DOS 5 Upgrade Video
Every now and then I stumble on something so ridiculous that I have to share it. This is a promotion video to upgrade to DOS 5 obviously made in a different era. Promoting features like mouse support, a graphical shell, and freeing up at LEAST 45k of memory, well, Gimme 5! Did I mention that it's all set to a hip beat? You'll love it. And by "Love" I mean "Stick forks in your eyes".
Because CmdrTaco posted it and IT'S HIS SITE. Go make your own site so people can complain about what you post on it.
"If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
CmdrTaco doesn't own the site anymore. He's only paid to operate it.
I *will* make my own site. With Blackjack! And Hookers! In fact. Forget the site.
Much better than 4. And the memory management did help. I remember with the help of QEMM I was able to get something like 633K free, which was incredible.
The marketing geniuses who brought you this video live on in Redmond. Who else would design a brown media player and name it "Zune?"
I might know what I'm talkin' about, but then again, this is Slashdot...
Can I downgrade to DOS 5 instead? Why, the productivity gains alone would be worth it! And I suspect it's not nearly as bloated as Vista.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4915875929930836239
I cannot get to the video due to my work's security policy, but....
I remember well. Dos 4 sucked. Upgrading to DOS 5 was probably the best upgrade I have ever done from M$!
Of course, DOS 3.4 was fairly stable too!
Coders today are right lazy bastards. 45kb was a lot. You had to think about organising things properly. Today I write code in languages (PHP mostly, some Perl) that hide all manner of management away from you. I'm certain that someone of my Dad's generation who wrote software in the olden days (1960s/70s/80s) would have a fit at some of the stuff I get away with.
We shouldn't laugh at the idea of freeing up 45k, we should thank our lucky stars it's no longer something we have to care about. We have it easy.
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... the artist is "YO! MS Raps".
"Powers. I have them."
I bet MS didn't plan on it sticking around quite as long as that when they made that video!
Well has been redfined. In absolute numbers, the sales were minimal compared to today. The channel was also a lot slower, so manufacturers continued bundling older releases (all through the fall of '91, at the very least).
so here's the Youtube version.
Well, back to rejecting software patent applications.
Do you always take your dick off before you offer a rebuttal?
"Every now and then I stumble on something so ridiculous that I have to share it."
Nah, too easy.
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1. I'm sure the little animation of the hammer smashing the computer has actually played out in millions of households since the release of that video. 2. Those girls are probably still asking, "Would you like fries with that?" to this day.
And by "Love" I mean "Stick forks in your eyes".
Oh great, I can still hear it, but now I can't find the close window button. You bastard!
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Seriously... that is how they beat OS2.... IBM... if you couldn't beat that you deserved not to win the OS battle.
Hey it's better than the 12, count 'em, 12 consecutive non-stories posted by kdawnson that are on the frontpage right now.
After replacing it, I couldn't find her XP disk, so I just installed Ubuntu on it.
Her first response on logging in? "This is crap, it's brown."
20 years from now, people are going to be laughing as hard and reminiscing at our current technology and ads for it.
"4 GB of memory, lol, amazing they could do anything with that!! Coders must have been gods back then to get any performance out of those machines. I miss those days! Sigh...."
Back in the days of DOS 5 and 6, freeing up this much memory really was a big deal. I was trying to run some BBS software at one point (I want to say Renegade, however its been a very, very long time). The program refused to run without something like over 500K of conventional memory available, maybe more, and there didn't seem to be anything I could do to get it available.
After lots of research, I found an advanced book that talked about a small 'bug' in MS-DOS' EMM386.EXE extended memory manager. EMM386 had a flag that let you include specific blocks of memory to include. For some reason, if you tacked on the A000 memory range, rather then adding this block into extended memory, it would tack it onto the end of conventional memory. Even better, any available sequential block after A000 could also be included, and it would get added as conventional memory as well as long as it was not in use.
This was hit or miss, as some systems part of the AXXX memory range was being used by the actual video card. However, IIRC more advanced video cards didn't touch this portion of memory any more. The result? Adding something like the following to config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.SYS I=A000-AFFFF
Tacked on quite a bit of extra conventional memory. There was nothing like running the command to show memory usage (and its been too long, I don't even remember what this was at this point) and seeing >750K of conventional memory available and being used.
Ahh, memories...
One of these days i'm going to find this 'peer' guy and reset HIS connection!
My parents told me about this. They called them "sucka MC's".
If an officer ever threatens to taze you, say you have a pacemaker.
If you can stand listening through to the finish, somewhere near the end they talk about selling this upgrade with new systems, and how every system purchaser will want one, like "do you want fries with that?" So this was obviously targeted at sales reps the dealer channel. I used to work in computer sales right about the time of this video, and we always received tons of stupid sales promo videos like this.
Ahh, the memories. The horrible, horrible memories. Excuse me while I crawl under my desk, rock back and forth and weep softly.
Well, it has never been successfully tested.
It was also the death knell for Stak Electronics with the release of DriveSpace in 5.
It is amazing how hyped corporations get over this crap. The whole part on how much money corporations would make never really transpired. It really translates into the money Microsoft made.
