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HP's Inkjet Technology Used to Administer Drugs

jedrick conner writes "Hewlett-Packard's microneedle technology, used in its inkjet cartridges, could soon be used in transdermal patches to deliver a time-controlled release of drugs to patients. Still at the prototype stage, the patch will likely be 25 mm square in size and 3 mm thick. It will incorporate an array of microneedles that are between 75 and 100 microns, which will penetrate the top dry layer of the skin, also known as the stratum corneum. Above the microneedles is an array of wells, [and] those wells can hold one or more drugs, the device has "an active mechanism to push the drug through the needle"."

113 comments

  1. Can't wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can't wait till we see the black-market "refill kits" for these.

    It's... getting... sooohoho... coooold.

    1. Re:Can't wait by PoliTech · · Score: 1
      Black Market? I keep thinking of the government issued tattoo, Idiocracy style.

      Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhvOja6QfkA

      And there I was all worried about RFID chip implants.

  2. Toner Refills by sweatyboatman · · Score: 5, Funny

    The printer comes free with your doctor's prescription. But it only comes with enough ink for one patch and refills are $1000.

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    1. Re:Toner Refills by kbob88 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's OK. There's a guy down the street who refills the patches for cheap, using no-name brands from China. What could go wrong? A little lead paint mixed in with the drug won't hurt will it? It's only my health, right?

    2. Re:Toner Refills by davidsyes · · Score: 1, Informative

      DAMN! I thought this was FUNNY. Too bad I don't have moderator points...

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    3. Re:Toner Refills by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      But it only comes with enough ink for one patch and refills are $1000.

      And every time you clean the printer heads, you get a drug overdose.

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    4. Re:Toner Refills by subl33t · · Score: 1

      You can get them at a reduced price but then the patches will leave an HP watermark on your skin...

  3. Drug Market by cosm · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Timed release heroine. (Drug users applaud unanimously). Aids passed through patches. Story at 10.

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    1. Re:Drug Market by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That may not be a bad idea. In order to kick the habit, give people a patch, just like they do for cigarettes with the nicotine patch. Slowly reduce the dose, and eventually, the person isn't addicted anymore. Seems a lot easier than keeping them locked in a room for a couple days while they go through withdrawal and almost die, after which they will probably relapse, because they haven't stop being addicted.

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    2. Re:Drug Market by Anonymous+McCartneyf · · Score: 1

      Yes, but there's more margin for error with nicotine patches. Nicotine is fully legal; even if someone mismanages the timing of his nicotine patches enough that he's effectively using them instead of ciggies, the establishment can live with it.
      The methadone patch, however, would have to be kept on schedule strictly; it's a restricted drug, and there can't be as much leeway to get clear with that. And don't even think of making an actual heroin patch if there are methadone patches!

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    3. Re:Drug Market by bit+trollent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I have been shooting heroine with my Inkjet 550 for several years now. I didn't know that the technology had left the basement.

    4. Re:Drug Market by glittalogik · · Score: 1

      Actually, the patch doesn't penetrate deep enough to draw blood, so using patches like this as a substitute for syringes could be a massive boon to the harm minimisation effort.

    5. Re:Drug Market by Loconut1389 · · Score: 1

      Hey, you're not supposed to put on -that- many!

    6. Re:Drug Market by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1
      What's wrong with heroin? Many terminal cancer patients would love some. However because of inane politics they get only stuff that sometimes does not work for them anymore.

      One day people will wake up and hang the politicians.

    7. Re:Drug Market by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      .. Nicotine is fully legal; even if someone mismanages the timing of his nicotine patches enough that he's effectively using them instead of ciggies, the establishment can live with it.
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      I don't want billions of our money spent to run after those guys.

      Consider it as evolution in action.

    8. Re:Drug Market by wed128 · · Score: 1

      Ok, well then chalk you up as the next guy to get mugged for some junkie's next fix. Maybe it'll be your mom. see the problem?

    9. Re:Drug Market by billybobbubbasmith · · Score: 1

      right, because all the cigarette users are out their mugging people for their next fix... if the drugs were legalized it would increase the supply(and quality) of what was available. even with the taxes they would pile on them, you don't have to worry about paying back you supplier before he sends guido to do some convincing, and he doesn't have to increase his price do to high business costs(jail time putting him out of business for a while)...see the solution?

    10. Re:Drug Market by Anonymous+McCartneyf · · Score: 1

      Trust me, if you post on Slashdot, odds are high that you're not the establishment.
      I meant the people spending billions on DEA operations. Whether you approve of their actions or not, you still have to account for them, and for those who put them in power.

