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After Ubuntu, Windows Looks Increasingly Bad

Posted by ScuttleMonkey on from the put-up-yer-dukes dept.

mrcgran writes "Sys-Con has a look at some advantages of using Ubuntu over Windows. 'My recent switch to a single-boot Ubuntu setup on my Thinkpad T60 simply floors me on a regular basis. Most recently it's had to do with the experience of maintaining the software. Fresh from a very long Windows 2000 experience and a four-month Windows XP experience along with a long-time Linux sys admin role puts me in a great position to assess Ubuntu. Three prior attempts over the years at using Linux as my daily desktop OS had me primed for failure. Well, Ubuntu takes Linux where I've long hoped it would go — easy to use, reliable, dependable, great applications too but more on that later. It has some elegance to it — bet you never heard that about a Linux desktop before.'"

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  1. Popup / flash / whatever alert by hoover · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'd flag this as off topic, but that's the worst, adblock plus-evading website I've come across in a while. If that's the destiny of the web, then thanks, but no thanks, from me.

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    1. Re:Popup / flash / whatever alert by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 5, Funny

      OMG you just pinged the entire Internet!

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    2. Re:Popup / flash / whatever alert by suv4x4 · · Score: 5, Funny

      OMG you just pinged the entire Internet!

      Poor internet. I'll reboot it, may fix it.

  2. Nice pitch, but... by Fx.Dr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Fresh from a very long Windows 2000 experience and a four-month Windows XP experience along with a long-time Linux sys admin role puts me in a great position to assess Ubuntu."

    TFA reads less like a comparison of two OS's than an Ubuntu sales pitch. Granted, I use and love Ubuntu, but I like my side-by-sides with a little less bias from the get-go.

    1. Re:Nice pitch, but... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. So he's used XP for a big four months and is in a position to critique all of Windows?

      Don't get me wrong. I have a lot more use for linux than windows...My windows PC is basically a beefy Xbox that I occasionally use to run photoshop and dreamweaver.

      But a passing familiarity with XP doesn't qualify you to judge all of Microsoft. What about Win2k3? What about Vista? A Vista-to-Feisty comparison would at least be apples to apples. Comparing an OS released in April to two released in 2000 and 2001 respectively, is absurd.

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  3. Sys admin not always the best to assess software. by KIFulgore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "...along with a long-time Linux sys admin role puts me in a great position to assess Ubuntu"

    I find sys admins often don't make the best user-friendly assessments of desktop software and OSs, especially from average Joe's point of view. No offense to the author, who makes many valid points, but I'd rather see a comparison of Ubuntu, Vista, and OS X from a school teacher or small business owner.

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  4. No, not really. by AbandonAllHope · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...long with a long-time Linux sys admin role puts me in a great position to assess Ubuntu. Right. Can you imagine the response had someone said "As a long time Windows server admin, I'm in a great position to assess Vista". Seriously, how many more articles about long time linux users "discovering" they love this or that distro are we in for?
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  5. not worried about security? by bigmaddog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA:

    1)Viruses - I no longer worry and I no longer need to check my PC - that's a relief. You can pick nits here about security but the bottom line is Ubuntu is orders of magnitude better.

    2)Vulnerabilities - Windows is like Swiss cheese with so many vulnerabilities that it's sick - you can't connect XP to a public Internet connection (i.e., behind a router is OK but direct to the net isn't). Ubuntu? It's Linux - no worries.

    That's FANTASTIC! Who is this guy and what's his IP?

    Yes, MS sucks, Windows sucks, bugs galore and all that, but all nontrivial software is going to have bugs, and some of those bugs will lead to vulnerabilities, and some of those vulnerabilities will lead to viruses, attacks and so on. The reason that there aren't a lot of Linux viruses/attacks prawling around the net is because the Windows population is orders of magnitude larger than than the Linux population, making the choice obvious for any would-be parasite. Maybe Ubuntu is way better software than Windows in any number of ways - ehm, I mean, of course it is, but if it were to sweep Windows clean off the face of the Earth and take its place, you'd be installing Symantec for Ubuntu and worrying about script kiddies, trojans and the like. If Ubuntu is better then it'll be harder to exploit, but exploits will happen - the perceived calm right now exists because too few people are trying to attack the platform.

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  6. The List by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Informative

    Whenever these discussions come up, I like to forestall some of the repetition by posting my list of wins for OS X, Windows, and Linux. This is a list of the things each OS does better than some others, not a list of problems. Feel free to post and suggest other items, but please know what you;re talking about. I hate getting posts from people who clearly have never used two of the OS's in question and are simply assuming their favorite OS must do it better.

