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Top Ten Scientific Discoveries of 2007

Josh Fink writes "Time Magazine has a piece about the top 10 scientific discoveries of 2007. '#1. Stem Cell Breakthroughs - In November, Shinya Yamanaka of Kyoto University and molecular biologist James Thomson of the University of Wisconsin reported that they had reprogrammed regular skin cells to behave just like embryonic stem cells. The breakthrough may someday allow scientists to create stem cells without destroying embryos -- sidestepping the sticky ethical issues and opposition from the U.S. government that surround embryonic stem-cell research -- but that day is still a ways off. ' Also included in the top 10 editorial are pieces on the top 10 medical breakthroughs, the top 10 man made disasters and the top 10 green 'ideas'."

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  1. And on Slashdot by Facetious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Top 10 most duped articles.

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    1. Re:And on Slashdot by flaming+error · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who modded the first post "redundant"?

    2. Re:And on Slashdot by Facetious · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There are some seriously angry people with mod points today. I expect this one will get "-1: Flamebait"

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    3. Re:And on Slashdot by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      "Who modded the first post "redundant"?"

      Why should posters be exempt from the silliness they accuse Slashdot of?

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    4. Re:And on Slashdot by jacquesm · · Score: 1

      I didn't realize the year was over already...

    5. Re:And on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self fulfilling prophecy if ever there was one.

    6. Re:And on Slashdot by Cairnarvon · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      There are a lot of people with mod points out there who don't seem to have access to dictionaries.

    7. Re:And on Slashdot by cybermage · · Score: 1

      Complaining about dupes in Slashdot is meta-redundant.

    8. Re:And on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If complaining about dupes is "meta-redundant", what do you call posting dupes?

  2. Strange by JKSN17 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Strange...Windows Vista didn't make the list...hmm

    1. Re:Strange by explosivejared · · Score: 1, Funny

      Even stranger, Ballmer's doctoral thesis on fluid-chair dynamics didn't make it either. I haven't read it, but I hear that his chair throwing machine almost achieves perpetual motion.

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    2. Re:Strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iPhone and iPod touch should definitely be on the list. I mean Apple basically invented the touch screen, they invented touch screen keyboards and the ability to make phone calls to each other over the GSM spec. Pffft, we should all stop with all this thinking and research and just get an iphone. It's the end-all of breakthroughs. We've...well Apple has discovered all there is to be discovered. Just get an iphone and join the collective. Leave the thinking to the 'pros'.

    3. Re:Strange by sorak · · Score: 1

      Strange...Windows Vista didn't make the list...hmm

      No, but it did make the top Ten Man-Made Disast...Oh never mind. Too easy

    4. Re:Strange by rhyder128k · · Score: 1

      I think that you have, perhaps, understated the importance of those two marvellous inventions.

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    5. Re:Strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither did any OS. Stop being a douche bag and write a comment of value.

    6. Re:Strange by lostfayth · · Score: 1

      Strange...Windows Vista didn't make the list...hmm
      It's on the "top 10 man made disasters" page.
  3. Correction: by Dan667 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "opposition from the U.S. government"

    Should read

    "opposition from the Bush Administration"

    1. Re:Correction: by speculatrix · · Score: 1

      > "opposition from the Bush Administration"
      maybe Bush is worried that all the scientific research will discover he's the missing link in the fossil records?

  4. htmlslideshow by Hyram+Graff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Warning: This article links to four top ten lists that only display one item at a time.

    I hope Time gets paid per impression because that's the only way they'll get ad revenue from me. (And viewing all of those forty pages seems like a good way to punish the advertizers who enable articles like these.)

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    1. Re:htmlslideshow by john83 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Warning: This article links to four top ten lists that only display one item at a time.

      I hope Time gets paid per impression because that's the only way they'll get ad revenue from me. (And viewing all of those forty pages seems like a good way to punish the advertizers who enable articles like these.) Unless someone else posts these top ten lists, I won't be reading them at all. I refuse to view Time's website at all for exactly this reason.
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    2. Re:htmlslideshow by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      I also middle-click on every ad, and then middle-click to close the tab :-)

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    3. Re:htmlslideshow by tsa · · Score: 1

      I'm with you. Usually if you click on 'print' you get all pages on the same webpage (if you get my drift) but here it only prints what you see. No top 10 lists for me.

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  5. Dissapointing by log1385 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple of the "scientific discoveries" weren't really that important to science. Discovering the brightest supernova or the oldest living animal have their merit, but really they're just interesting things that people found. Something like this deserved to be on the list instead: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/01/22/photon-storage.html

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    1. Re:Dissapointing by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Discovering the brightest supernova or the oldest living animal have their merit, but really they're just interesting things that people found.

      The oldest animal is important. There's a huge debate in medicine about whether ageing is a disease process or a biological inevitability for animals. Finding really old animals supports the 'disease' argument, since the evidence is increasing those clams at least don't seem to age.

      You could argue that this is a real scientific advance, whereas others like the photon storage you cite are just a technological advances of no real scientific merit.

    2. Re:Dissapointing by JoeSavage · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anyone else find it ironic that they had to frickin' kill the oldest animal in existence just to determine its age?

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    3. Re:Dissapointing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The supernova was quite significant to astrophysics. SN2006gy appears to be a new class of supernova, and thus has changed the way we think of the late evolution of massive starts. I would argue that this was one of the few discoveries that actually deserved to be on the list.

      http://mrsquid.blogspot.com/

    4. Re:Dissapointing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Photon storage is lame too unless they put it on the iphone.

    5. Re:Dissapointing by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      I take issue with your point about photon storage. Technological advances over the past 30 years is what has driven other industries. Could we sequence DNA as fast as we do without processing power, storage capacity, and robotics? Could we model drugs in the lab? Could we design aircraft and space vehicles with the certainty provided to us by digital modeling?

    6. Re:Dissapointing by brunson · · Score: 1

      And if any of us get old enough, be sure that they'll kill you to figure out how you did it.

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    7. Re:Dissapointing by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 1

      Its kind of a shame, yes, but not that much if you think about it. This is the oldest one they've found, but there are probably plenty of others that are older down there. Leaving it alive wasn't going to teach anybody anything, whether if it lived a few more years or died wouldn't help really. And quite frankly clams don't make particularly good pets.

    8. Re:Dissapointing by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      iPhone? iPhooey! I say we make TORPEDOS out of them damned photons!

      -mcgrew

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    9. Re:Dissapointing by MrCreosote · · Score: 1

      how else are you going to count the rings?

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    10. Re:Dissapointing by stranger_to_himself · · Score: 1

      I take issue with your point about photon storage.

      Of course you do, I was trolling. But I think the point is valid. Important and awesome as these technological advances are, they don't constitute a contribution to knowledge. If you use the photon thingy to actually discover something, then that's science. Otherwise you've just solved an engineering problem.