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    11. Re:Drug Market by eakthecat · · Score: 1
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  4. HP's Inkjet Technology Used to Administer Drugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The drug companies will love it. It will only dispense half the contents before needing replacement.

  5. Damn! Out of Yellow! by kbob88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was doing fine until my anti-psychotic medicine ran out of yellow!

    1. Re:Damn! Out of Yellow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was doing fine until my anti-psychotic medicine ran out of yellow!


      You're lucky. My anti-depressant patch is out of everything except blue.
  6. Tattoos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drugs? How about inexpensive, fast tattoos? Seems like you could use this kind of technology to create your own permanent tattoos at home. Just use the original ink through instead of drugs.

    1. Re:Tattoos by ameline · · Score: 1

      phasm42 simulposted the same idea... (at least within the same minute)

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  7. Tattoos? by phasm42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could this be used to make a tattoo printer? Maybe they could release a laser tattoo remover as well.

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    1. Re:Tattoos? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Could this be used to make a tattoo printer? Maybe they could release a laser tattoo remover as well. Sure, just feed your arm in from the paper tray and up through the pinch rollers.
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    2. Re:Tattoos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess nobody will notice the AC above you who wrote about the same thing.

  8. Drugs will be cheaper than ink... by topham · · Score: 3, Funny

    The drugs will be cheaper than ink, therefor there isn't enough of a market in it for HP.

  9. Tattoos by ameline · · Score: 1

    What about actually injecting ink instead of drugs? Pain free tattoos that take almost no time to apply.

    I think I'll go off and file a patent on this :-)

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  10. It's 1997 all over again by dorpus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember seeing articles in 1997 hyping up transdermal microneedle skin patches. Not much has come of it since.

  11. Obligatory ST:TOS reference by MobyDisk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn it Jim! I'm a doctor, not a printer!

  12. Back in my day by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    We used to print dna microarrays with laser jets. 10,000 genes uphill bothways in the snow. And when someone complained, we beat them half to death and buried them alive in a cornfield. But those were the old days. Not like how you young whippersnappers have it today.

  13. New meaning to "PC Load Letter"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must...cancel...viagra...print job...
    Arrrrgghhhh!!!!

    1. Re:New meaning to "PC Load Letter"... by sethstorm · · Score: 1

      Or for the other one:

      "When the time is ri-PC Load Letter" when it was supposed to be the "right time".

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  14. Artificial Gland by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I could easily imagine this could quickly become a useful method of self mediation. A sort of artificial gland of sorts that doesn't administer based on time, but rather based on biofeedback sensors. The alcoholic choose to overcome his problem by customizing an artificial gland which stimulates a release of pain or possibly general uneasiness once his blood alcohol level begins to rise. A person or criminal with anger management problems the recieves a release of calming chemicals when blood pressure rises to high. Of course, medicine is the perfect place to start, it could work not unlike a pacemaker and administer insulin when a diabetic's levels get low. The possibilities beyond simple timing are immense, give that they can accomplish easy replenishing and ofcourse that (as I assume) the microneedles do not actually hurt.

    Imagine the phrase "Slap a band-aid on it and call it a day" becoming common in the medical community.

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    1. Re:Artificial Gland by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative

      A person or criminal with anger management problems the recieves a release of calming chemicals when blood pressure rises to high. Be careful, you just might end up with either:
      A) People who purposefully work their blood pressure up to get a calming jolt
      B) People who learn to be angry without any physiological manifestations (aka sociopaths)

      I recall reading an article discussing a study of criminals who had gone through anger management. Their conclusion was that the only thing some criminals learned was how to mask their anger from others until it was too late.
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    2. Re:Artificial Gland by davidsyes · · Score: 0

      Butt, will it werk for hemorrhoids?

      What will be scary is if this product makes it into the toilet paper business. Talk about the inkjet business going to shit, the shitter and disappearing into a heap of shit.

      We'll REALLy wipe out the TP supply, I suppose...

      (HEHEHE, captcha: "angling", but I saw "dangling" and dingle*y)

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    3. Re:Artificial Gland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (HEHEHE, captcha: "angling", but I saw "dangling" and dingle*y) Hmmm... to you I would prescribe an artificial sense gland, because clearly you aren't making it.
    4. Re:Artificial Gland by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Sociopaths aren't angry people who hide their anger well enough not to have any physiological manifestations. (As far as I can tell, that's biologically impossible.) Sociopaths are scarier than that--they're people who can feel completely calm and at ease while harming others in ways an emotional person would describe as "vicious".