    OS X Wins:

    • Sane UI choices - OS X does not ignore the last two decades worth of human/computer interaction research.
    • System services - global (nearly) spellchecking, dictionary/thesaurus, and plug-in functionality like grammar checking, language translation, only reference lookups, bibliography formatting, etc.
    • OpenStep application bundles - drag and drop installation and uninstallation of most applications, e-mail or IM working programs without having to save installers, run software off an ipod or thumb drive without having to install (including remembering per-machine preferences), easy binaries for multiple platforms, finding resources in packages is much easier and requires no tools.
    • Security - for a variety of reasons that don't matter to most end users, OS X users have never had to worry about malware or worms and probably will not have to in the foreseeable future.
    • Usable shell environment - bash, tcsh, whatever; the CLI on OS X is very usable and powerful and a first class citizen. We'll see if this comparison changes when Monad is released.
    • Automater - scripting usable by secretaries. This is the easiest tool for some tasks and the only automation/scripting I've seen that some novices can quickly learn and use.
    • Included applications - both CLI tools, GUI utilities, and GUI applications, OS X has more and nicer ones than Windows you include iTunes, iPhoto, Preview, etc., etc.
    • Upgrading hardware - upgrading a mac to a mac is as easy as plugging in a firewire cable clicking a button. This saves a lot of time and effort, amazingly better
    • Ubiquitous zeroconf - automatically and instantly finds printers, local chat, streaming music, file shares, and collaborative documents
    • PDF support - create PDFs from everywhere and viewing is fast, fast, fast compared to Vista.
    • Emulation/ports/virtualization/compatability - it is easier to run Linux and Windows software on OS X and there are more options to do so on OS X, than there are to run Linux and OS X apps on Windows (yeah I know about cygwin and Apple's licensing and the relative number of apps)
    • Easier support of third party devices, plug them in and they just work much more often.
    • No Registration - never worry about entering serial numbers or tracking them or you computer deciding you're a dirty pirate.

    Windows Vista Wins:

    • Application availability - more developers target Windows and eventually a lot of people want to run some niche software that does not work without Windows
    • Not tied to one hardware vendor - If you run Windows you have more hardware choices and likely get a machine that meets your needs more cheaply than a Mac, as a result.
    • Package manager - Windows has a pretty lame software install/uninstall manager, but it is still better than nothing
    • Antivirus/phishing features - OS X and Linux don't have a lot of need, but this is still not a bad precaution
    • Remote desktop features - have clients for more platforms than OS X's comparable feature, and is better than Linux for a few tasks, but worse for others.
    • Wider support for third party devices, everyone makes a Windows driver, not everyone makes an OS X or Linux driver
    • Easier to find unofficial support from random people you know
    • Indexed searching is useable by default, unlike most Linux distros
    • Default color support has poorer management and accuracy, but wider range
    • Application level granularity of sound controls is usefu
  7. Re:wow, what a popup! by Braino420 · · Score: 5, Funny

    what is this "popup" you speak of?

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  8. This is especially true by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because I find that systems/network tools are one of Linux's strongest points. I mean let's see what I need for doing the systems support part of my job:

    --E-Mail: Check. Linux has Thunderbird, which is what I use under Windows.
    --Web: Check. Again, same thing as I'd use under Windows (Firefox).
    --SSH: Check. Maybe the command line SSH client isn't quite as pretty, but it works in ever way as well.
    --Remote Desktop: Check. Not as slick as the Windows one, but doesn't lack for anything important.
    --Text editor: Check. I like UltraEdit better, but there are plenty that work fine for Linux.
    --Ability to map SMB and/or NFS shares: Check.

    That's pretty much it for the major tools I need. So long as I can check on the problems that need solving, and get to the servers that they need solving on, that's all my system needs to do for that part of the job. Linux does that just fine. Hell, so does Solaris.

    However that doesn't carry over to other areas necessarily. A good example of where it doesn't is media production. The tools for Linux are sub par at best in my experience. In theory it might be possible to do what I need, but in practice I have never been able to figure out how and it is just too much effort. For Windows I just install Sony Vegas and go, it makes everything easy. In Linux it is fighting with many different tools, some of which are quite hard to get compiled (no binary distribution) none of which seem to be able to do everything that is needed.

    So picking an area that Linux is strongest at isn't necessarily that useful, especially when talking Linux on the desktop. I mean I've known sysadmins that use Solaris as their desktop OS, doesn't mean that anyone would suggest it is intended for prime time desktop usage. Also, sysadmins are (or at least should be) more able to deal with some of the problems you'll encounter. Dropping to a command line it something a sysadmin should be able to do. A normal user? Not so much. If it isn't pointy and clicky with everything spelled out, it may be past their competence.

  9. Re:I'm very impressed with Ubuntu by Air-conditioned+cowh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Errm. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that be tantamount to collaborating with the enemy?

    OK guys. Mod me flaimbait! Let's get it over with...

  10. Re:wow, what a popup! by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bender: Behold: the Internet!
    Fry: My God. It's full of ads!

  11. that didn't take long by dAzED1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    has it already been 12 hours since the last "Ubuntu is great!" article?

    Just um, how often do we need to see these, anyway?

  12. Re:What is Ubuntu? by zeylisse · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Ubuntu" is an ancient african word. It means "I can't configure debian"

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