As far as advertising goes, this one sucks!
This is a sig. This is only a sig. Had this been an actual sig you would have been informed where to tune for more sigs.
The big news will be when MS goes after the video poster for pirating its Intellectual Property. DOS 5 sales have plummeted worldwide, and displaying this video is clearly a contributing factor. I'm surprised they haven't triggered GPFs on any Windows box attempting to play it.
Behold, this dreamer cometh. Come now, and let us slay him... and we shall see what will become of his dreams.
Funny - I'd consider this story to be "classic Slashdot." Stories like this one are what Slashdot is all about! If you want only serious tech news, well, I'm sure there's a site out there for you. Slashdot isn't it.
You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
Could be DOS 4. (The Windows ME of the DOS series.)
Pretty much everyone I know went from 3.x right to 5.
Paleotechnologist and connoisseur of pretty shiny things.
The possessive does not only refer to ownership. I do not own my mom, but she is still my mom.
Being the founder/creator of something makes the term "his site" appropriate.
Drive space came in MS DOS 6.
Wow, did you actually just say "4 Gig should be enough for anybody"?!?!?
Dud you have NO IDEA where computers will be in 20 years, but one thing that is sure, 4 gig will be NOTHING.
Contrary to popular belief, coding is not all free blow-jobs and beer. Those things cost MONEY!
My bad memory...
DriveSpace was released in 6.2. Could have sworn it was in 5.0 that came with my 386.
Thanks for the correction.
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I've written a blog that will surely make the front page of Slashdot. It is titled:
Top ten list of things that Ron Paul said about Apple products while typing on a Linux computer at an Anti-Iraq war conference.
The reason I don't read Digg often is that I want real, biased, geeky, obscure fact riddled news commented on by opinionated sysadmins!
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The point stands...he's the one who operates it.
I, too, remember making custom AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files to play games on my then-screaming 386SX/20 and 486DX/33.
.BAT and .SYS files I needed to play that naffing game!"
They were not good times. They were tedious, painful, and aggravating times. To this day, when people mention the video game Star Trek: The Next Generation: A Final Unity, I shudder and say "Yeah, and it took me most of a Sunday dialed into the ISP I ran, searching Alta Vista to create the custom
For those reasons alone I was happy to embrace Windows 95 games. They made my life sane again.
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HA!
You would never work again...
RS
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
I suppose I'd better upgrade then. I could do with that extra 45kB of memory.
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MS-DOS 5 must have been the last time that Microsoft included a programming language with an operating system, dear old QBasic. Actually, it was in MS-DOS 6 and 7, and by definition Win95 and was what ran when you typed 'edit' at the command line. Still, how many hours were wasted throwing exploding bananas at gorillas on skyscrapers? I was so much simpler then.
Heh. And DriveSpace was the death knell for my 500 MB hard drive when I was poking around in DOSShell...
What is this 478 MB file doing on my F drive? I need to get rid of it. <reboot> Oh crap...
-Rob
Biblical fiscal responsibility
That was just cruel. Cruel to the poor schmucks who were in the videos. Cruel to us who watched even a small part of it.. I can feel my brain bleeding...
Lets hope that isn't the song that's going to get stuck in my head for the rest of the day..
(Gimme 5, whoo, gimme 5, whooo)
Oh god.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
On topic:
Yeah, this article is news or, rather, it's appropriate for slashdot. It's a bit of classic nerd stuff, a walk down memory lane, if you will. And it serves to remind us of a time when Microsoft wasn't hiring pro marketing companies to do slick ad campaigns. (Although some companies were, Apple used Chiat \ Day for the famous 1984 Macintosh Superbowl commerical.)
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
the LOADHIGH and DEVICEHIGH options in config.sys. They were like a dream come true.
Why is Bob Saget in DOS training?
RTFM, Bob.
My sig sucks.
You're right about that, but then, I still don't see why people shouldn't be allowed to say that the story is lame.
I do not own my mom, but she is still my mom.
Your loss is my gain dude!
Kill me! Now! ahhhh! my eyes!
Hey Ritchie... we forgot our frisbee at home again and have nothing to do for lunch break. Can I borrow that disk again?
You laugh. But those 5.25" disks really can fly. It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye.
If you believe everything you read, you'd better not read. - Japanese proverb
Yes, they should, but they should also be able to say that the complaining comment was lame. However, I draw the line at complaining about a complaining comment. That's just taking the whole free speach thing too far.
So that's why there are so many pointless and inane comments on here... it's not that people are boring and uninteresting, it's just that they're trying to raise their ownership stake in the site by increasing their percent share through posting whatever pops into their head!
New around here, aren't you?
Oh, I don't know - I found that once you had them set up for an Origin game, you could run pretty much everything else. The only decision was whether or not to load the mouse driver, and then every so often you had to screw with the number of Files and Stacks (iirc) to get something to run.
LOL
Your both just pair of old jaded slashdot wrinklies.
Do you sit around in virtual rocking chairs of virtual porches slagging off these damn kids?
I dont read
I'll just Copy that floppy