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Jack Thompson Sues Microsoft

An anonymous reader writes to mention that Jack Thompson, in his latest bout of zealotry, has set his sights on Microsoft for their recent release of Halo 3. GameAlmighty has posted the letter to Bill Gates. "Here's the deal, Mr. Gates: Either Microsoft undertakes dramatic, real steps, through its marketing, wholesale, and retail operations to assure that Halo 3 is not sold, via the Internet and in stores, directly to anyone under 17, or I shall proceed to make sure that Microsoft is held to that standard by appropriate legal means. I have done that before successfully as to Best Buy, and I shall do so again as to Microsoft and all retailers of Halo 3."

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  1. May fools? by EmperorKagato · · Score: 5, Funny

    April fools was last month.

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    1. Re:May fools? by icepick72 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I envy someone who can get so singularly focused on one topic. I think the guy's going batshit -- or should I say overreacting -- but I envy that quality nonetheless. How much meaningful work could get accomplished with such focused energy. You know he might just accomplish an end to his means because of it.

    2. Re:May fools? by jcr · · Score: 5, Funny

      I envy someone who can get so singularly focused on one topic.

      You envy insanity?

      -jcr

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    3. Re:May fools? by bobo+mahoney · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wouldn't Jack Thompson say that was caused by playing too many violent video games?

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    4. Re:May fools? by wframe9109 · · Score: 5, Funny
      You know who he reminds me of?

      The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you!

    5. Re:May fools? by epee1221 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, whoever loses, we all win!

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    6. Re:May fools? by vimh42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      April fools was last month.

      There are fools every month.

    7. Re:May fools? by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But his energy isn't focused. He attacks the wrong targets. He's not starting a PR compaign to make parents aware of ratings. He isn't threatening retailers with boycotts for selling mature games to children. He's suing a company who has no control over the situation, and no legal responsibility. That's not focused energy. It's the kind of random misdirected energy I expect from a crack addict.

    8. Re:May fools? by Short+Circuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      You envy insanity? He should. Some of us enjoy every minute of it.
    9. Re:May fools? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a friend who has on her list of life goals: "Get addicted to heroin" because "I just really want to know what it's like to have that kind of singular motivation".

      Heh

    10. Re:May fools? by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I suspect the point is coming when Thompson is going to start feeling some very real consequences of constantly wasting the time of the court. Either he is indeed a complete lunatic, or he's an addicted publicity hound. In either case, the least that should start happening is that he needs to have all the legal costs bounced back on him.

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    11. Re:May fools? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      he's already been run out of one court for his antics... so yes, the courts are tired of this.

      on a side note, I don't think he'd have a chance in hell against Microsoft's lawyers. Halo is the wrong game to attack anyway. Sure it's violent, but it's fantasy violence a la Aliens or Starship Troopers against not to scary monsters. It's not even the horror genre like Doom with people turned to zombies and demonic undertones... it's strictly man versus alien. And occasionally alien versus people. It's not violence depicted against PEOPLE for sport like GTA. otherwise he ought to be out there protesting Forest Gump or Pearl Harbor for depictions of people really getting shot at and loosing limbs. Personally what I've seen of Halo 2 makes it barely PG-13.. mostly for the language and occasional gratituious monster kills or foul language to bump up the ESRP so tweens will want it for being "grown up".

    12. Re:May fools? by BakaHoushi · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think that's a poor analogy. When Arthur finished the Black Knight, he had a torso and a head left.

      Jack Thompson picking on Microsoft? A better fight analogy would be a paralyzed Chihuahua versus a steamroller.

    13. Re:May fools? by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree with your general idea, but Microsoft has more control over Halo 3 than any company on the planet. Microsoft *could* decide not to release Halo 3. Likely? Of course not. Could Microsoft ensure Halo 3 never hit the stores? They're the ones to go after if you honestly believe the courts would side in his favour.

      But lets be frank. Hes not trying to stop the sale of Halo 3. Hes generating 'awareness'. Hes not trying to prevent violent games from reaching children. Hes trying to rid the world of violent games. Period. When he suggests that GTA is a 'murder simulator', I dont think hes saying that the ratings system doesn't work, I think hes saying that nobody would suffer from alcohol abuse if the world stopped creating alcohol. Hes a modern day prohibitionist; considering that prohibition really did exist at some point in time, its not all that nuts to suggest that he probably has more than a few financial backers. Hes just pretty shameless with his opportunism. You really ought to give more credance to your enemy; he may be really misguided, but you have to have at least some reluctant admiration for his tenacity.

