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Emoticons in the Workplace

Platonic writes "According to the New York Times, the Emoticon has become much more than something the kids do after school. The little guys seem to have found their way into the workforce: being used by stock brokers and even the U.S. Military. From TFA: 'I mean, it's ludicrous," said Ms. Feldman, 25. "I'm not going to feel better about losing hundreds of thousands of dollars because someone puts a frown face to regretfully inform me.'"

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  1. Shocking! by UncleWilly · · Score: 5, Funny

    :-O

    1. Re:Shocking! by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, shocking. My boss, who holds a PhD in finance, and rags on me about my spelling regularly uses lol, brb, and the like. I got an e-mail the other day from an insurance company that contained two :).
      Being of the first generation to grow up with chat rooms, IM and SMS, I find it entertaning that I don't use :) and people older than I do.

      Wierd

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    2. Re:Shocking! by Anonymous+Monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      As I said, my boss rags on me about my spelling ;)

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    3. Re:Shocking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I got an e-mail the other day from an insurance company that contained two :).


      UR RATEZ WENT UP BY 22%!!! ZOMG WTF!!! :(
      ON TEH BRITE SIZE OUR PROFITZ R UP BY 33%!!! LOL!!! :)
    4. Re:Shocking! by Richard+Steiner · · Score: 3, Funny

      Even Doctor Who encountered cyber stuff earlier than that! :-) His first encounter with Cybermen was in 1966 according to this article.

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  2. Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by zCyl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While there are places emoticons clearly do not belong, such as in formal business documents, there are also quite reasonable places to consider using them, such as informal communications between people engaged in business. Smiling, at its most basic form, is a signal that something is not a danger, and acts as a tool for bonding. This has intrinsic value for business, and it's why people also sometimes smile while conducting business in person. Why not extend this capability to less formal electronic communication for business as well since the tool already exists?

    1. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Smiling, at its most basic form, is a signal that something is not a danger, and acts as a tool for bonding.

      I don't know about bonding, but I've found myself using emoticons on Slashdot more and more often. The problem I found was that too many people were reading an ultra-serious-- or even accusatory! --tone into posts that were intended to be light-hearted and friendly. Sprinkling the post with :-), :-P, or :-/ here and there can help get the correct tone across, even if it looks kind of lame. :-/

      Of course, there will always be those who either miss the purpose of the emoticons or willfully ignore their purpose in communicating tone, but I have found that it clears up the majority of misunderstandings before they occur.
    2. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't like your tone.. are you trying to say that I read comments too quickly, and get all huffy? How could you be so mean? *cries*

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    3. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      a cop-out that the lazy people use to avoid sharpening their writing

      "Proper" writing often requires a great deal more of proof-reading and rewrites than most people are willing to put into a quick post to a forum or an email to a friend. Thus emoticons are less of a "cop out" and more of a useful shortcut in communicating.

      a way to soften the tone of the communication by people who are too afraid of offending someone

      Why should I want to offend someone who I'm trying to have a pleasant conversation with? Part of intelligent discourse is to address sensitive issues. If you don't keep your tone soft, you may run into a hard wall when emotional investments in the topic are brought to light.

      Take Chernobyl as an example. Discussing the actual number of deaths is an emotionally charged issue. Simply stating that the actual death count was vastly exaggerated by the media and that only a few dozen people died will get you a response to the effect of "you heartless bastard!" before you can even get to the issue of the thousands of victims who had to be treated for thyroid cancer. "Softing" one's speech to the point of clinical analysis combined with with a "warm" understanding of other's feelings can help you get farther in a discussion of the issue than immediately offending them, unintentionally or otherwise.

      While some don't see the point of such emotionally-charged discourse, I've found that there are often solid reasons at the heart of such emotion. These reasons can often help in shaping a clear, balanced opinion rather than immediately taking sides.
    4. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by Skadet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do get the utility of the emoticons, but they irk me when they are either a cop-out that the lazy people use to avoid sharpening their writing, or a way to soften the tone of the communication by people who are too afraid of offending someone.