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    5. Re:Artificial Gland by caluml · · Score: 1

      A person or criminal

      Is a criminal not a person then?

    6. Re:Artificial Gland by ASBands · · Score: 1

      Your ideas are as queer as a clockwork orange.

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  15. Yet More SPAM by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 2, Funny
    You heard it first folks - soon you will be bombarded with SPAM for

    CH3@P R3F!LLS for your TR@NSD3RM@L P@TCH3S


    Yet when you buy the product
    • they leak
    • they clog
    • the "fluid" in the 3rd-party refills simply don't produce the same results as quality/original manufacturer refills
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  16. No DRM! by localman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They better not try to lock them down like with the ink cartridges... I want to be able to refill with the drugs of my choice!

    There's a guy on the street corner who says he'll load it with zizzyjuice for $25 or a blowjob...

    1. Re:No DRM! by eknagy · · Score: 1

      A blowjob worths $25? Sounds like a nice place...

  17. Vista drivers??? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1, Troll

    I am keen to try out this new technology. Will HP be releasing Vista drivers soon?

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    1. Re:Vista drivers??? by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Probably not but feel free to admire their open source Linux drivers while you wait. :)
      http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/

      Yes they are made by HP and are fully featured including scanning and network support.

    2. Re:Vista drivers??? by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      Whoops thats the old url.

      http://hplip.sourceforge.net/ is the new drivers.

    3. Re:Vista drivers??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haaahaaahaaa, it said "penetrate"!

      TAG IT NOW!

  18. accidents? by drakyri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What happens is someone smacks the patch, or you bump into something?

    1. Re:accidents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put the patch somewhere you already do your best not to get smacked or bumped.

    2. Re:accidents? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... But that's where I keep my nicotine patch.

    3. Re:accidents? by jagdish · · Score: 1

      It hurts like hell.

    4. Re:accidents? by Xeth · · Score: 1

      Well, it's just an array of microscopically short needles. If they push hard, the substrate pushes against your skin, and nothing happens. If they shove laterally, a few of the needles might nudge around in your skin. Worst case, you lose a few micrometers of dead skin.

      If you're worried about the wells rupturing, such an event would probably mean the excess drug ends up on your skin. This may or may not be harmless. However, if the drugs could be effective that way, why use needles at all?

      I doubt such ruptures are likely (depending, of course, on what they're made of), given the fact that the surface area/volume ratio is pretty good for such small objects.

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  19. Tinfoil hat comment by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

    How long will it be until this is exploited by criminals or government spooks who want somebody offed?
    It could be used to inject poison, virii, or other nasties.

    1. Re:Tinfoil hat comment by Thomas+Shaddack · · Score: 1

      Already happened. No fancier delivery system than a ricin-soaked pellet shot from an umbrella was used, though.

  20. Prior art by mdemonic · · Score: 1

    I used my printer for this a long time.

    # cat /dev/lsd | lpt0 ...and Im ready to code for another 16 hours

    1. Re:Prior art by Ossifer · · Score: 1

      Dude, what char major, minor numbers are you using for /dev/lsd??!?!

    2. Re:Prior art by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Dude, what char major, minor numbers are you using for /dev/lsd??!?!"

      D'uh! Its an imaginary numnber - rotate your printer 90 degrees from this universe and try again.

    3. Re:Prior art by Ossifer · · Score: 2, Funny

      I assume you mean to rotate around the axis on the astral plane...

    4. Re:Prior art by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 1

      You obviously haven't really been on a trip ... ever ...

      I can tell you, after a blotter, not only you won't be able to code; if you are not used to it, you will be begging for a trip sitter.

      To get you running another 16 hours, a cocaine hit will be the best, but sniffing is nicer, simpler, and less dangerous than needles anyway, so no need to bother.

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    5. Re:Prior art by mdemonic · · Score: 1

      It was supposed to be a (apperently bad) joke, not a confession of my drug habits.
      Cocaine will require several refills to get you going 16 hours.

  21. I predict... by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 1

    ...a Blue Tatoo like scare about how these will be sued to put gradeschoolers on LSD.

    Or perhaps an actual attempt to do so by some moron.

    1. Re:I predict... by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

      Nah, DMSO works just fine for LSD. Just read the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. But I don't think a gradeschooler would stand still while a stranger straps this to them.