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    14. Re:May fools? by BakaHoushi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Respect him for his tenacity? If I watched a man ram his head a thousand times into a skyscraper in order to knock it down and kill everyone inside, I'm not going to admire his tenacity, I'm going to call him a fruitcake with a death wish.

      The only difference is the fruitcake ramming his head into a brick wall has a slightly higher chance of surviving than the fruitcake trying to sue Microsoft.

    15. Re:May fools? by Evilest+Doer · · Score: 3, Funny
      Very true. In fact, so true I think your sig should be updated to:

      First God made idiots. That was for practice. Then He made Jack Thompson.

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    16. Re:May fools? by HUADPE · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point the GP makes though is still valid. He is trying to rid the world of violent games. He is just doing it in the least effective way possible. This would be the rough equivalent of me suing someone for driving through a green light while kids were crossing with the walk sign in their direction...because I think that cars should wait for all pedestrians to cross all directions before proceeding.

      He is suing MS for doing something legal. There is no law preventing the sale of violent games to kids. The suit will be thrown out.

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    17. Re:May fools? by Torvaun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I believe it's called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Some people clean things. Some people count. Jack Thompson sues game manufacturers.

      Also, the fact that he can attempt to wield the power of the courts to enforce his warped perception is not scary in the least. The fact that you feel some people should not have access to the courts as arbiters is very scary, and if you were someone with even a modicum of power over the courts, it would immediately upgrade to scary as hell. The courts are the perfect place for this. Let Jack Thompson sue Microsoft. Microsoft will eat him. I would love to see them just skip to the third 'E' here. He should be able to do everything in his power under the law to force his views on the world at large, because now the world at large gets to apply massive backlash.

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    18. Re:May fools? by CaseM · · Score: 3, Funny

      You envy insanity?

      I don't.



      And neither do I.

  2. Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by Control+Group · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...because the low Earth orbit clutter problem just got a lot worse with all the pigs up there.

    I mean, they must be, since I'm going to be rooting for Microsoft to win a lawsuit.

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    1. Re:Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally, I'm just so confused because I want them BOTH to lose. The only thing that makes me NOT want it to be a protracted and expensive lawsuit for both parties is that then, only the lawyers would win.

      If only Microsoft, Jack AND the lawyers would just explode, we would all be winners.

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    2. Re:Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by deathy_epl+ccs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Personally, I'm just so confused because I want them BOTH to lose. The only thing that makes me NOT want it to be a protracted and expensive lawsuit for both parties is that then, only the lawyers would win.

      Remember... Jack IS a lawyer so by your statement, he would win.

    3. Re:Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why would you want Microsoft to lose? You really want to set a precedent that he can use to rip into every other game manufacturer on the planet? Not that I think they would, Best Buy caved more for publicity purposes than legal requirements.

    4. Re:Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I mean, they must be, since I'm going to be rooting for Microsoft to win a lawsuit.


      Microsoft is like the Black Plague: you want to avoid it at all costs, but it's great to see it go to work against your enemies.
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    5. Re:Time to sell your shares in the ISS... by wall0159 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      hmm. I guess when you go all reducto ad absurdism (or however it's spelt) it sounds wrong. However I don't think the world's really as black and white as you're trying to imply. Most mercenaries wouldn't just side with the enemy if they offered them more $$$ - this implies a moralistic component. Conversely, I think it would be possible to argue that some totalitarian states encourage amoralism (new word), under the guise of "just following orders" or whatever.

      An amoral person can do anything, as they look out for themself (also known as psychopathic) - at least a moral person behaves consistently.

      I don't really agree with your "traditional spectrum" of good -> evil. Many so-called "good" people have committed terrible (evil?) acts against "evil" people who were really just different. Look at things like the trail of tears...

  3. Destroy Jack by jnguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I never thought I would root for Microsoft, but I hope they destroy Jack Thompson.

