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Home-made Helicopters in Nigeria

W33dz writes "A 24-year-old undergraduate from Nigeria is building helicopters out of old car and bike parts. Mubarak Muhammed Abdullahi, a physics student, spent eight months building the yellow model seen on yahoo or on Gizmodo using the money he makes from repairing cell phones and computers. While some of the parts have been sourced from a crashed 747, the chopper contains all sorts of surprises."

319 comments

  1. Ay AY yay caramba! by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Informative
    Knowing a little bit about the many safety and quality control measures required to build a barely acceptable helicopter, I don't think I'd ever ride any home-made one, not for ten seconds.

    Certain absolutely mandatory items, like X-ray and ultrasonic parts inspections, are not practical for the home builder and are likely to lead to a very short trip.

    1. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yeah - one of the 'surprises' it contains will almost certainly be the last for someone on board or in close proximity to the thing.

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    2. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The safety record of air travel in Africa is already so bad that it can't get any worse. But seriously, the first inventors of powered flight fearlessly went up into the air, and nowadays we know so much about flight that it's probably safer than that first generation.

    3. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Chineseyes · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet. You can jump to safety in case of an Emergency.

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    4. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Funny

      A stepladder is provided as part of the safety equipment.

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    5. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by nizo · · Score: 1

      Yeah; jumping out with a whirling blade turning into shrapnel overhead sounds like loads of fun.

    6. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can jump to safety in case of an Emergency.
      ... only to be shredded to pieces by the blades of your helicopter keeling over.

    7. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Galaga88 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hell, that's only 1D6 falling damage. I imagine he's at least a second level expert if he can build that thing, so he should have the HP to survive it easily.

    8. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Chineseyes · · Score: 2, Informative

      -> Joke -> 747 -> Clouds -> Birds -> Home made helicopter flying slightly over your heads -> YOU

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    9. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I don't think it's much different of the beginnings of flight in the States and many other countries.

      It particularly reminds me of the Argentine inventor Augusto Cicare, who learned aerodynamics and helicopter design by trial and error.

      http://www.helis.com/timeline/cicare.php
      http://www.cicare.com.ar/index.htm

      In the first link there is a picture and movie of the SVH-3 trainer, which is a grounded helicopter that performs like a real one. Without any sophisticated virtual reality system heo made a exact physical representation of helicopter flight. And it's perfectly safe.

      Sure this guy would find helpful to use high-tech methods of fabrication and inspection, but there is a lot of things you can do even with limited resources. Good luck to him.

    10. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I fully agree: you would not ride in one of these for 10 seconds ;-)

    11. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 1

      Well he did use a Honda engine. So we know the engine won't die in mid flight.

      I can see these guys crashing into the side of an elephant.

      Besides the thing don't get very far off the ground , they said about 15 feet, so I don't think they would die in an accident. Probably some really bad cuts and a broken bone or so , unless those blades go wacky and he hits some people with them.

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    12. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful
      Turn in your nerd licence, son. This is about hacking. Not breaking into computers, but hacking.

      You kids today are pussies. You think the Wright brothers had X-rays or modern safety equipment? You have to die from something, it might as well be the same way you lived - as a nerd.

      "The brave may die, but the coward never lives."

      Fuck you.

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    13. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, that's because of something very much like opportunity cost. If you recall from economics, if you invest your money with a return of X, when you could have invested it with a greater return Y, then you have in effect incurred a cost of Y-X. Let's say the first investment was a socially responsible investment fund that earned you $1000, and the second was in a profitable rape-the-earth-and-the-poor fund that would have earned you $1500. You just spent $500 for the satisfaction of being true to your values.

      So, think of your building your own helicopter vs. buying one from somebody in the business. For simplicity's sake, let's say that if you pay yourself a reasonable amount for your time, the cost comes out even. In your homemade helicopter, you have a death risk of 1% per thousand hours of flight. In a "real" helicopter, let's say your risk was 0.001% per thousand hours.

      If you go ahead and build your home helicopter, you have just spent 0.999%/hr of "opportunity risk" for the thrill of flying in your own invention.

      I can't tell you whether that's a good "investment" or not. Maybe the thrill means a lot more to you than it does to me. Maybe you were on the fence about committing suicide, so the risk doesn't really mean much other than an end to unbearable indecision. It's up to you to make the calculation. I can say this though: if the thrill of flying your own invention has no value to you, you're a fool to try it.

      On the other hand, the marginal risk calculation may be utterly meaningless to this guy. If having access to his own helicopter is for practical purposes an impossible dream, it makes no sense to upbraid him for not choosing that instead. His calculation is only based on having his own aircraft versus not having his own aircraft.

      Even if it weren't, the project may have utility for him that we can't even imagine. Maybe he'll be the Igor Sikorsky of Africa. Goodness knows small scale aviation innovation is glacially slow in the US because of safety concerns. The cost of Africa developing indigenous technology would seem appalling, but it's up to them to determine if it is worth it.

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    14. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by evilviper · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the first inventors of powered flight fearlessly went up into the air, and nowadays we know so much about flight that it's probably safer than that first generation.

      I don't recall the Wright Brothers' first plane weighing half a ton, and being powered by a 133HP engine...

      Experimenting with powerful engines, allowing for heavy construction, means that any small mistake is going to be much, much more disasterous than it would have been in the old days.
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    15. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      Helicopters are by design safer than a airplane... Experimental Helicopters have been around for along time now, and are very safe. Rotoway's Exec is one if the best if you ask me...

    16. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      Helicopters are, by design, constantly trying to shake themselves into their constituent components with some rather extreme forces.

      The ability to autorotate won't help you if the Jesus Nut lets loose... ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut )

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    17. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by torkus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right. Their plane didn't weigh half a ton and have a 133HP engine. It weigned a bit over 600 pounds and had a whopping 12HP.

      I'm not sure that ligher weight has anything to do with safety though. I can take my 385 pound motorcycle and hit a cement wall at 150MPH after all. I can take a 12HP scooter and hit the same wall at 60-70MPH too.

      Generally you weaken a structure when reducing weight. I'd immagine this helicopter is probaby more sturdy than the Flyer I.

      Keep in mind you can learn more about planes, trains and automobiles (and helicopters) in a 15 minute internet search than the entire world knew in 1903. I bet the second-hand civic engine is more reliable than the flyer I's one-off custom hand built (in a mere 6 weeks) engine.

      Kudos to the kid. He's done what the vast majority of /.ers haven't and probably couldn't. Yes, I'd be hesitant to go for a ride but really. If a kid in Nigeria can build a working helicopter it shows how pathetic the rest of the world has become. I'm still stuck riding a train to work every day that's late one out of 15 trips on average.

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    18. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck all that Libertarian jerk off bullshit about opportunity costs. You think a fucking Nigerian college student is going to make enough money to buy a freaking commercially produced helicopter. Get a freakin' life you market obsessed morons. Your "analysis" is fucking inane.

    19. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by evilviper · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure that ligher weight has anything to do with safety though.

      The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky.

      I can take a 12HP scooter and hit the same wall at 60-70MPH too.

      That's because you picked a low enough speed, and a light enough object (humans) that 12HP is just as sufficient as a much more powerful engine. Since there are no speed limits in the sky, the engine power makes a world of difference.

      Put a 12HP engine in this helicopter, and you won't be going very high at all.
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    20. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

      The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky. Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again.
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    21. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      Don't worry. It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet. You can jump to safety in case of an Emergency

      Sure, in an emergency you can jump but jumping to safty is another issue. Not when youa are going to have the whole freaking mess, whirling blades of death, and all come crashing right down on top of you.

      Coodo's for the kid for making a working helicopter, but realistally he needs to get his head out of the clouds and back on the ground. It would be a lot better for him to turn his efforts to making a light weight and reliable tractor. One that is easy to build, cheap to own, and easy to fix. Once nigeria starts feeding it's people then they can think about flying.

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    22. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative

      Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls.

      Helicopters don't fly in a vacuum.
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    23. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by wed128 · · Score: 4, Funny

      The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky Not according to Galileo..
    24. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by wsanders · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, the guy can't exactly grab his Master Card and go down to the ultralight airplane store on the corner like we can in the US and pick up a Rotax engine with a better-than-1-to-1 horsepower to weight ratio.

      I am sure flying at 7 feet altitude in this thing is the biggest thrill anyone in a 100-mile radius can get, so Huzzah! Huzzah! for him.

      A liquid cooled engine is a poor choice for a light aircraft. There have been attempts to use off the shelf automotive engines in aircraft, but they are just too heavy.

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    25. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Belacgod · · Score: 1

      If it's that unsafe, you may not have a choice about riding in it for more than 10 seconds.

    26. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by evilviper · · Score: 1

      Not according to Galileo..

      Helicopters don't fly in a vacuum.
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    27. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      Unless you're using them to launch a Sputnik replica...

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    28. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by d3ac0n · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Helicopters don't fly in a vacuum.


      Aaaaand you missed the point.

      Try googling "Galileo, laws of falling objects"
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    29. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Orange+Crush · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're right. Their plane didn't weigh half a ton and have a 133HP engine. It weigned a bit over 600 pounds and had a whopping 12HP.

      It also had wings. If the engine died, it still might be possible to land softly enough to not get squished. That helicopter will fall right out of the sky or go twirling/tumbling/spiraling out of control and impact the ground/innocent bystanders/flammable buildings/etc. if the engine stalls, a fuel line clogs, the transmission breaks, a rotor snaps off, etc.

      Kudos to this guy for building his own helicopter from found items, but he's going to crash and kill himself and maybe others. If he wants to build helicopters for the government, he should put some of his effort into getting out of Nigeria and getting a job in aerospace. (He's just gotten a lot of free publicity, should be much easier to get someone's attention now).

    30. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Chineseyes · · Score: 1

      but realistally he needs to get his head out of the clouds and back on the ground. It would be a lot better for him to turn his efforts to making a light weight and reliable tractor. One that is easy to build, cheap to own, and easy to fix. Once nigeria starts feeding it's people then they can think about flying.

      Comments like this are why slashdot needs an +1 ignorant modifier. Nigeria's problems are not caused by lack of agricultural technology. There is wide spread ethnic and religious tension that has been going on for decades. Like most of Africa's countries there are factions within Nigeria that were created by European colonialism. These factions are still at conflict today and keep Nigeria from being able to progress due to lack of national unity. Religious conflict between Muslims and Christians in Nigeria also have played a large role in keeping Nigeria from progressing.

      Combine the internal conflict between factions with corrupt governments who misappropriate foreign aid and run up the national debt and you end up with a large portion of the populations suffering and starving. No amount of cheap reliable tractors are going to solve Nigeria's agricultural problems. Combine your logic with what the real causes of starvation in Nigeria are and this guy should give up what he loves to do and what? become a politician? Because it is going to take effective leadership for a country like Nigeria to feed its people not tractors.

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    31. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      "For simplicity's sake, let's say that if you pay yourself a reasonable amount for your time, the cost comes out even."

      Umm...what? Something tells me that no matter how hard this guy worked and 'payed himself for his time' he's not going to be able to incur the same costs as a helicopter which are usually over $50,000 from what I've seen. What kind of helicopter are you suggesting he buy that costs the same as old bike parts and 8 months of work. Let's assume, for the sake of assumption, that he 'pays himself' $10 an hour, which is probably much more than what he actually does but just for the same of argument. Let's also assume that he gets these parts for basically free, perhaps $100 total. That's $14,000 for this helicopter, compared to something like $50,000 for a purchased helicopter...I'd say that if you're calling the costs equal then you're already making a mistake.

      So let's use your same math, he's 'spending' $36,000 and getting a .999% higher chance of it failing, a pretty darn good deal if you don't have a high income, especially when you recognize that there's pretty much no way for him to afford a normal helicopter.

      NOTE: I'm not 100% sure of my helicopter prices, unfortunately Google refused to tell me and the only site I found listed one as $120,000 so I cut it down by more than half assuming there are cheaper ones out there. I've never in my life heard of a helicopter as cheap as a car, and I doubt one exists or it would be heralded as the flying car.

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    32. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      Google Auto Rotation.

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    33. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by infaustus · · Score: 1

      Try googling "terminal velocity," retard.

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    34. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by idontgno · · Score: 2, Informative

      Helicopters don't fly in a vacuum.

      A more massive helicopter won't necessarily have a smaller "frontal area" with respect to atmospheric freefall than a Wright Flyer would, unless the rotors fold and the Flyer's wings don't.

      The only areas in which the relative weight of the contraptions matter would be (A) likelihood of lift surface failure (a heavier airframe might make rotor or wing failure more likely), and (B) impact energy given equivalent freefall impact speed. And the latter only matters for whatever the aircraft is falling onto; for occupants, the part that matters is their own mass and impact speed (in the classic kinetic energy relation).

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    35. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      Ditto kudos to the kid, it's almost like building a helicopter in a frakin garage for Pete's sake. Wish his garage were taller so it could've flown higher than 7 feet =) If Homer or Bart were around, Hey $5 for a demo, and you get a complimentary sticker.

      I look at it this way, he had the idea, limited resources, and to make it a bit of a challenge, let's put the kid in Nigeria! LIke a reverse of Survivor or the parable of the talents, so we should be the last the whine about 'not going anywhere near that thing!' I look at it more as a proof-of-concept. He's pitching his ideas to the government and to others, but they could instead ask, what's your next project, that could be equally promising, and/or worthy of investment.

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    36. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 1

      Autorotation requires the ability to control your pitch. From the article, it sounds like this helicopter relies solely on engine RPM to generate vertical lift using a fixed-pitch main rotor. You'd need to be able to completely reverse your pitch in order to autorotate. So, I'm with the previous poster--lose an engine and come tumbling out of the sky.

      BTM

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    37. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by RaceCarDriver · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You shouldn't make such broad uneducated posts... http://www.sdsefi.com/aircraft.html -- Popular off the shelf (car)motor used in "light aircraft", that is just one example.

    38. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Well couldn't he just use someone else's Master Card to buy it then?

      Or more likely a check made using bank account and routing numbers from a 409 scam. :)

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    39. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      Yea, I remember seeing footage of Igor Sikorsky test flying one his first helos in a suit wearing a bowler hat.

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    40. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by hey! · · Score: 1

      Something tells me that no matter how hard this guy worked and 'payed himself for his time' he's not going to be able to incur the same costs as a helicopter


      I'm glad you got my main point (even though you might not have realized it). It makes sense for him to build because it's a lot cheaper for him. If you, however, as a consultant who can make $100/hour (clearing $75 of profit), it's a different ballgame.

