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How Pirated Software Impacts Free Software

jmglov writes "Dave Gutteridge has an unusual take on why people are not interested in saving money by using a free-as-in-beer OS like Linux or *BSD: because Windows is free. At least, that is an all-too-common perception, thanks to bundling and piracy. Bundling is a well-known problem to the adoption of open source operating systems, so Dave takes a look at the piracy issue in depth. His title may offend you, but his well-written article will most likely get you thinking hard about the question, 'how much does Windows cost?'"

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  1. Pirates don't hurt anyone by AssCork · · Score: 3, Funny

    it's the swords -

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  2. Windows is free by RLiegh · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...only if your privacy means nothing.

    1. Re:Windows is free by dave562 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Linux is free

      ....if only your time means nothing.

      Ya ya, gimme the karma hit. It was too funny and too easy to pass up.

    2. Re:Windows is free by B4D+BE4T · · Score: 2, Funny

      While we're throwing out anecdotes, here's mine:

      Over the weekend I tried installing Ubuntu on my old desktop. First I tried Ubuntu 7.04. It died trying to boot from the CD and gave an error about not being able to read from the CD. So I figured it was a bad CD. Burned the ISO on a different burner and tried again, same error. Burned it again at the slowest speed, same error. So I gave up and went for the older version, Ubuntu 6.06. Installed OK, but the desktop was stuck at 640x480 resolution. Took a few hours of scrolling through various how-tos and trying a few things like: Plugging the monitor directly into the desktop (not through the KVM switch) and then reconfiguring xorg.conf; updating nVidia drivers; changing various settings in xorg.conf; etc. Finally, after a few hours of messing with it, it turned out I needed to add HorizSync and VertRefresh settings to the monitor section of xorg.conf. Then I was free to select any resolution for the desktop. So now when I open a window, I get to see the whole window!

      Now what did it take to get the same functionality in Windows on the same desktop? Put in Windows CD 1 and select a few settings. Play Xbox. Put in CD 2. Play more Xbox. Done.

      What does all this mean? Nothing. It's just an anecdote.

  3. What? by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pirates are hurting free software? I think we are cutting ninjas way too much slack here.

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  4. Re:Price model by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe this is just tinfoil hat stuff, but could this all be part of Microsoft's strategy? Are they that smart? - no, they are really dumb. They are only making billions while they could be making MILLIONS!

  5. Re:Very true.... by Mattintosh · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ghost had crashed as it finished the last disk, but luckily the disk was readable. How likely is that? Crashed AFTER the the last sector wrote.

    I'd say pretty darned likely. Every time I've ever run Ghost it does that. It must be buggy in the cleanup and exit code. The images are just fine, but Ghost dies with mysterious circumstances every time. Maybe that's why they call it Ghost.

  6. Re:Windows isn't free by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can relate to that. My girlfriend called me a couple of weeks ago and wanted me to install Windows on her daughter's computer. She had just gone out and bought the software. I said that I was 100% sure that she already had Windows on that computer. "No", she said, "Windows isn't on this computer and she needs it to type her resume." Turns out that the computer had Windows and what she had bought that day was Office. And this is a woman who is intelligent enough to date me!

  7. Re:Windows isn't free by Nimey · · Score: 3, Funny

    And this is a woman who is intelligent enough to date me!


    What does that say about you?
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  8. Re:Price model by dave562 · · Score: 4, Funny
    That's an old drug-dealer strategy - the first time is for free, then they come to you with money.

    I want to meet one of those drug dealers. They give me the first one free, then they come to me with money after that? Where do I sign up?!

  9. Re:Very true.... by aichpvee · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Pro level stuff," huh? You windows kids do realize that you sound ridiculous, right?

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  10. Re:Very true.... by dbIII · · Score: 5, Funny

    many people just loose their OEM disk ... How should those people be handled?

    Quite seriously for letting the things out - they could bite some kid or crap on my lawn. If they just let them loose and don't have them on a leash or behind a high enough fence they are a menace.

  11. We must be tough on all forms of piracy by MarkByers · · Score: 4, Funny

    How should those people be handled? Is Piracy still piracy if it's the same version as what was there before?

    Yes, it's absolutely piracy.