    1. Re:Destroy Jack by 64nDh1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And don't stop at the lawyers - use all the leverage possible to keep him off air in any capacity whatsoever, discredit him, make him face his own past in a realm he can't run away from it - the courts. Underscore how frivolous his complaints are, but how much time and effort they detract by their process. Reveal how base his arguments are, how scientific studies and strived for impartiality have never entered his deranged mind as considerations. Exhalt in how loathed he is, how manipulative of genuine tragedy, how anachronistic in the basic tenets of his first arguments, how he's devolved from then.

      After all that, tell him it's not really Microsoft's responsiblity to police the fucking vendors, ridicule him for his lack of jurisprudence, move to have the twat disbarred, and let us be done with it.

  4. Geez, who do you root for? by MS-06FZ · · Score: 4, Funny

    Who do you root for in a case like this? I mean, I don't always approve of Microsoft. And Thompson, well... ...I take it back. Go Microsoft! Wipe the floor with this punk!

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  5. Too much self-importance.. by MrPerfekt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does this guy feel the need to force his "morality" on everyone? What makes him right and everyone else wrong? He's likely just the biggest douchebag in the world, but I was wondering if anyone, anywhere can defend him.

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    1. Re:Too much self-importance.. by nikostheater · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because he want to expose himself as a great christian crusader against the evils of this world and shit. He is just an imposter,a nobody that all his power is via TV. I think this threat that he is doing is empty,just theatrics.You know,for the ignorant grandmas of this world and for the hard core republicans like the ones that are the core voters for GWB.

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    2. Re:Too much self-importance.. by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and for the hard core republicans like the ones that are the core voters for GWB.

      Actually you'll find that "core" Republican voters REALLY REALLY hate trial attorneys.

      They'd much rather have some religious figure battle this sort of thing out in the media, not in the courts.

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    3. Re:Too much self-importance.. by Khaed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually it's not just Republicans who want to talk about this kind of gaming regulation. A lot of butt-kissing Democrats have made suggestions that way, including the rather liberal Hillary Clinton. This is not a Republican/Democrat issue. They both suck on this issue for the most part. They're all from the same generation that doesn't freaking understand games and how Thompson and his ilk are just publicity whores.

      It's the same thing as when dumbass Hatch suggested blowing up people's computers remotely for file sharing. It's simply a lack of understanding and pandering to someone who benefits them. In that case, the RIAA. In this case, the old people vote who think the current culture is just soooo awful.

      The problem isn't going to go away because most younger people only vote on American Idol.

  6. But what can they do by gbulmash · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, the title of this article is a misnomer. He's threatening to sue. He hasn't sued yet.

    How is Microsoft supposed to take drastic measures to ensure retailers don't sell its games to people under 17? I wouldn't be upset if Microsoft started a "17 means 17" program, where if they received proof of a retaler selling "M for Mature" games to people under 17, they would cut off that retailer from all shipments of Microsoft products for 6 months. But is it practical?

    If it was Wal-mart, would Microsoft cut them off or give them a stern warning? When I was young and working temp gigs at Disney, I spent a few days calling video stores that had broken street date on video releases, getting a store manager on the line, then handing them over to a Disney manager to chew them out and threaten them with not getting future releases.

    But one thing that was interesting was one of my co-workers told me how Costco got away with it all the time. They were such a huge retail channel for Disney videos, Disney couldn't afford to threaten Costco, so they just had to take a "grin and bear it" posture in those cases, filing a protest but unable to make threats.

    I'm sure Microsoft doesn't want to see young kids getting their hands on violent games and they're not doing tobacco industry style strategy sessions on how to sell "Halo 3" to 10-year-olds. OTOH, how much can they actually do when they're not the ones actually controlling the point of sale?

    1. Re:But what can they do by Angelwrath · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thanks for setting the record straight on the title. The more I read articles on the Internet, the more I see misleading, over-stated article titles meant to grab extra attention. Frankly I'm getting tired of it.

    2. Re:But what can they do by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thats what I was thinking initially. Their Lawyers can't just come out and rip him a new one because it looks bad. Forcing a 'solution' on all their distributors is just impractical. I imagine the first response will be a nice spokesman coming out and making all the right noises about how MS are concerned about kids being exposed to violence and all the measures they take to prevent this and that because they are concerned members of society their games are not really 'violent' its just a tiny part of the gameplay and while they respect and share Mr Thompson's concerns they are currently doing everything in their power to prevent improper sales etc.

      However after all the public bs I and considering that gaming and the XBox is going to make them quite a bit of money over the next few years I expect Thompson will find MS much more abrasive and confrontational should he do anything they feel is going to threaten their margins.

