Wi-fi gateways are basic infrastructure, and can be reasonably be considered intended for the use of authorized parties only, given most people are unlikely to want anonymous third parties using their network without permission.

I find the words you use above like "intended" and "basic infrastructure" very arbitrary. Web servers can be argued to be part of the basic infrastructure of any entity with online presence, and most web servers are set up to allow anonymous access without permission. Both web servers and wifi gateways are set up to open up some sort of "portal" to allow access to information that otherwise cannot be accessed.

A garden gate can reasonably be assumed, if the gate is unlocked, to be not intended as a barrier to prevent a visitor from entering. A front door, however, can be reasonably assumed whether locked or unlocked to be a boundary over which a visitor cannot cross without explicit permission.

This is arbitrary, too. Logically or conceptually I don't see any definitively clear line that can be drawn between a garden gate and a front door and a thousand other types of entrances between those two. If you see a garden gate unlocked, would you "reasonably assume" that you can just walk in without being accused of trespassing - or just shot on the spot?

Re:So using this logic....

[someone300]

If I asked the doorknob if I could come in and it replied "Yes", I would actually accept it.

As it happens, I've never been given permission by a doorknob, though I was going to make our front door's lock grant entry based on the people standing infront of it. I suppose that's the same thing, and I didn't really consider that there'd be anything legally wrong with my computer granting house entry to someone.

Re:So using this logic....

[profplump]

Web servers are intended for the dissemination of information to third parties. Wi-fi gateways are basic infrastructure, and can be reasonably be considered intended for the use of authorized parties only, given most people are unlikely to want anonymous third parties using their network without permission.

First, I don't understand how you can say with a straight face that web servers indicate and intent to share and broadcasting gateways do not. For one thing, most web services specifically forbid all sorts of uses in their terms of use. For example: http://www.ostg.com/terms.htm. For another, many people assume that information they post on the web is private (they shouldn't, but they do) if it isn't linked in to a well-known web page.

Second, couldn't you make the same argument about not wanting anonymous third parties using email servers? I only want authorized people to email me, not Mexican pharmacy bots. But since I have a publicly accessible email address I'm likely to get some such email, whether I want it or not.

I don't support the "it's open so I have a right to use it" viewpoint, but there are reasonable technical and social measures that could be employed to indicate that you don't want to share your gateway. They could simply add a the WEP password "pasword". Or not broadcast the SSID. Or put up a terms-of-use page for the first port-80 request from a new MAC address. Or posted a sign outside that said "WiFi access for customers only". Or they could have walked out to his car and asked him to stop using their network.

If they had done any one of those things and he continued using the access point I'd have no trouble prosecuting him. But when people physically trespass, they must have bypassed reasonable security measures and/or be asked to leave before they've committed a crime, and I don't see the benefit of a stricter standard for access points.

Re:So using this logic....

[Lumpy]

This is sparta, I know the town well as I drive through on a regular basis. the local police are an utter joke. they only look to give tickets while they have a rampant youth vandalizing problem they refuse to deal with. The police there are known to be raging assholes. The cop certainly could have told him to never do it again and let him off with a warning but he CHOSE to nail this innocent guy.

It was the officers choice to be a raging asshole in this case, and that is how they act there. dont drive 1 mph over the speed limit (one part of sparta on a main through road has 3 signs you can see at once. 45,35,25 it is intentionally confusing so they can nail you for speeding tickets.) as they gladly give you a ticket and look over your car for more they can write.

Re:So using this logic....

[DamnStupidElf]

And using the term "configured to give public access" is framing. The correct term is "unconfigured" in the vast majority of gateways. It's no more "configured to give public access" than a door that's been left unlocked is likewise.

Putting an unconfigured neon "Open" and "Free Internet Here!" sign on your house in no way allows someone to claim that people are trespassing when they walk in looking for free Internet access. Remember, the access point tells everyone within range that it's open every second. That's like standing in your front yard next to your free Internet sign and shouting that everyone is welcome to use the Internet, and then calling the police when people come in. The problem is that people are buying "Free Internet Here!" and "Open" signs and plastering them to their house without a second thought.

Web servers are intended for the dissemination of information to third parties. Wi-fi gateways are basic infrastructure, and can be reasonably be considered intended for the use of authorized parties only, given most people are unlikely to want anonymous third parties using their network without permission.

The problem is, there is absolutely no precedent for assuming that wireless access points are a private network resource. There are far too many free and open access points whose purpose is explicitly that they be free and open that such a distinction would be foolish to make in general. Much better to define private networks as those with encryption or MAC filtering turned on. Remember, wireless networks operate in the *public* 2.4GHz spectrum which is free for all public use within some transmission power limits. Note that there are absolutely *no* laws against snooping or injecting audio into portable phones operating in the public spectrum. It would be silly to arrest someone for accidentally owning the same model of phone as their neighbor and breaking into their calls by mistake occasionally. This routinely happened before phones were built smart enough to do frequency hopping and basic authentication with their base station.

A front door, however, can be reasonably assumed whether locked or unlocked to be a boundary over which a visitor cannot cross without explicit permission. The mistake of many on the "Unlocked WAP means I'm allowed in" argument is to assume such a state of affairs does not exist, and that you can reasonably make assumptions about whether you're allowed to do something on the basis of whether it's easy or not.

Again, your argument discounts the fact that a fair number of wireless access points are intended for public use. There is no physically distinguishing factor to determine whether an access point is like the door to a private residence, the door to a private club (which is still a public place) or the door to a public business establishment. No way, that is, except the utterly trivial ability to set encryption, MAC filtering, or even a "PRIVATE xxxx" SSID. Basically, it's like posting a "Free Internet Access - Open for business!" sign on the front door of your house and complaining when people walk in looking for a computer terminal to use.

As always, there's a solution: just ask. If you're afraid to ask someone if they'd mind if you used their Internet connection via their WAP, you might want to ask yourself whether you really have their consent.

Who do you ask? It's not like wireless routers broadcast GPS coordinates and the owner's name and telephone number or anything. Even if you know approximately where the access point is, how do you find out who owns it so you can ask them? How do you know that the person you ask isn't just lying and saying you can use it? Without a physical presence, it is essentially impossible to establish actual ownership of a wireless router signal, or request permission to use it. That said, how are people supposed to use the real free wireless connections if they're threatened with going to jail if they accidentally connect to the wrong one? Soun

Inconsistant article

[JamesD_UK]

Something in the summary doesn't make sense. "Free WiFi" implies that this was a service provided by the coffee shop but the rest of the article reads as if it was simply an open wireless network that the coffee shop was using for their business. From reading the article it appears to be the later case and the man simply assumed that because the network was open the cafe was providing it for their customers.

Re:Inconsistant article

[morgan_greywolf]

No. This is what the coffee shop owner told a TV station, FTFA:

"I didn't know it was really illegal, either," she told the TV station. "If he would have come in (to the coffee shop), it would have been fine."

So it seems this service was provided by the coffee shop. IOW, in Michigan, it is a felony to sit outside a coffee shop or other establishment with "Free WiFi" without buying something.

"unauthorized use"?