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  22. Inkjet tech, huh? by jesdynf · · Score: 1

    And here I thought there wasn't anything they could put in those cartridges more expensive than printer ink.

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  23. It's just like what we have now by User+956 · · Score: 2, Funny

    and refills are $1000.

    so it's very similar to a regular inkjet printer then, isn't it?

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    1. Re:It's just like what we have now by davester666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      and refills are $1000.
      so it's very similar to a regular inkjet printer then, isn't it?
      Only these refills are a lot cheaper than regular inkjet refills.
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    2. Re:It's just like what we have now by indifferent+children · · Score: 1

      No, the only way that HP could find a substance more expensive than inkjet ink, was to team-up with Big Pharma.

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    3. Re:It's just like what we have now by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      Thanks for explaining the joke, I didn't get it at first.

      </sarcasm>

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  24. Hey, asshole moderator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To the asshole who came through and moderated a whole bunch of ON-TOPIC jokes "offtopic" -- fuck you. I have counteracted every single one of your mods. Have a nice day, dickweed.

  25. How does this differ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does this differ from some of the other devices on the market that do the same thing - like Insulet's Omnipod?

  26. inkjets heat the fluid by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The way inkjets work, they heat a micro droplet of the ink so much so that it emerges from the nozzle explosively and hits the paper. I wonder how much of the potency of the delicate drugs would remain after they have been subjected to so much of pressure and heat. Would they react with the metal/plastic in the nozzle?

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    1. Re:inkjets heat the fluid by triffid_98 · · Score: 1
      Well, that's not strictly true. That's the way an HP inkjet works, Epson printers use micro-piezo nozzles, IIRC that's also the nozzle type on my Canon i960.

      The way inkjets work, they heat a micro droplet of the ink so much so that it emerges from the nozzle explosively and hits the paper. I wonder how much of the potency of the delicate drugs would remain after they have been subjected to so much of pressure and heat. Would they react with the metal/plastic in the nozzle?
    2. Re:inkjets heat the fluid by Captain+Vittles · · Score: 1

      That would be something studied during the approval process for a particular drug when adapted for this particular dosage form. It's a good question to bring up, but it will definitely be answered with time and research.

  27. I'm screwed! by Hanging+By+A+Thread · · Score: 1

    My perscription plan will only pay for Lexmark.

  28. Re: HP's Inkjet Technology Used to Administer Drug by scoot80 · · Score: 1

    Thats ok, just shake it around, put it back in and ignore that "Your ink is about to run out" message. When your arm starts getting faded, you replace it (the cartridge).

  29. I walk into my doctors office to get a shot. by IzanbardPrince · · Score: 1

    Doctor: "PC LOAD LETTER! What the hell does that mean!?"

  30. A mosquito patch... by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

    Hmm, micro-needles is something any outdoorsy person can relate to - Noseeums anyone?

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  31. The material is the key... but it will still fail. by jmil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Transdermal drug delivery has been around for ages, as well as microfabricated needles. For a recent state-of-the-art, see:
    http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/100/24/13755

    The main problem (most of the physical fabrication issues have been overcome) is that almost any material used to fabricate the needles will quickly be recognized by the immune system, which will not only attempt to push the needles out but will also form a "fibrotic capsule" around the needles, preventing them from dispensing drug. How does HP intend to get around these problems? Smoke and Mirrors! This is the grand challenge of transdermal drug delivery, and it doesn't look like HP has gotten much further at all.

    Additionally, I don't know about the (rest of the) heathens out there, but I wouldn't want needles permanently implanted in my arm, leaving my insides exposed to the outsides (and how do they plan to control backflow [i.e. bleeding] or prevent blood clots from blocking the needles, by the way??).

    A much more promising approach for transdermal drug delivery is actually ballistic injection of (gold) (micro or nano) particles through the skin that are decorated with the drug of interest. This is reminiscent of Star Trek because it's an old idea that is based on some solid science. It might even be possible to use this for ballistic injection of DNA for vaccines, without having any of the drawbacks as described above for microneedles. Ask Dr. Google or see:
    http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/iel5/7218/19491/00900385.pdf
    and even better:
    http://www.nature.com/nri/journal/v5/n12/full/nri1728.html

    You also have to keep in mind that the skin MUST be properly disinfected before either microneedles are implanted or ballistic injection is performed, otherwise you may introduce bacteria or other nasties into you deeper dermal layers (does anyone remember flesh eating bacteria?).