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  7. God has bad aim by mendax · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think that God was trying to blast Jack Thompson with his lightning bolts and got Jerry Fallwell instead. A pity.

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    1. Re:God has bad aim by cosinezero · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, no, Falwell has at least 20 more years of being a jackass than jack does. God doesn't always answer prayers on your timeframe.

    2. Re:God has bad aim by zolaar · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, his aim is fine. It's his ping time that is the problem. Jerry Fallwell had just been ludicrously evil for longer than Jack Thompson has, and (due to the stupid hardcoded speed-of-light thing**) it currently takes a couple decades to establish a TCP (Thunderbolt-Chucking Protocol) socket over ether. Oh, and don't even get him started on packet collisions between other deities on the network, either...



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  8. I will not be happy by Jackass+Thompson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I will not be happy until every last video game is banned. Video games are the cause of all of society's problems. Stop creating them, you godless hackers.

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    1. Re:I will not be happy by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Video games are the cause of all of society's problems"

      I thought it was beer.

      No beer is the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

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    2. Re:I will not be happy by Nephilium · · Score: 3, Informative

      Go with the older and better quote...

      Beer is proof that god loves us, and wants us to be happy.

      --Ben Franklin

      Nephilium

  9. The Media Should Ignore Him by stastuffis · · Score: 3, Informative

    He's a lunatic that feeds off attention.

    Why give him ammunition?

  10. What, what? by grassy_knoll · · Score: 4, Informative
    So wait.. Thompson is essentially barred from suing Take Two over it's games ( see here ) so now he's after Bill Gates?

    And what's this nonsense?

    As you also know, Lee Boyd Malvo trained on Microsoft's Halo to further enable him to become the remarkably efficient "DC Beltway Sniper." That was reported by NBC News at the time and was noted in Malvo's criminal trial.


    Yeah... killer training... because pushing buttons on a controller is exactly like firing a rifle.

    Seems like more grandstanding. I'd say Thompson is off his meds... but frankly, I'm not sure he was ever on them.
    1. Re:What, what? by Donniedarkness · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Seems like more grandstanding. I'd say Thompson is off his meds... but frankly, I'm not sure he was ever on them."

      Agreed completely. Jack is off his rocker.

      But didn't you hear? Halo taught Malvo how to circle-strafe, camp, AND recharge his shields by not getting hit.

      And, if he would have waited and trained on Halo 2, he would have learned how to hold two weapons at the same time!

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  11. OK, I'm confused by FlyByPC · · Score: 5, Funny

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend, right?

    ...so who do I root for here?

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  12. Re:Fuck Jack Thompson by normuser · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fuck Jack Thompson

    I wouldnt, who knows where that things been.
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  13. Don't believe it... by Jeff+Carr · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jack Thompson's goal isn't to prevent Halo 3 sales.

    It's quite clearly to get himself and Microsoft's lawyers in the same room at the same time. That much concentrated evil will surely create a gateway to hell and let through all the imps, pain elementals, and cyberdemons. Then his purpose for preventing people kids from playing Doom will become clear as his armies rampage unhindered and he begins his thousand year reign over all the nations of the earth!

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    1. Re:Don't believe it... by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 4, Funny

      They'll have to sacrifice a virgin.
      Know any place they can get one?


      This is Slashdot, just pick one at random.

  14. Wait...what? by amuro98 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I seriously hope that idiot goes through with this. It'll be amusing to watch Microsoft counter-sue idiot into oblivion.

    Isn't there a law about threatening a lawsuit? Could this finally be the last straw that causes idiot to be disbarred entirely? Not that he couldn't still hire another idiot to act as his attorney, but I suspect it'll become more expensive for idiot to continue threatening companies in this manner.

  15. Microsoft... by afxgrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... because really, they're just distributing a video game. This attack on gaming is stupid, just like many other laws trying to prevent social activities. It's a futuristic combat game, there is nothing REAL about any of it. The supposedly realistic world the game takes place in is a complete fictional fabrication. Unless Jack thinks Microsoft has a fucking time machine and knows that this is the true future. :-)

    Why doesn't he focus his effort on banning violence from news reports ... cause that's like real. Or how about violence in film? That is a depiction of real people, handling pseudo-weapons that are designed to look like real weapons, and through the use of special effects, depict the actual killing of people in as much graphic detail as possible (cause it looks cooler). He really needs to stop acting like a fucking crusader for the war on video games. I am under the impression that there is no "moral majority" backing any of his actions, and the generation of adults who grew up playing video games will just want Mr. Thompson to shut up.