[tedshultz]

"unauthorized use" sounds like a tricky term to me. Every day people need to guess if they are authorized to be somewhere or not (I assume I'm allowed in an unlocked store during business hours, I assume I would be unwelcome if I broke in at night). I usually use the assumption that people are willing to share their wifi if it is unsecured. That's exactly what I do at my home by leaving an old access point open outside my firewall. I realized that I'm taking on a little liability to let my neighbors use my wifi, but I figure the goodwill is worth the risk.

You're kidding, right?

[Gorshkov]

Ok - let me get this straight.

He didn't know he was breaking the law
The COP didn't know he was breaking the law
The STORE OWNER didn't know he was breaking the law

So how exactly did he wind up getting a $400 fine, community service, and a diversion sentence out of it?

Common sence tells me that there's nothing for him to "divert" - I suspect if you had just TOLD him he was breaking the law, he'd have said "oops - sorry - I won't do it again"

What a waste of resources.

Re:You're kidding, right?

[ronadams]

So... Kent County was prosecuting for something even the owner of the business didn't care about? From TFA: "This is the first time that we've actually charged it," Kent County Assistant Prosecutor Lynn Hopkins said, adding that "we'd been hoping to dodge this bullet for a while." I fly the BS flag. This "bullet" could have been easily dodged, but Kent County wants its free money.

Re:You're kidding, right?

[zappepcs]

This whole issue is starting to bother me greatly. Sure, if it wasn't an open AP, it would be stealing. If free Wi-Fi wasn't so common an average person might know better. Even in the case of it not being offered to customers, how are you supposed to know? That is tantamount to telling a police officer that you left a bag of $20 bills on a park bench yesterday, and when you went back to get it today it was gone. If you had locked it in the trunk of your car, that would be different. Lets make it more palatable; Say you left a bag of candy bars on a park bench where 100s of children play daily. When you go back the next day to retrieve it, it's gone. What would the police say? Naturally they would hide their laughter until you turn your back to them.

If public parks are paid for by citizens of that municipality, are people from out of town allowed to use them? Free means free. I was under the impression that if something is only free to customers as a marketing ploy, you have to do something to keep it from those who are not customers. How is this a crime? If a store offers free candy bars to the first 1000 shoppers on Saturday morning as a marketing ploy, have you committed a crime if you take one of the candy bars but don't buy anything? I think that we need to ensure that businesses advertise that they have either FREE Wi-Fi or Free-to-customers Wi-Fi to clear this up. Once it is posted (like no trespassing signs) there is no longer any question about whether it's a crime or not.

Re:You're kidding, right?

[Gorshkov]

Umm, sorry, ignorance is not an acceptable excuse for breaking the law. He either did or didn't.

You're right ... but that's also besides the point. You can also be charged for licking an ice cream cone on Sundays in some jurisdictions, thanks to laws that were passed in the 1800s ..... but how far do you think the local DA would get if he actually tried to prosecute it?

Here, we have a specific case where neither the perp, the cop, NOR the store owner were aware of the existence of the law - it seems to me that "justice" would have been much better served by just *informing* everybody about the law, so that it wouldn't happen again.

The point of law is NOT to prosecute people, or put them in jail - it's an agreed-upon set of rules that we agree to follow when we join a society, so that society can function smoothly. Prosecution - and subsequent punishments - are intended to be coercive measures to enforce compliance with these rules.

If ever there was a case of "This time, I'll let you off with a warning", this is it.

Re:You're kidding, right?

[Chris Burke]

I fly the BS flag. This "bullet" could have been easily dodged, but Kent County wants its free money.

Exactly. The GP called this a "waste of resources", but the only one who is out anything is the guy, for whom I guarantee the $400 is only the beginning of his expenses. He's probably also paying court fees, paying fees to whoever tracks his community service (probation officer, maybe, though TFA doesn't mention probation), and paying fees to enroll in whatever a "diversion program" is.

They may have actually been reluctant to prosecute cases like this before. But now that they have, and tasted the sweet green blood of a new revenue source, expect them to vigorously pursue this kind of case in the future.

Re:You're kidding, right?

[jfengel]

I want to know what office Kent County Assistant Prosecutor Lynn Hopkins is running for. This sounds like an EXCELLENT time for a little prosecutorial discretion. I can't help but think that she's got something in mind.

This is ridiculous

[tstubbendeck]

This is the same as if the guy was using the restroom without purchasing anything. While this may be considered rude by some it hardly qualifies as a crime and classifying it as a felony reeks of ignorance. If I were this guy I would be so frustarated I would probably spontaneously combust.

Re:This is ridiculous

[Chris Burke]

Yeah, maybe he should have realized that "free wi-fi" probably meant "free wi-fi if you come into the store and hopefully purchase something", but that's a distinction even the store owner didn't think was a matter of law. I mean, should he be charged with a crime for using the free parking spot, since it's pretty clear that the store only has the parking spot so people can park and come in the store?

Windows XP just connects...

[Docboy-J23]

If I recall my experiences using windows XP, doesn't it just automatically connect to any unsecured wireless connection that it finds? I would bet that most people don't even realize they're stealing somebody else's internet bandwidth, since chances are their OS isn't even showing a connect dialog by default.

Re:Windows XP just connects...

[Taimat]

Yes and no...... Before SP2, yes, XP would connect to ANYTHING it could find. After SP2, it warns you if you want to connect to an unsecured network - so it's needs some kind of response from the user first.... UNLESS.... you have SSIDs are the same. If you said "yes, connect" the the unsecured "linksys" SSID at home, and you go somewhere else with the same SSID and unsecured, you are connected automatically.

Damned if ya do....You know the rest.

Re:Windows XP just connects...

[just_another_sean]

Our company had a sales rep in Baltimore who worked for us for a week before we (IT) heard anything from him. He calls us one day and complains his internet connection isn't working, what's the deal? After questioning him about providers and settings and what not we figure out that he never signed up for any service, didn't know he needed to and was very confused when we told him he was using someone elses unsecured wireless. He literally had just turned on his Windows box the first day he got home, connected (automagically) to a neighbor's wireless and assumed that computers were supposed to do that. As if all PCs came with "free" internet, no configuration required.

Doesn't the provider have any responsibility?

[TripMaster Monkey]

It seems to me that blasting unsecured WiFi around is much like having a trampoline that is unsecured. When children come and jump on it without your permission, and injure themselves as a result, the owner is liable, since the trampoline is an "attractive nuisance".

If people don't want everyone on their WiFi, they should have to either secure it with a key or restrict it to the premises.

Re:Doesn't the provider have any responsibility?

[Mephistophocles]

Very good point though I think you could go farther than that - if there is a sign advertising the WiFi, wouldn't it have to explicitly state where you can or cannot be to use it (i.e., inside, outside on the patio, in the parking lot, etc). Also, what if you just come and sit on the patio and use it? How is that different from sitting in the parking lot? Shouldn't the "terms of access" on the sign explicitly state whether or not you have to purchase something from the shop in order to use it?