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  32. Blue screen by flyingfsck · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm, this puts the Blue Screen of Death in a whole new light.

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  33. refills by Ydna · · Score: 1

    I don't suppose I'll be able to use generic refill cartridges on this.

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  34. Usage monitoring by GaryOlson · · Score: 1

    Will WebDrugAdmin send me email when I am low?

    If I eat too many cheap donuts, will the patch jam with cholesterol?

    If the patch does not deliver enough medication, can I take it off and slap it back on harder to make it work?

    Can I buy a patch duplexer option which will let me turn the patch over and use the other side?

    Since the device will probably be set by default to deliver the maximum amount of medication thru every needle port, can I use WebDrugAdmin to change all the default settings to something more economical?

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  35. Dude!!! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    Dude! You're getting a De... ummmm, HP?

  36. Sounds like Neuromancer by Bionic_Baboon · · Score: 1

    "Case watched as she tore the bubble away, peeled the derm from its backing, and smoothed it across his inner wrist. The drug hit him like an express train"

  37. Hypodermic, transdermal... by ihope127 · · Score: 1

    So we have hypodermic needles and transdermal patches. What's next? Superdermate bandages?

    1. Re:Hypodermic, transdermal... by MijaDeus · · Score: 1

      Transdermal Paintballs!

      whizzzzzzzzzzzz SMAK!

      Puts Dr. McCoy's sneaky hypospray to shame!

  38. Drug Addict DHTML by Greenisus · · Score: 1



    <body bgcolor = "#000" onload = "window.print()">yes!</body>

    <html>

    1. Re:Drug Addict DHTML by Greenisus · · Score: 1

      oops...

  39. Plus it has prospects in the Tattoo industry by MykePagan · · Score: 1

    Not just drugs, but ink can be delivered with inkjet technology

    Automated, 9-color 300 dpi tattoos?

  40. Transdermal drugs... by JRHelgeson · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think my wife is on Microsoft Birth Control, because every week she has to apply a new patch.

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    1. Re:Transdermal drugs... by therufus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      BOOM! Post of the day!

      Mod parent the f%*k up!

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  41. Dude I'm getting an HP?!! by failedlogic · · Score: 1

    I'd wager the Dell 'dude' kid will live happily ever after as an HP printer sales person (or somewhere in the toner division).

    recall: Dell 'dude' kid lost job for smoking pot.

    Maybe make a sales-couple/team with Eileen Feiss?

  42. Inkjet drugs? by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    Cool, gimme 1200 dpi (drugs per inch, that is).

  43. Sweet by Legion303 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm betting the drugs cost way less than the ink. Any takers?

  44. Watch out by polyex · · Score: 1

    I wonder if these things break as often as the HP junk printer I have staring at me unpluggeed in the corner.

  45. Ouch! by akkarin · · Score: 2, Funny

    ERROR!
    Please correct
    skin jam, then
    press enter.

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  46. Laserjet by symes · · Score: 1

    Or even a temporary tattoo with the drug name, date, time and dose. Now that could save a few lives I'd imagine.

  47. Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by ahfoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've made this comment before so I'll just summarize the key points.
            When you get right down to it, the real drug war is, as William Burroughs pointed out, between those who seek euphoria through drugs and those who seek euphoria by controlling other people's access to drugs. It gets painted as a health issue, but really this is not what drives the intensity of the battle.
            The health issuses are almost exclusively about dosage control and dosage methods and don't even get into the issue of whether a person has a right to control their own perception of euphoria. Once you take those dosage issues out of the black market drug game, you radically refocus the argument onto the real issues of control and euphoria.
              You can confirm this mentally by asking yourself what are the symptoms that the drug wars are said to be working to prevent? Fatal IV overdose is the classic example. Disease transmission such as AIDS is another one that isn't really about the drug, be it heroin, cocaine or meth, but the delivery method. Then there are the problems caused by excessive doasage. In many cases the psychotic episodes some drug users experience in which people go temporarily insane and harm themselves or others in a drunk-like rage are due to non-fatal overdoses that would be prevented by a controlled dosage device. These classic icons of the drug wars are all, in fact, dosage issues.
            Once you exclude dosage issues, the only problems you can associate with drugs are related to the fact that they are illegal. Indeed, these two issues are intimately related but the people who get their best high off of controlling other people enjoy separating these two issues.
              If you had reliable dosage control and you reduced costs through decriminalization the real issue would emerge which is that there is simply a large segment of the population that craves control over other people's lives in much the same way a junkie craves heroin. Our society is infected with control addicts.