    And if he brings up the recent VT shootings, from what I understand of Cho's background, that he didn't play video games.

    Can someone please throw a cream pie at Thompson, like ASAP? Someone already nailed BillyG with a pie, someone needs to get Jack.

    1. Re:Microsoft... by Asmandeus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Before that can happen we need someone to make a pie throwing game to train us.

  16. Oh my God. by adam.dorsey · · Score: 5, Funny

    He just kicked the 800-pound gorilla in the nuts.

    This is so wonderful. This story just made my day.

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  17. In other news... by FinchWorld · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Laywer Jack Thompson was killed in a tragic incident at his home a few minutes ago, early reports seem to indicate assassination by means of a thrown chair. The state of the scene have led police to believe a large ape like creature is to blame, local Zoo's have been contacted.

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    1. Re:In other news... by the_tsi · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hahahahaha! See, it's funny because of that once incident years ago where Steve Ballmer got angry and threw a chair! (Not many people remember this, particularly on Slashdot.) Plus, Steve Ballmer works at Microsoft! (Also an easy to forget factoid.) Therefore, you're implying he'd use this technique for dealing with opponents of the company! Aahhahaa, man, the sublety and creativeness in your humor is great! I wish more people on slashdot could come up with witty (and fresh) jokes like this.

    2. Re:In other news... by cyphercell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Breaking News: Animal control was able to tame the wild shaven ape aka "the ballmosapien", by using it's natural mating call "developers, developers, developers!".

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    3. Re:In other news... by Random+Destruction · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree completely, but look at the moderation. This won't ever stop until the overloards/chairthrowing/enough for anyone/profit/etc jokes stop being a surefire way to get modded up.

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    4. Re:In other news... by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Funny

      You's people's really need to get over your's anger towards misused grammar's.

    5. Re:In other news... by CHacker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shouldn't that be "you're's" ?

    6. Re:In other news... by ajs · · Score: 4, Funny

      AHHHH!!!!

      An apostrophe is usually a marker of possessiveness. It is NEVER used for plurality.

      This is basic English. Please learn it. There are a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that taste just as good as the real thing....
    7. Re:In other news... by adolf · · Score: 5, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our chair-throwing overlords!

    8. Re:In other news... by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny

      Breaking News: Animal control was able to tame the wild shaven ape aka "the ballmosapien", by using it's natural mating call "developers, developers, developers!".
      "sapien"? In reference to Steve Ballmer? Surely you jest!
      Yeah, but "Ballmer Erectus" is just So Wrong (TM) on so many levels...
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    9. Re:In other news... by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 4, Funny

      "until the overloards/chairthrowing/enough for anyone/profit/etc jokes stop being a surefire way to get modded up."

      Sooo...never?

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    10. Re:In other news... by shaitand · · Score: 5, Funny

      *sigh* Sorry man, I just can't back an overlord joke when the overlord is Ballmer and the evil empire of Microsoft.

      Unless... you are posting in soviet russia?

    11. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      *sigh* Sorry man, I just can't back an overlord joke when the overlord is Ballmer and the evil empire of Microsoft.

      Unless... you are posting in soviet russia?

      Can't be. Then the overlords, for one, would be welcoming HIM.

  18. Go for it Jack Thomson... by NinjaTariq · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a parent I wish to let someone have the responsibility of bringing up my kids right, I am tired or trying to stop them doing things that they shouldn't...

    I am going to buy Halo 3 for my own enjoyment, and I want Jack Thomson to personally come to my house here in PA and keep them out of the room so they don't see the graphic violence as I take the convenant and flood once more... You go Jack, I assume because your self righteous head is so far up your own self righteous ass, that you won't even need me to pay you...

    I love you Jack, you are my hero, I hereby grant you all of my parental responsibility, since you are so much better at it than me. I urge parents on slashdot to do the same.

    The man is an idiot, I bet the guy who reads Bill's mail got a good laugh. Jack Thomson should NOT breed.