Either way I find it hard to believe that the guy could be charged with a felony for this unless the law states that "any access of any WiFi, regardless of location, without prior explicit consent of the owner (in writing or before witnesses, so that it may be presented to the court) is hereby considered a felony and may be prosecuted as such." If the law doesn't say that or something like it, I imagine there is a strong case for getting this guy off with nothing and probably for some juicy civil suits to follow.

This shouldn't be a crime

[JohnnyGTO]

If someone wants to offer a free exclusive service to customers it should be forced to take at least minimum steps to protect that offer. If they slapped WEP on it and the cops found this guy cracking it in the parking lot then charge him. Otherwise you could arrest me for sitting in the parking lot next to a concert enjoying the music!

Don't talk to cops!

[Anonymous Coward]

And if you do, always ask them questions if you can, try you hardest not to give them any answers. You are required to show them your ID if they ask. The magic words are "Officer, am I being detained?" If you aren't being detained, tell the officer you will now be on your way, and you have no further business with them. If you are not being detained or incarcerated, they have no authority to hold you against your will.

Re:Don't talk to cops!

[xappax]

You are required to show them your ID if they ask.

In the US, if you're driving a motor vehicle, you can be compelled to show your driver's license. In any other situation, however, you do not even have to carry ID, let alone show it. You can be compelled to identify yourself (for example, giving your name, DOB, and address) if you are being arrested or ticketed, but other than that you don't even have to give the cops any information.

Sheesh

[spamking]

If you don't want unauthorized people accessing your unsecured Wi-Fi network, then provide your customers with the access information on a receipt or something. If hotels can do it surely a coffee shop can figure it out.

However, Peterson won't be going to prison for piggybacking. Because he has no prior record, Peterson will have to pay a $400 fine, do 40 hours of community service and enroll in the county's diversion program.

What the heck is a "diversion program"?

This is silly

[eln]

When I was younger, I used to live in an apartment complex across the street from the local University's football stadium. When concerts were played at the stadium, I would sit out on the balcony and listen to the music. Maybe I should have been arrested for that, too.

If a coffee shop wants to limit its "free wifi" to paying customers only, there is plenty of technology out there to do that. Having worked for a company that sold wireless equipment to coffee shops, I can't believe that they would have been ignorant of this fact, as my company and several others probably would have been constantly bombarding them with sales people trying to sell them products that do exactly that.

If a coffee shop has big signs that say "Free WiFi!" and I am able to pick up a clear signal outside of the coffee shop and connect to it, I can't reasonably be expected to know that "free" to them means "to paying customers only" unless it was explicitly stated on those same signs. Even so, what if this guy picked up the signal from somewhere out of sight of the coffee shop? How could he reasonably be expected to know it was not intended as a public access point, unless the SID was something like "buycoffeeorGTFO"?

Keep your mouth shut.

[Frosty Piss]

Number one rule when dealing with cops: Never volunteer information that was not specifically asked for.

Question: "What are you doing" (cop probably thought he was looking at porn and masturbating in public) Answer: "I'm working on my computer. How's your day going?" Question: "Great. Have a nice day."

Re:Keep your mouth shut.

[Rob the Bold]

Number one rule when dealing with cops: Never volunteer information that was not specifically asked for.

Even better, just fondle your WWGD bracelet, ask yourself "what would Gonzales do?", and reply, in your best Steve Martin voice: "I forgot."

Re:Keep your mouth shut.

[xappax]

"You don't have to tell me what is in the bag unless I ask."

Though this cop was nicer than most, he was still lying. Even if he asks, you don't have to tell him what's in the bag at all, unless he has reason to believe that you're committing a crime that involves that bag. We have a basic constitutional protection against unreasonable search, and that includes having to give a verbal inventory of everything we're carrying.

And if he has reason to believe that you're carrying contraband in the bag (which he didn't in this case), you still don't have to tell him, because the 5th amendment says we can't be compelled to incriminate ourselves.

But to be fair, the cop may not have been lying - he may have genuinely believed that you were required to submit to an arbitrary search/interrogation simply because he asked - which is even scarier in my opinion!

Open access point==permission?

[D-Fens]

The fact that the access point was unsecured implies tacit permission. Technology exists to give temporary tokens to users in a coffee shop setting(one-time password on your coffee receipt). Discuss.

Fair or not, your responsibility...

[nick_davison]

it seems few in the village of Sparta, Mich., were aware that using an unsecured Wi-Fi connection without the owner's permission--a practice known as piggybacking--was a felony Whether it's something we see as fair or not, the law considers it your duty to familiarize yourself with it or accept the consequences of not being familiar with it.

I'd argue against it but, frankly, without it, Paris Hilton's, "Like, uh, I'm rich! My nail buffer said I could like totally keep driving with a suspended license. I, like, had no idea that was bad." would have been a valid defense.

Something doesn't add up here.

[ewhenn]

How can he be charged with a crime for using a FREE service. If I put a drinking fountain in front of my house and put a sign up that said "FREE water", how could I charge someone with criminal unauthorized use if they came up and took a drink? It kinda sounds like the guy got the shaft to me.

It's not clear from the article...

[PHAEDRU5]

Was the WiFi there to encourage people to come in to the cafe, or was it for private use?

If it was for private use, shouldn't it be the owner pressing charges? I mean, that's the person nominally injured. And it's not like this was, say, a murder.

Still, lesson learned.

Bravo!

[evil_aar0n]

> Milanowski didn't immediately cite or arrest Peterson, mostly because he wasn't certain a crime had been committed. "I had a feeling a law was being broken," the chief said. Milanowski did some research and found Michigan's "Fraudulent access to computers, computer systems, and computer networks" law, a felony punishable by five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

A job well done to chief Milanowski. Way to dig for a tool to hit the guy with. Instead of tracking down drug dealers, thieves or physically abusive spouses - or even setting speed traps - he's protecting the town against wi-fi users. I feel so much safer...

I wonder if it came into consideration the idea that a) using a freely offered wi-fi connection doesn't seem to cover the intent of the law as described; and b) the cafe offered the wi-fi connection _freely_. Whether it was offered specifically to customers or anyone in a radius - which isn't made clear - the cafe was offering and didn't even complain about the guy using it. They certainly could either post a sign saying, "Must be a customer to use this service," like restrooms, or enable a key that would be given out only to customers.

Again, Bravo! to chief Wiggum - oops, Milanowski - for going well out of his way to bust someone. You, sir, are a shining example of what law enforcement should be like - in a police state...

Re:Bravo!

[jack1323]

A police officer notices someone doing something slightly suspicious, so he approaches the individual and asks some questions. Not fully sure a law is being broken, he does his homework. After finding out that a law was indeed broken, he swears out a warrant for his arrest.

I have to say, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Now, I completely agree with your sentiments that the law is dumb and should be changed. But don't blame a police officer for doing his job.

Re:Bravo!

[Myopic]

Law enforcement is a hard one. Laws come from different people than the people who enforce them, and generally we want to defer to the laws themselves (The Rule Of Law), which is the same as deferring to the people who made the laws. For instance, we expect the President to obey the law, not just to act willy nilly. Same with cops: we hire them to enforce the law. We wouldn't want cops running around refusing to arrest people for cocaine possession just because the cops is a blowhead. We want cops to enforce the laws, and that is right and proper. If the cop is enforcing a bad law, the fault is with the law (...with the legislators ...with the voters), not with the cop.