      I consider myself a fairly sharp writer -- not author material, perhaps, but easily in the top percentile when it comes to expressing myself through written word. However, it seems I have a knack for coming across as a smart-ass in my informal communication. A main complaint about me in my WoW guild (I'll wait for you to stop laughing. . . okay.) is that I seem like a total dick in guild chat. But the same people who say that will add that I'm the "nicest guy" on Ventrilo.

      I really can think of no way to correct that without talking to people as if they're children -- congratulating them on the smallest of accomplishments, peppering my words with :) and ~_^ . . . without hearing the inflection of your voice, a lot of people will automatically assume that a playful or sarcastic, or playfully sarcastic comment is rude and mean-spirited.

    5. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by Chysn · · Score: 5, Funny

      Take Chernobyl as an example. Discussing the actual number of deaths is an emotionally charged issue. Simply stating that the actual death count was vastly exaggerated by the media and that only a few dozen people died will get you a response to the effect of "you heartless bastard!" before you can even get to the issue of the thousands of victims who had to be treated for thyroid cancer. "Softing" one's speech to the point of clinical analysis combined with with a "warm" understanding of other's feelings can help you get farther in a discussion of the issue than immediately offending them, unintentionally or otherwise. Let's take that concept for a ride:

      The actual death count at Chernobyl was vastly exaggerated by the media :-D . Only a few dozen people died :)
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    6. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by AndersOSU · · Score: 5, Funny

      Clearly you're right. There is no possible way to convey sarcasm in text without including an emoticon.

    7. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by halber_mensch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sprinkling the post with :-), :-P, or :-/ here and there can help get the correct tone across, even if it looks kind of lame. :-/
      <?XML version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
      <tone xmlns="http://smileysarebad.com/xsd/tone">
      <facetious>Hasn't XML, in its infinite glory in all applications, already given us a method that's a little less lame?</facetious>
      </tone>
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    8. Re:Emotions are not mutually exclusive from work by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here's what I just typed out:
      An... amusing take. :-)

      Now let's see that again:
      An... amusing take.

      And again:
      An... amusing take. :-/

      Once more:
      An... amusing take. :-(

      Interesting how it goes from light, to dry, to wry, to negative, isn't it? ;-)

      FWIW, I was thinking more along the lines of:

      "One of the key issues to understand about Chernobyl is that the media greatly exaggerated the death rate. Make no mistake, there *were* thousands of people who contracted thyroid cancer, but the vast majority were treated and are still alive today. According to the international research body setup to study the effects of Chernobyl, the actual death toll was (thankfully) closer to only a few dozen individuals. :-)"

  3. The world is not yet ready! ;[ by HitekHobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can only speak for myself, but I always get the feeling that I'm dealing with the lowest possible tier of CSR when I start getting emoticons or excessive punctuation in my communications.

    1. Re:The world is not yet ready! ;[ by pbhj · · Score: 3, Funny

      omgponies roflmao

      #;o)>

    2. Re:The world is not yet ready! ;[ by networkBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Business to customer, never use emoticons, avoid cultural references and slang (i.e. "hit it out of the park").
      Inter-team communications within company, light to no use of emoticons, some slang (if teams in same country)
      Intra-team, emoticons, abbrv, AFK, BRB, etc. slang. vastly more acceptable.

      That'd be the rules where I work and they seem to work quite well.
      -nB

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  4. Meh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The gist of the article seems to be, "This is the way it is now, so it's acceptable." I don't really agree.

    It's an informal style, so sure, where informality is allowed, sure, why not? If you feel comfortable dropping your boss a joke email, then there is no reason you shouldn't throw in a random emoticon in routine correspondence, but I would seriously recommend against using the "unhappy face" to deliver any sort of bad news, or adding in random emoticons on anything resembling official correspondence, or anything that might get passed on up the line.

    It's just not professional.

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    1. Re:Meh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think sarcasm is by far the best reason to use an emoticon. Without one, you have to hope the person on the other end has a sufficiently refined sarcasm detector and won't get offended...Not something you want to count on in a work environment.