      I worked in a computational biology lab once. A big argument at the time concerned whether or not students could be awarded a PhD if all they did was software engineering for scientific applications. I think it was decided that it could be the bulk of their work, but only if an application was then made to a dataset that provided a genuine biological insight. I'm not saying it was right or wrong, but it's an important issue.

  6. Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells..." by nweaver · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lost in the "Oh goody, non embrionic stem cells" congradulatory bit on the part of the zealots is they forget that this is also "big step towards human cloning".

    I want my clone damnit!

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  7. heh, and they missed the most important part by ByOhTek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    they had reprogrammed regular skin cells to behave just like embryonic stem cells. The breakthrough may someday allow scientists to create stem cells without destroying embryos -- sidestepping the sticky ethical issues and opposition from the U.S. government that surround embryonic stem-cell research -- but that day is still a ways off.


    And more importantly, since these stem cells will have the exact genetic material (slightly shorter telomeres, but theres so much junk at the end it would take a total of about 500 no-telomerase activity years of life before that cause any genetic difference that would impact organsim traits) of an organizm that can be examined and studied, a lot more use experimentation can be performed with them, with a lot less effort.
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  8. In other news, top 10 things I've procrastinated. by Seakip18 · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Changing to D2
    2. Coming up with a good critique of why there isn't really a top "10"
    3. extend that with how it belittles the rest of the work that has been done
    4. complain about not gettin /. anniversary t-shirt.
    5. Change sig
    6.

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  9. Interesting combos by InvisblePinkUnicorn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Soon to come... the Top Ten Green Ideas Turned Man-Made Disasters, and the Top Ten Man-Made Disasters Turned Medical Breakthroughs.

  10. Discovery #0... by noidentity · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... 2007 hasn't ended yet!

    (I hate these "top X of this year" before the year has even ended, though at least this one is less than a month early)

    1. Re:Discovery #0... by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then let's all make a pact:

      "If I make a significant scientific breakthrough, I will postpone its announcement, to the best of my ability, until December 20th of that year, so as to screw over moronic publishers who do 'year-in-review' specials before that year is over."

    2. Re:Discovery #0... by Maint_Pgmr_3 · · Score: 1
      Are you sure this isn't the 2008 top ten, why want for next year, lets have the media tell you now what next year will bring.

      For years, that disaster has been unfolding so slowly that it's been invisible.
      There is a New York Times article from 1998 that tell me that it wasn't "invisible", oh, wait, the Clean Air Act of 1970 cleaned up the smog problem by turning it into Global Warming, which was acknowledged in 1998.

      Although many regard the Federal Clean Air Act of 1970 (FCAA) as the beginning of air pollution control in the United States, the national quest for clean air began long before.
      http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~eesi/scs/SIP.pdf

      Despite the multi-pronged clean-air campaign, there is a long way to go. It will take until 2007 to 2010, on the basis of E.P.A. projections, for Connecticut and the rest of the nation to breathe air that meets Federal ozone standards. And reducing airborne soot will take even longer, until 2015 at the earliest.
      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9403E1D91238F932A05756C0A96E958260 "Where the Bad Air Comes From" By JAY AXELBANK Published: May 31, 1998

    3. Re:Discovery #0... by houghi · · Score: 1

      That is what God did when he send us a Tsunami that killed a few hundred thousand.

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    4. Re:Discovery #0... by butterwise · · Score: 1

      until December 20th of that year
      Ummm... My calendar says December has 31 days; why not postpone until New Year's Eve?
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  11. Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by coinreturn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In October, researchers from Bangor University in Wales were trawling an ocean shelf off the coast of north Iceland when they stumbled on what is believed to be the world's oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam. Or it was living, until researchers had to kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

    Aren't we just a great at discovering?

    1. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 4, Funny

      The real question is -- how did it taste?

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    2. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Kabuthunk · · Score: 1

      That's what I was thinking. Like... what was going through their mind?!?

      Scientist 1: Look at this... the oldest known living creature on earth.
      Scientist 2: Let's kill it.
      Scientist 1: Agreed.

      I mean seriously... they couldn't wait until it died naturally? Or failing that... with all of the scanning technologies available nowadays, they weren't able to look at it's shell without killing it? Or take a tiny sliver of said shell?

      I'm probably just not understanding the methods required to find it's age... but seriously, if I were to find the oldest known living creature in existance, I'd probably create an artificial home identical to where it was and leave it there for however many generations it takes for it to die naturally.

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    3. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation please :)

      Not that I don't believe you.

    4. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071029-oldest-clam.html

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/28/nclam128.xml

      ``The "Arctica islandica" was among a haul of 3,000 empty shells and 34 live molluscs taken to the laboratory.''

      ``Unfortunately, by the time its true age had been established Ming was already dead. But the scientists aged the 3.4in clam from its shell which like trees has a layer or ring of growth for every year that the animal has been alive.''

    5. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Scientist 1: Look at this... the oldest known living creature on earth.

      Scientist 2: Let's kill it.

      I don't think that's quite the sequence of events -- the clam didn't come up with an "Oldest Known Living Creature On Earth!" sign on its back! They dredged up some samples, examined them and found this one to be remarkably old.

    6. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

      Aren't we just a great at discovering? You're aware that had any other sea creature discovered the clam, it would have been eaten. That's life.
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    7. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      You're aware that had any other sea creature discovered the clam, it would have been eaten. That's life.

      Not necessarily. Only humans kill for the hell of it. It had been alive for over 400 fucking years!

    8. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by junglee_iitk · · Score: 1

      You're aware that had any other sea creature discovered the clam, it would have been eaten. That's life.
      You mean that no other sea creature had discovered the clam in 405 years? Or that it was already dead?
    9. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Kabuthunk · · Score: 1

      I had thought of that, but only after I had posted. A creature that's living a full 1/3rd of it's lifespan in addition to it's regular lifespan has GOT to be at least a bit visibly different than say... the usual 200-year old type.

      I may be mistaken, and it may well be nigh-identical to every other one out there... but if the shell alone can tell you how old it is, surely they must have a 'quick-test' to at least give you a ballpark age that leaves it alive, before you go and smash it with a hammer. It's like seeing a psychotically massive redwood tree. The first thought that would come to MY mind wouldn't be to hack it down to find it's age. Perhaps run a few tests if something looks unusual about it.

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    10. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Tarlus · · Score: 1

      This is way off topic.
      But here out of the blue, I come across Kabutroid on Slashdot.
      Small world! :)
      (-Jesse D)

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    11. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      "He who breaks a thing to understand it, has left the path of wisdom."
      -- Gandalf the scienti-- no wait, he was a wizard! Aha, now I finally understand the difference between magic and science!

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    12. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same way Europeans "discovered" the "New" World...

    13. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      Or the clam would have eaten it. This thing must have been huge. Seriously, these guys who killed the oldest living creature should have rocks tied around their feet and be dropped off a ship to drown right where this clam used to live.

    14. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by z0M6 · · Score: 1

      No worries, I'm sure it was begging them to end it's misery.