Re:Bravo!

[rantingkitten]

One wonders what the hell the judge was smoking to agree that this guy's use of the access point was obtained by "fraudulent" means. Did he, like, sneak his way into range of it under cover of darkness, use social engineering to get the parking space, and spend hours cracking the nonexistent password?

Fifth amendment?

[KarmaMB84]

The officer extracted a confession out of a citizen without informing them of their rights. Can we now expect officers to start feigning ignorance about obscure laws only to claim later they looked it up and then use previous confessions to throw people in jail?

Re:Fifth amendment?

[grape jelly]

I'm amending point #1. :)

1. The fifth amendment doesn't guarantee you protection against self-incrimination. Rather, it allows you to legally deny requests from the authorities whose results may incriminate you (e.g., avoidance of obstruction of justice charges). You can have a right not to answer their questions, deliver evidence, etc., etc., etc, on the condition that it would demonstrate you guilty of *some* crime.

If we assume voluntary confessions inadmissible in court as a result of the fifth amendment, nobody would be able to plead guilty to a crime -- that constitutes self-incrimination. Similarly, criminals who turn themselves in would have to be turned away because by turning themselves in, they are incriminating themselves.

The officer asked the man, "What are you doing?" It was and still is fully within the man's right to say, "I with to use my fifth amendment right and not answer." However, the man unwittingly offered up what amounted to an admissible confession, and was thusly boned.

Felony == criminal

[Chris Burke]

Unauthorized computer access is a crime, as it should be. This particular instance, however, probably should not be. It wasn't just an unsecured access point, it was deliberately unsecured to provide free wi-fi, and even the store owner didn't think the guy had comitted a crime. He probably should have realized that "free wi-fi" meant "free if you come in to the store, and hopefully buy something". The penalty handed down by the judge it says is because he had no record, but I would bet it's also the judge realizing that he wasn't being malicious, he just made a mistake that didn't really cost anyone anything.

This is an example of why mandatory minimum sentences are bad. It's done to "get tough" on criminals, but all it does is force judges to "get stupid" and not be able to apply any judgement to cases like this one.

Re:Felony == criminal

[techmuse]

Even worse, the guy now has a felony conviction on his record, which will probably make it very hard for him to get many jobs, loans, or anything else where they do a background check on you. He's basically had his life ruined because he was using a free service that the coffee shop was willingly providing (and advertising!) as a free service for anyone who wanted it!

Re:Felony == criminal

[sangreal66]

Actually, that is not true.

From the original article:

He'll pay a $400 fine and do 40 hours of community service, but it will not go on his record. http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6546307

Re:Felony == criminal

[el americano]

Well the cop could've given this guy a break.

Milanowski, who eventually swore out a warrant for Peterson, doesn't believe Milanowski knew he was breaking the law. "In my opinion, probably not. Most people probably don't."

Where I grew up, the police would've just come over and said, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that. Don't let me see you down here again." Instead, this jerk writes up a warrant. I guess that "To protect, and to serve." idea is really an anachronism these days.

Re:Felony == criminal

[Chris Burke]

Where I grew up, the police would've just come over and said, "Hey, you shouldn't be doing that. Don't let me see you down here again." Instead, this jerk writes up a warrant. I guess that "To protect, and to serve." idea is really an anachronism these days.

Yeah, especially since the cop wasn't actually aware this was a crime, you'd think he just could have gave the guy a warning and let it drop. I don't think he even checked with the store owner to see if she cared. It does seem like quite the asshole move.

Cafe owner is an idiot

[sunderland56]

So, let me get this straight - all the cafe owner had to do was to say "that's okay, I don't mind people using my network from outside". That would make it an authorized use - and so the crime would disappear, and this poor innocent guy would have a clean record.

But he didn't. It would have cost him nothing, but he let a fellow citizen get convicted for nothing.

Boy, that really doesn't sound like good advertising to me....

Contact Info

[Anonymous Coward]

Sparta Police Department
Chief Andrew Milanowski
260 W. Division
Sparta, MI 49345
General Phone: 616-887-8716
Fax: 616-887-7681
Email: policechief@spartami.org

T Lynn Hopkins
Firm: Kent County Prosecuting Attorney
Address: 333 Monroe Ave NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2211
Phone: (616) 774-3577
Fax: (616) 336-3095

Re:Oh, please

[geekoid]

No, you broadcast over the public air waves, then anyone can listen in. Don't like it? too bad.
You can encrypt it, or in this case ask for a password.
Broadcasting my radio into your house doesn't mean it's a crime for you to listen to it. The fact that you need a reciever changes nothing.

Don't like it? don't broadcast.

Re:Cue the Slashdot chorus...

[Dunbal]

explaining how leaving your keys in the ignition and the doors unlocked is implicit permission to for them to take your car for a joyride.

      Your insurance company sure thinks it is. Ask them if they will pay out under these circumstances?

Laws and Mores

[drDugan]

This is yet another example of a serious, growing problem with the American mentality.

We can not legislate all aspects of human behavior. It simply won't work.

Healthy societies have both laws and mores to shape human behavior. Laws derive from a logical/thinking framework, and mores are primarily from an emotional/feeling framework. All people have the ability to use both thinking and feeling in making decisions about what is right or wrong. But in American society, and more generally in a capitalist mentality, laws and money interests have so completely dominated that people have forgotten about the mores.

Mores are like laws, but enforced by society feedback, typically emotional feedback. People frown at Bob if he acts like an ass, and he understands that he should stop acting like that, because Bob doesn't like it when people frown at him. That is because Bob is healthy and likes to have healthy happy people around him. Note, nowhere in here are we able to legislate that Bob "acting like an ass" is illegal in a logical way.

We can that the Bush administration as the PRIMARY promoter of this mentality: "If it is not illegal, than I can get away with it." As such shining examples leading the USA today, more and more people (like Enron) are saying, "Hell, why not me too?"

This problem will not stop unless and until people start giving strong emotional feedback (disapproval, and eventually ostracizing people) for bad behavior.

Re:...eh?

[Lord Bitman]

To abuse the very concept of metaphor:
This is similar to a shop-owner buying a fancy new LED sign that has the options of "Open", "Closed", and "Everything in the store is free to take, no questions asked". The shop-owner plugs in the sign, but doesn't bother checking to see what it's set at.

I don't know if that makes an argument /for/ or /against/ what is being talked about, but it is definitely a poor metaphor.

Re:Oh, please

[(A)*(B)!0_-]

The FCC has dictated that picking up a transmission like that is 100% legal.

being without surveilance != up for grabs

[DirtyFly]

when will people understand that open AP is not the same as a Public AP, a car with open doors and key in the ignition is not a car for anyone to use.
Still I find the punishment too harsh ...

Let's just say for arguments sake...