    1. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by icepick72 · · Score: 1
      seek euphoria through drugs and those who seek euphoria by controlling other people's access to drugs

      The second part of that statement is absurd. It describes Dr. Frankenstein not health practitioners. I seems to reason that William Burroughs was on drugs when he theorized he was being victimized by the health care community.

    2. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't it the conservative electorate and the politicians acting through them that enforces this control? It wasn't a group of medical doctors who sat around and came up with the DEA, was it?

    3. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by AdamHaun · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The health issuses are almost exclusively about dosage control and dosage methods and don't even get into the issue of whether a person has a right to control their own perception of euphoria.

      People don't control their perception of euphoria, their perception of euphoria controls them.

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    4. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by timbck2 · · Score: 1

      People don't control their perception of euphoria, their perception of euphoria controls them.


      (lame)

      But only in Soviet Russia!

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    5. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the GP was referring to the government regulators and/or the companies that profit from drug patents/control. Most notably companies that adjust dosage forms like instead of 1 a day blah, we now have 1 a week blah... they successfully get patents on them and the formula. Even though they just adjusted the intert ingredients of the pill. It's money honey!

    6. Re:Indeed, it's the end of the drug wars. by zobier · · Score: 1

      The health issuses are almost exclusively about dosage control and dosage methods and don't even get into the issue of whether a person has a right to control their own perception of euphoria. People don't control their perception of euphoria, their perception of euphoria controls them. O.K. so make it an issue of whether a person has a right to be controlled by their perception of euphoria.
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  48. Re:The material is the key... but it will still fa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's just me but I would think the microneedles would normally not be in the skin. Instead they would "fire", penetrating the skin and injecting the drug more like a 9/24-pin printer.

    Is that not how this works? I can't imagine pushing on a patch with hundreds needles all penetrating your skin at the same time. That would hurt, microneedle or not.

  49. Milton the Monster by Circlotron · · Score: 1

    Just don't hold your cellphone too close to it.
    dzzzt. "Whoops! Too much!"

  50. Prior art includes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a bong made out of an old DeskJet 3320.

  51. Greater efficiency at punching holes through by crovira · · Score: 1

    your skin still doesn't make it ideal.

    If you want to achieve real efficiency, use the large permeable you just took a breath through. Its MADE for it and doesn't need needles (sorry HP.)

    And it DOES transfer pharmaceuticals.

    Just ask the companies that make inhalers, (and tobacco companies [or pot farmers,]) lungs work great.

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  52. Re:The material is the key... but it will still fa by DemonXstreeM · · Score: 1

    so what is to happen when the body start to reject the bits of gold?

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  53. Re:The material is the key... but it will still fa by jmil · · Score: 1

    Interesting question, but gold is 100% biocompatible, and will NOT ever be rejected by the body. Unlike silver, there have never been reports of gold eliciting an immune response (which is why gold teeth were so common a few hundred years ago, and gold continues to be used for dental applications). There are gold nanoparticles that you can drink as a cocktail that are supposed to promote your health, and also don't forget excellent drinks like Goldschlager:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldschläger
    or decorative, edible gold leaf that decorates meals at expensive restaurants:
    http://itotd.com/articles/477/edible-gold/

    So, in short, gold will not ever cause an immune response. Depending on the size of the nanoparticles, it will be cleared by the liver and kidneys over time, and excreted.

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  54. Re:The material is the key... but it will still fa by jmil · · Score: 1

    Well, they were explaining it with a pumping system, so I do not think it would progressively puncture the skin and then be removed (as this would REALLY cause an immune response... repeated high friction and slicing and dicing of the cells in the way), and it would be difficult to also include a high precision alignment system (you would not want the needles going in at an angle because then they might not ever reach their target depth) for repeated punctures. The size of the needles would be such that it would be really hard to sense the puncture... think of a mosquito, which usually goes undetected by the host. What they are proposing is actually a few hundred to a thousand mosquito-sized needles, so hopefully they would not hurt when puncturing.

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  55. Question about this by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    Do you have to download 750MB of crap software that loads a dozen drivers into your body to "manage" your needles in order to use this?

    Thanks, but I'll wait for the Epson "needles"...

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  56. Re: HP's Inkjet Technology Used to Administer Drug by SPEEDY-20 · · Score: 1

    Can you just think what thier lawers will do when this sustem "goofs" puting out to mush med. and kills someone ?