      However, my secondary point was that even if the simple economic costs were a wash, some people would reasonably choose the home built route, while others just as reasonably would not, which is why I posed that hypothetical scenario. It depends on why you want to have an aircraft.
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    41. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      If you have cyclic control, and enough forward speed, you could do it without collective pitch control, but its going to be a rough skid. But from the looks of this guys helicopter, he has little, if any, control over yaw, pitch, or roll.

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    42. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by DaveWick79 · · Score: 1

      Just because somebody has done it, or some people do it, does not lessen the fact that it is a poor choice. They might be cheaper, but two factors, weight and reliability, make these planes I wouldn't want to go up in.

    43. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I have several times. It's popular to build a homemade gyrocopter. The cool part is they continue to fly even after you lose engine power. the rotors continue to spin acting like a wing so you can glide to a safe landing.

      it's really cool to see a car engine get you up in the air. I have also flown in home built aircraft and went underwater in home built submarines as well.

      If the guy building is a moron, the device is not safe. if he has a clue and is fanatical it's typically as safe as a commercial aircraft.

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    44. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by multipartmixed · · Score: 1

      What falls faster -- a pound of bricks or a kilogram of feathers?

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    45. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice Job, Frank T Lofaro, Jr! Equate everyone in the entire nation of Nigeria with scam artists! Good job!

      Will your next trick involve kittens, a burlap sack, some bricks and a river?

    46. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Four_One_Nine · · Score: 1

      Are the 409 scams cleaner than the 419 scams?

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    47. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Thanks for trying, but you are completely and absolutely wrong.

      http://www.contactmagazine.com/

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    48. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      When you are poor your standards can be pretty different. Also, being from Nigeria (and its problems) gives him a much higher tolerance for risk than you have. This is a case of "Necessity is the mother of invention."

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    49. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by RaceCarDriver · · Score: 1
      http://www.protekperformance.com/rv7/engine/index.shtml

      The Subaru is also lighter, quieter, and has much less vibration than the IO-360. It's probably not far from the motor that Lycoming would have come up with if they had an engine design department. The EJ25 makes 165HP in stock form and is well suited to the addition of a magic little device called a turbocharger.
      It's common, safe and efficient and far from a "poor choice". You're contradicting the facts with your opinions.

      You might think the professional pilots flying the stunt planes powered by automotive engines know a thing or two about what they're doing and the planes they're flying...
    50. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      That would be so you can avoid the dangerous part of the flight - the actual landing- by climbing down the last ten feet...

    51. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      So, do you have an opinion on all those homebuilders that are building helicopters without "absolutely mandatory items, like X-ray and ultrasonic parts inspections".

      Moderators, this isn't an informative post. It's a clueless one. Five minutes on Google would tell you that: http://www.prismz.com/helio/

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    52. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by realthing02 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should get back to work instead of postin on /. then.

      The other guy who replied to you is correct, +1 ignorant/ idiot.

    53. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Cally · · Score: 1
      Funny you should mention that. Have you seen the film of an early attempt at a rotary winged aircraft? A tethered bedstead affair, with a chap on what looked like a dining chair strapped in the middle of it all wearing a top hat. He opens the throttle and soars up, up and away! until the ten foot extension limit of the tethers, which immediately brought the craft's ascent to a halt. Alas, the fearless aviator, not having thought of strapping himself to the airframe, continued on his upward movement...

      Hopefully someone will find it on YouTube & post a link..?

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    54. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, maybe you would knowing it only reaches an altitude of 6 feet. Can't get into to much trouble at that 8-). And, he wonders why local government doesn't want to fund it -- the second model should reach 15 feet 8-). I think this is very cool but he really can't be that surprised people don't want to buy a helicopter that flys 15 feet off the ground.

    55. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again.

      This isn't quite correct. If two objects are dropped in a vaccuum, the more massive object will fall faster towards the ground. Why? Because of the effect of the object's own gravitational field. It difference may be far too small to measure, but it is there.
    56. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Cornflake917 · · Score: 1

      Some day, when man can invent mini copters... they can, and they will.

    57. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really do this experiment, you will find that a pound of bricks, just one brick for that matter, will reach ground before a kilogram of feathers.

      This ofcourse only when you don't pack the feathers so tightly they reach the density limit for human perception of comparison between velocities of falling objects.

    58. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1

      409 scam, is that where they take you into a room and spray you with a bleach solution until you submit? Or is it where they make you watch flash websites about products that don't deserve websites?

      Or do you mean 419 scams?

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    59. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by russotto · · Score: 1

      I don't recall the Wright Brothers' first plane weighing half a ton, and being powered by a 133HP engine...
      Perhaps not, but Sikorski's first flyable helicopter was close.
    60. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation, heavier objects DO fall faster than light ones. The reason we can approximate the same rate of acceleration for objects dropped on Earth is because the masses being dropped are negligible compared to the Earth's mass.

      Technically, though, the OP is correct: objects with more mass fall faster.

    61. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      I think this is very cool but he really can't be that surprised people don't want to buy a helicopter that flys 15 feet off the ground

      What about smugglers?

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    62. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by 5of0 · · Score: 1

      Yes. But if you're worrying about that, you should probably calculate air resistance from the negligible amount of air that is in the "vacuum" as well. And the objects' gravitational attraction to each other. Perhaps even the gravity of the moon (assuming we're on earth). And don't forget to make sure you know exactly what the gravity is at that point on earth - 9.81 won't do it any more.

      Of course, I'm sure there's something in quantum mechanics or string theory or something that will screw this all up anyway.

      My point being, don't be stupid. The concept that heavier isn't necessarily faster (yes, there's terminal velocity and air resistance, but you didn't say that, and the blanket statement that heavier == faster is incorrect) is important to the discussion. Gravitational forces that will tweak the final velocity by an imperceptible fraction of a millisecond aren't.

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    63. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by atamido · · Score: 1

      Ah, now that wasn't very nice. TFA says the helicopter has only flown to 7 feet, and the one he is planning will fly to 15 feet. I don't know any helicopter that reaches terminal velocity in 7 feet, let alone 15. Retard.

    64. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by atamido · · Score: 1

      That is interesting. I'm thinking that the sheer production numbers of automobiles help ensure that production flaws in their engines are quickly worked out, and unlikely.

      That said, helicopters are a heck-of-a lot more complex and failure prone than a prop engine plane. I would be extremely nervous about getting into one that was home built, even if I was only falling 7 feet.

    65. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you should get back to work instead of postin on /. then. The other guy who replied to you is correct, +1 ignorant/ idiot.

      Why don't you go fuck yourself?

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    66. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

      Lose an engine and fall 7 feet.

      I just don't understand how he thought building a helicopter was easier than a car. A home-made car would be equivalent to a heavy go-cart.

    67. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by triso · · Score: 1

      Well he did use a Honda engine. So we know the engine won't die in mid flight.
      [...] I think that engine doesn't have enough power to rotate those blades at 150 RPM--let alone 300 RPM.

    68. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by cecil_turtle · · Score: 1

      Weight alone still has nothing to do with it; it's density, or weight / sq. ft. of surface area.

    69. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by gripen40k · · Score: 1

      A paper helicopter? Or perhaps one of those silly seeds that fall from trees.

      But seriously here, autorotation, regardless of how crappy he builds his heli, might just be the thing to save his life should his second hand civic engine cut out.

      Besides, the weight of the object isn't the determining factor, I believe it is how aerodynamic the object is. Am I wright (da duh, ching)?

      heh.

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    70. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I'll bet I know a little more since I came to computers late after working as an engineer and even doing non-destructive and destructive testing for a while. There's a lot you can do with visual inspection, magnetic particle inspection (cheap) or the two part dye you use to find cracks in non-magnetic materials. X-rays and ultrasonic testing are for the bits that you cannot get to any other way in a lot of cases. When that doesn't work you have the old method of building an extra part in exactly the same way and testing that to destruction. It also depends entirely on the design - no casting and you don't get internal casting defects etc.

    71. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I'll makeit a bit clearer - there's a lot of situations even in an modern industrial society going completely by the standards where you just don't need X-rays or ultrasonic testing because you can get to all the areas where you are likely to see problems. In this case an aircraft made of lots of little or thin parts where you can easily get to anywhere you would expect to see a defect. Defects in the raw materials get sorted out in the mill so forging and rolling defects normally don't make it out the door.

    72. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by schnikies79 · · Score: 1

      Most modern helicopters do not have a jesus nut.

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    73. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 1

      Helicopters are by design safer than a airplane


      Ha. A Ha. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

      Helicopters under power want to do one thing, they want to screw themselves into the ground, as quickly and violently as possible, flying one is remarkably similar to balancing yourself on the head of a pin, unless you are always and forever on top of that ball, the ground is going to come up real quick.

      Helicopters without power want do do one thing, which is worryingly less like flying and more like falling, even autorotation means you're going to land in the fairly immediate vicinity without a whole lot of choice.

      A fixed wing aircraft wants to do one thing, they want to fly, doesn't matter if it's got power or not, they still want to fly in a usually stable state, without power your range may be limited but you've at least got some choice (if you're at cruising altitude in an airliner you might have 100 miles of choice!).

      Now helicopters are cool and all, if I could afford it (and didn't have this stupid Type 1 Diabetes) I'd love to get me a PPL-H or even CPL-H, but I'm not about to fool myself into thinking they are "safer" in any way shape or form.
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    74. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by fractoid · · Score: 1

      What falls faster -- a pound of bricks or a kilogram of feathers? A Volkswagen Beetle.
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    75. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      most of Africa's countries there are factions within Nigeria that were created by European colonialism

      You know, I'm really tired of hearing the same old mantra that all of Africa's modern problems were caused by the Europeans'. You liberal fuckers need to wake up and realize that Africa's problems are caused by Africans. The colonial times ended over 50 years ago. Time to stop pointing the finger at ghosts of the past and put the blame square where it belongs.

      Over the past half century there has been trillions of dollars of aid pumped into Africa yet the Africans still live like savages. Africa is home of the untold riches in oil, gold, and diamonds yet billions of dollars a year go into the county with no real return.

      Truth be told colonization was the best thing that ever happened to Africa. The European power brought modern technology and methods to the Africans. The Europeans built roads, modern farms, hospitals and education to Africa. Now less than 60 years after the last African colonies where granted their independence all of that is gone. There is no road system, the railroads lie in ruins, and the farms are destroyed. Starvation and disease that was almost wiped out are back with a vengeance.

      No, Africa's problems are caused by Africans and they are the sole cause of them. My statements still stand. He needs to get his head out of the clouds. The Africans don't need helicopters but they need working farming machines and a decent education system to teach them how to use them.

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    76. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by DaveWick79 · · Score: 1

      The O-360/IO-360 is 180hp and has a 200hp variant. It is used with excellent reliability in several dozen aircraft. The simple fact is that the water cooling system is another point of failure, which I would avoid if possible in an aircraft powerplant. I've not personally heard of stunt planes using a water cooled engine with the exception of the older biplanes with the big watercooled radials. I wouldn't put watercooled engines in the "common" category, they fall more into the "experimental" category, which happens to be the most common application to date. The aircooled variety has a proven track record and while "choice" happens to be an opinion as you pointed out, you opined that the watercooled engines were common, safe and efficient. I think the facts still back up the aircooled engine as a good choice and the watercooled variety as a poor choice. Of course you are welcome to your opinion and I wish you good luck with your plane.

    77. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by belmolis · · Score: 1

      Conflict between Muslims and others in Nigeria and other parts of Africa is not the result of European colonialism: it is the result of Muslim colonialism. Not only did Christianity precede Islam in parts of Africa (such as Ethiopia), but where it didn't, there was often conflict between Islam and the indigenous religions. In Nigeria it is not only Christians who resist the imposition of Islam but the many people who still practice tribal religions.

    78. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by bentcd · · Score: 1

      But seriously here, autorotation, regardless of how crappy he builds his heli, might just be the thing to save his life should his second hand civic engine cut out. Not from a 15 feet altitude. Helicopters have something as non-intuitive as a minimum safe altitude. If they fly higher than this, they're safe because if their engine cuts out they can use the rotors to cushion the fall, but much lower than this altitude and they won't be able to get the spin that they need before hitting the ground.

      Minimum safe altitude is much greater than 15 feet.
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    79. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Chineseyes · · Score: 1

      It must really suck to have ADHD that is so bad that you can't read an entire paragraph, because I did not solely lay the blame on Europeans I also blamed the Nigerians factions and the corrupt governments they support. With that said you would have to be an ignorant fool to not lay some blame on the Europeans for what is going on in Africa right now.

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    80. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      Hey, I got a plan. Why don't you go fuck yourself too?

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    81. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      We would have to disagree, because the thing I like about helicopters is the autorotation I would also disagree that an autorotation is more like falling. If an unexperienced person does it, then you might damage a strut, but a well executed autorotation can put the helicopter almost anywhere in one spot and without any damage. Something that is rare with an aircraft.

      Also, all single engine high performance aircraft suffer from the same major problem, which is if anything goes wrong in the first 1500ft of takeoff, your chances of survival are very slim. Meaning, you dont have enough energy to turn around, and a 120mph hunk of metal does not like to land on anything but an airport... With a helicopter, autorotation allows you to not only live another day, but also most of the time provide minimal damage to the aircraft..

    82. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by piojo · · Score: 1

      The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky. Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again. Only in a system without air resistance. You just try dropping a feather and a brick at the same time. I dare you to tell me they land at the same time.
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    83. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you've noticed, but a brick and a feather are significantly different in both shape and size. The difference in the rate they fall is primarily a result of this, not the difference in weight. Unless something is falling far enough that considerations of terminal velocity come into play the difference in speed between two objects of the same size and shape, but different weights, is minimal. I am pretty sure that no matter how far they were to fall through atmosphere, the differences in aerodynamic characteristics between the Wright Brothers' plane and the helicopter in the article would be more significant than the difference in weight.

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    84. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I can take my 385 pound motorcycle and hit a cement wall at 150MPH after all. I can take a 12HP scooter and hit the same wall at 60-70MPH too.
      You forgot the link to your YouTube video.
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    85. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Jeruvy · · Score: 1

      Helicopters don't fly in a vacuum This is informative? Like the majority thought it did?

      Well, for those of you living in that vacuum...gravity is a constant, not a variable. Thought you should know.
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    86. Re:Ay AY yay caramba! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky.

      Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again.


      my comments
  2. hummm.. by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It may hover in ground effect but I doubt that it can fly out side of it. 133 HP is way under powered for a four seat helicopter. It is a wonderful attempt but I hope he doesn't kill himself. He has talent that is for sure.

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    1. Re:hummm.. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I think it might, but it would be tight. I thought that some of the Bell 47 models had around that amount of HP and were used to carry two + those in the litters as medevac choppers.

    2. Re:hummm.. by tom17 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Nevermind the 4 seats, what about the fact that it's monstrously big according to tfa...

      measuring twelve metres (39 feet) long, seven metres high by five wide. I think someone left their brain off when they wrote that article.

    3. Re:hummm.. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to Wikipedia, the smallest engine ever mounted into a Bell 47 was 200 HP--considerably more than the 133 he's fooling around with.

      Chris Mattern

    4. Re:hummm.. by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      Yes I agree... 133HP is ideal for an autogyro, though.. I am sure he could get 120mph+ if he had gone this route instead....

    5. Re:hummm.. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I think the 47 had at least 200 HP. Not only that but the engine was a nice light aircooled air craft engine.
      Not only that but a 47 loaded with four people would be marginal at best and would be flown by an expert military pilot that actually knew how to fly a helicopter.

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    6. Re:hummm.. by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      Naw, they just hired NASA to do the conversions...

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    7. Re:hummm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sure if you have 4 people in it who are full weight.
      but.
      they sell helicopter kits
      at 130 hp, which are two seaters
      intended to lift two people, 200 kgs a pop.

      so
      its not implausible.
      provided he doesn't have eight billion pounds of steel welded to the frame.

  3. Would you buy one? by BarneyL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Personally if I received an e-mail from Nigeria offering me a cheap helicopter I doubt I'd trust it.
    I think I'll keep saving for my skycar

    1. Re:Would you buy one? by maroberts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dear Sir,

      You have been recommended to me as astute investor. I expert builder of helicopters in Nigeria. I need £20,000,000 (TWENTY MILLION POUNDS) to....

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    2. Re:Would you buy one? by LrdDimwit · · Score: 1

      Dear Sir/Madam, Your name comes two me through mutual acquaintance. I am one son of Nigerian helicopter manufacturer. Due to various circumstances I have acquired plans for helicopter from late father. Can make killing off plans. Am needing only $20,000 (US TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR) for seed funds.

    3. Re:Would you buy one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personally if I received an e-mail from Nigeria offering me a cheap helicopter I doubt I'd trust it.

      I'll just predict that the number of email from people who claim their relatives died in a "ghostly helicopter accident" will increase dramatically...

  4. I WANT ONE! by sproketboy · · Score: 1

    NT required.

  5. Helicopter or Hovercraft? by maroberts · · Score: 5, Funny

    it will be able to fly at an altitude of 15 feet for three hours at a stretch...

    or until it encounters a tree, telegraph pole, house, giraffe....

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    1. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by Tacobowl8 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't the giraffe get out of the way if it hears a big loud thing coming at it?

    2. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a picture that is related but Slashdot isn't an image board so you can't see it.

    3. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by ArAgost · · Score: 1

      Well, a Giraffe that ends up in Nigeria may be dumb enough not to tell a chopper apart from a tree.

    4. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I much prefer the first model... With a maximum altitude of 7 feet, boy will flying over a crowded market make for a great video.

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    5. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by hey! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I dunno. 15' is enough to do useful things you couldn't do with a hovercraft. You could replace the passenger with a pesticide tank and spray crops -- although this is obviously very dangerous

      I'd like to know how he arrived at 15' as a service ceiling. How would the aircraft know the difference between 15' on one day and 30' on day with higher air pressure?

      I expect that he chose the figure for safety reasons. Perhaps the design cannot autorotate; or maybe it cannot achieve a safe and stable descent. I doubt it is because the helicopter rides on a cushion of air like a hovercraft. If anything, I think it's own turbulence would present a problem for it.

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    6. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by Shotgun · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ground effect.

      When a wing approaches the ground, the air that it is pushing on bounces back at it (not technically correct, but the analogy is close enough to envision the effect). Ground effect becomes pronounced at about 1 wingspan's distance from the ground. He could be planning on a 15ft rotor.

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    7. Re:Helicopter or Hovercraft? by atamido · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking you could use one to cover some of that ground that is relatively flat, but not quite flat enough to speed over in a land vehicle. There is a lot of unused land out there that people want to get from one side to the other of. In the US we have a decent freeway system over our flatlands. In Nigeria, they have a decent amount of dirt.

  6. Excellent! by eniac42 · · Score: 1

    I mean, what could possible go wrong..

    Seriously good luck to him, the guy has talent, but I wouldnt ride it..

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  7. Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although some government officials got very excited when they saw him conduct a demonstration flight in neighbouring Katsina state, Nigeria's Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) has so far shown no interest in his aircraft.

    "No one from the NCAA has come to see what I've done. We don't reward talent in this country," he lamented. And here you see the plight of Nigeria and many other countries, they will save money in the short run by buying from a country that already has the infrastructure and expertise to build commodities but they will never take the steps to set that up in their own country. This destroys any chance of the people ever building a stable economy & providing employment for its citizens.

    Nigeria would pay a premium to start up a helicopter plant or to start R&D but since the resources are not readily available and there's already another country selling the choppers, this man will most likely partake in the brain drain and go somewhere where his knowledge and resourcefulness are recognized and rewarded.

    The government should either change its ways or just deal with being known only for e-mail scams and human suffering from inept governance. That's the problem with inept governance though, it usually persists by definition.
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    1. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So what are you suggesting? That they take a one-of-a-kind helicopter made from car, bike, and 747 parts seriously? That they should approach him with tons of cash and beg him to start a helicopter manufacturing plant?

      I'll admit it's amazing that he managed to build it. I'll admit that he has big dreams. I'm not yet willing to admit he's capable of making a safe helicopter, and I bet they aren't either.

      If he really -can- do it, he should be looking for investors, not buyers. He's never going to manage a proper, safe helicopter without a lot more money than he put into his current one. And he's never going to get a buyer until he has a prototype.

      It's like saying, "I've got a small garden at my house. Why won't they pay me to grow cabbage for the whole country?"

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    2. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by werdnapk · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's another amazing example of what you can do with very little. A south african boy makes a homemade paraglider from fertilizer bags...
      http://www.wired.com/gadgets/miscellaneous/news/2007/09/paraglider/

      picture here...
      http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/multimedia/2007/09/gallery_paraglider?slide=1&slideView=2/

    3. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No but sending him to college might be a brilliant start.
      After he goes to college then maybe building helicopters in country could be an option.
      Or crop dusters?
      Or UAVs?
      Or maybe even just a shop to do helicopter maintenance in country?
      The man seems to have lots of raw talent. Now he needs education and opportunity.

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    4. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed, but his attitude is not 'teach me' but rather 'nobody wants to pay me.' It's not helping him any.

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    5. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Loke+the+Dog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Look, you're promoting protectionism and that will keep them poor.

      The Nigerian government should buy the products with the highest value. This will help their neighbors, which will help them. The Nigerian people should do what they do best and what they don't do good, they should import. Pretending there is no world market will kill you.

      There is one good thing about this chopper, though. It proves the value of scrap metal. Scrap metal is in my opinion the best way for the poorest countries without valuable natural resources to become rich. Buy scrap metal, recycle and sell steel. Of course, most of them already do this, and not all can get rich, its a matter of competition, but this is one of the more important third world industries.

      So Nigeria, export steel and buy the best helicopters you can find. Tell this loon to figure out a more effective way of making steel instead.

    6. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by NorthWestFLNative · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the article: "Mubarak Muhammad Abdullahi, a 24-year-old physics undergraduate in northern Nigeria". Looks like he's already in school.

    7. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Cosmic+AC · · Score: 1

      Well, the article says he's a physics undergraduate...

    8. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by mustafap · · Score: 1

      Actually it was ruined by the English.

      Having worked in Nigeria, I can honestly say that everyone I met there could spell better than you.
      So craw back into your cave, troll.

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    9. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Logic+and+Reason · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why should Nigeria build its own helicopters instead of buying them from a country that's already good at making them? That's like saying I should build my own cars instead of buying them from Toyota.

      Nigeria should produce whatever it has a comparative advantage in and trade for the rest, just like the rest of the world does. Attempting to do a little bit of everything would only stunt its economic growth.

    10. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by p0tat03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why did the Japanese start building American-style cars when GM and Chrysler were already good at making them?

      Not to mention that the Nigerian government certainly have their own helicopters, regardless of how poor the country is in general. Can the government stand to save money by developing state-manufactured choppers? Or better yet, can it save money by cutting off their reliance on foreign maintenance crews, and instead training their own?

      Nobody says they have to tackle Sikorsky on the global market, but I'm betting many developing nations would be in for some cheap, fairly reliable helicopters.

      The problem here isn't that the government is inept - they know full well what they're doing. It's just that supporting local industries doesn't improve their lavish lifestyle in any appreciable way - improving the lives of their governed peoples is the LAST thing on their agenda, right beneath "decide what color of Italian leather to put in my new Ferrari". The problem with these "developing" countries is that none are truly developing, they suffer from poor management.

    11. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by magarity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but his attitude is not 'teach me' but rather 'nobody wants to pay me.' It's not helping him any
       
      He's already got an advanced degree; how much more education does he need? He's used that education and now has something to sell - it's infinitely better than the 'nobody wants to give me a free handout' attitude. Sure, he's grumpy about his lack of instant success in marketing said product but that's typical of engineers. I hope he manages to team up with someone with local business savvy who won't screw him over.

    12. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by aicrules · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I made a parachute from an umbrella when I was 6!

    13. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Rakishi · · Score: 1

      Why did the Japanese start building American-style cars when GM and Chrysler were already good at making them? Japan had a large industrial economy since before ww2, they had people trained in engineering and had already built a number of very good designs for airplanes. Likewise shipping cars across a large ocean is expensive and cars don't cost enough to justify it. Furthermore the country had at least a decent internal demand for automobiles. As a result they had at least a local advantage in making their own cars as the costs to do so were low. After that it is only natural to compete on a global scale if the products are good enough.

      Nigeria has none of these.

      Not to mention that the Nigerian government certainly have their own helicopters, regardless of how poor the country is in general. Can the government stand to save money by developing state-manufactured choppers? Or better yet, can it save money by cutting off their reliance on foreign maintenance crews, and instead training their own? Save money? You mean spend a hundred million to save ten million or so in costs?

      Nobody says they have to tackle Sikorsky on the global market, but I'm betting many developing nations would be in for some cheap, fairly reliable helicopters. There is a reason that safe, cheap and reliable are never all true.
    14. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by pablochacin · · Score: 1

      So what are you suggesting? That they take a one-of-a-kind helicopter made from car, bike, and 747 parts seriously?

      Well, this description matches very closely what the first Apple computer looked like and I guess you know what happened with that kid named Steve Jobs. . . I mean, unless you had been too busy fying arround in a helicopter the last 20 years or so . . . .

    15. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by atamido · · Score: 1

      Safety requirements in the US make automobiles an order of magnitude more expensive. With aircraft it is even worse. Producing safe aircraft is less of a concern in Nigeria for several reasons; human error is a much bigger factor in accidents there, people are more worried about getting from point A to point B at all than getting there safely, you are probably safer in an unsafe aircraft than driving along the ground in many areas, the life expectancy isn't very good anyway, and some people might actually be able to afford to operate or own an aircraft that costs 1/20th the cost for only half the safety.

      If Nigeria could produce helicopters capable of carrying 4 people 60MPH at 15ft above the ground for only a few thousand, I guarantee they would be selling them as fast as they could build them to all of the other countries around them. Countries without all of the safety regulations that make our travel so safe and expensive. Toy radio controlled helicopters here cost more than that.

    16. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Mod this young Nigerian up.

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    17. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by JohnsonJohnson · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one major industrial company traces its roots to a tinkerer who made his name adapting left over engine parts, in this case WWII surplus.

    18. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by nahdude812 · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. I made a parachute from an umbrella when I was 6!
      How long did you have to have the cast on for?
    19. Re:Unusable Prototype But a Promising Individual by Builder · · Score: 1

      I hope he manages to team up with someone with local business savvy who won't screw him over.

      In Nigeria? Good luck with that! Hell, anywhere in this whole damn region, good luck! I've not had a single good experience dealing with any company in Nigeria. I've had a _few_ good experiences in Togo and Benin, but Nigeria, CAR and Niger were just nightmares.

      I've also found the "I've done something, why won't everone beat a path to my door and give me lots of money" attitude to be VERY prevalent out here.

      It's just sad, and I can't wait to go home :(

  8. Awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is freakin awesome. More power to him.

  9. Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the picture I am not able to make out how he did the most crucial thing for the helicopter, controlling of the collective pitch (sometimes called total pitch) and the cyclic pitch. Without it, the craft will lift off and "fly" uncontrollably and land. I see two large struts holding up the rotor hub and the hub seems to be a ball. He might have done away with total pitch, relying on throttle ( input power) to self adjust the "lift" and the ball being pivoted to provide just the cyclic pitch control. That will give some rudimentary direction control. Interesting toy. Hope a youtube video appears soon.

    Sure I am glad there is atleast one Nigerian working with his hands and brain instead of sening emails about 18 million dollars in a slush fund left over from the coffers of General Abacha.

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    1. Re:Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here's my take. If I were designing something like this inexpensively, I'd use the two bars shown to adjust the angle of the shaft to lean it forward or backward. The shaft would be connected to the engine output via a universal joint pulled from a car drive shaft. I'd use the tail rotor to adjust the direction the helicopter was pointing. This would be a simple helicopter, so you'd be missing the ability to strafe.

    2. Re:Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      Or just build a autogyro, and not worry about individual blade pitch at all... You just rotate the entire set of blades. If you are going for cheap, safe, and low HP the autogyro concept is a considerably better design... It will never beat the dead on target placement that a standard helicopter cycled concept can offer, but it does not look that is what this kid is looking for anyway.. :-)

      Sounds like this kids needs to learn one of the best rules of egr of them all, which is do not re-invent the wheel. :-)

    3. Re:Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by jandrese · · Score: 1

      As an added bonus, due to the flight profile (especially the stall recovery) an autogyro would be even more of a deathtrap than his helicopter already is.