    15. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Like a 405 year old chicken, of course

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    16. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You're aware that had any other sea creature discovered the clam, it would have been eaten. That's life.
      That should read: You're aware that had any other person discovered Colin Smith, he would have gotten his fucking head blown off by a shotgun. That's life.


      Seriously, do you just get a big woodie talking like you think you are some sort of "realist"? Does it make you feel like a big man, so you can compensate for the pathetic existence you have?

    17. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      That ensures we don't re-discover the same clam next year...again, as the world's oldest animal, a 406 year-old clam.

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    18. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      Durrr...they didn't know it was that old until they cut it apart.

      The whole reason they were trolling in the first place was to collect samples, obviously. You people are your own worst enemy.

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    19. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by vistic · · Score: 1

      "but seriously, if I were to find the oldest known living creature in existance, I'd probably create an artificial home identical to where it was and leave it there for however many generations it takes for it to die naturally."

      I'd take some pictures and put it back in its natural environment. For all we know an artificial home would be missing some unthought of factor that they need to live healthy lives... moonlight to guide biological cycles, or some kind of ocean currents or something...

      It's not like the cure for cancer has just GOTTA be inside that clam shell! I don't think there really is any big scientific merit to this discovery other than a novelty factor. If scientists want to discover its secret to such a long life, examine a younger specimen of the same species. Or come up with a plan first.

      Anyway... I truly can't say this surprises me one bit in the slightest. The concept of NOT shitting all over nature never really caught on very much with the human race.
    20. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by vistic · · Score: 1

      You've got to admit that it sort of takes the prestige out of the announcement... "We found the oldest animal on Earth!!! 405 years old! But, uhh... we killed it."

      The operation was a success... but the doctor died....

    21. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It's a perfect example of taking something and twisting it to mean something different. The context was removed. I'm sure the "I hate myself and our culture" crowd had a field day with it, even though the meme was untrue. The narrative was correct, you see.

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    22. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by MarkCollette · · Score: 1

      My view is, tough luck, you just don't get to know how old it is, if that requires killing it.

    23. Re:Top 10 Destroyed Discoveries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the real question is -- Will it Blend!??

  12. Sigh. by Funkcikle · · Score: 1

    If only I could go back in time and prevent the discovery of the Top Ten list.

  13. I don't care what you say by techpawn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Inventing Toilet paper HAS to be high on the discoveries list... Unless you still get the Sears catalog. I've yet to meet a scientist who hasn't used it.

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  14. discovery #9 by seededfury · · Score: 2, Informative

    This has to be the best....
    They discover a 405 year-old clam... until researchers had to kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

    Then they killed it.

    1. Re:discovery #9 by Garrick68 · · Score: 1

      You know, it sounds like a quote from a Douglas Addams book. He had us pegged didn't he?

  15. more curiosities than discoveries by petes_PoV · · Score: 4, Interesting
    biggest, oldest, features of people/animals long dead, planets very far away, new species.

    All very nice in a "boys book of wonders" way, but very little in the way of actionable information. Maybe that's the way of pure science, but I was rather hoping that at least one of these discoveries would have a material effect on my life. (

    (and no, I don't think mapping Craig Venter's gemone counts).

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    1. Re:more curiosities than discoveries by foobsr · · Score: 1

      but very little in the way of actionable information

      Now what do you expect?

      They set up something to get an estimate on expected revenue (hit rate) by topic and choose the most promising outcome.

      CC.

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  16. But, this year? by Nerdposeur · · Score: 3, Funny

    Um... toilet paper wasn't invented this year, buddy. Sorry if you just got the word.

    1. Re:But, this year? by techpawn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um... toilet paper wasn't invented this year, buddy. Sorry if you just got the word.

      What? You mean I've been using my hand for nothing?

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    2. Re:But, this year? by arktemplar · · Score: 1

      Well, actually I'm guessing you have been using them for quite a lot.

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    3. Re:But, this year? by techpawn · · Score: 1

      Probably less than you'd imagine...

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  17. missing off the "man made disaters" list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


    Iraq

    1. Re:missing off the "man made disaters" list by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      That was on the 2002 list iinm

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  18. Without this press release, I would not... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2, Funny

    Without this press release, I would not have realized that Time Magazine was still publishing. Who knew?

  19. 'Discoveries' by Drakemaw · · Score: 1

    Discovery #9 was the most interesting in my opinion. It's telling that scientists are willing to kill something for no other reason than to prove that it is, or was, the oldest living animal. Not sure about clams, but I'd much rather be anonymous and alive than famous and dead.

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    1. Re:'Discoveries' by ResidntGeek · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, I'm sure about clams, and I can tell you they have no preference either way.

      And they didn't kill it to prove it was the oldest living animal. They brought up a bunch of clams, started measuring ages, and found one of the dead ones had been 405 years old.

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    2. Re:'Discoveries' by Click+and+drag · · Score: 1

      It should be pointed out that the scientists had no way of even estimating the clam's age before its death, and that they merely masured its age as part of a rutine(sp?) survey of marine life.

  20. Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by Bazar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Going through the list of disasters, I'm left wondering where the Indonesian mud volcano is.

    Considering its permanently displaced 11,000 people, over 10KM squared. I'd say thats a far larger disaster then for example, a bridge collapsing in the states, or a plane killing 300.

    It's killed 200 people, and was probably caused by the gas drilling company cutting corners on its drilling.

    http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn11025-indonesian-mud-volcano-caused-by-gas-drilling.html

    I'd personally have that at #1 or #2, i also question having global warming as the #1 man made disaster, since i don't consider it being a disaster yet. The worst that comes to my mind is hurricane Katrina, and even then, there is no decisive link to the two.

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    1. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      i also question having global warming as the #1 man made disaster, since i don't consider it being a disaster yet. The worst that comes to my mind is hurricane Katrina, and even then, there is no decisive link to the two. I don't link Katrina to global climate change, but it was in part a man made disaster.
      Contrary to what Bush will tell you, people had known for years that the levees would fail under a hurricane of that strength. It was only a matter of when one would come along.
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    2. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by IvyKing · · Score: 1

      I have to wonder about the southern California fires being near the top of the list, while it was pretty bad it wasn't as bad as the mud volcano you cited. FWIW, the Witch Creek fire got within 3 miles of where I live.

    3. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by wizardforce · · Score: 1

      It's killed 200 people, and was probably caused by the gas drilling company cutting corners on its drilling. I'd personally have that at #1 or #2
      That's small potatoes to the sheer number of species we've been accidentally killing over the years, increasing the rate of extinction by many many fold over what is natural. *That* is a human caused disaster worth noting.

      i also question having global warming as the #1 man made disaster, since i don't consider it being a disaster yet. The worst that comes to my mind is hurricane Katrina, and even then, there is no decisive link to the two.
      indeed, most of the real damage hasn't even occured *yet* although there are pollution caused phenomena that are disasters like Chernobyl, deaths in London from pollution being trapped in a column of cold air, massive swaths of land contaminated with chemicals, the UNION CARBIDE toxic disaster in India which everyone seems to be forgetting about etc...
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      Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
    4. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by butterwise · · Score: 1

      FWIW, the Witch Creek fire got within 3 miles of where I live.
      That is worth mentioning. Which you have done. Thanks!
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    5. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I love how everybody loves too blame Bush for New Orleans.
      I am lover of GW but please.
      The governor and the Mayor should have been shoot.
      Where didn't they evacuate the city? Why did they leave the school buses that could have been used to evacuate in the flood plain? Why didn't the state have enough shelters for the population of New Orleans?
      Why didn't they have enough food, water, and police in the convention center and the super dome?
      I live in hurricane country. The fact that the idiot mayor got another term is the worst crime I have seen in a long time.