    We need to be more tough on pirates and terrorists. In the music industry we use fines of $100,000 per 5MB of illegal pirated contraband. This should be increased to $500,000 per 5MB for Windows because it is such an important piece of software. Since Windows is about 1 GB in size that means we should be fining them about a gajillion dollars per theft. If you have multiple pirated copies then we must treat it as a commercial operation, and then clearly we are talking about *much* larger numbers.

    Once the fine has been paid the pirates should then be sentenced to death by hanging. This is a good way to prevent re-offending.

    I know that some of you think this is a little harsh but we must remember what the world was like when we were too gentle with pirates and terrorists. Do you want events like 9/11 to become a regular occurrence?

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  12. Re:Very true.... by dintech · · Score: 3, Funny

    gives you the option of burning 1 (one) set of restore CD's

    And let me guess, all I need do is send $10,000 to their bank in Nigeria to get the process moving?

  13. My favorite take on this subject... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Admittedly, I missed out as a kid. I never went through the 'I want to
    be a fireman' phase. No endless days are spent in horror realizing
    that, as I approach 30, I will really not become the pilot, policeman
    or professional soccer player of my childhood dreams, for I had none.
    I always envisioned myself still playing with lego all those eons
    later. Since I am a programmer by profession, it could be argued that
    this is actually the case. I will let that subject rest for now.

    It's not that I don't realize that, by saying this, I am actually
    showing the world how pitiful a character I am, sobbing over a
    surrogate lost childhood dream, but I really have to express it if I
    want to feel somewhat sane ever again: I want to join the BSA! These
    are the real men of noble blood, in their shiny uniforms, protecting
    the intellectual property rights of the poor unsuspecting software
    giants, defenseless against the malevolent forces of evil software
    pirates, who are bottom-feeding on these companies' revenue streams as
    we speak, probably within a 100-yard radius of your house!

    Before you think that I am trying to fantasize away years of social
    repression and torment by projecting myself into membership of a
    totalitarian copyright gestapo, let me tell you why I think it is
    important to protect intellectual property rights: If you don't pay
    for criminally bad software through the nose, you will never realize
    how much you are being ripped off! Just think of it! All those home
    users and small offices running pirated copies of Windows and Office,
    they are the silent backers of the Microsoft near monopoly. Let them
    pay $500 on operating system licenses and $20 per seat licenses for
    using email from their WebTV like the rest of us would, had we been
    lobotomized and not running BSD or Linux.

    I went to the BSA website. What an interesting read! Billions of
    dollars of revenue are lost to pirated copies of commercial
    applications. Imagine a world where millions of companies were given
    the choice between actually paying for the odd ten thousand dollars'
    worth of bug-infested agonizing doofusware or going for a quality free
    software solution that isn't being pushed on them like bad cocaine!
    How wonderfully nice does all this software, currently labelled "Not
    ready for prime time yet," actually start to look! Programs that have
    been under development shorter than it took Microsoft to figure out
    that DOS is not a good base line for a graphical operating system
    suddenly look "promising" again. Bliss, I tell you!

    Unfortunately, there is no "jobs" button on the homepage. No mention
    made of job openings, not even for volunteer positions. I would
    sacrifice a weekend every month to this worthy cause of making losers
    pay till they bleed for the executable excrement they so worship! Hey
    guys, if you are reading this, contact me! I want to join your army of
    the twelve monkeys and sail the seven seas to weed out all those evil
    software pirates!

    Also, I want to congratulate Microsoft on their decision to move to a
    subscription system for their software. The best way to make people
    realize that they are being ripped off and spat upon is not just to
    give them crappy applications; The secret is to make them keep paying
    even after they die! The subtle never ending pain is an important part
    of the message and I'm glad Microsoft are realizing this fully now.

    Anyway, be aware that I am now a self-appointed BSA Auditor. Don't
    make me catch you running an unlicensed copy of Windows 2000 or,
    heaven forbid, Exchange Server! I will give you seven days to erase
    the illegal data off your harddrive. On request I will supply you with
    a Linux or BSD CD to recover the lost functionality or the address of
    the nearest Microsoft dealer to quote you on the small fortune you will
    have to pay to better your evil copyright violating ways. Pirate!

    Cheers,
    Pi