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    4. Re:Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      I'd use the two bars shown to adjust the angle of the shaft to lean it forward or backward.
      I'm sure you know that to lean it forward or aft you actually need to apply the force (well, technically a torque,) at 90 Degrees to where you want the rotor to 'precess' or tilt. This is because the spinning mass of the rotor makes it subject to gyroscopic precession. So your control rods essentially need to be at the sides.

      Another factor you'll need to consider is that as the aircraft gains velocity the retreating blade requires more pitch to maintain the same amount of lift as the forward traveling rotor blade - so you stay level. Hence the swashplate.
    5. Re:Would be interesting to see how it "flies" by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      Never flown an autogyro before, but I would guess it autorotates just like a helicopter.

  10. No pitch control by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking at the photo it looks like the blade pitch is fixed and the braces look like the hold the shaft at a fixed angle. It is thus hard to figure out how it gets any forward motion, or how he would compensate for a tilt in the aircraft. Not sure how this works.

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    1. Re:No pitch control by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I couldn't tell from the picture if it has any type of flapping hinge or seesaw arrangement of the blades to deal with the advancing blade problem. If not then if it goes more than a few KPH it will start to roll.

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    2. Re:No pitch control by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 1, Funny

      It works like this: The helecopter approximates a visual representation of helecopters familiar to people in America. People with money. You get those rich, stupid people in America to invest in your helecopter-representation, and their riches become your riches. That's how the helecopter/moneymaker works.

      What is it with these Africans and their scams?

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    3. Re:No pitch control by rvw · · Score: 1

      It is thus hard to figure out how it gets any forward motion, or how he would compensate for a tilt in the aircraft. Not sure how this works. He probably uses the oral method: "Lean forward please!"
    4. Re:No pitch control by s31523 · · Score: 1

      The photo looks like it is missing a tail rotor as well, um, that is sorta critical, unless you just want to spin like a tea-cup ride at the fair...

    5. Re:No pitch control by zippthorne · · Score: 1
      Indeed. You'll also note that he spent time giving it an enclosed, poorly sealed cockpit. Since he's clearly not pressurizing the thing, I fail to see what benefit he gets by obstructing his view. Especially in front and below the pilot.

      It's definitely a homecoming float.

      On the other hand, perhaps we are not shown the actual aircraft:

      For a four-seater it is a big aircraft, measuring twelve metres (39 feet) long, seven metres high by five wide. It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet
      emphasis mine.

      Those dimensions are almost as large as my house.
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    6. Re:No pitch control by hey! · · Score: 1

      According to the joystick adjust the "balance" -- by which I'm guessing he has some means of tweaking the fore-aft weight trim of the aircraft. I don't know much about helicopters, but I doubt they'd sport the elaborate pitch adjustment mechanisms they do if such as crude system were satisfactory. It may be enough to demonstrate controlled flight at very low speeds and calm conditions.

      Personally, if I were inflicted with helicopter mania, I'd start with an autogyro; sucessful autogyros were built in the 1920s so it seems like a practical project for a low tech country.

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    7. Re:No pitch control by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 1

      At that angle, the tail rotor blades would be edge-on to the camera, so it might be hard to see them. Plus it's a really crappy photo. I really can't tell if they're there or not, but let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

      And how big is this thing, anyway? The article says 12 m long and 7 m tall, but in the photo it looks only a little taller than the man next to it. Did he build multiple helicopters?

    8. Re:No pitch control by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      I noticed that to, no swash plate, and I could not tell if there was a tail rotor either. There is no mention of yaw controls ( pedels). Still not sure what he wants a humidity gauge for, And the altitude and atmospheric gauges would be the same thing. I am quite skeptical of the whole thing. It looks more like a carnival ride. It did mention that it is stored at an airport now, so the pictures taken in the field may have been before it was completed.

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    9. Re:No pitch control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, the fact that it was photographed in a grassy, dirt field adds to the "homebuilt" image of it.
      I wonder if he has been able to go very far in it. Even if it only goes up 15 feet, that would be something in a place where roads might be scarce, if he is able to travel around in it.

  11. Indeed by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    It may hover in ground effect but I doubt that it can fly out side of it.

    I would bet a large sum of money it could not exceed an altitude ceiling of seven feet (granted, I cheated, see my name). Since it only goes that high, and he recognizes it lacks instruments, I think he's safe for now.

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    1. Re:Indeed by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You really don't need any instruments to fly in clear weather. I think the only "required" instruments for VFR flight are an altimeter and airspeed indicator. Lots of hang gliders don't even have those.
      In a helicopter seven feet is enough to kill you. Heck you can kill yourself on the ground with just a little bad luck. All it would take is for the transmission to let go and have a 133 HP chain whip through the cabin. Helicopters are complex beasts.

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    2. Re:Indeed by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      An airspeed indicator is almost critical on a airplane depending on its stall profile. Meaning, a Cessna 150/2 with a blocked airspeed indicator is a death trap on landing and takeoff.

      It looks like from the pictures all this kid did was to get some blades to turn. He did get some national coverage, though... :-)

    3. Re:Indeed by rjkimble · · Score: 2, Informative

      An airspeed indicator is almost critical on a airplane depending on its stall profile. Meaning, a Cessna 150/2 with a blocked airspeed indicator is a death trap on landing and takeoff.
      Nah -- an angle of attack indicator is more reliable and a better predictor of stall than an airspeed indicator. Also, an experienced pilot can pretty much tell whether or not he's close to a stall.
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    4. Re:Indeed by smellsofbikes · · Score: 3, Informative

      The minimum required instrument list differs a little between different airplanes (the manufacturer decides.)
      Here's what the FAA requires:
      A - Airspeed indicator.
      B - Altimeter.
      C - Magnetic direction indicator. (read: compass.)
      D - Tachometer.
      E - Oil pressure gauge.
      F - Oil temperature gauge for each air-cooled engine.
      G - Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank.
      H - For small civil airplanes certificated after 1996, an approved aviation red or aviation white anticollision light system.
      I - An approved safety belt with an approved metal-to-metal latching device for each occupant 2 years of age or older.
      J - For small civil airplanes manufactured after 1978, an approved shoulder harness for each front seat. (other req'mts R.S. 1986)
      K - An emergency locator transmitter, (excepts - sing. place ++)

      Now, if you're flying an ultralight -- under 250 pounds -- you can do any fool thing you want, but in the US, if you have an airplane with an airworthiness certificate, you have to take along some stuff.
      (The above list from an Experimental Aviation website quiz.)

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    5. Re:Indeed by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Sorry I was thinking of just flight instruments. I think of a compass as a navigational aid and the other as engine instruments. I learned to fly sailplanes so engine instruments kind of slipped my mind. Not to mention that was back in high school and I haven't flow since then :) So thanks for filling me in.
      But the lack of those instruments in a helicopter will in no way prevent the pilot form killing themselves.

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    6. Re:Indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So can an inexperienced pilot. In my flight school, I spent a lot of time flying at near stall speed. Spins aren't taught any more for safety concerns, but stall awareness was a high priority of my instructor.

    7. Re:Indeed by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      All things considered, I think I'd rather have a compass than an airspeed indicator. I think if I just had to choose a single instrument, it'd be a compass. (Stall onset, in the planes I fly, is hard to miss.) I'm reviewing to try and get my biennial flight review back, so minimum-required-instruments is on my mind a bit lately. Sailplanes are beautiful and something I'd love to get some time in, one of these days.

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    8. Re:Indeed by NekSnappa · · Score: 1

      Angle of attack only has meaning when related to airspeed. The effect of an AoA of 15 degrees when you're going 150 knots is very different than it is when going 70 knots. So airspeed is more important than AoA for predicting stalls. I work with a lot of former and current naval aviators, most of whom also fly for pleasure, and a few inquiries of them tells me that an AoA indicator isn't on any list of instruments required for VFR.

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    9. Re:Indeed by wjsteele · · Score: 1

      "An airspeed indicator is almost critical..."
      Pffft! Pilots are taught to fly without instruments. When I was learning (oh so many years ago) my instructor intentionally blanked out my instruments to make sure I knew the feel of the plane... and not to rely on what the instruments were telling me.

      Now, during IFR, you need it, but VFR... not a bit. You can easily feel how the landing is going, without the need of an airspeed indicator. And yes... I did learn in a 150... 1969 150J to be exact. Which I still own to this day. There were several occasions in my past where I've taken off only to realize that the pitot tube cover was still on... landing wasn't an issue - who looks at airspeed when they're landing anyway?

      In addition to the airspeed indicator, you also have a backup to it... a stall warning indicator or buzzer. Just keep it from not buzzing and you're ok. If you start to approach stall, the plane will also "tell" you buy the lack of control or a slight buffeting in the controls. If you encounter it, just push the nose slightly over and it will go away.

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    10. Re:Indeed by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      Yea a compass is very useful to say the least. The sailplane I few kind of had a built in airspeed indicator. It was a 2-33 so the wind over the fabric gave you a lot of feedback about airspeed.

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    11. Re:Indeed by endymion.nz · · Score: 1

      Indeed... one of the worst car accidents I have seen was when a driveshaft came loose and went up through the back seat of the car.

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    12. Re:Indeed by tgatliff · · Score: 1

      I wouldnt know about an AoA. I have flown nearly a dozen different HP GA aircraft and have never seen one.

      Also, detecting a stall depends more on the aircraft. Larger and underwing aircraft will give you slight shutter before they stall, and even when they do stall, then traditionally they will just lower their nose assuming the fuel tanks are balanced. This assumes a non-power on stall, of course. Some of the trainers, though, have some violent stall profiles, such as the Cessna 152/172. These aircraft will certainy train you to avoid stalls... :-)

  12. I'll buy you one... by maroberts · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..provided you name me as your sole heir....

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    1. Re:I'll buy you one... by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      And if it's running NT, I suspect you'll be inheriting very quickly.

  13. DEAR SIR by Arthur+B. · · Score: 5, Funny

    GOOD DAY TO YOU AND GOD BLESS. I HAVE BEEN MANUFACTURING HELICOPTERS FROM USED CAR SINCE 10 YEARS (AS SEEN ON YAHOO) AND RECENTLY SOLD MY FLEET FOR THE SUM OF $100,000,000. UNFORTUNATELY, THE PAYMENT OF THIS MONEY IS STILL SITTING IN ESCROW IN A NIGERIAN BANK AS THE STATE AIRFORCE WHO BOUGHT THE HELICOPTERS REFUSE TO PAY. I NEED YOUR HELP TO UNLOCK THAT SUM FROM THE ESCROW, FOR THIS SERVICE YOU WILL BE PAID A FULL 5%, THAT IS $5,000,000. IF YOU CAN HELP ME PLEASE FAX ME YOUR PASSPORT.

    (hey it's caps-lock day today anyway)

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    1. Re:DEAR SIR by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      That is amazing.

      The All Caps post you made passed the lameness filter.

      Wha--What helicopter?

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  14. Kit Copters by cosm · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of the Kit Copters that came about around 20-30 years ago. Go to Sams or Home Depot or whatever, buy the family kit-copter for what was then a price of 40 dollars, and spend hours of good wholesome fun in the garage with pops perfecting that cox motor that probably will never run more than twice. I give the man props for his ingenuity, but safety may be a tiny bit of an issue. I can only imagine to horror of auto-rotating that out of a stall. Hopefully he won't be sued for pirating and copyright issues for make a mashup of his own favorite parts and then combining them into a usable work that is actually kind of cool. Something people see and say 'ooh' and 'ahh' but doesn't actually cause profit losses to the Motion Picture Ass...I mean the helicopter industry.

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  15. Good for him. by Gibble · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, I don't care how crude or rudimentary it is, build a helicopter that actually flies, wow. With proper tools, and funding, he could go on to make some great innovations, unfortunately, like he said, his government doesn't recognize achievements, and he'll likely end up going elsewhere.

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    1. Re:Good for him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree. While a lot of people are commenting on what it lacks are overlooking the important part: he built this, without any formal aeronautical training, from car parts. That it flies at all is amazing. This man is a genius and should get a scholarship for more training- with that and his ingenuity, he could do wonders.

    2. Re:Good for him. by Gibble · · Score: 1

      Exactly, most people feel a sense of accomplishment building a go-cart or some other land or even water craft...but air! Damn...that's crazy.

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    3. Re:Good for him. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, that is his biggest problem if he expects "the government" to recognize his achievments. His best hope is some capitalist would recognize his abilities.

  16. Come on dude... whiner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although some government officials got very excited when they saw him conduct a demonstration flight in neighbouring Katsina state, Nigeria's Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) has so far shown no interest in his aircraft.

    "No one from the NCAA has come to see what I've done. We don't reward talent in this country," he lamented. Dude, you're gonna have to fly it for more than a couple seconds and 7 feet off the ground. If you toured around Nigeria in this chopper they might consider it. Though I'm willing to bet if you did that your life is going to be very short.
    1. Re:Come on dude... whiner by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      ...you're gonna have to fly it for more than a couple seconds and 7 feet off the ground.

      The flight lasted 12 seconds and covered 120 feet.

      Patience, Grasshopper

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  17. I wish him better luck than the X-Wing by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    But for his sake and his family's, I hope this is also a remotely controlled helicopter, at least for the crash-er, flight tests. People have enough trouble with machines purpose-built for flight by engineers and tradesmen who know what they're doing. From watching youtube videos, I can easily imagine a dozen failure modes that will send pieces rapidly in multiple directions.

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  18. BS by ddrichardson · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would love to see more photos of this but suspect we wont. His description of the controls doesn't really fit with how rotary wing aircraft operate and there are other reservations.

    133 horsepower is very underpowered considering the smallest I work with is the Gazelle with 858shp and the quoted 300 rpm on blades that size is very low to give any kind of lift, in fact it is ridiculous. Car engines are relatively heavy and looking at the welded head and the car seats, I cannot imagine this has the capability to lift off with a person on board.

    Looking at the photo, it also appears not to have a swash plate or similar mechanism, so how the rotor disc is positioned to give directional flight I have no idea. On the plus side he does have a big red navigation light on top. Never mind that it's not on the port side as it's supposed to be.

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    1. Re:BS by slashdotmsiriv · · Score: 1

      It may actually be the case that that slashdot has been 419ed by this guy ...

  19. Don't worry about autorotating by name_already_taken · · Score: 1

    He says the next model will be able to fly at an altitude of 15 feet. That implies that the current yellow model flies lower than 15 feet. Even if the rotors suddenly broke off (which might be a likely occurrence) and it lost all lift, you don't have that far to fall. You might get a broken leg or a concussion from falling less than 15 feet, but the main safety issue is probably going to be bystanders hit by flying pieces of rotor.