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    6. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the Witch Creek fire got within 3 miles of where I live.

      Woopdee doo. Of my entire extended family:

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      • 7/9 properties in San Diego area

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      • 6/9 properties with 3 miles of the Witch Creak Fire

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      • 5/9 properties under mandatory evacuation

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      • 4/9 properties within 100 feet of the burn line and were included within all the burn maps

      •  
      • 3/9 properties had burning on the property


      Luckily, no one hurt. No significant property loss, thanks to the firefighters.

      But you don't see me bragging about it on /.
    7. Re:Worst Disasters: Wheres the Mud Volcano by IvyKing · · Score: 1

      No brag, just putting things in context. Looks like you were doing more bragging than I was.

  21. Obligatory Global Warming nod by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Nobody doubts anymore that climate change is at least in part man-made.

    I love that line. Can be taken as a claim that we cause the majority of it or just .00001% of it.

    But it gets better. Basically Global Warming is at fault for all weather bad, specifically all weather events that costs us money. Regardless if the earth was warmer before, regarldess of the fact we don't know out own planet's ideal temperature, regardless of the fact we can't even forcast a year ahead, and finally - regardless of the fact that the people who win from all the Global Warming scare mongering are politicians and big business.

    Then we have a plane wreck as #2? Followed by a retinue of things that more accidental than "purposely caused" With mining accidents it amazes me we still ignore the thousands who die in China in these accidents. We lose six or seven in America and it makes the top 10???

    IPCC as the #1 green idea? That bunch of bad science and fraud? Using names without permission to bolster their claims and using the power of government to intimidate others? The second entry was not much better. All that GW and the green push accomplish at the government level is to give politicians new ways to spend money, new titles, and even more travel to exotic locations. Carbon Capping? Basically new embedded tax passed onto consumers so big dirty corporations can still pollute. Oh I know there is that part about "refund" to consumers from the government - but we know better don't we. It will come as targetted benefits to buy votes. Most of these green ideas reek of deperateness to find something to make a top ten list. I can think of ten better stories - top ten green developments - like improvements in solar cell manufacturing, CFLs, how many companies recycle their waste for fuel (McDs in England) and such.

    Now the medical section was much better. At least here we had some real good entries. The difference here is that this is real science, where the green section isn't science half the time. The diabetes news from last year was great. We are well on our way to getting people off of needles.

    Sorry but Time's top ten lists are more politically motivated and to curry favor with certain groups than to provide any real knowledge or laud accomplishmen. Notice how their top ten disasters are not in countries that might react badly towards their reporters in the future? Stick to areas like the medical advances, put in another for technological advances, and ditch the political spin crap ideas and we might have lists worth a damn, lists that tell people what really means something.

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  22. Top 20 by tokul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make top20. Then you can have 20 pages full of ads instead of just 10.

    1. Re:Top 20 by aztektum · · Score: 1

      That would require extra research time on the part of the author. I think the best approach (from a revenue perspective) would be to insert 10 pages that are nothing BUT ads.

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    2. Re:Top 20 by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      Hmm... That may just be the discovery that makes "the best of 2007"!

      Then again,... I think it's been done. But... doesn't hurt to do it again!

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    3. Re:Top 20 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Race ya to the patent office.

  23. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by God'sDuck · · Score: 1

    I want my clone damnit! But then, wouldn't you get modded redundant?
  24. Global Warming, eh? by reabbotted · · Score: 0

    I realize global warming is popular, but it's a bit early to declare it the #1 man-made disaster. First of all, the jury is still out on whether or not humans contribute in a significant way to global warming. #2 It hasn't caused any disasters yet. 10 more years of research and allowing the political skew to die down will give us a much clearer view of what is really happening.

    1. Re:Global Warming, eh? by KeensMustard · · Score: 1

      First of all, the jury is still out on whether or not humans contribute in a significant way to global warming. No it isn't. More like the jury has returned a guilty verdict, sentencing passed and the court adjourned. Meanwhile a homeless guy on the steps of the court is ranting conspiracy theories.

      In South Africa 1 in 5 adults is HIV positive. The president of South Africa, Thabo Mbeki, believes and has stated publicly that there is no link between HIV and AIDS. People who deny the anthropogenic causes of climate change are the Thabo Mbekis of climate. Holding a sincere view doesn't bring credence to that view.

    2. Re:Global Warming, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First of all, the jury is still out on whether or not humans contribute in a significant way to global warming.

      No it isn't. More like the jury has returned a guilty verdict, sentencing passed and the court adjourned. Meanwhile a homeless guy on the steps of the court is ranting conspiracy theories.

      It's certain that mankind contributes in some "statistically significant" way to the temperature of the Earth (likely much less than a degree celsius so far, perhaps up to a maximum of a full degree celsius from human contribution over the next 100 years before we run out of fossil fuels). However what is absolutely NOT settled, is the significance of this apparently small contribution to the temperature to the ecology of the Earth that we depend on. If our contribution to the temperature change has no discernable impact on our existence, then the entire global warming issue is insignificant, even if "statistically significant".

      (For analogy, consider leap seconds, which are statistically significant given our measurement precision, yet insignificant to our lives.)

      Most studies which attempt to demonstrate the degree of impact this will have on our lives are resting on very flimsy connections, and so far amount to little more than fear-mongering.
    3. Re:Global Warming, eh? by KeensMustard · · Score: 1

      It's certain that mankind contributes in some "statistically significant" way to the temperature of the Earth (likely much less than a degree celsius so far, perhaps up to a maximum of a full degree celsius from human contribution over the next 100 years before we run out of fossil fuels). This view is advocated by the same people who used to say that climate change was not real. Until that view was indefensible. Then they said that climate change is probably real, but that we shouldn't act unless we were really really sure. Until that view was indefensible. Then they said that climate change was real but not anthropogenic in cause. Until that view was indefensible. So it's difficult to give credence to this latest view.
  25. #9 - World's Oldest Living Animal by Cleon · · Score: 2, Informative

    In October, researchers from Bangor University in Wales were trawling an ocean shelf off the coast of north Iceland when they stumbled on what is believed to be the world's oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam. Or it was living, until researchers had to kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

    Amazing. Absolutely amazing. :P

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    1. Re:#9 - World's Oldest Living Animal by Brobock · · Score: 2, Informative

      In October, researchers from Bangor University in Wales were trawling an ocean shelf off the coast of north Iceland when they stumbled on what is believed to be the world's oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam. Or it was living, until researchers had to kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

      The shell in question "ming" was brought up during dredging for Global warming research. By the time they got to the specimen, it had died. Researchers didn't physically kill it to find out its age.