  19. Re:This is quite a paradox... by JContad · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm Australian. So unless you've got a thing for over-zealous, insane lawyers (or fat, dirty legal entities with rights similar to an individual), I'd suggest your girlfriend. Wait-

  20. What are PARENTS for? by TheChromaticOrb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can we please return parental control back to parents? I was under the impression that Thompson et al preach traditional values and the "reinstitution" of family. If you really want to feed the lawyers, please ask the courts to force families to be responsible for raising their kids, not to take the responsability away from it. Thank you.

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  21. Fighting the wrong fight. by Breander · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not that I would be against a law to state that it is illegal for someone to sell mature video games to kids, but come on a violent video game is way less dangerous then drugs, cigarettes, and alcohol. 99.9% of kids can play violent video games and not be any way affected by them. And those that are affect usually have other contributing factors that make it so. There is no way Microsoft could assure that there game is never sold to children. Look at all the before mentioned products, they still get sold to kids all the time even though its illegal by law. Jack Thompson is fighting the wrong people. He needs to be helping parents learn how to be parents. Most young kids don't have the money to buy a 50 - 60 dollar game. Let alone a several hundred dollar console.

  22. Under 17... of what? by Gertlex · · Score: 3, Funny

    The quote (bah, I didn't RTFA) says nothing about age.

    Just let him do it, and then when he sues, Microsoft can just tell him that they didn't sell to anyone under 17" of height. Or cm, or mm, or lbs, or you get the idea.

  23. Gentlemen, this is a hoax by netcrusher88 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How do I know?

    * The writing style is juvenile, and though Thompson may be a fool, he is a lawyer, which means he knows how to write official-looking documents, and that was too casual for even a professional memo.
    * Who the hell has ever heard of GameAlmighty? Attention whores like Thompson don't CC legal threats to unheard-of small gaming blogs with about a hundred readers. They CC it to NBC or something.
    * Who the hell has ever heard of GameAlmighty? Claiming to have received a letter from Jack Thompson is an extremely effective way to get hits.
    * Thompson already sent a letter to Bill Gates, about Counter-Strike. If he was going to send a letter about Halo 3, it would likely go to Steve Jobs.
    * Again with the writing style. It just feels very, very wrong. Can we get a literature/psychology professor/professional to analyze these?

    I know I'm going to get modded down for this, but I'll be the one laughing. Or maybe you will, and I'll be laughing at myself. I could be wrong.

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    1. Re:Gentlemen, this is a hoax by yakumo.unr · · Score: 4, Interesting

      you have seen the emails Thomson sent to vgcats right? http://www.vgcats.com/jack.php

    2. Re:Gentlemen, this is a hoax by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      I did not rtfa, but I have read letters from him, and they all read very amateurish.

      Seriously, I don't know where he got his degree, but I ahve seen more articulate posts on /.

      A goodly portion of his letters is often defending himself again perceived slights to be.

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    3. Re:Gentlemen, this is a hoax by KermodeBear · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're right; his writing style is juvenile. I've seen his letters in more than one place. Every time I have read one I wonder how on earth he managed to get a license to practice law in the first place. Then, I feel as if my own personal IQ has dropped a few notches.

      Something I found to be insightful when trying to understand Jack Thompson is the whole situation with Penny Arcade. Start with the Wed, October 12 2005 - 10:49 AM entry and keep reading. Not only is it amusing, it is very eye opening.

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  24. Dear Microsoft, by geekoid · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please crush Jack Thompson in a very public way. Show the world how mistaken he is, and make him a laughingstock.

    For this, I would change my position and buy an XBox.

    Thank you.

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  25. You know... by Applekid · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... perhaps it's time Jack Thompson had his own icon.

    It could look like that Marge Squirrel from that episode of The Simpsons when Marge was all upity against Itch and Scratchy.

    Just a thought.

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  26. Self-regulation by Aeron65432 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the ESRB's rating system have no legal ground at all? Therefore it's not illegal for stores to sell to u-18s....depends on store policy.

  27. Should Jack take Microsoft to court... by wilgibson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    it would be one case I would hope Microsoft wins. Seriously, Jack Thompson is a blithering idiot. I find it quite funny that there are many games out there far more violent than the ones he chooses to single out, yet it is like he is oblivious, Oh wait, that's right... he is!