[jmackler]

What if I stood on the public street outside a house at night that didn't have shades on the windows, using the light from the house to read a book. Would that be a crime? If the owner of the utility, the light or the network, wanted to avoid sharing the network, they could take some very simple steps to avoid sharing. If they don't take those simple steps, then there's implied consent, in my mind. It may be rude to use a cafe's connection without shopping there, and it may be rude to use your neighbor's open wifi, but I just can't believe it's illegal.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Lurker187]

Actually, as analogies go, the light from your neighbor's window (or music from their stereo) is a perfect example of why this is NOT the same as accessing someone else's Wi-fi connection. If you cannot be legally prevented from reading a book or sitting in a spot where you are using your neighbor's light or listening to their music, then you have a right to use those resources, as you cannot "turn them off" or otherwise avoid them, and it does not impact your neighbor any more than if you could not hear their music or read by their light.

However, piggybacking is different and philosophically wrong for two reasons. First, Wi-fi use DOES impact other users, as bandwidth is finite and allowed users may theoretically wind up having diminished use of the service due to piggybacking. But more importantly, you CANNOT just sit in a parking lot and use Wi-fi without deciding to ACTIVELY log on to the access point. While you may have a right to sit in the parking lot and use your computer, you are actively deciding to use someone else's resources when you log on, and doing so certainly is not unavoidable while using your laptop in that parking lot.

I'm not saying I like the law, because if they're too dumb to require a login, they will have issues bigger than this fellow who was quite up-front about what he was doing. But the previous analogy is a good example of why it is not quite as harmless as it seems.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[XxtraLarGe]

However, piggybacking is different and philosophically wrong.... I agree that stealing bandwidth is wrong, the punishment certainly does not fit the crime. This type of thing should be a civil infraction, not a felony. People who steal actual physical goods don't even have to face the kinds of penalties this guy potentially could have. When there's a complete disconnect between the severity of punishment and common sense, it causes contempt for the law.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[justinlindh]

But more importantly, you CANNOT just sit in a parking lot and use Wi-fi without deciding to ACTIVELY log on to the access point.
Don't some setups automatically find the nearest unsecured access point and connect to it, without intervention from the user? What if I were to open my laptop in an unfamiliar area, only to have it automatically connect to an access point before I was able to halt the connection? Do we place the blame on the hardware/software maker for configuring their device to do this by default, or the user for not disabling it?

Most of the access points at the coffee shops around here don't mention anything of "Free Wi-Fi access with purchase!". While it could be argued that the "with purchase" is implied in those situations, I think it could be easily argued in a court that since there was no specific mention of it, patronage of the establishment was not required.

IMHO, if an access point is unsecured and available, it should be fair game for public use without any implied fine print.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Wansu]

  I agree that stealing bandwidth is wrong, the punishment certainly does not fit the crime. This type of thing should be a civil infraction, not a felony. People who steal actual physical goods don't even have to face the kinds of penalties this guy potentially could have. When there's a complete disconnect between the severity of punishment and common sense, it causes contempt for the law.

Amen. All kinds of minor offenses have been trumped up into felony status by legislators gone wild. They seem to be engaged in zero-tolerance one-up-manship grandstanding as being tough on crime.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[ajs]

I'd agree with you all except for one thing: the wireless access can be closed off with the simple application of low-grade encryption. I can absolutely see a law going through that says that subverting WEP in order to gain access to someone else's network is unlawful, but to say that something many computers do automatically (connect to the strongest unsecured WiFi) is unlawful puts a burden on the potential "criminal" to determine who owns the connection and what their provisioning scheme is. The burden should be on the owner to either provide a polite "do not disturb" (WEP) or a redirection scheme like many use to restrict access until the user has visited the owner's Web site and signed up / accepted the terms of use. Anything else is highly unreasonable, as it requires me to know who the owners of all of my local WiFi hotspots are and what their terms of use might be.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Babbster]

While making it a felony is probably overdoing it, making it a civil issue would go too far in the other direction. Doing so would put the onus of enforcement on the owners of the WiFi and would put them in the position of a) identifying the people "stealing" their bandwidth and b) going to even more trouble by first attempting to quantify their real damages (maybe there were none?) and then taking those people to court. Making the violation a misdemeanor would be sufficient to ensure that the WiFi piggybackers know that there's a penalty attached to such misuse, which I think is reasonable since people like the owner of this coffee shop are trying to offer a free service to their customers - something which the public usually applauds.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Ajehals]

OK,

What about if someone creates a website to distribute pictures to their friends, but doesn't protect it in any way. Should it be an offence for someone to access that site as explicit permission has not been granted?

What about if someone creates a site about a polarising political viewpoint and places a banner stating that anyone opposed to that viewpoint is not permitted to view the site. Should accessing that if you have a differing view be an offence?

Lets take it one step further and assume that the individual who owns the first site pays for data transfer on a per Mb rate, if an undesirable person views the site could they be deemed as having stolen whatever the monetary value is of the data transfer they used?

If the above is deemed as true then, even if no fee is calculated on the transfer of data, surely simply making that bandwidth unavailable to other legitimate users would be sufficient for a prosecution?

If an individual accesses these sites without consent (other than that implied by the existence of the sites) should they be held liable?. I don't think so.

Wi-fi and web sites are comparable simply because they are both technological in nature, both require one person or organisation to acquire a service, and then provide information using that service in an indiscriminate manner analogous to broadcast. Both require a concious effort to access (either typing an address / clicking a link or selecting a network to use), and yet often neither explicitly grants nor denies permission to do so. Lastly, and most importantly both can be configured so that casual access is not easily possible.

In short, whilst it is not possible to secure light and prevent others from accessing it without making it totally unavailable, it is possible to secure an access point or a web site so that it is still available but not usable without further action.

The onus to protect against unauthorised access should be on the providers of services that are broadcast indiscriminately. Where protection is in place and is then broken, the responsibility lies with the person having broken it. However deciding what is adequate protection is another matter and outside of the scope of this comment. :)

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[letxa2000]

Doing so would put the onus of enforcement on the owners of the WiFi and would put them in the position of a) identifying the people "stealing" their bandwidth... b) going to even more trouble by first attempting to quantify their real damages

Good. If the offense is so trivial that it's not even worth identifying the people stealing the bandwidth, it's pretty clear it's not important enough to worry about to the owner--so why should law enforcement?

This is even more silly because the user wasn't circumventing security or illegally accessing a secured, for-pay access point. He was utilizing an intentionally open AP that was put there specifically for people to use for free. Granted, the idea is you come in for coffee, but if the coffee shop didn't even know it was illegal and apparently didn't notice or care, then why should law enforcement take any action?

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Omestes]

But more importantly, you CANNOT just sit in a parking lot and use Wi-fi without deciding to ACTIVELY log on to the access point.

Not necessarily true. With my old iBook it would just autodiscover, and login to open wifi networks, without my help, or any other conscious action by me. Does this then make mac owners less culpable than others? I doubt it.