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  20. heh. by apodyopsis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I dunno, its home made, Heath Robinson, scrapheap challenge and scary as hell ...

    ... but strangely a lot more plausible then Air Wolf and Blue Thunder.

    (I'm informed by a pilot colleague that without squash plates and cyclic controls - whatever the hell they are - its not a true helicopter and hence is uncontrollable. Still we all agreed it was better then we could do.)

    1. Re:heh. by olddotter · · Score: 2

      I'm still more impressed with the home made helicopter than I would be a home made sputnik in the story above. Now if the BBC had a story about a guy who had launched a home made sputnik into orbit for $10,000 then I'd be impressed.

    2. Re:heh. by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      For the record, it's a swashplate not a squash plate. It's right near the Jesus Nut. (heh.)

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    3. Re:heh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      THAN you cretinous illiterate fuck

  21. Ballmer says helicopter violates Microsoft IP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In related news, Ballmer now claims this Nigerian helicopter violates Microsoft IP for processes that endlessly spin out of control causing crashes.

    1. Re:Ballmer says helicopter violates Microsoft IP by 6Yankee · · Score: 1

      ...and when the rotors dig in, think how far the chair will get thrown!

  22. Whoever measured the 'copter... by sm284614 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For a four-seater it is a big aircraft, measuring twelve metres (39 feet) long, seven metres high by five wide. It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet.
    If you look at the picture of said helicopter, something is amiss: seven metres high? The guy standing next to it is as tall as it. Is Nigeria a land of giants, of does sombody need to fix their metric conversion?
    1. Re:Whoever measured the 'copter... by McWilde · · Score: 2, Informative

      I noticed that too. I don't think there actually was any conversion, they just replaced the word "feet" by "metres". It looks about seven feet high, five feet wide, twelve feet long. Why they would include that sentence is beyond me, on the picture it looks quite cramped for a four-seater.

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  23. Neat... by Notquitecajun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More power to this guy. Any info on its mpg? Safety is a bit of an issue, but that's if he runs into something in front of him - not much will happen by falling from a 7-15 foot height.

    Something like that would actually be handy for travelling in many parts of the world where the roads are poor and access is difficult - cheap helicopters would be great for getting around and getting access.

    Imagine using these in the aftermath of natural disasters when the roads are washed out and areas are inaccessible in places like the Honduras or New Orleans. In America, we can't/don't build cheap aircraft like this. Heck, an auto mechanic could probably do most of the maintenance on the thing...

    1. Re:Neat... by improfane · · Score: 1

      not much will happen by falling from a 7-15 foot height.


      Unless it falls ontop of him.
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    2. Re:Neat... by Sciros · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its mpg? Easy -- 0 mpg. Doesn't matter how many gallons of anything you pour into it, unless it's Liquid Schwartz, I don't see it really flying anywhere. ... ... ... "Imagine using these in New Orleans"??!? We have actual rescue helicopters here, they are big and awesome and can actually fly properly, hehehe.

      Cheap and small is all well and good, but when you want complex tech to be reliable, the "cheap" goes away real quick. Especially when you're trusting lives to that tech.

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    3. Re:Neat... by Notquitecajun · · Score: 1

      There's an old saying in some situations, though - "beggars can't be choosers." The Cajun Navy - the guys that jumped in their boats and headed into New Orleans - weren't exactly using the most reliable equipment at times.

    4. Re:Neat... by magarity · · Score: 1

      Any info on its mpg?
       
      It uses an engine from a Civic and my Civic get 38 mpg. Hope that helps!
       
      8|

  24. I think you nailed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His new machine is intended to fly at fifteen feet. Sounds like ground effect to me.

    I don't know about the power though. A Bell 47 had a piston engine that wasn't too big, a couple of hundred HP. OTOH, he's talking about using a motorbike engine for his next try. That's ultralight territory for sure. It can be done though. Here's an example I googled: http://www.innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/index.asp Also remember that iirc a Bell Jet Ranger only gets about 400 HP on the shaft.

    One question: A regular 'copter controls the tail rotor with the pedals. He doesn't mention pedals. How do you think he controls the tail rotor? Does he control the tail rotor?

    1. Re:I think you nailed it by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      I do not see a tail rotor, nor a swash plate. It looks as though the blades are at a fixed angle of attack, and pitch. The cyclic (joystick) might just be a stick with some bricks attached to change the center of gravity.

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  25. stealthy! by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 1

    flies up to 15 feet? what a perfect altitude for "stealty" missions...I doubt that anyone would notice this thing as it crept up on you...

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  26. Used to deliver 419 flyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn, shouldn't be giving them these ideas..! Sorry guys!

  27. Why shouldn't they buy? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    I don't see why Nigeria wouldn't buy his helicopter, beyond the few problems:
    1. Built from random car parts. Parts from broken cars, obviously quality material to start with. Better make sure your junk yard is properly stocked with old buicks.
    2. Maximum altitude is 15 feet. But if anything goes wrong, you can just jump to the ground.
    3. Carrying capacity. If it can lift one person 15 feet, how high can it lift with 1 ton of cargo?
    4. Besides the maker, who are you going to convince to trust their life to this?

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    1. Re:Why shouldn't they buy? by NWprobe · · Score: 1

      Yeah...much like the home made OS by a guy named Linus back in 1991. It worked but that's it. Like it ever had potential for anything more....ha!

      This chopper is v0.11, looking forward to see his version v1.0 :-)

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    2. Re:Why shouldn't they buy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Yeah...much like the home made OS by a guy named Linus back in 1991. It worked but that's it. Like it ever had potential for anything more....ha!

      Fool. If Linus had died as a result of his first OS crash, Linux would have ended 1991.

      Obviously, you've just a bit-pusher who's never done any real engineering where lives were at stake or you wouldn't say something so brain-dead.

  28. Good effort, lots of kits for homebuilding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I nice little homemade helicopter. I'd be afraid to be within 100 feet while it's rotors are spinning, but a nice effort.

    I was just recently at "Rotorfest" at the helicopter museum in Pennsylvania. There were a few small homemade helicopters on display. There are also more small home-built kiy helicopters available than I realized. An Air Command kit, Benson Sport kit, the Robinson, the Rotorway Scorpion kit...

    Some nice kits, as well as the big well-known helicopters, shown here:
    http://www.helicoptermuseum.org/Aircraft.asp

    1. Re:Good effort, lots of kits for homebuilding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't want to be anywhere near as close as 100ft to the thing. If a rotor snapped off while it was at full throttle, how far would it fling it? I don't know enough physics to calculate it, but I'm going to go ahead and guess I'd want to be quite a bit more than 100ft away, and probably behind a nice big, thick, concrete wall.

      Still, fair play to the guy. He's built more of a helicopter than I ever will, and he did it with mostly scrap. That's what I call a hack!

  29. Shades of B.A. Barracus by NeuroManson · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I watched action movies a lot and I was fascinated by the way choppers fly. I decided it would be easier to build one than to build a car,"

    It's easier to crash one too.

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    1. Re:Shades of B.A. Barracus by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      It's easier to crash one too.

      Obliviously it was intended to be used in Hollywood movies based upon his impressions of action movies.

  30. Send this kid to the US and offer him a job.... by booleanoperator · · Score: 1

    One would think someone intelligent would offer this kid a job when he graduates.

  31. Well done! by maaskaas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is pretty amazing. The technical aspects of how flawed this helicopter is does not really go with the intent of the article. He obviously wanted a challenge, as I can imagine that being a physics student in Nigeria can't be too fulfilling, and building a helicopter and succeeding is a great accomplishment. Just reading what parts he used shows that he made something from nothing.

    1. Re:Well done! by TheSharpCrayon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      After being around aircraft all of my working life 30+ years, maybe just maybe there is someone who looks outside of the mindset box and see's one without all of the stray parts. Helicopters have driveshaft's running every direction except forward. Definately give the boy a Visa and put him to work.

  32. TEH OMG!!! Tell teh CIA!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Teh OMG!!! This is a guy from a non-American country with a funny name... he HAS to be a terrorist! Why else would he have an interest in technology?

    Someone alert teh CIA!!! Don't have a pre-9/11 mindset!! We must live in fear of everything and everyone!!! Call Faux Noise Channel!!!

    1. Re:TEH OMG!!! Tell teh CIA!!! by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 1

      I just don't see this thing surviving a crash into a hut, yet alone a building.

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  33. Give that Kid a Visa!! by tgatliff · · Score: 1

    Pretty sharp kid. Give him a visa and send him to the US where he can better money than he could ever make back home.... Gee, and I wonder why these countries are not able to keep their most talented people? :-)

    1. Re:Give that Kid a Visa!! by Eyeball97 · · Score: 1

      I tried, but he could only take Western Union.

      The money I sent him to help get out with the cash was for him to HIRE a helicopter, dammit, not create all this publicity! Now how's he going to get 14 crates of President Liposuction's gold out of the damn country discretely?

  34. all sorts of surprises. by ritalinvillain · · Score: 1

    "While some of the parts have been sourced from a crashed 747, the chopper contains all sorts of surprises."

    How long is it going to be before he uses parts from a "crashed helicopters [made] out of old car and bike parts." ? That would be all sorts of surprises.

  35. Someone should point him at hovercraft by simong · · Score: 1

    Similar principles, similar components, and a whole lot less dangerous when something stops working. Far better at getting across country too.

  36. ah huh! by improfane · · Score: 1

    So this is how we get homebrew sputnik into space!

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  37. Ninjas by quarrel · · Score: 1

    I now know I've been reading /. for too long..

    I read that title as "Home-made Helicopters with Ninjas"

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  38. Gazelle != good example by Steffan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Robinson R22has only 160HP and is a real helicopter in widespread use as a trainer.
    Obviously you don't need over 800hp to get a helicopter to work. Granted, I'm sure his aircraft weighs a great deal more than an R22.

    1. Re:Gazelle != good example by ddrichardson · · Score: 1

      Agreed, like I said the Gazelle is the smallest I've worked on - never touched a Robinson but I suspect its rotorspeed is *significantly* higher than 300 rpm.

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  39. Dear beneficiary by night_flyer · · Score: 1

    On behalf of the Trustees and Executor of the estate of Late Engr.John Ferguson who died while flying his home-made helicopter;I wish to notify you that late Engr.John Ferguson made you a beneficiary to his WILL. He left the sum of Seven Million One Hundred Thousand Dollars (USD$7,100.000.00 ) to you in the codicil and last testament to his WILL. Late Engr.John Ferguson died on the 22th day of October, 2007 at the age of 80 years, and his WILL is ready for execution. According tohim this money is to support your humanitarian activities and to help the poor and the needy in our society.I hope to hear from you in no distant time.

    Yours in Service,
    BARRISTER CHRIS WALLACE.
    (Head of Chambers.)

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  40. Re: D&D Trap worthy of Tomb of Horrors by Abreu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, the fall is only 1D6 damage, but the couple of tons of steel and burning fuel falling on top of you shortly after could be probably modeled like this:

    Crashing Home-made Helicopter: CR 10; mechanical; location trigger; no reset; Atk +16 melee (8D6+8, bludgeoning); burning fuel (equivalent to an incendiary cloud spell, 15th-level wizard, 4D6/round for 15 rounds, DC 22 Reflex save half damage); Search DC 20; Disable Device DC 25. Market Price: unknown (unique).

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  41. some language translation for you: by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Mubarak Muhammed Abdullahi" is Nigeriasn for "MacGyver"

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  42. Quick! Somebody give that kid a VISA and... by PotatoHead · · Score: 1

    ...a plane ticket, before he kills himself.

    Nice talent and even better, motivation.

    If Nigeria doesn't appreciate him, somebody else will.

  43. So, any video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anyone really *seen* this thing fly? Because I doubt it can.
    Sorry to sound negative, but from the looks of it, it's much too heavy to lift off with that rather small engine. Also there's the problems with rotor control others mentioned.
    So, without any evidence, I'd say this is something *resembling* a real helicopter that may *turn* it's rotor, but won't fly at all. The power should be enough to throw it on it's side however ...

  44. Media hype? by athloi · · Score: 1

    It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet. This story seems overhyped. I wonder if Nigeria is our next gallant ally in the war against terror and drugs.

  45. Sikorsky by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suggest everyone read up on Igor Sikorskiy, the inventor (more or less) of the helicopter.

    "You can't make a helicopter without ultrasonic and x-ray fracture inspection."

    Well sure that makes it safer, but Sikorskiy didn't have any of that. Hell, I don't think they did that in the Vietnam era.

    "You need 900 horsepower (or some damn thing) to make a working heli."

    Sikorskiy's first helicopter ran on a 90-hp piston engine, with a welded steel frame.

    It's true that this guy's helicopter is probably overweight, flying on ground-effect only, and it seems to be missing the most important (and complicated) part, the swashplate / cyclic blade control. But give him the resources Sikorkiy had, and I think he could do it.

    1. Re:Sikorsky by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

      Precisely. I mean, it's like having a guy in Africa build a 3 stage rocket that he claims can reach orbit, and then having people say it's missing the wings for landing and the NASA manufactured heat plates. Sure, a powerful engine and good QA is nice to have, but it's no more necessary then parachutes are for a rocket, required in the sense that it's not that safe without it but not truly required because you can launch a rocket without a parachute (you'll just get arrested). X-Rays and powerful engines aren't as necessary as rotar blades and an engine :P.

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    2. Re:Sikorsky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, so what? He could probably build an ENIAC or a Model T over there too out of spare parts, but it still wouldn't be anything other than a curiosity. Replicating a '50s era achievement using the knowledge available to a physics undergrad like him in 2007 isn't interesting other than as an exercise in kit-bashing.

      It's not innovative, it's not mass-produceable, it's not fully functional, it's not even *safe* for pity's sake. Only the wannabe nerds are ignorant enough to go gaga over this.

  46. With what money? by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with "inept" government in the third world usually goes somewhat like this: to build anything, you need money. Loans and foreign aid are available, of course, only they come tied to one or both of:

    1. you _must_ use that money to buy from the country that gave you the money. Often they'll even tell you what, and from exactly what company.