    2. Re:#9 - World's Oldest Living Animal by jcnnghm · · Score: 1

      Global warming kills again! Damn you all and your gas guzzling SUVs.

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  26. Re:htmlslideshow - 2008? by Ashbory · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Maybe next year they will discover that you can put more than one paragraph on a web page.

  27. Further correction.... by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    since the pharmco's are the 3rd most profitable industry to invest in, and i'm sure Mr. Bush has friends in that dept, maybe the whole "ethical" issue is really just wagging the dog?

    1. Re:Further correction.... by crymeph0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Huh? If stem cells really have the potential their proselytizers would have us believe, the pharmcos would have their alleged puppet allow them to kill newborns for stem cells, if need be.

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    2. Re:Further correction.... by Rooked_One · · Score: 3, Interesting

      not if it is more profitable to treat a disease than it is to cure it.

      I am living proof of this as my meds cost around 80k a month.

    3. Re:Further correction.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my God, that is almost one year's salary for me. How you pay for it? I hope you are getting help.

    4. Re:Further correction.... by speculatrix · · Score: 2, Funny

      wouldn't it be cheaper for them to put you into cryogenic storage and hope one day they can cure you cheaply?
      :-)

    5. Re:Further correction.... by FiveLights · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow, what do you have? The war in Iraq?

    6. Re:Further correction.... by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      I am living proof of this as my meds cost around 80k a month.

      wow. don't even wanna know what you have.

      But, aren't these prices ridiculous? I mean, it would be cheaper to just feed you diamonds or something, how the heck can medicine be that expensive? It's usually pretty standard chemicals mixed in various proportions.

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    7. Re:Further correction.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm also sick and expensive (crohn's disease) - what, if i may be so rude, costs 80k a month to treat?

      Just out of curiousity - no pressure to divulge if you don't want to.

    8. Re:Further correction.... by jackpot777 · · Score: 1

      [rimshot] ...and don't forget to tip your waitresses.

      Another web search and a quick 'multiply by 30 for the daily amount' shows George's Folly is costing Americans 8.25 billion a month.

      Can't give the American kids healthcare, though. Jesus wouldn't want that shit on his watch!

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  28. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by coinreturn · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...regarldess [sic] of the fact we don't know out own planet's ideal temperature...

    I can't believe you Global-Warming-Deniers even bother with such an assinine arguement. Unless everybody on the entire planet has infinite mobility, it is quite apparent that ANY deviation from the established norm spells disaster. Populations shift with climate change and have established themselves according to the CURRENT climate. When change comes too abruptly (whether or not toward some idiotic "ideal temperature" idea), there will be floods, droughts, starvation, war, and a lot of death.

  29. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for the day when just using the word "embryonic" will get you called a "zealot"

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  30. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, they are a bunch of frauds :
    1/ they let politicians water down their statements.
    2/ they don't account for feedback-mechanisms like the methane-release of the perma-frost. /sarcasm.

  31. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by jcgf · · Score: 1

    Well, technically the clone should be modded redundant but no one here checks the post times so he probably would be.

  32. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by BlueParrot · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    All that GW and the green push accomplish at the government level is to give politicians new ways to spend money ...
    Carbon Capping? Basically new embedded tax passed onto consumers so big dirty corporations can still pollute.

    Your post is so empty of logic that it is hard to debunk it because your claims are not even self-consistent with one another. Seriously, didn't you just say global warming was a fraud? Yet carbon capping is an excuse for business continuing to pollute? But carbon is not a pollutant? Oh you meant all the OTHER pollution from fossil fuels? Which is why there is no sense in capping their use and it is just a fraud? So restricting fossil fuel use due to carbon emissions is just an excuse to use more fossil fuels, and this is bad because fossil fuels emit pollution? Do you per chance just spew out arbitrary nonsense without thinking about it, thus ending up contradicting yourself? It certainly seems that way.
  33. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Calling someone a "zealot" for not wanting to kill babies for research is a bit much. I'm not religious whatsoever, but I'm still morally against it. This is also not a step towards human cloning. We've had access to stem cells before, and some scientists have been progressing towards this goal for awhile. This will not progress them much. This is a step towards mass producing these cells for the purpose of cloning individual organs for patients requiring transplants.

  34. Re:In other news, top 10 things I've procrastinate by tonyreadsnews · · Score: 1

    6. Finish Top 10 things I've procrastinated list.

  35. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1, Redundant

    *Populations shift with climate change and have established themselves according to the CURRENT climate*

    There are two fallacies in your argument.

    First, we have established ourselves according to past climate, the climate was not always what it currently is, we inherit evolution and establishment from previous period, so our current climate may not be optimal.

    Second, even if we adapt to a specific environment, it does not imply we cannot be more fitted to another environment.

    A blind person may adapt his habits to his handicap, if one day he becomes able to see, he can still be better off although he has previously adapted to blindness. (note to morons, this is not a comparison, this is an example illustrating a generic fallacy about adaptation applied by the parent to earth's climate)

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  36. Kryptonite by Kelson · · Score: 1

    The most pointless one was "kryptonite." It has no scientific importance, and the rock in question doesn't have any of the properties of kryptonite -- it was just a coincidence in naming.

    Someone involved with the movie "Superman Returns" decided to make up a name for a mineral because the plot had Lex Luthor stealing it from a museum. They used a standard mineral naming scheme. Then someone happened to find a mineral that matched the description.

    At least the "transparent aluminum" a while back was actually transparent.

    It may be worth noting that Superman is a DC Comics character, and DC is owned by Time Warner.

    1. Re:Kryptonite by zerkon · · Score: 2, Funny

      the rock in question doesn't have any of the properties of kryptonite
      How do we know it doesn't have any of the properties of kryptonite? Do you have any of the properties of superman so you could test it for us?
  37. Top Ten Scientific Discoveries of 2007 (So Far) by thewils · · Score: 1

    There, fixed it for you.

    Why not wait until 2008 starts, then they don't run the risk of "Cancer Cure Found!!!" occurring on the 31st December. I know it's not very likely, since all the scientists will likely not be inventing any more, but getting hammered every day until the holidays are over, but still...

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  38. From the Top Ten Biggest Blunders... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the Top Ten Biggest Blunders...

    #9. Researchers kill world's oldest living animal

    In October, researchers stumbled on what is believed to be the world's oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam.

    Or it was living, until researchers had to kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

    D'oh!

  39. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by polar+red · · Score: 1

    So it goes ... some people will never accept their responsibility vis-a-vis future generations.

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  40. Re:The full monty is visible by bornwaysouth · · Score: 1

    That is, the green idea that was a *medical breakthrough* and became a man made disaster.