I don't understand how it could be a felony, if you leave your wifi open, people will use it. It takes all of 2 seconds to secure it. I'm also not going to play with silly analogies, since I really think the "if you left your door unlocked..." analogy is false. If there is any law involved in this, it should be civil. If this coffee shop only wants paying customers to use their access, then she should use some form of "ticket" solution. A coffee shop near my old college did this, when you purchased something they gave you an access number good for about an hour of internet use, this kept you buying things as long as you wanted to use access, and also barred people from "piggybacking".

Residential access is tougher, though a simple password is still the best thing to do. In college, also, I knew several people whose only form of access was through some unknown "lender". I never really had a problem with this, but then again I lean towards socialism. If they didn't want to have their access used, then they would have secured it. This is another issue, what if I DO want people to use it, is it still illegal for them to do so? I keep my wifi open, as long as it doesn't harm me, but are the people using it still illegal? I don't give implicit consent, just like people don't give implicit denial.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Ed_Pinkley]

Looks like either 1) The author was exagerating, 2) There are other circumstances not in the article or 3) Somehow they figure he stole more than $1,000 worth of wireless service.

Here is a link to the law

Here is an excerpt. Note it says this is a misdemeanor unless certain things are met. (IANAL)

(1) A person who violates section 4 is guilty of a crime as follows:
(a) If the violation involves an aggregate amount of less than $200.00, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 93 days or a fine of not more than $500.00 or 3 times the aggregate amount, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine.

(b) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $2,000.00 or 3 times the aggregate amount, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine:

(i) The violation involves an aggregate amount of $200.00 or more but less than $1,000.00.

(ii) The person violates this act and has a prior conviction.

(c) If any of the following apply, the person is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 5 years or a fine of not more than $10,000.00 or 3 times the aggregate amount, whichever is greater, or both imprisonment and a fine:

(i) The violation involves an aggregate amount of $1,000.00 or more but less than $20,000.00.
(ii) The person has 2 prior convictions.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[surprise_audit]

making it a civil issue would go too far in the other direction. Doing so would put the onus of enforcement on the owners of the WiFi

And when the WiFi owner doesn't realy care much, why was this even pursued at all?? Waste of the court's time, I think. From TFA:

Indeed, neither did Donna May, the owner of the Union Street Cafe. "I didn't know it was really illegal, either," she told the TV station. "If he would have come in (to the coffee shop), it would have been fine."

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[PunXX0r]

Ugh!! Please!

There is more than simple implied-consent on the part of the WAP administrator. The fact is that they are running a DHCP server on that WAP, and requiring no authentication for anyone to connect. I turn on my wireless card, and **REQUEST** an IP, and their WAP **CONSENTS** and gives me one. It is a completely consensual relationship between the WAP administrator and the client. If they wanted to limit who could access their WAP, there are many ways to make that happen - most of which would not be offensive to the paying customers of the cafe.

I am willing to bet that they have a sign in their cafe window which reads "Free WiFi" not stipulating the purchase of a coffee for access.

Now, I will admit that the guy who is the subject of this ridiculous criminal proceeding is guilty of bad taste... he is an ass, in fact, for knowingly using something for free that implicitly costs money. He is not, however, a criminal, because he did not commit criminal trespass for physical access to the network (they beamed it into his car), nor did he spoof an IP to use the network that was being publicly broadcast to his vehicle - the network managers OFFERED him an address.

It is good that there is no law against being an ass, as we would have more people serving time than we currently do. Note, however, that being an ass usually pays dividends in personal suffering, so it all works out in the end. :)

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[Romancer]

The completely missed issue:

What responsibility does the wifi owner have in all this?
At what point do I have to take care of his network and specifically avoid it?

If a laptop has been connected to the wireless network "Linksys" with no WEP before and is set to automatically connect to it, and a coffee shop has no wep enabled and the same SSID then a laptop will automatically connect to it! I would have to activly stop my laptop from connecting to it. Now this is either entrapment or criminal negligence. Since I would face penalties from the act.

It's a simple process to give out a key at the register on the reciepts each day, or set up a basic gateway with a password. You could even turn off the SSID broadcast function and have people type it in manually.

These places try and make as easy as possible for people to access their network and then have a problem when their efforts result in people using the network.

Take some responsibility. The law shouldn't protect those too ignorant of their own actions from facing the consequences of those actions. After all, that's why the man in the car had to pay a fine and do community service!

Lawmakers need to get a clue, hold people accountable, and hold themselves to the same standard while they're at it! Quit lagging behind the curve, we're supposed to be a great nation and we constantly act like a bunch of neanderthals.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[elyk]

What people seem to be ignorning is that there are a lot of places that offer free wifi without any conditions of who can and cannot use it. It would not be reasonable to require someone, before connecting to a signal, to triangulate on it (okay, slight exaggeration0, locate the source, and ensure that they have permission to use it. It's for this reason that we have easy-to-configure wireless encryption technologies. If they want to prevent people from using it without paying, they can do what some places by me do: encrypt the network, then have the key posted next to the cash register or give it out with the receipt. If you're really paranoid, you could change it daily. But my feeling is that if the network is open, it's fair game.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[putaro]

Well, one problem with WI-FI is that you can be on someone else's network without even knowing.

I installed WI-FI back in 2000 in my house in Tokyo. I didn't bother setting up WEP. One day I was checking my server logs and I saw that someone was ssh'ing in, as me, from an unfamiliar IP address. After a bit of frantic security work I looked at the IP numbers a little more closely and then checked my laptop. The IP number was me! One of my neighbors had set up WI-FI themselves and from certain areas of the house their network was picked up in preference to my own.

So, by your analogy, this is like me wandering into my neighbor's house by accident, sitting down and watching their TV and having NO CLUE I'm in the wrong house and then getting arrested for trespassing.

These days I often see multiple WI-FI networks available anywhere I go. If I go to a coffee shop that has free WI-FI access I might wind up connected not to their network but to their next door neighbor's network, making me, technically, a felon.

The judge should have thrown the court out of case, given genius boy a lecture on ethics (like, go buy some coffee the next time you want to use the free WI-FI) and the prosecutor a long lecture on wasting the court's time.

Re:Let's just say for arguments sake...

[sulimma]

There also is another issue. It makes a big difference whether the sign outside the shop reads "Free WiFi", "Free WiFi with each purchase" or "Free Wifi inside". In the first case anyone passing buy can understand it the way that the Wifi is a free givaway like balloons with ads on them. The seconds case still leave it open how long after a purchase the access is authorized. He might have ordered there sometime. I don't know about the US, but in germany if the terms of a contract were formulated by one party alone, anything that can be interpreted in multiple ways must be interpreted in the way that is beneficial for the other party.

Fore what it's worth...

[daveschroeder]

...the sign in their window says "FREE WI-FI (Customers only)", aside from issues of whether the access point should be open or not, and aside from arguments about whether a person using such an access point could under all circumstances be expected to know where it's coming from. (And yes, I realize that could have been added later, but this is in response to people who seemed to think there was no indication.)

More info in a video story here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3329712576 628229428

There is an open access point here at a local coffee shop entitled "[Name of shop] - NOT FREE", and the reason why the owner chooses to leave it open is because of problems the occasional customer has with various security mechanisms/passwords that customers simply don't have when he leaves it open. So, he's made his choice, and I doubt whether he'd really care if someone else used it, but at the same time, it is intended for customer use only.