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    2. Re:Meh. by billdar · · Score: 3, Insightful
      True. But, in a business environment, what you can get away with at the water cooler probably shouldn't be documented with a paper or digital trail....

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    3. Re:Meh. by tb()ne · · Score: 4, Funny

      But with bad news, it would help convey a sense of understanding or empathy. For example:

      Mr. Johnson,

      Your employment here at MegaCorp is terminated, effective immediately :-(

      Director,
      Human Resources

    4. Re:Meh. by imadoofus · · Score: 5, Funny

      But with bad news, it would help convey a sense of understanding or empathy. For example:

      Mr. Johnson,

      Your employment here at MegaCorp is terminated, effective immediately :-)

      Director,
      Human Resources

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    5. Re:Meh. by EtoilePB · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This is how I always feel, as well. I'm guilty of using emoticons to excess when posting in forums online, and when modding communities I run (particularly when deleting posts made by teenage girls who already think they suck, an occasional :) helps them not take it too personally). But anytime I catch myself dropping one into an e-mail at work, even into an informal e-mail directed at a colleague I consider myself friendly with, I delete it immediately.

      I'm in my late 20s and so supposedly of this generation that finds it "acceptable," but I was still taught to consider a workplace, and workplace communications, more formal than that. If your words are not sufficient to communicate your tone and message, then you need to work harder on communicating in writing.

  5. Very true. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

    This display of unprofessionalism is most upsetting. As a result, I've sent out a memo to the office banning the use of emoticons in work-related matters. It's written in Comic Sans MS.

  6. Reintegrating RL Cues by andrewd18 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quite frankly, a large majority of what we understand in face-to-face conversation comes from body language. A smaller section are the vocal cues and intonations we pick up on. The smallest part of what we understand in a conversation is the actual words. Since e-mail is only words, and completely lacks the body language/intonation cues we're used to in real life, can you really blame someone for trying to add some of those cues back in?

    Apparently yes. I, for one, welcome our "naïve tweens on AOL Instant Messenger finding out after-school soccer practice is canceled" overlords.

    1. Re:Reintegrating RL Cues by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is true, as far as it goes, but when we're engaging in face to face conversation, we don't tend to hugely overstate our expressions in order to convey our feelings. An emoticon is a one-note emotional ejaculation (yea haha, I said...nevermind), and doesn't really convey anything except that you don't really mean what you're saying the way it sounds.

      In an informal context, sure, a few emoticons are acceptable. In a formal situation, you need to take the time to make sure your writing accurately conveys your opinions and feelings, even if you have to spell it out more than you would in person.

      The only times I really feel the need to use a smiley is when I'm being sarcastic or ironic, and that has no place in formal communication anyway.

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  7. imagine my surprise by friedman101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    After the market damage from last week my broker sent me this

    IM IN UR PORTFOLIO
    SHORTING UR GUGULS

  8. Not always about being "cute" by Lockejaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the biggest flaws of text-only communication is that it doesn't include the "side-channel" of body language. A sentence sent as an instant message or email might fit well with many different tones of voice or facial expressions, and that can affect both the meaning and the likely reaction to it.

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    1. Re:Not always about being "cute" by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the biggest problems with text based communication is that people simply can't write well.

      It is perfectly possible to convey humor, sarcasm, or irony with text, plenty of authors did so well before the electronics age.

      That said, there are two solutions, if it is an informal and won't be distributed, include the damn smiley. If it's serious or formal (even if you're making a sarcastic comment to your boss,) take the time to make sure your email conveys what you want it to convey. If you can't express what you want in type don't.

      The standard cop out that something doesn't translate well to text is bull. Jonathan Swift didn't complainabout how hard it is to write effective satire, nor does Garry Trudeau for that matter.