    For example, let's say Nigeria wants to build a dam. (Or anything else, including helicopters.) The sane way would be to pay some local construction company to build it. After all, they work cheaper, you inject some money in the local economy, and might even stimulate some specialists to stay in your county instead of skipping over the border at the first oportunity. But you won't get a loan, much less foreign aid, for that. Unless you can prove that you're so solvable that you didn't even need a loan at all, except for some uncontrollable desire to pay interest.

    The loans you can get come with strings attached like "but you'll contract the building from this American corporation." Sometimes you don't even actually see the money. They're transferred from an USA bank account to another USA bank account, and that's that. Of course, it only costs a few times more than letting the locals do it, and helps ruin yet another local industry, but such is being on the shit end of the imperialism stick.

    And if you think that dam building is something you can do without, picture the same deal on grain, trucks, and other such. Essentially there's a _shitload_ of loans and foreign aid that isn't what you think it is. It's tied to destroying your local agriculture and industry.

    2. you _must_ implement some good ol' right-wing reforms. Cut government spending, let companies go bankrupt, cut down social security, raise interest rates, etc.

    Sounds like good, common sense advice, right?

    Well, the problem with common sense is that it isn't that common and often makes no sense. In this case, according to modern Keynesian economics, those are the exact measures that will transform a recession into a depression, or a depression into a crash. That's stuff you do in an economic boom, not during times of crisis. It's counter-intuitive, but modern economics tend to be that way.

    Essentially we, the West, have been asking the third world countries to destroy their own economy, ever since WW2. Welcome to the wonderful world of imperialism. They're supposed to be busy sewing cheap sports shoes and mining cheap iron for us, not to start industrializing.

    And as a third world government, you'll be nailed to a cross whether you take it or not. Your choices there are (A) refuse and get to explain to a whole country why they'll have less bread or more brownouts this year, and that in the long term it's better for them, or (B) take it even if you know that in the long term you're only harming your country. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, and someone will blame you for either choice.

    Oh, and if you chose A, congrats, now you've got all the first world treating you like the great Satan too, for refusing to play their game. Some economic sanctions might be in your future, to destroy you that way. On the other hand, choice B at least makes you look good in the short term and often comes together with some bribe.

    It's easy to blame it on inept governments or kleptokracy, but that's really the only choices they typically have there. It's a lose-lose choice. But option B at least doesn't cause massive unrest and a bunch of other problems.

    It's easy to look at it and say that they took choice B only because they're fucking stupid or because of the bribe. And I guess it some cases it even is so. But in a lot of cases I genuinely wonder if it's that simple.

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    1. Re:With what money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you won't get a loan, much less foreign aid, for that. Unless you can prove that you're so solvable that you didn't even need a loan at all, except for some uncontrollable desire to pay interest.

      The loans you can get come with strings attached like "but you'll contract the building from this American corporation."


      Nothing stops these governments from issuing bonds on the private market. If private investors are not willing to lend them money without high interest charges or requesting structural reforms, there's usually a very good reason. Would you be willing to risk your retirement savings on Nigerian dams or helicopters?

    2. Re:With what money? by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nothing stops these governments from issuing bonds on the private market. If private investors are not willing to lend them money without high interest charges or requesting structural reforms, there's usually a very good reason. Would you be willing to risk your retirement savings on Nigerian dams or helicopters?


      That's very insightful indeed, but then at least let's stop sneering at them because they're poor.

      Poverty is, basically, a vicious circle. You don't get a loan because you're poor, and you can't get out of poverty without some money to industrialize with.

      Saying that some third world country is inept for not building a helicopter factory, is kinda silly.

      It's like saying that a homeless should just take a loan and open a supermarket. That's a non-functional plan to get out of poverty. He can't get that kind of a loan because he's poor in the first place. (And, yes, I can understand why the banks don't want to risk that money.)

      Except that a homeless in the USA or EU could still (at least theoretically) get a job at a car wash and use that income, no matter how meager, to slowly crawl his way up. Third world nations without much natural resources (mainly read: oil) can't even do that. The only way up is to invest in industrializing, and they don't have the money to do that. And if anyone offers them some money, it's tied to the condition that it helps destroy the little industry they already had.

      Briefly: I'm not asking anyone to risk their retirement savings to help Nigeria, or any other poor country. But I _am_, basically, saying, "let's not be so snotty, shall we?" The snotty attitude that they must be poor only because they're inept, is... rarely that simple. I'd say it reeks of the medieval elitism that the peasants must be poor only because they're stupid and lazy, except it doesn't just reek of it, it _is_ the same elitism in a more enlightened disguise.
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    3. Re:With what money? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

      according to modern Keynesian economics

      Keynesian economics haven't been "modern" for a while now. If you look at current policies it becomes clear that the whole "waste makes wealth" thing didn't work out, and they're working on some alternate theories -- ones that don't promote consumption at the expense of saving and investment.

      The policies you propose -- bailing out failing businesses, extending easy credit, and generally wasting valuable resources in a futile attempt to put off the inevitable market correction to the malinvestments of the boom period -- are exactly how we ended up with the Great Depression. There's a complete analysis of the Depression available if you need further details.

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    4. Re:With what money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keynesian economics haven't been "modern" for a while now.

      Austrian economics have been "modern" even less. The closest modern equivalent would be supply-side economics, but that didn't really work, neither on practical nor theoretical grounds.

    5. Re:With what money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poverty is, basically, a vicious circle. You don't get a loan because you're poor, and you can't get out of poverty without some money to industrialize with.

      China and India used to be very poor countries, and yet they managed to industrialize to a significant degree by attracting FDI and promoting trade-, export-based development (as opposed to import substitution and other kinds of government industrial policy). Credit constraints are a significant problem at the personal level, but it looks like microfinance might be a viable solution to this issue.

      The notion that the problems of many underdeveloped countries largely stem from their remarkably poor institutional environment is hardly snotty or elitist: indeed, it's shared by most development economists.

    6. Re:With what money? by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1
      Bullshit.

      China went from agrarian to industrialized through economic planning. Same as the Soviet Union. Planning, as it turns out, is a really good way to go from an agrarian economy to an industrialized one. (This is not to say that China didn't have all sorts of cool shit before the revolution; just that they were behind on industrialization.)

      The crucial difference between e.g. Nigeria and the CCCP is that Nigeria lacks 1) an agrarian economy to start with (subsistence farming doesn't count) and 2) a strong government capable of enacting a planned economy without getting "bombed back to stone age" as you Yanks like to put it. In Nigeria's particular case, they're also hamstrung by Shell's private arm^W^Wsecurity contractors and its attendant corruption.

    7. Re:With what money? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China went from agrarian to industrialized through economic planning. Same as the Soviet Union. Planning, as it turns out, is a really good way to go from an agrarian economy to an industrialized one.

      ROTFL!! We all know that the Great Leap Forward was a major economic success.

    8. Re:With what money? by afabbro · · Score: 1
      This is most ridiculous college-kid-liberal spin I've ever heard.

      Yes, you must implement "right-wing reforms". These are usually "imperialist" things like not raping your treasury, not floating on a gold houseboat atop a sea of corruption, not enslaving your populace to enrich yourself, using your natural resources more wisely, not sending the money to a Swiss Bank, not dispersing it to all the troops to keep yourself in power, perhaps - and boy, this is really fascist - spending it on the project you say you're going to spend it on, etc. Have you ever looked at the typical African "country"? It's little more than poorly organized thuggery.

      BTW, why is it so hard for corrupt third-world countries to get loans? Because they so rarely pay them back. And personally, I'm happy countries and bankers try to take a modicum of care with the taxpayers' money.

      Son, you might want to try a little less Nation and a little more Economist to balance out your views.

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    9. Re:With what money? by sjames · · Score: 1

      C) Print the money to pay the locals to build the dam. Use some of the extra tax revenue from the stimulated economy to take the fiat currency back out of the economy. Plan for isolationism to get through the sanctions. If you need a loan to buy anything significant from the west and you're not taking loans, their refusal to sell to you doesn't mean much.

    10. Re:With what money? by sjames · · Score: 1

      They have labor to spare. They have the benefit of hindsight to develop thier technology starting with the industrial revolution forward at an acceelerated rate skipping a few of the blind alleys along the way. It IS easier said than done, but it's got to be better than staying under the thumbs of first world nations that just want to exploit dirt cheap labor to make over-priced shoes.

    11. Re:With what money? by Vitamin+J · · Score: 1

      The Keynesian prescription of fiscal expansions to stimulate growth is more or less accepted as the conventional wisdom by most economists, but institutional factors are also arguably very important (ie. state institutions that promote the rule of law, property rights, corruption free government, streamlined bureacracies, limits on executive power etc).

      Economists have been harping on about the quality of institutions for a while now, and usually the basket case economies of Africa are their textbook case studies in what not to do. So whilst government spending may help short term output growth and may be a good idea, they also need to work on (among other things) improving their institutions.

    12. Re:With what money? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      Microloans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microloan_Foundation are good value. The point is to look how small you can be and still succeed.

      He's building his second helicopter. He may sell that and build a third. Maybe he refines his processes well enough that he can bring in a brother to help. Maybe he can buy an item cheaper if he buys in lots of five...maybe he can bootstrap himself to stardom. I can think of a few other folks who have. It's initiative plus entrepreneurial attitude plus an idea, cemented together with education that's going to help this guy, and it looks like he's got that covered.

      Oh, and maybe a lathe. Maybe he doesn't need a million dollars to industrialise, maybe he needs a lathe.

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    13. Re:With what money? by tcdk · · Score: 1

      I think Angola is one of the few African countries that managed to work it self out of that trap. They are, as far as I understand, fairly self sufficient, having until recently, basically denied any foreign help or investment for the last 30 years. The price has been high - no democracy for you - but I'm not sure that the elections in most other African countries are worth much more, and Angola actually have an chance to become rich enough that democracy actually means something. Can you have democracy on an empty belly? ... "real" elections have been promised for next year.

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    14. Re:With what money? by Rip!ey · · Score: 1

      For a country with Nigeria's natural resources, there's now a third way. You just shout out "Hey China, we got oil!"

    15. Re:With what money? by Builder · · Score: 1

      You know what? Fuck 'em.

      I've had it with the whole region. I gave up a good, comfortable life to come out here and change things for the better, and all I've seen is people trying to rip each other off. I've seen short sighted, narrow minded stupidity. I've seen corruption at every single level I've dealt at. I've seen evil that boggles the mind.

      And through all of this, I've seen people standing with their hands out expecting someone else to make it all better. But you can't explain to them that it's THEIR responsibility, they wanted democracy, they wanted the foreign devils out, now they have to make sure their leaders do what they want.

      You can't give someone freedom - they HAVE to take it. You can't help people who won't carry on that help when you're gone.

      I'm sure other people have positive stories, where change has lasted. But I'm so depressed that I couldn't give a damn any more.

  47. Troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF? A nerd site (/.) features a story about a true nerd doing some truly impressive hardware hacking, a nerd wannabe puts him down for it, but the guy who rightly tells him he's a pussy gets modded as a troll?

    I'm disgusted. I guess I need to find a real nerd site.

    -mcgrew (sm62704 if any of you wannabes can use a search function)

  48. Read the full story by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Informative

    This helicopter, which HASN'T crashed, is made out of the bits of a plane that did. A Boeing 747, that is made with all that modern tech and those high safety standards.

    So tell me again, what is riskier? Remember, that quality western aircraft consist entirely of parts made by the lowest bidder, checked by a company under constant pressure to cut costs, and operated by an airline desperate to squeeze every last mile out of a decades old machine.

    Odd thing is that an amateur will often take more care then a proffesional, after all, it ain't the pro who actually got to fly his own deathtrap. Just check aviation history how many real aircraft accidents are down to design flaws. Including choppers whose blades explode if hit by lightening, denied for years by the helicopter industry of being possible.

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    1. Re:Read the full story by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      This helicopter, which HASN'T crashed

      Hasn't crashed? It hasn't flown ether. Call me when he gets one above 200 feet, then we'll talk.

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    2. Re:Read the full story by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      This helicopter, which HASN'T crashed, is made out of the bits of a plane that did. A Boeing 747, that is made with all that modern tech and those high safety standards.
      If this is the same 747 that I am thinking of, it did not "crash" in the sense that you think. Most planes that "crash" don't fall apart and fall down to the ground. Most plane crashes are due to human error. This one was caused by a lock of proper notification of runway closure. One of the planes main wheel trucks struck construction equipment on the runway while on the takeoff roll, and the wheels and a wing were torn off. There were no injuries.

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    3. Re:Read the full story by juhaz · · Score: 1

      This helicopter, which HASN'T crashed, is made out of the bits of a plane that did. A Boeing 747, that is made with all that modern tech and those high safety standards. Only two 747's have ever crashed in Nigeria, neither of which was anywhere near Kano so I doubt the article is correct, but assuming it is, which plane do you mean? The one that had 80500 flight hours, and crashed almost certainly due to pilot error, or the one that was instructed to land on a runway that was being repaired without the knowledge of flight control and hit obstructions?

      So tell me again, what is riskier? Ask again when that helicopter been in use for over twenty years and actually in air for what amounts to over NINE YEARS. I doubt it gets even one percent of that.
  49. Simply said . . . by corifornia2 · · Score: 0

    no, bad nigerian.

    He looks like the guy from the 419 scams

  50. Good on 'em by pinguwin · · Score: 0

    I'm impressed. The fact that it's not safe, who cares. How many of us have either ability or will to do such a thing? It probably won't turn into a commercial project but maybe he and a few other folks like him can get together and figure out something new. Four years ago there were people from Cuba who turned a pickup into a boat and were 'driving' to Florida. They were caught partway out and sent back to Cuba. These are the ones you want. They see a problem, do something about it, and try to take care of it themselves and use creativity and thought. Deport the rest of the lot, keep the innovators. Here is a link: http://havanajournal.com/culture/entry/cubans_found_at_sea_on_pickup_truck_converted_to_motor_raft

  51. The R22... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...only holds two people and on a hot day when the density altitude is high, is very underpowered with two persons aboard. The R22 is a good trainer, and a great chopper to fly solo. We use them a lot in the cornbelt states for low-level flying over the fields where the rotor downwash helps spread the pollen around the corn plants, a practice which we jokingly refer to as "corn screwing".

  52. The sheer amount of... by keirre23hu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    hate on this website is appalling. Yes the kid does have unrealistic expectations if he thinks the government will buy his helicopter. But, is it not impressive that he was able to fashion a working helicopter out of existing materials? And he is not an aeronautical engineer, he's just an undergrad college student, with (apparently) very limited resources and alot of motivation. For that, all he receives here are lame jokes about crashing into elephants and other stupid 3rd world Africa jokes and several people saying they wouldnt fly in it. I wouldnt fly in Orville and Wilbur's plane either. And who cares?