It's supposed to be the *justice* system

[internic]

Umm, sorry, ignorance is not an acceptable excuse for breaking the law. He either did or didn't.

I think that you, like many other people, misunderstand this precept. The idea is that ignorance of the law cannot be considered a valid legal defense, basically because it would be absurd to have to prove that someone knew the law in question.

The justice system is supposed to be about justice, however, and while a person's ignorance is not a legal defense, it is something that should be taken into consideration when deciding whether it is just to punish them. If someone does not know the law, it is reasonable for them to think their action is legal, and no significant harm is done, then justice is NOT served by prosecuting them. They intended no harm. They are not a threat to society. Society will be harmed more by using the resources to prosecute them than it will be aided by the prosecution. It is completely foolish to prosecute someone when simply telling them not to do it will be just as effective, and such needless prosecution is befitting of a police state not a free society.

People who enforce the law are supposed to do so judiciously. They are not supposed to blindly apply the letter of the law but rather they are supposed to use their human judgement to decide what is the just application of the law. And people in law enforcement and the justice system do this all the time. Cops let people off with a written warning (or sometimes just a verbal warning). DAs elect not to prosecute a person (or to give them a generous plea deal) if prosecution under the stautory penalty would be unjust. This is a vital part of their job. Both the cop and the county attorneys failed in doing their job in this case.

Not the Whole Story

[Anonymous Coward]

The Grand Rapids Press reported this story yesterday with an important detail that's conspicuously been omitted here. A quote from the article:

"Peterson was receiving a service, Internet access, for which the cafe charges a fee to those who don't order anything."

If it were truly free for anyone, I would have a huge problem with this whole situation. However, because the cafe usually charges a fee if nothing is ordered Peterson's use of the Wi-Fi essentially means he stole the service.

Re:...eh?

[carpecerevisi]

Hmm, you may actually have a point. From what little contract law I have studied, and the even smaller amount I remember, I believe that comes under "not having the authority to make the contract on someone's behalf". It goes something like the following:

A owns a house. B breaks in while A is on holiday. B puts a sign on the front saying "Everything inside is free for the taking". C walks in and grabs the TV

C cannot *keep* the TV, because B didn't have the right to make the contract. However, C is *not* a thief (unless the TV is not returned) because C was lead to believe that his actions were ok.

Here, the Coffee shop owner is A, "the default wireless settings"/"the wireless manufacturer" is B, and C is the guy in his car checking his emails. So, ok, a "The coffee shop fucked up, and would like you to pay $10 of traffic charges" would seem reasonable.

However, even then, there are arguments (that I believe in), that say "If you are led to believe that *a service* is free" (note, not a TV, but a service, where, if told it is free, you can justifiably believe that making use of it where you wouldn't otherwise), and find out otherwise, then you shouldn't be liable for charges. This basically stops excessive "surprise charges", e.g. if C'd justifiably believed (as he seemingly had) that the connection was *free*, and then downloaded (slowly, over a long period of time) what, if charged per byte, was a MASSIVE sum, that he wouldn't have had he known he'd have to pay per byte.

Re:This SHOULD be illegal...

[lena_10326]

Do you honestly believe this coffee shop wants this guy to be a criminal?

Sparta...

[quonsar]

... is a 10 minute drive from here. It's a dipshit little village with a dipshit little village police dept. The locals refer to the cops as "Andy and Barney". When I read this last night in the paper I said "what a dipshit place."

What If...

[woolio]

It's no different than if the shop had an electrical outlet on the wall outside and he was plugging in his extension cord to take power back to his place. The shop was providing the wi-fi as a service for customers along with the table, the chairs, the warm room, and the overhead lights. He was not a customer so he was not entitled to use the wi-fi. Just because he could, doesn't mean he had a right to it.

Let's say you are meeting a friend at a coffee shop. You walk into a coffee shop, open up your laptop, plug it into the wall and check your email. You see a late email from your friend that he isn't going to be able to make it. So you pack your things up and walk out the door. You did not buy anything because your friend did not show and thus you had no purpose in staying.

Did you commit a felony? You have used the shop's electricity, indoor space, and internet access without permission. (The store owner does not permit non-customers to use the facilities). Did your actions deserve that you be automatically excluded from most (well paying) jobs? There is a dangerously fine line between this situtation and the one described in the article. (e.g. let's say you meet your friend weekly for years and he doesn't show half the time).

What exactly defines a "customer"? It is one who buys goods,services -- but WHEN??? If I buy coffee daily in January, February, and March, does this make me a "customer" at any point in April?

What if you live behind the shop? You walk in buy a coffee, and return home where you make use of the free WiFi provided by the shop. How long does that cup of coffee entitle you to use the WiFi from the shop? [A cup of coffee per day could be cheaper than paying for high-speed internet at home]

Looks like Sparta,MI only has population of 4,159. Looks like the police chief coerced the shop owner into believing what happened was wrong. I think the chief had a personal dislike for the "offender" or wanted to drum up some funds for a raise^H^H^H^H^H^H^ the police department.

ignorance of the law...

[JimBobJoe]

I think that you, like many other people, misunderstand this precept. The idea is that ignorance of the law cannot be considered a valid legal defense, basically because it would be absurd to have to prove that someone knew the law in question.

It actually goes deeper than this.

The legal concept of Ignorantia juris non excusat is that you should be not be able to escape liability for a law that you should have reasonably known.

So for everyone, obvious crimes against people and property do not necessarily require strict knowledge. Also considered reasonable are the laws which cover hot-dog vending kiosks...if you should be a hot dog vending kiosk owner. If you are engaged in a particular business, there would be the reasonable assumption that you would know the laws that might cover that business.

One area where ignorance of the law can be an excuse? A lot of tax law. It's so terribly complex that people can't be expected to know and understand all of it.

Remember when "Felony" meant something?

[Anonymous Coward]

Now we just slap people with felony charges to show how seriously we take the new "crime of the week." You're gonna get beat up real quick in prison if all you've done is check email in a parking lot.

Re:What if your computer connects to the wrong wif

[Maximum Prophet]

Aren't there "cell" phones that will use a public wifi if they can find it? Would these devices even display a spash page if it were available?

Read the Fine Print

[Khammurabi]

He was not a customer so he was not entitled to use the wi-fi.

It depends. If the advertisement in the shop was simply "Free WiFi", any decent lawyer could argue that he was granted permission to use it. If the ad instead read "Free WiFi* (some restrictions may apply)", I'd say it's likely he did not have permission, as the restrictions were likely that the person needed to be a customer or in the establishment.

In the parent's example, if the coffee shop was advertising "Free Electricity", I'd say walking in with a extension cord and plugging in would be legal. However, I would imagine that the owner would quickly amend the ad to limit it to customers.

As it stands right now, the guy could probably sue the coffee shop for false advertising. I'd find it difficult to believe that the Wi-Fi can truly be considered "free" when a person who used the "free" service ends up paying fines and gets charged with a felony. Any ambulance chaser worth his salt would be lining up to sue the coffee shop over this one.