    What really amazes me is the man hasn't gone after the Wii(at least to my knowledge). Come on, a game like Red Steel should be a big fat target for this guy. Not to mention Metroid Prime 3, which is a game that is making some buzz. You would think the controls used in these games would seriously disturb him, those Wiimotes are more like guns than any 360 or PS controller could ever be!

    1. Re:Should Jack take Microsoft to court... by cbhacking · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My mod points literally expired minutes before I loaded this, but I'm giving you a virtual +1 Interesting.

      The thing that always seems really stupid to me about these claims is that with the exception of joysticks for (combat) flight sims, the controls used in (violent) videogames are nothing at all like the ones used in real life. I'm a half-decent shot with a pistol and much better with a rifle, but I absolutely suck at FPS games... and I bet the reverse is usually true as well. FPSs just don't account for things like the weight or length of the weapon, the affect recoil has on aim (I mean, see above comment on FPS games, but even I know how to tip the sight control stick slightly down in Halo 2 so my SMGs don't climb from recoil... whereas real full automatics are far harder to control and vast amounts of R&D has gone into the invention of 'governers' that limit the number of shot fired in a burst, because otherwise people tend to shoot most of their ammo into the sky. The grips are also different, and even the triggers don't feel the same at all.

      The real difference, however, is the aiming. Mouse, keyboard, analog stick, joystick, control pad... it doesn't matter, not a single one is anything like actually trying to hit a target with a real weapon. I don't shoot at people, obviously, and usually not at terribly mobile targets, but even lining up on a stationary target is a major difference. This is especially true if shooting 'from the hip' (which is WAY harder than movies make it look) where you don't have any kind of crosshairs, zoom, or direct LoS along the barrel. Until now, no videogame* I've ever seen has even approached what real-life aiming is like.

      Now, along comes the Wii. You aim by... aiming. Your hand is on a object not terribly unlike any firearm without a pistol grip. You are shooting in a way that's pretty much 'from the hip' with perhaps the equivalent of a laser sight added (crosshairs on screen). I haven't played Red Steel or any other Wii game involving shooting with a Wiimote, and I'm sure the best of them still isn't terribly realistic, but it's a hell of a lot closer than any other mainstream control scheme I know of* and if JT actually gives a damn about the supposed reason behind his crusade (keeping people safe) and has an IQ of better than 40 (not sure about this either, but he did supposedly make it through law school) he should be terrified/outraged by this!

      *Ok, duckhunt. But seriously, the aim in that game was a joke; it was more about learning how to game the system than about how to target accurately. There may have been others - I wasn't much into console games at all until recently - but by and large what I've said above holds true.

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  28. Dear Microsoft... by halcyon1234 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... sue him first.

    1. Re:Dear Microsoft... by jmac1492 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Does he have any patents?

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  29. gl by Lehk228 · · Score: 5, Funny

    good luck with that jack.

    and by 'good luck' I mean, 'I hope you die in a fire'

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  30. MS's Games Division by cgenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, MS's games division are really nice guys. At some point, MS basically decided to open a console division, and did so by throwing money at the most passionate game dorks they could find, then giving them space to do what they wanted to do. Because the division is reasonably young, and the older executives largely keep their hands off of it, it's not plagued by the infighting that the rest of MS is.

    I originally wanted the Xbox to fail miserably in the market, lest the beast from redmond do to consoles what they did to operating systems. But, by and large, the games division has been run by a bunch of stand-up guys doing good stuff. And I'm not just saying that because I've met them, but also from what they've done. You have to admit, the Xbox 360 is no MSN.

    1. Re:MS's Games Division by miro+f · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and do you think that they will still be running it and allowed to do what they want once Microsoft has domination of the gaming world?

      At least the advantage of Gaming is that there is no real inertia, everyone starts at the same point every five years. If MS gains a monopoly its usual tactics won't keep it there.

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    2. Re:MS's Games Division by kripkenstein · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At least the advantage of Gaming is that there is no real inertia, everyone starts at the same point every five years. If MS gains a monopoly its usual tactics won't keep it there.
      It does seem that way, doesn't it? Just remember, there was no OS monopoly before Windows, and no office monopoly before MS Office. Microsoft are experts at generating self-propagating monopolies (yes, they failed at many things - MSN, Zune - but a few big successes are all they need). Just watch, they are already leveraging their Windows monopoly to help the XBOX (multiplayer games with Windows and XBOX, shared credit system, etc.), they are consolidating their development tools so that developing for Windows and XBOX can be done simultaneously, and I am sure they have more tricks up their sleeve (look at the XBOX media store, I am sure we will see tight integration with Windows).