    1. Re:The sheer amount of... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This kid is amazing. I doubt I could build a helicopter from a kit never mind from odds and ends. Then he teaches himself to fly from reading about it off the web. He has a lot of brains and nerve if you ask me.

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    2. Re:The sheer amount of... by midnighttoadstool · · Score: 1

      I think you are very confused as to what 'hate' is.

    3. Re:The sheer amount of... by keirre23hu · · Score: 1

      B verb
      1 hate, detest

      dislike intensely; feel antipathy or aversion towards; "I hate Mexican food"; "She detests politicians

      TFA shows how this student created the helicopter and described some of his aspirations for the future - this results in racist statements, and ridiculous stereotypes about Africa and Africans in general, and several posters summarily shooting down the guy's ambitions. Granted - some posters discussed the story on the merits, but when I made my post, the response I saw was ridiculing the student... not for any particular reason, other than he's from Africa. If this is not antipathy or aversion, please tell me what you see it as. I simply call it as I see it... you are free to disagree.. if you make a valid argument for your point - I am more than willing to change my opinion.

    4. Re:The sheer amount of... by Hathor's+Dad · · Score: 0

      Hey just so you realise only idiots post crap:

      On behalf of the slient majority of people here this is a truly magnificent acomlishment on so many levels. This guy will go down in history as the "African Einstien" ...ok I mafe that up but you get the point!

      If only Jack Black would write a song about him...!

  53. A real GEM by AJWM · · Score: 2, Informative

    As in "Ground Effect Machine". At a seven foot altitude, this thing is well within its own ground effect. In other words, it's a hovercraft that looks like a helicopter.

    Mind, I'll give the guy props for effort and ingenuity, and if he gets the 15 foot altitude version working that would be kind of fun to skim around in over open enough terrain. But an actual helicopter that can fly out of ground effect is a bit more of a challenge. (Me, I've lusted after Rotorway's homebuilt kits since their original Scorpion days.)

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  54. Helicopter pilotage 101 by nsayer · · Score: 1

    Your pilot friend is referring to the swashplate. As the rotors turn, their pitch changes relative to their position. This allows them to develop more lift in one spot and less in another. This, in turn, is what causes the pitch and roll of the helicopter to change. The cyclic control is the stick typically positioned between the pilot's knees and allows him to change the orientation of the swashplate. The rudder pedals (typically) alter the pitch of the tail rotor blades, which adjusts the yaw. The collective is the handle/stick typically found at the pilot's side which (again, typically) adjusts the baseline pitch of the rotors and the engine power and is the pilot's overall lift control.

  55. I'll give him "props" \o/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean really, this just ain't that bad for a first attempt from a poor garage mechanic point of view. I seriously doubt most dudes here have even done something as simple as swap an engine using modern tools and hoists. In a few months he built something that flies, a rotorcraft to boot, albeit ground effects, from junk parts. It's taken moeller skycar 30 years to do about the same and millions of dollars. Not an example of a unit from an old established airframe manufacturer, but for a home made built out of scrap rig in the "developing world"? Not too shabby at all. He's getting dissed here from a lot of guys who's biggest claim to fame is installing neon lights inside their gaming rigs and compiling a kernel or installing ongowah linux. A little fellow geek perspective here is more in order I think. Kudos to the lone backyard inventor! Also note within one generation, these guys with drive in the developing world are going to be your bosses. Guys from india, china, brazil, the old eastern block, and like here in nigeria, they got bupkis to work with and are still coming out with the coolest shit, damn robots, this hellicopter, alternate energy stuff, electric drive bikes and cars that work and are cheap, the big jump to all wireless tech, building and using biofuels tech at small farm size with junk parts while the west has to subsidise ethanol to even get it off the ground,etc. They got *geek spirit* and a *can-do attitude*,while the west is in decadent fat lazy slob ritalin addicted decay. Hoodies and starbucks lurkers, what's the diff? Hey, pass a lawyer and a platefull of IPtroll casserole, that is now the west's contributions looking forward. Look at the universities, 7/8ths non westerners are doing the most advanced research, the other 1/8th is getting puking drunk and playing WoW and calling that an "education". That 7/8ths is gonna be giving you orders soon, just watch.

  56. re: -1 redundant by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    Hey! No fair! There was only 1 comment visible, total, when I posted this. Then I refresh the page and 5 other people have the same joke posted.
    Life, at the speed of Slashdot, I guess....

  57. well... couldn't they wait for.. by scafuz · · Score: 1

    a sample from OEPC (One Elicopter Per Child) project?? I heard somewere they'll be sold for as little as 100$....

  58. Sour grapes? by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    According to the article — which we all read, did not we — the contraption is built in part from the pieces of a 747, which crashed nearby some years ago.

    This points at two things at once

    1. the well-inspected/X-rayed construction can still fall from the sky.
    2. The guy's implement may be using some aviation-grade pieces after all...

    That said, I'm afraid, the regulations/inspections you consider "essential" are not really such — I sense the "sour grapes" sentiment. Sure, it is far riskier to fly in this guy's machine than in a factory-built helicopter. But the fact, that it flies at all — and that he is still a student, who works on the copter in between studying and repairing other people's electronics to supplement his income — are rather remarkable. If a 24-year old in the dirt-poor Nigeria can do this, where is my flying car in the US?

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    1. Re:Sour grapes? by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 1
      > 1. the well-inspected/X-rayed construction can still fall from the sky.

      Well, not really. The 747 has one of the best safety records. It's more likely this 747 crashed due to weather or pilot error.

      > 2. The guy's implement may be using some aviation-grade pieces after all... Well, they were aviation-grade, up to a millisecond before the crash. :)

    2. Re:Sour grapes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but the well-constructed and thoroughly constructed 747 "fell from the sky" after a mysterious mid-air with an unidentifiable, unregistered, helicopter-like contraption vaguely resembling a Subaru.

      Ok, actually I made that up.

    3. Re:Sour grapes? by Fifty+Points · · Score: 1

      Aviation grade parts are sometimes still used after minor crashes after being inspected again.

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    4. Re:Sour grapes? by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      where is my flying car in the US?

      Don't know about the flying car, but here's an ultralight helicopter.

  59. Telling typo in TFA by eck011219 · · Score: 1

    "You start it, allow it to run for a minute or two and you then shift the accelerator forward and the propeller on top begins to spin. The further you shift the accelerator the faster it goes and once you reach 300 rmp you press the joystick and it takes off," Abdullahi explained from the cockpit.


    A quick search for "RMP" comes up with "Risk Management Plan," something that will no doubt come in handy in any homemade helicopter.
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  60. Did you smell that.... by FunkyRider · · Score: 0

    the reason why Bill Gates would like to stay... this is a great place and people make helicopters! yayyy!

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    just wonder why there are so many anonymous cowards in this world....
  61. Re: D&D Trap worthy of Tomb of Horrors by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 1

    Geez, you must be an evil DM. I'd rule that a helicopter falling from 7' can't possibly do more damage than a falling block trap, so it would look like

    Crashing Home-made Helicopter: CR 5; mechanical; location trigger; no reset; Atk +10 melee (4D6, bludgeoning), hits all targets in 2m radius; Burning Fuel (roll 1d100, if result >=75 treat character as poisoned, 1d6 damage per second until doused with water or otherwise put out); Search DC 30; Disable Device DC 20. Market Price: unknown (unique). Special - Blades (All characters within 5m of trap landing site and standing must make a DC 15 reflex save or take 6D6 of Slashing damage).

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  62. Power/Weight Ratio by rtyhurst · · Score: 1

    Nigerian dude has a big problem with power/weight ratio.

    I spent a couple of weeks one summer being flown around in a Bell Jet Ranger, doing survey archaeology.

    That thing had a gas turbine engine with sufficient power to lift four people (plus gear) and fly at 200 kph at 2000 m.

    The engine was the size of a Honda four-cylinder.

    An automotive engine is not going to cut it, unless he boosts the compression ratio to about 40 to 1 (which will have instantaneous and messy consequences).

    I wish him good luck.

    But also: good engines.

  63. The Real Story... by vrmlguy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Request for urgent business relationship

    First, I must solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and 'top secret'. I am sure and have confidence of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of this great magnitude involving a pending transaction requiring maximum confidence.

    I am a physics undergraduate in northern Nigeria who is interested in production of helicopters with funds which are presently trapped in Nigeria. In order to commence this business we solicit your assistance to enable us to transfer into your account the said trapped funds.

    The source of this fund is as follows; during the last military regime here in Nigeria, the government officials set up aircraft companies and awarded themselves contracts which were grossly over-invoiced in various ministries. The present civilian government set up a contract review panel and we have identified a lot of inflated military contract funds which are presently floating in the central bank of Nigeria ready for payment.

    However, by virtue of my position as a physics undergraduate, I cannot acquire this money in my name. I have therefore, been delegated as a matter of trust by my colleagues of the university to look for an overseas partner into whose account we would transfer the sum of US$21,320,000.00 (twenty one million, three hundred and twenty thousand US dollars). Hence we are writing you this letter. We have agreed to share the money thus; 1. 20% for the account owner 2. 70% for us (the students) 3. 10% to be used in settling taxation and all local and foreign expenses. It is from the 70% that we wish to commence the helicopter manufacturing business.

    Please, note that this transaction is 100% safe and we hope to commence the transfer latest seven (7) banking days from the date of the receipt of the following information by telephone/fax; 234-1-7740449, your signed and stamped letterhead paper. The above information will enable us write letters of claim and job description respectively. This way we will use your name to apply for payment and re-award the contract in your name.

    We are looking forward to doing this business with you and solicit your confidentiality in this transaction. Please acknowledge the receipt of this letter using the above telephone/fax numbers. I will send you detailed information of this pending project when I have heard from you.

    Yours faithfully,

    Dr Mubarak Muhammad Abdullahi

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  64. I really can't be the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who thinks "airborn spam"...?

  65. First steps of many. by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

    This Nigerian has a great idea. Remember we, in the western world, have an advantage of over hundred years of steps and missteps before we got to this state of flight but even then we still have accidents. Remember that Niger doesn't have a state of the art aeronautical program hence the large amounts of accidents there and most of Africa so like the western world in the early part the heavier than air flight they need some help and good engineering to get up to speed. This person who built this, like any kit plane, has the understanding of principal of aerodynamics and physics so this is a start but he needs later understand material sciences to get to the next level. Remember he is a under graduate in college so he still has much to learn so give this person a break. We geeks have built enough things in our lives and most of them break and we learn from those experiences so we can do better on the next try and this learning process will go on forever so if he crashes, as long as he doesn't kill himself or other s he an try again and learn.

  66. As they say in NASA by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

    Faster, better, cheaper. Pick two.

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  67. Snarky reply by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I can't help but think, if I wanted to go seven feet up in the air I would use a ladder.

    That said, cool idea to build your own copter...

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Snarky reply by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      But the helicopter will win from the ladder in the 100 mile dash across the savanna. Similar to a ground effect plane I would say. It could have uses.

  68. Re: -1 redundant by aicrules · · Score: 1

    I just modded you insightful!

    Oops...

  69. Ah, yes, clueless libertarian propaganda FTW by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, it's kinda f. The fact is, all first world governments nowadays are essentially Keynesian. There have been some minor refinements of it, but essentially no big change to the core of it. The whole USA, EU _and_ Commonwealth (the UK one, not the ex-USSR) still _are_ keynesian, and the majority of economists still are keynesian. By what kind of reckoning, then, is it not modern any more?

    There are fringe groups (e.g., the Libertarians, since you've linked to that site) which think that Keynes is wrong or outdated, that much is clear. But it will become "not modern" when, you know, at least one major first-world economy runs on something better. A theory only supercedes the old one when it's been tried and tested, not when one fringe group starts screaming that they know better. The way I see it, the Libertarians don't as much have "theories" now, they just have an untested "hypothesis". They think they know better how the economy should be run, but we don't really have any proof that things actually work that way.

    In fact, if we're talking Libertarians, most signs point at "we've already been there, and it didn't work too well." Which places even more burden of proof on the ones claiming to know better. If I jumped off the house once and broke my leg, someone damn better have a very convincing proof that jumping off the house is good.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying their view is necessarily wrong. Who knows, they could even be right. Just that it's untested, and _didn't_ replace Keynesian economics yet.

    As for that site and analysis of the Great Depression... well, I didn't have the time for an in-depth study of that particular text yet, but let's just say, as a superficial impression and gut feeling that:

    1. Well, I might even take that site seriously, if it wasn't an overt libertarian propaganda site. The emphasis not being even as much on "libertarian" as on "propaganda". You only need to click on their "about" link to basically be told, in so many words, that it's all about propaganda. It speaks over and over again about being born out of a vision that they don't just need ideas, they need to disseminate them.

    And somehow I don't expect a balanced view of the world from a site which is (A) overtly aligned with one point of view as their holy truth, and (B) overtly dedicated to bringing the Word to the masses. It's akin to asking for an unbiased academic discussion of the world's religions on Vatican's site.

    2. Suspiciously enough, it also runs contrary the more mainstream analyses of the Great Depression which, funnily enough, are the exact opposite.

    The fact is, the USA government didn't even have the means to do that at the time. It also omits the fact that it was just the latest and biggest of a whole cycle of booms-and-depressions that plagued the whole 19'th century and early 20'th century, most of which happened in decisively laissez faire times. (I.e., practically libertarian times.) And which cycles are not only documented everywhere, but even Marx's prediction of a self-destruction of capitalism was based on them. It was _that_ predictable where it's headed. It also seems to blatantly omit the fact that countries where the government _did_ massively spend (e.g., the USA with its New Deal, Germany with its rearmament, etc) got out of the depression the fastest, while those who stuck to lean government ideas (e.g., Canada) were stuck with a depression until the 40's, when they finally got dragged into WW2. Etc.

    Briefly, it just seems to be a bit too unbelievable a whole to swallow.

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  70. errr..... just like we shouldn't .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....attempt to roll our own operating systems ? I appreciate that the the opportunity to do oneself harm is appreciably higher with a home grown helicopter, but I can't help but think the position of Logic and Reason is a bit off in the context this particular forum.

