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RIAA Backtracks After Embarrassing P2P Defendant

Harmony writes "When the RIAA sued Sgt. Nicholas Paternoster, it included a screenshot of a shared folder with over 4,600 files — some of which were pornographic images unrelated to the case. Last week, the RIAA got permission from a judge to, as a 'professional courtesy,' swap out the original exhibit for one with only the 350+ songs the defendant is accused of sharing on Kazaa. The RIAA's carelessness may come back to haunt it, however: 'After the suit was filed — and the exhibit made public — Sgt. Paternoster decided to fight back, filing a counterclaim accusing the RIAA of violating his privacy and seeking to "shame Counter-Plaintiff... into giving in to their unreasonable demands regarding their copyrighted materials."'"

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  1. Better article by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 5, Informative

    The linked article is pretty light on content. It does have a link to this article which actually goes into detail about the countersuit.

    1. Re:Better article by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Funny

      "We try to be fair and reasonable in resolving these cases," said RIAA spokeswoman Cara Duckworth. "Our aim is not to be in court, but to seek appropriate retribution for the damage done to the industry." Duckworth then resumed dusting and polishing each gold coin in the RIAA's money bin.
    2. Re:Better article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "We try to be fair and reasonable in resolving these cases," said RIAA spokeswoman Cara Duckworth. "Our aim is not to be in court, but to seek inappropriate retribution for the damage we have done to the industry, from innocent parties."


      Fixed + she muttered a few words under her breath the reporter apparantly didn't notice.
    3. Re:Better article by BoberFett · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Interesting choice of words too. They're not interested in compensation. They want retribution. I have a feeling if they could extract the payment in blood they'd take that route.

  2. New plan by Tabernaque86 · · Score: 5, Funny

    1)Download lots of porn
    2)Download handful of songs
    3)Wait for RIAA
    4)File a counter-suit
    5)PROFIT!!!

  3. Corporate Security Police by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope Paternoster's lawyers force the judge and the RIAA to go on record as violating evidence rules, and show damages for those porno files that are not evidence of any crime.

    The RIAA, and any other complainant (like you or me, if we file a complaint) has to identify the "stolen" property in specific detail, and the police must seize only that property under a specific court order.

    The police state tyranny of extorting suspects by confiscating all their property they need to live and work was already in violation of our rights protected by the Fourth Amendment. Corporations using the police as a mercenary army is fascism: government by, for, but not of, corporations. Using coercion and intimidation as the fear to enforce corporate government "discipline".

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  4. RIAA's ideas of property and ownership by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Looks like RIAA is to goblins, what muggles are to wizards. Their (RIAA's and goblin's) idea of property, ownership etc are remarkably similar.

    In The Deathly Hallows by JKR there is this conversation: (nah, it is not a spoiler. Don't worry.)

    "You don't understand, Harry, nobody could understand unless they have lived with the goblins. To a goblin, the rightful and true master of any object is its maker, not the purchaser. All goblin-made objects are, in goblin eyes, rightfully theirs."

    "But if it was bought ---"

    "---then they would consider it rented by one who had paid the money. They have, however, great difficulty with the idea of goblin-made objects passing from wizard to wizard. [snip] I believe he thinks, as do the fiercest of his kind, that it ought to have been returned to the goblins once the original purchaser died. They consider our habit of keeping goblin-made objects, passing them from wizard to wizard without further payment, little more than theft."

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  5. Professional Courtesy by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 5, Funny

    What the fuck?

    "You're honour, here is the gun the defendant used to kill Jane Doe"

    "That looks like a hammer"

    "Oh, shit. I can swap it for a gun?"

    "Sure thing, let's call it a "Professional Courtesy"

    1. Re:Professional Courtesy by jma05 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Huh! Not a good analogy. Your analogy implies that they presented completely wrong evidence. They did not. But they did include along with the valid evidence, other stuff that may damage the defendant. And RIAA may further argue that the folder was presumably willingly made public by the user (who they they at that time did not know was different from the defendant) and therefore could not assume that the constituted private information.

  6. err by Vexorian · · Score: 5, Funny

    "We try to be fair and reasonable in resolving these cases," said RIAA
    I also try not to infringe copyrights.
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    Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
  7. Re:Possession a crime? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have to understand that they're crapping their pants at the potential loss of the bulk of their revenue generation. Digital distribution is the end of the gravy train for them; no more surge of customers buying the same content every time they change the format.

    So what do they do? They try to kill it, whether it's trying to shut down web radio through massive fee increases, trying to stifle online music sales through use of restrictive DRM schemes, trying to prevent CD copying through hugely invasive software installs, or trying to stifle "free" file sharing by intimidation through massive lawsuits.

    Their goal isn't to protect their content, their goal is to protect their revenue stream, which means intimidate the bulk of the sheep to the point where they'll go out and buy the content...preferably more than once so they can listen to it on multiple devices.

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  8. Screenshot as evidence by huge · · Score: 5, Insightful

    RIAA just proved how easy it is to manipulate the screenshots. It doesn't matter if they blurred or cropped the image, it should now be crystal clear even to most tech illiterate judge how easy it is to tamper the screenshots they are proposing to use as evidence.

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  9. Anyone else feeling less bad about pirating? by AngryJim · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been pirating like a maniac for the past 8 years or so. I've got around 500 albums on my computer that I've never paid for. I used to feel bad about it in the past, but I'm having mixed feelings at the moment.

    up until about 2 years ago, I always intended to legally purchase these cds someday (No, seriously) once I get out of college and into the real world. At ~$15 each it would come to $7500, which I suppose is a lot but spread over a few years, it wouldn't really kill me. The problem is I can't stand to contribute a single cent to the sleazy companies behind the RIAA. On the other hand, I am getting a bit tired of mp3 quality and I'd like to have actual cds to rip into a lossless format.

    Any suggestions? Anyone else feeling the same way?

  10. Re:Possession a crime? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'll play.

    On one hand, we have a guy who downloaded some songs on the Internet, which he presumably then listened to.

    On the other hand, we have a guy who ran an illegal operation on his property, called "Bad Newz Kennels" where fighting dogs were bred and then tortured and killed if they lost a fight.

    One of these things is not like the other...

    Now if Vick had been forcing RIAA lawyers to get into a pit and fight to the death, and then hang or drown the loser, we'd really have something to work with.

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  11. Re:Sue em all by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative
    The list of shared files is public, but the connection between the list of shared files and the real identity of the person sharing can only be obtained with a court order or by the ISP publishing the information (which will almost certainly violate their privacy policy and various data protection laws).

    Publishing the sub-set of this information required for the lawsuit is acceptable disclosure, publishing unrelated information is not. While analogies are often misleading, this one might work:

    Consider a prosecution for producing something like methamphetamine. It would be acceptable for the prosecution to enter as evidence (and thus make public) the information that the defendant had purchased certain precursor chemicals at a pharmacist. It would not be acceptable for them to publish that the defendant had also purchased STD medicines (for example) at the same time, and this publication.

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  12. Re:Wait...wait... by Alizarin+Erythrosin · · Score: 5, Funny

    The fact he was in Germany should mean SOMETHING to the case.
    All it means is that the pr0n listed as being on the computer was probably some pretty whacked out stuff.
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  13. Check the anagram by godfra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "A Porn Tester"

    Co-incidence?! I THINK NOT