      So yes, people buy a new console every 5 years. But only the Microsoft console will integrate especially well with their Windows machine, both for the end-user and the developer. We may very well see a console monopoly in the next decade. Sadly, Sony and Nintendo seem to have no clue (if they did, we would see them standardizing their development tools, integrating with iPods, etc.).
  31. Re:Bill's Reply by JEGSYDAU · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, it would read: That's the dumbest fucking letter I've read since I've been at Microsoft. Regards, Bill Gates.

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  32. PixelScuba replies to post with a great response by PixelScuba · · Score: 4, Funny

    Agreed.

  33. If only Jack was a fool for one month by kinglink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Jack is the biggest joke in the game industry already but he also costs people millions in litigation for his causes. You remember that old line "it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye" it's become "it's all fun and game until someone litigates" and Thompson has proven he's willing to do that.

    Hell just when you think Thompson might give the public a break for a month, he comes out again such as this.

    1. Re:If only Jack was a fool for one month by Talgrath · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It doesn't, the DC Snipers never even played video games, to my knowledge. One of them was a trained military sniper, hey, wait! We should ban the mliitary because they cause violence!

  34. Jack is not too fond of those newfangled "facts" by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's a member of the old guard of lawyers, the fast-talking, slam-dunking moralizers. He doesn't care about the facts, facts have a godless liberal bias. It was proven that Cho Seung-Hui did NOT play any video games, much less trained on them- but that didn't stop Ol'Jack from jumping in the minute the first VT student's body hit the floor to claim that he was a GTA maniac.

    The worst part is that he actually got airtime to say this complete fabricatio`on national television

    So sad...

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  35. Re:Specific Focus by chthon · · Score: 4, Informative

    I really had to concentrate.

    I still have to concentrate. Keeping a journal helps (I use TiddlyWiki). By creating regularly a journal, you can do a summary of what you have accomplished, and you can map out what you want to do.

    It comes down to planning. Start with a plan, then concentrate on the separate steps of the plan.

    It is a little bit like repeating a mantra. Sometimes working on a project gets boring, or you desperately need to understand something, or design something, repeat to yourself the end goal of your target.

    Also, try to stop thinking about the mountain of work that lies ahead of you. If you have a large project, thinking about the amount of work that needs to be done can very easy demotivate you. When that happens, concentrate on the small thing that you need to accomplish NOW.

    I started my project in August last year. I started with a kind of plan. I had the following goals :

    • Create a library for simulating digital components (MSI).
    • Use this library to implement a simulated computer architecture.
    • Design my own computer architecture.
    • Use Common Lisp, in order to learn Common Lisp.
    • Get experience with open source VC (Subversion) and CM (trac) systems.

    By creating a plan, and always concentrate on my end goal, I was able to start this project, and write pages of upfront documentation before implementing each part of the digital library.

    By the end of November, most of this library was complete, in December I started designing my architecture, and the ISA was ready by Januari.

    Do not get distracted by possible optimisations. Once I got together my ISA and implementation architecture, I had to go ahead with building a real system from the libraries I designed, even when there where some small, non-critical errors in it. Keeping a journal can help here, too. Write about your possible changes in it, so that you have a reference, but let them alone until your system works.

    One has to keep oneself in line with the desired goal. For some people this comes natural (although I tend to assign to such people a lack of imagination), for others, especially with a vivid imagination, this is not so easy. I presume it comes down to conditioning.

    I was also tired of myself, of not being able to do something that I really wanted, or at least start something and really go through with it, until it was finished, and note merely barely working.

    Do not forget to take rest, but take a rest which clears your head. For that I have my garden, and I like to read, but not difficult things (this should only be done in the context of your project). It should relax your brain from the concentration that you need to focus on your project.

    The above list is just a summary of the things that I have done. I think it comes down to : concentrate on your plans, concentrate on your goals, file away things that are not relevant to what you want to do.

    And I think one more important aspect : be prepared from the onset to say to yourself that you will not be sorry dumping all the rest of your ideas, at the advantage of the one thing that you would like to work on.