  71. Your help needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My beloved brother Mubarak Muhammed Abdullahi recently pass away in crash. He left behind a vast amount of dollars from home made helicopter company. This monies tied up in bank and I need your help in securing funds for which I share with you 20%. All replies to Anonymous Coward treated secret and in trust.

  72. Who the hell measured this thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think some idiot wrote the story with the wrong measurements. This chopper is CLEARLY not SEVEN METERS tall, FIVE METERS wide and TWELVE METERS long. More like seven FEET by five FEET by twelve FEET just based on the guy standing in the background of the picture.

  73. Stanley Hiller did it.. by Sporkinum · · Score: 2, Informative
    Stanley Hiller did it, so why not this young Nigerian? His chopper was yellow too!
    http://www.hiller.org/in_memory.shtml/

    Stanley finished high school despite the many extracurricular activities in his life, entering the University of California at Berkeley at age 16. His college phase lasted but a year: he was consumed with the history and technology of vertical flight, intensifying his designing of a co-axial with the aid of a draftsman, a welder and a part-time auto mechanic. Although many materials were frozen by the War Production Board, he managed to improvise a 100-pound model. Discouraged by Army officials, the 17-year-old inventor lugged his aircraft and drawings to Washington DC, where higher authorities not only permitted his proposed XH-44 helicopter to be finished, but granted Stanley a deferment from the draft board.

    Although UC Berkeley had little chance to influence young Stanley because he dropped out to build his business at the end of his freshman year, the university did yield the love of his life, Carolyn Balsdon, whom he married when they were both 22.

    By 1944, Stanley Hiller, Jr., completed the first successful flight of a helicopter in the western United States. He flew his yellow fabric-covered contraption himself, although he had never flown a helicopter nor seen one fly. After at least one mishap, in August of that year a successful demonstration was made at San Francisco's Marina Green, where a plaque today commemorates the historic event. The flight propelled the young inventor-who had no engineering degrees and, in fact, never finished college-into international headlines. He became the youngest person ever to receive the coveted Fawcett Aviation Award for major contributions to the advancement of aviation. Eventually, the little co-axial XH-44 "Hiller-Copter" would earn a permanent place in Smithsonian Institution.
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  74. try it in the usa by MM_LONEWOLF · · Score: 1

    imagine if he did it here. He'd probably be shot down by some trigger-happy f-16 pilot if he got anywhere close to an air force base, even if the FAA ever certified him as a pilot or the helicopter as an aerial vehicle. Still, it doesn't hurt to dream. I'm just waiting for the story about how some high-schooler mounted a paintball machine gun on the side to harass people.

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    1. Re:try it in the usa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >He'd probably be shot down by some trigger-happy f-16 pilot if he got anywhere close to an air force base

      More likely, he'd be pulled over by a traffic cop. Possibly, one on foot.

  75. For those of you that want to build and fly by DebianDog · · Score: 1
    Having built quite a few RC Helicopter kits myself and having crashed many times due to some type of mechanical or electrical issue... I am not really sure where I stand on this. I mean kudos to the guy for building the thing. I have seen LOTS of home built RC helis but, I doubt seriously I would ever jump in to some home built, real, scale helicopter. I think the Mini 500 proved that cheaply built helicopters are a BAD idea.

    For those of you that want to learn to build and fly a RC Helicopter check out HeliFreak.com. Heck, they have helicopter build videos from box to flight you can download for FREE! Building a model is not as exciting but it has got to be a 100 times safer ;)

  76. 6 Buttons by bleckywelcky · · Score: 1

    Anyone else do a double-take-wtf at this?

    "The cockpit consists of a push-button ignition, an accelerator lever between the seats which controls vertical thrust, a joystick that provides balance and bearing.

    A small screen on the dashboard connects to a camera underneath the helicopter for ground vision, a set of six buttons adjusts the screen's brightness while a small transmitter is used for communication."

    Let's see ...
    Button 1: Brighter
    Button 2: Darker
    Buttons 3 through 6: ???

    1. Re:6 Buttons by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      - on
      - off
      - reset
      - dump to make the helicopter light enough to hopefully clear that bush ahead.

  77. Contact Info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone have any contact information for this guy? (E-mail address?) I'd love to Paypal him a few dollars to help with his endevours(sp?) This fellow obviously has talent and I'd personally be honored to help him buy more parts for his chopper or just help pay for part of his college textbook or something.

  78. No, heavier aircraft do fall faster ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    "The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky."

    Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again.


    You are a little quick to quote physics, the earlier author demonstates a better understanding than you. We are discussing aircraft here, in addition to gravity we also have lift. While gravity is equal on light and heavy aircraft lift tends not to be. Heavier aircraft are usually less efficient with respect to lift. Greater airspeed normally compensates for this.

    1. Re:No, heavier aircraft do fall faster ... by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      "The heavier it is, the faster it falls from the sky."

      Actually, Galileo demonstrated that weight does not change the speed at which something falls. You might want to go back and take your high school physics class again.


      You are a little quick to quote physics, the earlier author demonstates a better understanding than you. We are discussing aircraft here, in addition to gravity we also have lift. While gravity is equal on light and heavy aircraft lift tends not to be. Heavier aircraft are usually less efficient with respect to lift. Greater airspeed normally compensates for this. That is a primarily a function of shape, not weight. In this particular case (comparing a helicopter to the Wright Brothers' first plane), shape would be the overwhelming determining factor in the difference in the speed at which they fell.
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    2. Re:No, heavier aircraft do fall faster ... by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

      For a helicopter I would think autorotation would be a greater factor than shape.

  79. Online donations for Nigerian air safety by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    The safety record of air travel in Africa is already so bad that it can't get any worse.

    Perhaps we could create some sort of online mechanism to solicit donations to improve Nigerian air safety. An email campaign? ;-)

    1. Re:Online donations for Nigerian air safety by triso · · Score: 1

      Perhaps we could create some sort of online mechanism to solicit donations to improve Nigerian air safety. An email campaign? ;-) I say we send our donations by Western Union.

  80. Re: D&D Trap worthy of Tomb of Horrors by cplusplus · · Score: 1

    Only on slashdot would a bunch of D&D dice stats be modded +5 Insightful. I LOL'd. Really.

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  81. 2nd Snarky Reply by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    But the helicopter will win from the ladder in the 100 mile dash across the savanna.

    If by "win" you mean some parts of him will cross the finish line before me carrying my ladder, then I suppose it's possible given the velocity of the blades...

    From reading the article it really seemed like this was not a thing built for durability!

    I totally get what you are saying about a ground effect air vechicle though, that could be a cool thing. Like a more multi-purpose airboat. And being just fifteen or twenty feet up, you wouldn't worry as much about engine failure if you protected the passenger well enough (perhaps bike armor and a strong rollcage).

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    1. Re:2nd Snarky Reply by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      Safety! Now there's a new thought. He'll be hunting for some motorcycle helmets soon.
      A weak helicopter has an advantage over a real ground effect plane that it's better at avoiding obstacles (a 21 foot bush) but once the surface gets rough things start to eh, get rough.
      A ground effect vehicle above the jungle would go well for a few miles and then suddenly you drop through the foliage.

  82. Ground effect... by argent · · Score: 1

    15' is enough to do useful things you couldn't do with a hovercraft.

    If it's a ground effect vehicle, it's a hovercraft, whether it looks like one or not. Ground effect isn't restricted to craft that have a mechanical wall around their air cushion, and it operates to quite a high altitude... there's a good argument that the Wright Brothers' "flier" and a lot of the other early airplanes were actually operating on ground effect and not free-flight lift.

    I'd like to know how he arrived at 15' as a service ceiling. How would the aircraft know the difference between 15' on one day and 30' on day with higher air pressure?

    That's the most likely reason to treat it as a hovercraft, not a helicopter, and operating on ground effect. That is, the 15' service ceiling would be the limit to how high it actually can get above the ground.

  83. Moller needs to move to Nigeria? by argent · · Score: 1

    If Moller can't do free flight tests of a device with 4 partially redundant engines in the US, and this guy can fly his single-engine car-engine-powered "helicopter" without a problem in Nigeria, it sounds like Moller's doing his development in the wrong country.

  84. Mod parent up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Considering the parent's sibling, it should probably be informative.

  85. homebrew in Afghanistan by durdur · · Score: 1

    The book Ghost Wars, by Steve Coll, tells the story of the CIA, which was supporting the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan against the Taliban. The Alliance was flying helicopters out of a foreign base (in Tajikistan, IIRC). The CIA rode along from time to time. But the Soviet copter they were flying in made them nervous, so they dispatched a CIA mechanic to have a look inside. He opens it up and finds an Indian-made helicopter engine wired up somehow to drive the Soviet chopper. He carefully closes it up, backs away, and the CIA never goes near that machine again. They bought their own Russian surplus helicopter and hired their own paid staff to maintain it.

  86. I am guessing that.. by keirre23hu · · Score: 1

    By your post, you may have clicked the link next to my name and noticed that I am a _black_ doctoral student. If you did and you used those words to anger me - then fuck you. If you didn't - and were just using them to make a point, then Ill just say that I am fully aware of the racism that is in this country. I lived all over it and was born and spent 6 years growing up in Germany - and guess what, I saw racism there too - I find it funny that alot of the world likes to lecture the US on racism, when the problem isnt confined to our country. Does our hypocrisy in that regard bother me - yes it does, to my core... there are people who come on this site and use all matter of slurs, when my family has been in this country for over 300 years, and my relatives have fought in every war from WWII on. For that reason, it doesnt really matter what people with that mindset think.

    The posts I saw bothered me because I remember a few years ago how excited people on this site got seeing some jackass hook up a E-450R server in his van to play Mp-3s (later turned out to be a hoax i think) - big accomplishment to use - a computer to play mp3s, vs. a young man who built a helicopter out of scrap leftovers and taught himself how to fly it even if it barely picks up altitude.

  87. sorry... by keirre23hu · · Score: 1

    I think I replied to the wrong post.. shutting down the computer now.. and going to do other things..

  88. Dirty cheap humanitarian equipment ? by DrYak · · Score: 1

    Additionally this student may have found a very interesting business :

    - helicopter are vehicle that are very valuable in some humanitarian situation (can bring in food or take out evacuee in region whose road access have been cut by natural catastrophes), yet are very expensive, and thus not really accessible in the poorest region that may need them the most.

    - he proved that he can build an functional unit out of scrapes for very low budget.

    - now if he can develop some similarly cheap way to test the machine and see if it is secure enough to fly and transport people and goods, he may have the chopper equivalent of the OLPC : a valuable tool which traditionally didn't have a cost affordable in the 3rd world and which can now be acquired and used to perform important rescue mission.

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  89. He's a biggen... by pookemon · · Score: 1

    "For a four-seater it is a big aircraft, measuring twelve metres (39 feet) long, seven metres high by five wide. It has never attained an altitude of more than seven feet."

    Looking at the image on the article, that makes him about 6 metres tall and probably a metre or two wide. I think we can assume that none of those measurements are correct...

    Or maybe it's 7 metres tall when the rotor breaks and folds upwards...

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  90. Re: D&D Trap worthy of Tomb of Horrors by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

    When it comes to crashing helicopters my philosophy is to just let everyone roll against 20D damage and let karma (or the burning thereof) sort it out. Life can be so easy in the shadows... for the GM, that is.

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  91. RTFA? Surely, sir, you Jest by maz2331 · · Score: 1

    n/t.

  92. Mechanics 101 Day 1 Lecture 1 by adamkennedy · · Score: 1
    One of my more enjoyable (academic-related) memories from my uni days.

    Hi, my name is Dr Ford, I'm the head of the Mechanical Engineering Faculty here at the University.

    Each year I also like to give the first class in Mechanics, the cornerstone of your degree.

    Before we begin, I'd like to caution you all.

    In high school you may have heard your teachers dumb down problems with caveats like 'ignoring air resistance'.

    We don't let you get away with that kind of crap here.

    Righto, lets being... I'm paraphrasing a little, but yes this was the actual introduction.
  93. Attilla, you've always been an ass by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The guy plainly said that it falls from the sky.
    Galileo wasn't in the sky when he tested his theory. He was just like on a tower or something.

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  94. Oops! There goes the bell curve theory ... by Rockin'Robert · · Score: 0

    And, Bell Helicopter shares to boot?
    RR

  95. Thats whats wrong with businessmen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, that's because of something very much like opportunity cost. If you recall from economics, if you invest your money with a return of X, when you could have invested it with a greater return Y, then you have in effect incurred a cost of Y-X. Let's say the first investment was a socially responsible investment fund that earned you $1000, and the second was in a profitable rape-the-earth-and-the-poor fund that would have earned you $1500. You just spent $500 for the satisfaction of being true to your values.


    No, you have "been true to your values AND gotten a return of X instead of a return of 0".
    Investing is speculative risk. There is no guarantee that you would have earned that $1500. Sometimes you alter the value of things by purchasing them.
  96. and.. by RockoTDF · · Score: 1

    ...I for one welcome our new nigerian car-copter overlords!

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  97. He has a lot of brains, and a lot of guts by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

    Yes, he has a lot of brains, and a lot of guts. And if he keeps flying homemade helicopters without regard for safety, these will be on display over a wide area soon enough.

    Still, kudos.

  98. Why not create their own money? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    Poverty is, basically, a vicious circle. You don't get a loan because you're poor, and you can't get out of poverty without some money to industrialize with. Of course. Loans have debts attached.

    And, yes, I can understand why the banks don't want to risk that money.) Really? Do you know where the banks get the money they loan out? Why they were willing to risk it on people with no income, no job and no assets?

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  99. You choose the worst example. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Many car industries (Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, India and soon China) were started in precisely that way.

    The Malaysian company for example owns Lotus, and China is serious about becoming a big time exporter of cars (and they will succeed).

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  100. Labout to spare.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... which is sent to rich countries, just to be received as criminals...

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    1. Re:Labout to spare.... by sjames · · Score: 1

      ... which is sent to rich countries, just to be received as criminals...

      Another fine reason to employ the labor pool locally in public works.

  101. Like this Rookie Copter Pilot Crash? (video) by StCredZero · · Score: 1

    Amazingly, the guy walks away from this.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=mo82pnyMR44

    That African kid is amazing he can do all that. Even more amazing that he's managed to fly the thing. I hope he can keep himself from getting killed. What talent!

  102. Re:Like this Rookie Copter Pilot Crash? (video) by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

    I've seen that before. I can't tell you how much it bothers me. I guess that guy video taping it should just be glad that his idiot friend couldn't afford a bigger helicopter.

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