So yes, I'd say the Chief of Police did a bang up job here. A person with no criminal intent or awareness of wrongdoing got charged, and the likelihood of the coffee shop getting sued out of business just went through the roof. Good job, Wiggum.

Judges are ignorant, film at 11

[jmorris42]

> and no a judge wouldn't

Only because judges are generally illiterate on things tech. DHCP is exactly a request to be assigned network resources. Your workstation/laptop sends out a request containing a globally unique identifier (MAC addr) and the server is free to permit or deny access based on it. That dhcp server is under your control and making decisions based on a policy you gave it, thus it is acting on authority you delegated unto it. By default most routers will hand out an address to anyone who asks for one, which implies a GRANT ANY policy. However almost all DHCP servers offer more restrictive options, even those found in consumer electronics class wireless routers.

Perhaps we need a warning label on the boxes:

"Warning, by default this product will grant access to anyone within it's range who asks. If this is NOT what you want please follow the directions to change it's policy."

Re:Judges are ignorant, film at 11

[orclevegam]

There is no inexpensive and hassle-free way to selectively grant and deny based on whether you are a customer. Ok, here's one for you, why not print the WPA (or if you must, WEP) on the customers receipt with a disclaimer that the service may only be used by paying customers. Then the only ones that have access are those that have read the disclaimer are have been informed of the access requirements. Can't get much cheaper than a couple lines on the receipt.

But, maybe he didn't break the law.

[u8i9o0]

I have issue with the charge itself, "Unauthorized use of computer access".

Here's the law text (I'll highlight the relevant portions):

752.795 Prohibited conduct.
Sec. 5.
A person shall not intentionally and without authorization or by exceeding valid authorization do any of the following:
(a) Access or cause access to be made to a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network to acquire, alter, damage, delete, or destroy property or otherwise use the service of a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network.

(b) Insert or attach or knowingly create the opportunity for an unknowing and unwanted insertion or attachment of a set of instructions or a computer program into a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network, that is intended to acquire, alter, damage, delete, disrupt, or destroy property or otherwise use the services of a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network. This subdivision does not prohibit conduct protected under section 5 of article I of the state constitution of 1963 or under the first amendment of the constitution of the United States.

Dissecting the text:

A person shall not intentionally and without authorization or by exceeding valid authorization do any of the following:

The act was intentional, but a successful logon to the access point is, by technical definition, authorization. If there was no password, then there is no unauthorized use. Additionally, if there was no username, there was no opportunity for impersonation (impersonation would be a legal manner to be without authorization).

On the second part, he may have exceeded authorization. My question: did the shop present any TOS and if so, did it forbid his manner of usage or only allow usage within the shop? If not, did they confront and object to his usage? If they did none of this, then he did not exceed authorization and the law was not broken.

(a) Access or cause access to be made to a ... computer network to acquire ... or otherwise use the service of a ... computer network.

Exceed authorization to use the service and you break the law.

(b) ... knowingly create the opportunity for an unknowing and unwanted insertion ... into a ... computer network, that is intended to acquire ... or otherwise use the services of a ... computer network. This subdivision does not prohibit conduct protected under section 5 of article I of the state constitution of 1963 or under the first amendment of the constitution of the United States.

Yes, the shop was unknowing. The question is: was the shop also unwanting? How would a user know if their insertion was unwanted? This again assumes a TOS notice.

It may be that he did not do anything unlawful and was just poorly defended. This all depends on the existence of a TOS notice (since I assume the access point had no password).

And, of course, the obligatory: IANAL.

Re:Stop lying

[DavidTC]

And the most important point, which you should take to heart, is that you didn't even CONSIDER that possibility that the cop wasn't a rights trouncing, citizen abusing asshole, even though such individuals are BY FAR the exception. Most cops are regular guys, but your overwhelming paranoia clouds your ability to see that.

Only one out of twenty of our airline pilots is drunken on duty, and your demands to speak to the pilot before the flight is extreme paranoia.

Considering that it's the rights trouncing, citizen abusing asshole that hassle people for no reason to start with, I think a little paranoia is well justified when dealing with police.

Re:Stop lying

[xappax]

"feel free to disregard all reasoned arguments I present :)"

I did, even before you admitted you were ignorant.

Ok, ok, I get it - IHBT IHL HAND. But it is an interesting discussion, so on the off chance that I'm not the only one legitimately participating in it:

The point which you dodged is that there are several perfectly good reasons that the cop did what he did

I'm really trying here, but I can't think of too many reasons a cop would say "You don't have to tell me what's in the bag, unless I ask": Either he accidentally misrepresented the law, or he deliberately misrepresented the law. If there are more possibilities than that, please tell me specifically what they are.

rights trouncing, citizen abusing asshole[s]... are BY FAR the exception. Most cops are regular guys

Most cops are regular guys. And I'm not so aloof as to claim that I or most people I know wouldn't act the way cops do if we were put in uniforms, given guns and authority, and given a simultaneously boring, frustrating and fairly scary job. Because there is a large, very well respected body of study that shows that when you take ordinary people from all walks of life and put them in those kind of cop-like roles, we very frequently begin exhibiting aggressive, abusive behavior.

The Stanford Prison Experiment is the most dramatic demonstration of this, and it and the Milgram Experiment form the basis of a lot of modern study of the psychological effects of authority.

So yes, I have a certain amount of sympathy for the situation "ordinary guy" cops find themselves in, but there's no doubt that these ordinary guys do end up violating people's rights and abusing their authority fairly consistently, and it doesn't make it "OK" just because they're ordinary guys. To demonstrate that it's not just a few "bad apples" abusing their authority, here's an experiment you can try at home (or in your hometown):

- Find a cop who's arresting, ticketing, searching, or otherwise hassling a stranger.

- Approach the scene and openly observe the interaction. Allow yourself to be obviously seen recording information like the officer's license plate number, badge number, and description. Take pictures openly if you have a camera. IMPORTANT: Keep a generous distance so as not to interfere in any way.

- Don't speak to or interact with anyone on the scene, except (optional) when the officer has a moment, announce yourself so you don't arouse suspicion. Say something along the lines of "Officer, my name is [your name] and I'll just be acting as an observer of this encounter."

- Wait for the officer to ask you to move along. Politely reiterate that you're just observing, and have no desire to interfere.

- Wait for the officer to order you to move along. Politely reiterate that you're just observing, and have no desire to interfere.

- Wait for the officer to attempt to interrogate you or get you to present ID. Politely reiterate that you're just observing, and have no desire to interfere.

- Wait for the officer to threaten you with arrest and/or intimidate you further. Politely reiterate that you're just observing, and have no desire to interfere.

- (optional) Wait for the officer to either give up, conclude their original encounter, and move on, or actually follow through and arrest you.

Not all police will react according to these instructions, but easily over half of them will. Much of the rest of the time (usually when it's just a stop-and-search, or random questioning, not an actual arrest) the cops will stop unusually quickly and move on, to avoid further observation. I and people I know have performed this test many times with cops in many different cities and towns, and the response is strikingly uniform (no pun intended