  9. +5 Insightful by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Informative

    I once had one of my (less astute) bosses come to me and ask me about email styling. Specifically, he wanted to know if the guy was YELLING at him in the email. The problem? The email was written in 18pt, Dark Brown, Comic Sans font. Obviously the (fairly important) guy used it as his standard email style. Of course, the more amusing part was that this boss "joked" that I had too much time on my hands because I knew Comic Sans on sight...

    Though I have to say that the only thing more annoying than seeing Comic Sans in an email is seeing one of those hideous background templates. No, I don't want to see your email decked out in roses. No, I don't want to read your email in blue text on black background. No, I don't want your 4pt font that matches your "professional" faded background. Black on white, 10-12pt font works fine, thankyouverymuch.

  10. I wuv you! by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 4, Funny

    A few years ago, I received an email filled with bouncing hearts from a person at a client company. WTF?!? I had no idea who this person was. I didn't recognize the name and knew I'd never communicated with her in any way in the past. I sent her the information she'd requested being careful to use the most neutral, professional prose I could muster. Then I looked at the code on her email and saw it was pulling images from one of those "free emoticons" sites. Turns out she'd installed a toolbar that added a bunch of crap to all of her outgoing emails. It was early February so it was adding valentine hearts to everything. Sure enough, after valentine's day, it switched to shamrocks. Apparently someone told her about it because the graphics disappeared before switching to bunnies and eggs.

    1. Re:I wuv you! by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Of course, it's always possible that she -knew- those were there and thought they were cute. Some people honestly don't realize that some things simply aren't done.

      For instance, when I first joined this company, they had an employee (very nice, very good with customers) that absolutely refused to stop typing emails in all caps. After several customers had complained and every manager above them had had a talk with them, the owner had a talk... It ended in a screaming fit and I never did figure out if they quit or were fired. They simply could not accept that they were being rude, no matter how many times they were told so.

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  11. Re:Informal usage only by dj_tla · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Sir, I am absolutely flabbergasted that you would insult my intelligence with such incoherent dribble."

    Formal:
    "I should hope you mean drivel, good sir, for I am neither slobbering like a hound nor partaking in a rousing game of basketball!"

    Informal:
    "lol, lern 2 english"

  12. HAHA I HAVE YOU ALL UNDER MY CONTROL NOW! by Broken+scope · · Score: 4, Funny

    (.Y.)

    damnit /. This font doesn't do it right.

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  13. Re:Ms. Feldman needs to STFU and GBTW. by Fozzyuw · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's supposed to clarify the state of mind of the sender!

    ( o )_( o ) ... opps, Freudian slip.

    'I mean, it's ludicrous," said Ms. Feldman, 25. "I'm not going to feel better about losing hundreds of thousands of dollars because someone puts a frown face to regretfully inform me.'"

    A future copy of The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, that slipped through a worm-hole, had this to say about Ms. Feldman...

    Ms. Feldman at age 26, sued a former employee for sexual harassments due to lewd child-like graphical images, know at that time as "Emoticons". When a said former co-worker sent her an email with what he said was an arrow pointing at an important piece of information.

    Claiming that was clearly a penis and not an arrow and that such combinations of characters show the posters state of mind, she did not much appreciate the overt suggestions thought that $10 millions dollars should make her feel much better.

    Since then, all business replaced standard keyboards with interface boards that had specific words and generic phrases on them that only allowed a user to write back using those specific works, avoiding any further use of "emoticons" in the work place.

    Coincidently, work productivity grew more than 500% as people stopped using Email at work.
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  14. Emoticons == The New Punctuation by redelm · · Score: 3, Insightful
    After many years of dismissing emoticons as silly frippery, I have reluctantly concluded they can serve a function as important as punctuation: to convey intend tone in electronic messages which are often highly abbreviated and telegraphic.

    Many flamewars have raged because someone missed humor or sarcasm.

    OTOH, it is easy to overdo emoticons and they should only be used to clarify meaning. I can see use for smilies, but my imagination doesn't stretch so far as to conceive a situation that needs a frownie or others. When used redundantly, emoticons can be insulting: how else am I supposed to feel?