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Apple 10.4.11 Update Can Brick Macs With Boot Camp

g-san writes "Some Mac users are having problems with the latest 10.4.11 update, yours truly included. The problem seems to be caused by the presence of a Boot Camp partition and renders the Mac unable to reboot after the update fails. Note the Geniuses at the Apple stores are recommending a full disk wipe; but data can be recovered via Firewire." MacNN has a note up that if you fall victim to this "known issue" and need to reformat the disk, you can't reinstall Boot Camp because it is no longer available to OS X 10.4 Tiger users.

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  1. Macs by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Funny

    "They just _work_."

    1. Re:Macs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gasp! Something makes them unable to run... WINDOWS!!!

      MS has the same thing. It's called "VISTA"

    2. Re:Macs by kernelfoobar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Didn't you know? 'brick' is a buzzword and as you know, to be popular, you have to use buzzwords as much as you can regardless if it applies or not. It's the same type of people that write: l33t h4x0r pwn3s you n00b5 LOLs!!!!111

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    3. Re:Macs by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes. A bricked Mac was back when there was that audio CD with the copy-protection scheme, that crashed the OS as soon as the disk was inserted, and on all subsequent reboots. Since the Mac doesn't have a physical eject button for the CD, the whole system unit had to be shipped to a repair depot where they could eject the offending CD.

      Now, _that_ was a bricked Mac.

    4. Re:Macs by xENoLocO · · Score: 4, Funny

      This comment is offensive to the n00b5 worldwide who have in fact been pwn3d by l33t h4x0rz.

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    5. Re:Macs by Reverend528 · · Score: 4, Funny

      1) Dual boot OS X and Windows
      2) ???
      3) Failure!

    6. Re:Macs by fireman+sam · · Score: 1, Funny

      My M4X0R 1Z 8R1X0RD ... Damn I'm 4 1337 H4X0R!

      *translation*

      My Mac is bricked ... I am a loser.

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    7. Re:Macs by dwater · · Score: 5, Funny

      Your problem is that you're not thinking different enough.

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    8. Re:Macs by Lehk228 · · Score: 3, Funny

      remember the "drag the hard drive to the trash to eject it" bug? i can't remember which version of mac OS it was, something pre OS9 I think.

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    9. Re:Macs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      From a management perspective, RedHat/Ubuntu == Apple.

      For sufficiently small values of Apple.

      -Kelly

    10. Re:Macs by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Funny

      "it would be cheaper and easier to purchase a new computer..." We're talking about Macs here. Cheap is not an option.

    11. Re:Macs by MikePikeFL · · Score: 2, Funny

      Haha, I first read that as "Maxtor" and thought "yep, that sounds about right."

      Then I read the translation.

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    12. Re:Macs by Splab · · Score: 2, Funny

      About a year ago I was working as a sysadmin, an iMac came in and was tagged for disposal, but to ensure no data could be extracted we needed the HDD. Those things are build like Fort Knox, in the end I dismantled it using a hammer, bit hard to get it back together again I guess, but luckily not an issue there.

  2. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I guess Vista isn't the worst operating system update ever.

  3. OSX 10.4.11 by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just reached #11 on CNET UK's "Worst Consumer Tech" list ;)

    *ducks*

  4. So you claim Bricking is the correct term? by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    And you just lost all your geek cred trying to shoot down someone who is *properly* defining what bricking really means.

    Don't worry, a new UID will suit you well.

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  5. How to make users move forward by 4D6963 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft, listen and learn, because Apple is doing things the right way. You've released a pretty buggy, poorly designed major revision of your OS, alright, why not, but right then you release a service pack to your previous major version of your OS to make it better. This is NOT the way to go!

    In order to make your users move on to your new but inferior major revision, you need to ruin the version of your OS that everyone is using. Just look at how Apple handled it. They just released a pretty buggy major revision of their OS, but it's okay! Because to make up for it they updated the previous version that everybody was using so that computers equipped with it won't even boot anymore! This way users are more than eager to move on to the new version, despite its flaws!

    Steve Jobs' genius will never cease from amazing us, nor shall you cease from learning from it.

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  6. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    An unconcious person is clearly not dead. Totally wrong. He is bricked.

  7. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Should I buy and keep a second Mac to be able use Firewire mode in case like this?

    Yes, please buy another mac.

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  8. Its like a tazer by CircularHowler · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dont brick me bro!!

  9. Standard reply to end users by guruevi · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's what you get for trying to run Windows.

    I know this will burn my karma.

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    1. Re:Standard reply to end users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Insulting windows users burns karma? News to me...

  10. Re:Try This Instead: by iminplaya · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you have access to another Mac that is still working:...

    My Mac Plus is still working. Do you know where I can find a Firewire to Scuzzy adapter?

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  11. Re:Yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Not really involved nor interested in this discussion. Just a quick question:

    Do you realize you're acting like a douche on the internet? Got anything better to do?

  12. Not a case of bricking. by Pyrion · · Score: 2, Funny

    As they're too big to be bricks.

    "Boat anchoring" perhaps?

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  13. cease and desist by CarpetShark · · Score: 1, Funny

    I agree that it does not render the MAc bricked


    PLEASE stop using this term "bricked" around IT stuff. Here in the UK at least, it does not mean what you think it means. Here's a few typical UK uses of the word. Spot the one that your use verges on:

    * I'll use these bricks to build a wall.
    * It's about the size of a brick.
    * I wasn't just scared; I was shitting bricks.