    If you go to the Times top Man-made disaster, you see global warming, and a picture of a shrunken Arctic ice cap. But even cursory examination shows the truth. It is actually South America totally covered in cocaine. SA was subject to a horrendous experiment by the Columbian-CIA industrial complex, which wanted to create cocaine using GM yeast in a vat. (The CIA were out to undermine the Teleban poppy growers.) The vat broke, the yeast blew on the wind, and all of SA became covered in cocaine.

    So the Pentagon towed SA up to the Arctic to hide the fiasco until after the Presidential elections. It's the usual story. What people think is SA now is just a polystyrene simulacrum made by Weta workshops during filming of King Kong. It's better than the original, and the polystyrene acts as a carbon sink.

    But don't tell anyone, or else Weta will have to give up making films and concentrate on making Atlantis or something similar.

  41. What, no Influenza Study? by C.+Alan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    IMO, the discover that may end up having the most impact will end up being the guys who discovered what atmospheric conditions are most condusive to the transmission of Influenza.

    Don't want to get sick?, crank up the heat, and plug in that humidifier.

    1. Re:What, no Influenza Study? by IvyKing · · Score: 1
      Having read Barrie's "The Great Influenza" (a good and scary book), this discovery was quite an eye opener. In addition, this discovery is actionable by just about anybody and could end up saving a lot of lives. It also explains why face masks can cut down the rate of transfer - the air becomes warmer and moister.


      Brings up a question: just how practical would it be to put humidifiers on aircraft?

  42. I see how this works by spun · · Score: 0, Troll

    I want a "-1 Troll," you skanky, dog diddling, microencephalic mods. Thanks in advance.

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    1. Re:I see how this works by flaming+error · · Score: 2

      Damn that's funny. I haven't laughed so uncontrollably for a long time. And I spewed my drink all over the place, you jerk. Warn me next time.

      I'd like a +1 underrated, please.

    2. Re:I see how this works by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      Troll? Here in Springfield, where Gail Simpson is Aderman, we do our trolling offline.

      -mcgrew

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  43. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by coinreturn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, we have established ourselves according to past climate, the climate was not always what it currently is, we inherit evolution and establishment from previous period, so our current climate may not be optimal. Second, even if we adapt to a specific environment, it does not imply we cannot be more fitted to another environment.

    Your lack of intelligence is shining very brightly. Yes, of course climate has changed in the past and people have migrated. The problem is not climate change in itself, it is the RATE of change that makes it a problem. This is the first time in the history of the Earth that a species actions affect the climate so markedly. It's an impulse function and we don't know what the system's response will be until it's too late. Second, of course some other environment might be better, but changing it to even an ideal environment too quickly is devastating. The Earth is not your living room, where you can just crank up the furnace when you get cold!

  44. Good job too... by jackpot777 · · Score: 1

    The breakthrough may someday allow scientists to create stem cells without destroying embryos


    [Overheard at fertility clinic] - it's a good job these embryos weren't going to be used for medical purposes.

    (sound of pedal bin opening)

    (sound of petri dishes hitting the inside of the bin)

    (sound of lid closing)

    I did a quick look on Google: in 2003, there were 400,000 frozen embryos in fertility clinics in the US. And that was revealed when the previous estimates ranged from the tens of thousands to 200,000 frozen embryos, with many estimates hovering around 100,000.

    Somehow, and call me an old cynic if you like, I don't see 400,000 right-to-life women foregoing their own genetic heritage in order to give these fertilized eggs a home. They're not going to be viable, frozen as they are, indefinitely.

    I'm a pragmatist. Recycle what we can re-use if we can. You may disagree with me, you may agree with me, but history shows that science and progress only gets held back for so long in one place before it thrives and benefits another place. And please don't try to appeal to my humane side: just look at the world around you. Look at the news. Life is cheap even if you're bigger than a kidney bean. It's time we started getting Vulcan on these embryos and started considering the needs of the many.
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    1. Re:Good job too... by SeekerDarksteel · · Score: 2

      What a lot of people apparently don't realize is that those people opposed to embryonic stem cell research are also opposed to the creation of embryos for fertility purposes. Claiming that they would be discarded anyway and thus should be used for scientific purposes begs the real and insufficiently addressed ethical question of whether or not they should have even been created in the first place.

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    2. Re:Good job too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Recycle what we can re-use if we can."

      Somehow I don't think the mindset of "it's going to die anyway, so might as well make use of it" sets a very good precedent.

      "Now you can save 50% on this abortion if you agree to let us put the fetus in our new incubator instead of killing it outright. Don't worry, none of them have lasted more than 12 hours so far..."

      "Look, I know your mum's on her deathbed, and we've been meaning to test this new cosmetic surgery procedure..."

      "Those foreign orphans were poor and starving, they were going to die anyway..."

      ...

    3. Re:Good job too... by AndersOSU · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, everyone who is against steam cell research is perfectly rational. There isn't a single person* opposed to stem cell research but in favor of in vitro fertilization.

      The only thing less rational would be if someone were pro-life, except of course for when it came to capital punishment.

      * Bush even praised in vitro fertilization in his 2001 speech about the horrors of stem-cell research

  45. No iPhone? by ortzinator · · Score: 1

    I half expected the iPhone to be on that list...

    1. Re:No iPhone? by billy8988 · · Score: 0

      I half expected someone to say that.

      "Discoveries"

    2. Re:No iPhone? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I half expected the iPhone to be on that list...
      List of top 10 man made disasters
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  46. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by tddoog · · Score: 2, Informative

    They are not babies, they are embryos.

  47. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by ChronoReverse · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ever heard of green algae? Those nasty little critters started releasing this toxic waste called Oxygen into the atmosphere poisoning practically the entire biosystem. The effects of their actions persist even to today.

  48. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by jacquesm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And that tends to change on how you define an embryo. According to some an embryo is a fertilized ovum, according to others it is a partically developed organism that stands a fair chance of being carried to term. The line is blurry and as with all of natures works it defies definition and can not be caught in a simple binary category. It's a continuum, just like 'tall' and 'hot'. Some collections of cells are more of an embryo than others, with a 'peak' of 'embryoness' somewhere in those magical 9 months. A born baby is not an embryo, a fertilized ovum probably also isn't one.

  49. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    The parent is making a claim about the climate level, not the climate rate of change. I am pointing out that his argument is fallacious, period.

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  50. Re: Top Ten Scientific Discoveries of 2007 (So Far by BlueParrot · · Score: 1

    I know it's not very likely, since all the scientists will likely not be inventing any more, but getting hammered every day until the holidays are over
    You got it backwards, to come up with a really crazy, and hence genious, idea you NEED to be hammered. I personally think we should be allowed to write it off as a business expense...
  51. Re:In other news, top 10 things I've procrastinate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Swooooosh!
    I mean, I know I'm not adding anything to the discussion, and that I'm off-topic here, but.. COME ON PEOPLE! I hate it when people _must_ spell out the obvious!
    And now for the Flame/Troll part (so I'm certain to me modded down): You must be american. Sorry, I'm in a bad mood.

  52. You're both missing the point here. by ivan256 · · Score: 1

    The point is that since Global Warming is the #1 man-made disaster of 2007, we won't have to worry about it for much longer. After all, it'll be 2008 in a few short weeks.

  53. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is the natural byproduct of your respiration.

    Burning fossil fuels emits pollutants as well as water vapor and carbon dioxide.

    The comments make perfect sense unless you are one of those who believe that with every breath you take, you inch the world closer to global catastrophe.

    As for the rest of your comment, it is as discombobulated as you imagine the previous post is.

  54. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    zealot! :P

  55. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  56. Re:In other news, top 10 things I've procrastinate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    6. ???
    7. Profit!

    Sorry, couldn't resist :P

  57. Best Quote by Bryansix · · Score: 1

    "Life in North Korea is one long, man-made disaster..."

    Take that Kim Jong-il

  58. Top ten things I've done this year by sm62704 · · Score: 1

    10. Garnered excellent slashdot karma, and what's more did it accidentally
    9. Showed up at work enough times to not get fired
    8. Showed up at work on time enough times to not get fired
    7. Avoided house fires
    6. Drank like a fish
    5. Avoided hospititalization after falling on my head
    4. Got my nerd license suspended by getting a really good looking female roomate
    3. Avoided DUI by walking home from the bars
    2. Didn't get murdered despite the fact that a lot of guys think i'm fucking their wives and girlfriends
    1. Got laid by seven different woman in a single year!!!

    Oh shit what happened to my slashdot karma? Where's that damned nerd license? Oh hell...

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  59. the list (no clicking required) by not_anne · · Score: 1, Informative

    #1. Stem Cell Breakthroughs
    Scientists reprogrammed regular skin cells to behave just like embryonic stem cells.

    #2. Human Mapped
    J. Craig Venter published his entire "diploid" genetic sequence, or all the DNA in both sets of chromosomes inherited from each of his parents -- the first such genome ever published of a single person.

    #3. Brightest Supernova Recorded
    It was the first time scientists saw the death of a star as large as SN 2006gy, which was approximately 100 to 200 times the size of the sun.

    #4. Hundreds of New Species
    700 new species of organisms -- including carnivorous sponges and giant sea spiders -- some 2,300 ft. to 19,700 ft. (700 m to 6,000 m) down in the Weddell Sea off Antarctica.

    #5. Building a Human Heart Valve
    Scientists grew bone marrow stem cells into functioning human heart-valve tissue.

    #6. "Hot Jupiters" Discovered
    British scientists identified three new planets outside our own Solar System...The new planets, named WASP-3, WASP-4 and WASP-5, are about the size of Jupiter, and orbit so close to their suns that their surface temperature reaches some 2,000C.

    #7. A Big Birdlike Dinosaur
    Scientists discovered a birdlike dinosaur that lived 70 million years ago, was 3,000-lb. and was a young adult.

    #8. Man's Migration Out of Africa
    A skull discovered in South Africa in 1952 revealed the first fossil evidence that modern humans left Africa between 65,000 and 25,000 years ago.

    #9. The World's Oldest Animal
    Researchers stumbled on what is believed to be the world's oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam.

    #10. Real-Life Kryptonite
    A mineralologist discovered a white, powdery mineral that has the same properties - sodium lithium boron silicate hydroxide -- as the fictional kryptonite.

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    1. Re:the list (no clicking required) by rossdee · · Score: 2, Funny

      "#10. Real-Life Kryptonite
      A mineralologist discovered a white, powdery mineral that has the same properties - sodium lithium boron silicate hydroxide -- as the fictional kryptonite."

      Who did they test it on? Christopher Reeve is dead alreadymmm

  60. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh yes. This is sometimes referred to the "Oxygen Holocaust" because, although it was a boon to life using energy and moving out of the oceans, the oxygen was toxic to many existing lifeforms and wiped them out. If Global Warming ever caused a change anywhere near as severe us humans would be royally and truly fucked. But you can be sure that life on earth would eventually thrive afterwards.

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  61. Top10 of the Top10 by dafradu · · Score: 1

    Can someone make a Top10 of the Top10? I don`t want to go through all those pages :/

  62. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm anaerobic you insensitive clod!

  63. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by NMerriam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Calling someone a "zealot" for not wanting to kill babies for research is a bit much.

    Completely avoiding the issue of whether an embryo is a "baby" or not, we do lots of medical research on cadavers. We don't go around killing people in order to obtain cadavers for that research, any more than people go around creating and destroying embryos solely to perform research on. I find it strange that learning about human biology is perfectly okay with the remains of a 90 year old man, but not with the remains of an aborted fetus.

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  64. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by coinreturn · · Score: 1

    Bullshit. Read the parent again. You are wrong on both counts.

  65. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

    Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is the natural byproduct of your respiration.
    You're an idiot. The carbon dioxide you breathe out is used by plants who then use it in the process of photosynthesis, which releases oxygen. Creating carbon dioxide by burning things that had been in the ground for millions of years, on the other hand, while simultaneously burning the forests and killing other photosynthesizing creatures that could absorb the carbon dioxide is a very bad idea. It causes the overall increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which aids in heating up the planet far more rapidly than might happen otherwise.


    Also, if you don't think carbon dioxide can be a pollutant, try this little experiment. Tie a plastic bag around your head. Make sure you tie off the end so as to form a perfect seal around your neck. Then, breathe in and out deeply for several minutes. If the experiment goes as I predict it will, there will be one less dumbass (or possibly one less oil industry shill) in the world.

  66. The bit about the oldest clam by Hillview · · Score: 1

    The bit about the oldest living animal astounds me in particular, as it reminded me of Prometheus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_%28tree%29). Prometheus was a 5,000 year old tree that was killed in the process of determining its age.. History has a way of repeating itself.

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  67. bad link? by Hillview · · Score: 1

    dunno why my link didn't work.. let's try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree)

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  68. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spoken like a true global warming acolyte.

    Excuse me while I go burn down a forest and maybe catch a few enviro-wackos sitting in trees.

  69. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by ppanon · · Score: 1

    Hmm. I hadn't thought of it that way until now, but producing molecular oxygen that "poisoned" the environment, killing most other species competing for the same space, would have been a real evolutionary advantage for the organisms that could do it. In an "anaerobic" world, it would have worked even better than producing antibiotics.

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  70. Poorly researched by jpchindi · · Score: 1

    The "#4 Medical Breakthrough" is Alli, a new OTC form of the drug orlistat, which was FDA approved in 1999 and has been marketed for years as the prescription drug Xenical. The only "breakthrough" was getting it approved for OTC use.

  71. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

    Spoken like a true global warming acolyte.
    So, your whole response to me explaining the basics of why it is a bad thing to release a bunch of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere through burning fossil fuels is to simply call me an "acolyte"? Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. Maybe you should learn what an ad hominem argument is first and maybe try to actually learn something before you try to argue with people who know what they are talking about.
  72. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by rlp · · Score: 1

    How can you possibly doubt that global warming is the cause of disasters worldwide? It's even causing Antarctic dinosaurs.

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  73. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by LarsWestergren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But it gets better. Basically Global Warming is at fault for all weather bad

    Now where does it say that?

    Regardless if the earth was warmer before,

    Thank you, this is known to everyone and accounted for. It is the rate of change that is scary.

    regarldess of the fact we don't know out own planet's ideal temperature

    There is no such thing as an ideal temperature, and no one has claimed that there is.

    regardless of the fact we can't even forcast a year ahead

    Climate is not the same thing as weather.

    regardless of the fact that the people who win from all the Global Warming scare mongering are politicians and big business.

    No, if global warming and its predicted consequences are real, we all lose.

    IPCC as the #1 green idea? That bunch of bad science and fraud?

    Any proof of these claims?

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  74. Sigh... by vegiVamp · · Score: 1

    FTA:
    > #9. The World's Oldest Animal
    >
    > In October, researchers from Bangor University in Wales were trawling an ocean shelf
    > off the coast of north Iceland when they stumbled on what is believed to be the world's
    > oldest living animal: a 405 year-old clam. Or it was living, until researchers had to
    > kill it to determine the clam's age by studying rings on its shell.

    You find what you suspect to be the world's oldest living animal. OF COURSE you kill it to check wether you're right.

    Someone please whack those idiots.

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  75. Re:In other news, top 10 things I've procrastinate by etwills · · Score: 1

    1. Changing to D2
    2. Coming up with a good critique of why there isn't really a top "10"
    3. extend that with how it belittles the rest of the work that has been done
    4. complain about not gettin /. anniversary t-shirt.
    5. Change sig
    6.

    ...Profit! :(

  76. Re:Obligatory Global Warming nod by jackpot777 · · Score: 1

    I just want to expand on the matter of climate versus weather, for all those Americans that seem to be confused (not the Americans that aren't... we know where Al Gore's from).

    'Climate' is the big picture. Hundreds of weather-recording locations around the world, taking data for years and years.

    'Weather' is the three-day forecast thing you check to see if you'll need your brolly. Sorry: umbrella.

    Let's use an analogy for those Americans that are dragging the others down into the 3rd World: a NASCAR race. Knowing what the climate is doing is like knowing who's likely to win a NASCAR race when there's one lap to go (on a caution flag) because you've watched the whole race, you understand the rules of the race, and you have been paying attention. The weather for one day? That's like trying to figure out who won the race because you have a single picture. Taken at a totally random time during the race. Of a section of the track that may or may not have cars on it. And you don't know what lap the photo was taken on.

    So the more I see some people doing the equivalent of waving that photo at me, saying "it was Dale that done won the race", the more I let you wave. Because you're putting your stupidity online, where it can be searched for years to come, and people that aren't paid by oil companies / aren't gullible / aren't in a state of fear will see just how manipulative / stupid / scared you were.

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  77. Great Global Warming Swindle by the+grace+of+R'hllor · · Score: 1

    Claiming that AIDS and HIV are unlinked is politicking, not science, just like claiming that humans are 'definitely' a cause of global warming, and that global warming is bad.

    The CO2 content of the atmosphere does not cause the globe to heat up or cool down. Historically, CO2 levels and temperature correlate strongly. The problem is that CO2 levels peak about 800 years *after* temperature peaks, and only after a rise in temperature does the CO2 content of the atmosphere change.

    Also, it is colder now, globally, than it was in the Medieval Warm Period, and there was no large-scale industrialization then (although there *was* a large leap forward for humankind). Likewise during about 3000 years in the Bronze Age, when humanity flourished and temperatures were higher still.

    Got this from "The Great Global Warming Swindle", which is obviously biased. The UN panel on climate change correctly bashed that documentary on a few points, but the claims I repeat here they didn't touch. I wonder why? Maybe because they're actually correct?

    See The Great Global Warming Swindle

    1. Re:Great Global Warming Swindle by KeensMustard · · Score: 1

      Claiming that AIDS and HIV are unlinked is politicking, not science, just like claiming that humans are 'definitely' a cause of global warming, and that global warming is bad. Wow. What an absurd contortion.

      The CO2 content of the atmosphere does not cause the globe to heat up or cool down. Historically, CO2 levels and temperature correlate strongly. The problem is that CO2 levels peak about 800 years *after* temperature peaks, and only after a rise in temperature does the CO2 content of the atmosphere change. Myth debunked
      More debunking

      Also, it is colder now, globally, than it was in the Medieval Warm Period, Myth debunked

      Likewise during about 3000 years in the Bronze Age, when humanity flourished and temperatures were higher still. So during the last bronze age, there was 6 billion people. Cos, you know that if there WEREN'T 6 billion people, or even a billion people, but rather only a couple of million, then there is simply no way that those situations could be comparable. Because a bunch of hunter gatherers living along a small number of major river systems could easily adapt to change, whereas 6 billion people cannot, owing to the fact that they eat the entire fish stock of the ocean and farm all of the arable land on the planet. You DID realise that...didn't you?

      Got this from "The Great Global Warming Swindle", which is obviously biased. The UN panel on climate change correctly bashed that documentary on a few points, but the claims I repeat here they didn't touch. I wonder why? Maybe because they're actually correct? See The Great Global Warming Swindle Strangely enough, that documentary was shown on Australian television last year - much to that amusement of the population at large, but to the ire of the scientific community. Here is some responses:
      http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/globalwarmingswindle/
      http://www.amos.org.au/BAMOS_GGWS_SUBMISSION_final.htm
      There was a panel discussion after the showing of the documentary (mentioned here ). A group of scientists tore into the movie and it's supporters - it was awesome to watch. The denialists had nothing - in the end they resorted to conspiracy theory and ranting. In the end there was no question that the The Great Global Warming Swindle was itself the swindle.
  78. Top 10 Man-Made Disasters: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Top 10 Man-Made Disasters:
    1-10) IRAQ

  79. how did it taste? by vaporland · · Score: 1

    it tasted like chicken.

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  80. Re:Lost in the "oh goody non embrionic stem cells. by Forseti · · Score: 1

    And that tends to change on how you define an embryo. According to some an embryo is a fertilized ovum, according to others it is a partically developed organism that stands a fair chance of being carried to term. The line is blurry and as with all of natures works it defies definition and can not be caught in a simple binary category. It's a continuum, just like 'tall' and 'hot'. Some collections of cells are more of an embryo than others, with a 'peak' of 'embryoness' somewhere in those magical 9 months. A born baby is not an embryo, a fertilized ovum probably also isn't one. Actually, science already has a far more precise definition of "embryo" than that! A fertilized ovum is called a zygote. After the first cell division, it is called an embryo until the 8th week, after which it's called a foetus. Though I do agree with your sentiment...

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